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  1. What I understood is he states is there Prophet Musa (pbuh) intention was to ask Allah for guidance. So he does this by attempting to a scientific experiment. But it's not the experiment that's his intention but Allahs Gudiance. I think it is the best explanation of Al-Khidr to date. You haven't even got to the important aspect of his explanation and your mocking him. Jazzer Allah and thank you.
  2. Let me ask you some questions. 1. What is the difference between Nusayris and Shias? I mean you classify your Sect under the same banner, so why can't you just say... I am Shia. Define the differences. 2. Do you believe in Ali as Allah. Swear on the Quran as to your belief. The. Swear on the Quran it is not mentioned in your doctrine. 3. Do you have secret doctrine of 16 chapters. If not you are not a Nusayri and I'm going to be wasting my time debating something that is the fundamental difference. 4. Do you know who Fatir is? If not I do not believe your claim that you are an active and knowledged Nusayri in the community. 5. Do you believe Mana, Isim, bab. If not your lying about the fundamental beliefs of Nusayris. 6. Do you believe in Aim, mim, sin meaning Ali, Muhammad and Salman Al Farsi 7. Why aren't your women allowed to learn the religion, do you know why? 8. Do you believe Nusayri or Khasibi were blessed in any way? If yes in what regards if no why do you follow their teachings. Answer these questions and swear to Allah 4 times you are not lying as to your responses. Then ask Allah for the greatest of curses if you are lying. Even if it's a forum and you can write anythig you want, do not forget Allah knows your intentions. These are not my questions, merely it is to see how far your denial will go. Once your answers are established I will begin questioning you thoroughly. May Allahs curse be on those who lie
  3. Please watch and refute if wrong. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUD9heqTrkE
  4. The Houris explained in great detail. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e55R_R6pVeU
  5. Salam Alaykum Wa Barakatu friends, I ask this question with sincerity. Did the Quran Surahs come to the Prophet with a Title? I ask this for numerous reasons. 1. The title comes before the the Bismillah so we are not stating, when prouncing the Surah that it is in the name of Allah 2. The first Surah in the Quran in chronological order, number 96 Al-Alaq. Would Angel Jabreel have come to the Prophet and have said Al-Alaq first, then the Bismillah or would he have commanded "Read!" first? 3. Surah 15.87 "And certainly We have given you seven of the oft-repeated (verses) and the grand Quran." mentions Al-Fatiah then the Quran. It mentions Al-Fatiah as the 7 oft repeated. If the title is added into the Surah it becomes 8. What do you guys think......Let me know Alaykum Salam
  6. I did take that into account my friend. Firstly my friend if compared to the Quran AND a distinct similarity is seen, then we can agree with the biblical verses. In the Quran there definitely is the angel in human form whom assisted Mary till birth. In the bible it states that Joseph assisted her till birth, then he never gets mentioned. There are 4 different schools of thought in regards to Jesus's siblings. One (in majority of Christianity and not based on anything more than literal translation of the biblical doctrine) is that Mary had children with Joseph. Second is that his siblings were from Joseph and not from Mary. This can be found in the NONCANONCAL Apocrypha. In other words, Joseph was a widower and had children from his first marriage. Third From the Roman Catholics it is believed these considered siblings are actually his cousins. There belief for such comes from numerous reasons including the fact that everytime Jesus was told your brothers are here, Jesus rejected the idea and always mentioned that his only brothers are those that follow his path. Also Later study of the Hebrew and Semantic languages gave a clearer understanding that members of the extended family (cousins, first cousins, etc., etc.) were also described as 'brothers' in those languages Fourth there is no mention of Joseph when Jesus was an adult in his public ministry, and it is propositioned that Joseph must have died and therefore was considerably older than Mary and could not have children. Again this group is very close in ideology to that of the Roman Catholics however most reject the whole idea of siblings all together and consider this as a metaphor. So in answer to your question, I have considered the possibilities, yet the story still remains. According to the Quran a man assisted Mary, Bible tells us that man is Joseph. Do you think it could be?
  7. No. No where in the Quran is Joseph mentioned. He really isn't really mentioned too much in the bible. Firstly he is mentioned within a mistake in the opening chapter of matthew. What I mean by mistake is the Christians are trying to show a lineage from Abraham to Jesus. But the last line reads 1.16 Joseph, who married Mary, the mother of Jesus, who was called the Messiah. Jesus was born from a virgin birth. So instead of giving the family tree of Mary, they have given a family tree of Joseph, who had nothing to do with Jesus besides being his guardian, Then it's pretty broad, like he was a carpenter and in a dream he saw he had to protect Mary.
  8. We all know the Quran states that angels came to earth in human forms. This is why 1. Prophet David didn't know who they were until he realized he was being tested from the two angels 2. Prophet Ibrahim got scared of them when he realized they were angels after they didn't eat 3. The men of the town followed two men (angels) to Prophet Lots house in order for intercourse And so on. The one I want to concentrate on is importantly 4. Mary told the man to go away for no man has touched her. Why I stated importantly was for a reason. When you read the Bible as a historical reference you understand there was a character who assisted Mary till she had Prophet Jesus. This character in the Bible is known as Joseph (her husband and only AFTER conception). after the birth of Jesus, Joseph doesn't get mentioned again. In the Quran or better yet in Islam there is no Joseph but............ The Quran is specific that Gabriel did assist Mary until birth. 19.22 So she conceived him; then withdrew herself WITH HIM to a remote place. Is Gabriel the biblical Joseph?
  9. Brackets means restrictions or parenthesizes. So you must work inside the brackets first before the outside. When dealing with the concept of infinity in totality it means finitehood. The addition outside of the brackets is linking the two values. It's stating to add the 1 onto the value of finite hence becoming infinite. Let me show you something. When he decrees a matter, he only has to say Be, and it is" is easily definable with mathematics. The art of saying/stating is an addition. The Quran goes further and mentions that this decree is a commandment, "BE" We also understand that "lt is" in this commandment is the actual creation being created. So an addition has been added to the equation. Every creature is an individual 1. Due to him being the creator and outside of our mathematics and not restricted by the governing laws of mathematics the created "1" can not be added the initial (1), so the created 1 must have brackets. Hence, this line in the Quran in a numerical format is Allah (1) only has to say, Be (+) and it is (1) Or simply 1 + (1) But this creation Allah states he makes in pairs in Yasin 36.36 Glory be to Him Who created pairs of all things, of what the earth grows, and of their kind and of what they do not know. Most think this pair is male, female but it means equal and opposite. So again we end up with 1+(+|-) Now let me show you the equation in the Quran. 59.22 He is Allah besides Whom there is no god; the Knower of the 1+ unseen and the seen; (-|+) He is the Beneficent, the Merciful (=∞) 1+ (+|-) = ∞ (note for next ayat as I mentioned with genesis in the video, you can only have from inifinite finite and not vice versa. First section in this ayat explains that) 48.14 And Allah's is the kingdom (1+). of the heavens (∞) and the earth; (+|-) He (1+) forgives whom He pleases and punishes whom He pleases, (+|-) and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful. (=∞) 1.1 In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful. (1=∞) 1.2-3 All praise is due to Allah, (1+) the Lord of the Worlds(+|-) The Beneficent, the Merciful. (=∞) 2.29 He it is Who created for you (1+) all that is in the earth, (+|-) and He directed Himself to the heaven, so He made them complete seven heavens, and He knows all things. (=∞) 4.133 If He please, (1+) He can make you pass away, O people! and bring others; (+|-) and Allah has the power to do this. (=∞) 4.170 this one is about the Prophet O people! surely the Apostle has come to you with the truth from your Lord, (1+) therefore believe, (it shall be) good for you and If you disbelieve, then surely whatever is in the heavens and the earth is Allah's; (+|-) and Allah is Knowing, Wise. (=∞) 96.1-3 Read in the name of your Lord Who created. (1+) He created man from a clot. (+|-) Read and your Lord is Most Honorable, (=∞) 57.9 He it is who sends down clear communications upon His servant, (1+) that he may bring you forth from utter darkness into light; (+|-) and most surely Allah is Kind, Merciful to you. (=∞) Should I continue? I can do this with the whole Quran if you want. All these I chose where just because they are explaining the equation in a short method, but every Surah in the Quran fits. Sometimes individual Ayats, sometimes groups but every Surah from start to finish fits into the equation Now with this in mind, once you begin to look at the Quran from this angle, stories start having different meaning but more understandable ones. For example I will explain Prophet Musas life for you in great detail. Moses believed in Science and mathematics. Actually, to ask for Gods help Moses wants to do a Scientifical Experiment. 18:60-61- And when Musa said to his servant: I will not cease until I reach the junction of the two rivers or I will go on for years. So when they had reached the junction of the two (rivers) they forgot their fish, and it took its way into the sea, going away. So how is this a scientifical experiment? Moses was taking a fish to where the rivers met, Salt water and Fresh Water. Moses was going to put the fish in the salt water (or fresh water) and see why the fish couldn’t swim to the other water. Actually, the truth is however Moses is asking God for guidance. He was telling God that he needs some sort of Knowledge to continue. That is why when the fish is forgotten, he knows God is going to help. 18:64- He said: This is what we sought for; so they returned retracing their footsteps. This is why Moses has no knowledge and asks the Blessed character for guidance, even though the Quran states Moses was blessed with Knowledge. 28:14- And when he attained his maturity and became full grown, We granted him wisdom and knowledge; and thus do We reward those who do good (to others). Khidr then does 3 things that Moses questions. Khidr responds to them in a logical format so Moses can understand. What Khidr did, Moses response, Khidrs answers and the reason for his actions to teach Moses are listed below in an organised fashion Lesson 1 for Moses 18:71- So they went (their way) until when they embarked in the boat he made a hole in it. 18:71- (Musa) said: Have you made a hole in it to drown its inmates? Certainly you have done a grievous thing. 18:79- As for the boat, it belonged to (some) poor men who worked on the river and I wished that I should damage it, and there was behind them a king who seized every boat by force. Khidr is preparing Moses to the possibility of drowning people. We have to understand the task must be relevant to Moses. Moses had killed someone and claimed it to be the “Shaitan’s doing” and not because Allah intended it( I will explain this in Lesson 4 for Moses). Moses believing that the Shaitans work is killing also means Moses would have made an oath against the idea. 28.15-17 …. so Musa struck him with his fist and killed him. He said: This is on account of the Shaitan's doing; surely he is an enemy, openly leading astray. He said: My Lord! surely I have done harm to myself, so do Thou protect me. So He protected him; surely He is the Forgiving, the Merciful. He said: My Lord! because Thou hast bestowed a favor on me, I shall never be a backer of the guilty. Khidr is mentioning that what you believe is (in the future) a “Grievous thing”, is the work of God. If you relate this with this in mind you find a different understanding. To simplify it I will show you the understanding of this lesson that Moses would have derived. The boat is Belief. The Poor men are the slaves, The river is the Kingdom, The King is pharaoh. Moses understanding of this lesson would have read (Please note I am not changing the words of the Quran, they are more glorious than anything I could possibly write. I am merely giving the understanding that Moses would have derived from it) As for the Beliefs, it belong to the slaves who work in the Kingdom and I wanted to save them, and there was behind them pharaoh who seized ever belief by force. Pharaoh did take beliefs by force. This can clearly be seen in 7:123 Firon said: Do you believe in Him before I have given you permission? Surely this is a plot which you have secretly devised in this city, that you may turn out of it its people, but you shall know: Lesson 2 for Moses 18:74- So they went on until, when they met a boy, he slew him. 18:74- (Musa) said: Have you slain an innocent person otherwise than for manslaughter? Certainly you have done an evil thing. 18:80-81- And as for the boy, his parents were believers and we feared lest he should make disobedience and ingratitude to come upon them: So we desired that their Lord might give them in his place one better than him in purity and nearer to having compassion. Khidr is preparing Moses for the plague. Khidr is explaining that God is going to cause the plague and it isn’t from evil. Please also note a boy cannot be tested. Our test begins at the age of maturity or after puberty. This point is important to remember in following chapters. The boy is the Egyptians. Lesson 3 for Moses 18:77- So they went on until when they came to the people of a town, they asked them for food, but they refused to entertain them as guests. Then they found in it a wall which was on the point of falling, so he put it into a right state. 18:77- (Musa) said: If you had pleased, you might certainly have taken a recompense for it. 18:82- And as for the wall, it belonged to two orphan boys in the city, and there was beneath it a treasure belonging to them, and their father was a righteous man; so your Lord desired that they should attain their maturity and take out their treasure, a mercy from your Lord, and I did not do it of my own accord. This is the significance of that with which you could not have patience. Khidr is preparing Moses for Mt Sinai and the following 40 year waiting period that the Israelites had to suffer due to the calf incident. People of the Town are the People at Mt Sinai. Food is Gods help. The refusal of accepting them as guest is the calf incident. The Wall is the Final Barrier. The treasure is the Holy Land, The father is what we inherit from our parents, our religion the two orphan boys are Moses and Aaron, maturity is the 40 year waiting period Moses understanding of this lesson would have read So they went on until when they came to Mt Sinai, they asked for Gods help, but they refused and took a calf. Then they found in it a final barrier which was on the point of falling, so he put it into a right state. And as for the barrier, it belonged to Moses and Aaron, and there’s was beneath it the Holy Land, and their religion was right; so your Lord desired that they should attain a 40 year waiting period and then receive the Holy Land , a mercy from your Lord, Could Zulqarnain be Khidr? There are 3 reasons why it can be debated that Khidr is Zulqarnain. The first is Zulqarnain is mentioned straight after this story in the Quran as 18:83- And they ask you about Zulqarnain. Say: I will recite to you an account of him. Second Khidr is never mentioned in the Quran. Third and most importantly Zulqarnains story has a remarkable resemblance to that of the character on the boat. As mentioned in Moses’s Lessons 1,2 and 3, I will repeat these stories with the Story of Zulqarnain. Please remember this is not in regards to Moses what so ever. This is in regards to the Character on the Boat and the Story of Zulqarnain First Course 18:86-88- Until when he reached the place where the sun set, he found it going down into a black sea, and found by it a people. We said: O Zulqarnain! either give them a chastisement or do them a benefit. He said: As to him who is injust, we will chastise him, then shall he be returned to his Lord, and He will chastise him with an exemplary chastisement: And as for him who believes and does good, he shall have goodly reward, and We will speak to him an easy word of Our command. 18:79- As for the boat, it belonged to (some) poor men who worked on the river and I wished that I should damage it, and there was behind them a king who seized every boat by force. Zulqarnain was asked to either give them chastisement or do them a benefit. When looking at the boat story Zulqarnain actually did them a benefit by damaging the boat. He also mentions in 18:87, those who are unjust will receive punishment and will have an “exemplary chastisement”. It is also stated in 18:88, those believers who do good should be goodly rewarded. This passage seems to also speak to the Poor Men, as mentioned before the Israelites. From amongst the Israelites those who followed the calf were punished and the others were rewarded. “The place where the sun set” could easily be translated as their test (struggle) was coming to an end. This translation comes because of the following Ayats. Second Course 18:90-91- Until when he reached the land of the rising of the sun, he found it rising on a people to whom We had given no shelter from It; Even so! and We had a full knowledge of what he had. 18:80-81- And as for the boy, his parents were believers and we feared lest he should make disobedience and ingratitude to come upon them: So we desired that their Lord might give them in his place one better than him in purity and nearer to having compassion. In Zulqarnain’s second course he reaches a land where “we had given no shelter from it”. A child tests does not begin until puberty. We also see he reached the land of “rising of the sun”. Hence both “given no shelter from it” and “the rising of the sun” could possibly mean the test hadn’t begun. A clearer connection between the two different incidents can be seen with the comment “Even so! We had a full knowledge of what he had.” This fits perfectly with a boy who was killed for “disobedience and ingratitude” that he still had not commited. Third Course 18.93-98- Until when he reached (a place) between the two mountains, he found on that side of them a people who could hardly understand a word. They said: O Zulqarnain! surely Gog and Magog make mischief in the land. Shall we then pay you a tribute on condition that you should raise a barrier between us and them. He said: That in which my Lord has established me is better, therefore you only help me with workers, I will make a fortified barrier between you and them; Bring me blocks of iron; until when he had filled up the space between the two mountain sides, he said: Blow, until when he had made it fire, he said: Bring me molten brass which I may pour over it. So they were not able to scale it nor could they make a hole in it. He said: This is a mercy from my Lord, but when the promise of my Lord comes to pass He will make it level with the ground, and the promise of my Lord is ever true. 18:77 So they went on until when they came to the people of a town, they asked them for food, but they refused to entertain them as guests. Then they found in it a wall which was on the point of falling, so he put it into a right state. (Musa) said: If you had pleased, you might certainly have taken a recompense for it. 18:82- And as for the wall, it belonged to two orphan boys in the city, and there was beneath it a treasure belonging to them, and their father was a righteous man; so your Lord desired that they should attain their maturity and take out their treasure, a mercy from your Lord, and I did not do it of my own accord. This is the significance of that with which you could not have patience. The similarities are astounding with these Ayats. The Character with Moses Refused to entertain them as guests Zulqarnain Hardly understood a word The Character with Moses Musa mentions the “recompense” he could have earn for the task Zulqarnain They say Shall we pay you a tribute for the task The Character with Moses Two Orphan Boys Zulqarnain Two Mountains The Character with Moses Wall built between them to stop Gog and Magog Zulqarnain Wall built to save their treasure The Character with Moses Wall will come to pass and be levelled with the ground Zulqarnain Wall will come to pass after attaining maturity Lesson 4 for Moses Moses killing a man is also Gods work. It was not the Shaitan or Moses. This is quiet easy to see when you relate the reference of the killing back to Moses life. 28:15- And he went into the city at a time of unvigilance on the part of its people, so he found therein two men fighting, one being of his party and the other of his foes, and he who was of his party cried out to him for help against him who was of his enemies, so Musa struck him with his fist and killed him. He said: This is on account of the Shaitan's doing; surely he is an enemy, openly leading astray 28:18-21- And he was in the city, fearing, awaiting, when lo! he who had asked his assistance the day before was crying out to him for aid. Musa said to him: You are most surely one erring manifestly. So when he desired to seize him who was an enemy to them both, he said: O Musa! do you intend to kill me as you killed a person yesterday? You desire nothing but that you should be a tyrant in the land, and you do not desire to be of those who act aright. One being of his party is the Israelites The city is Mt Sinai Other his foes is Egyptians The killing is when Moses killed the Egyptians. The Israelites that he saved are the Israelites at Mt Sinai “Surely one erring manifestly” is the calf incident Moses understanding of this lesson would have read 28:18-21- And he was at Mt Sinai, fearing, awaiting, when lo! The Israelites who had asked his assistance the day before were crying out to him for aid. Musa said to him: You are most surely one erring manifestly. So when he desired to seize him who was an enemy to them both, he said: O Musa! do you intend to kill us as you killed the Egyptians? You desire nothing but that you should be a tyrant in the land, and you do not desire to be of those who act aright. So what did Moses learn. Moses answered the question of killing the Israrelities with the next 2:54- And when Musa said to his people: O my people! you have surely been unjust to yourselves by taking the calf (for a god), therefore turn to your Creator (penitently), so kill your people, that is best for you with your Creator: so He turned to you (mercifully), for surely He is the Oft-returning (to mercy), the Merciful. Lesson 5 for Moses Moses had a dilemma and was punished for it and forgiven. He (you could possibly determine) had a final doubt for this Lesson to be taught. The dilemma for Moses was is 7:138 And We made the children of Israel to pass the sea; then they came upon a people who kept to the worship of their idols They said: O Musa! make for us a god as they have (their) gods He said: Surely you are a people acting ignorantly: Moses’s dilemma was resolved soon after with this Ayat. 7:143 And when Musa came at Our appointed time and his Lord spoke to him, he said: My Lord! show me (Thyself), so that I may look upon Thee. He said: You cannot (bear to) see Me but look at the mountain, if it remains firm in its place, then will you see Me; but when his Lord manifested His glory to the mountain He made it crumble and Musa fell down in a swoon; then when he recovered, he said: Glory be to Thee, I turn to Thee, and I am the first of the believers. This is the Ayat where some have translated it as God coming to Earth. This is not correct. This was merely done at an appointed time and Moses did not witness the event. Appointed time meaning God had already put the mountain crumbling within the equation before creating the initial creation. “I am the first of the believers” comment made from Moses is now. This is after everything that God had done for him and his people. Moses needed to know that God cannot be seen as this was his proof. Moses actually died as well and was resurrected when this event occurred due to the power. 2:55-56- And when you said: O Musa! we will not believe in you until we see Allah manifestly, so the punishment overtook you while you looked on. Then We raised you up after your death that you may give thanks. But the main significance of the mountain crumbling is because Moses was directly given the Tablets as it states in the Quran. No where does it state in the Quran the exact moment of receiving the tablets, but it does state he did receive them and had them when descending from the mountain. If we read this ayat we realize that the mountain crumbled for the tablets and doctrine to be given to Moses 59.21 Had We sent down this Quran on a mountain, you would certainly have seen it falling down, splitting asunder because of the fear of Allah, and We set forth these parables to men that they may reflect.
  10. My friend you listen carefully. I spend 18 minutes of the video using nothing but mathematics to bring the equation to light. Only then do I start showing my equation from a religious view. Again I repeat to you that I'm sure you haven't watched the video. Before arguing watch the video
  11. My friend I don't think you've watch the entire video because all these points are answered 1. My statement mathematics is finite; god is one; therefore one added onto finite is infinite is a deductive reasoning methodology. I base my assumption on mathematics, then after the mathematics is set into place do I then only look at it from a religious aspect so no, I do not get God is one from the Quran. 2. God is infinite. Outside of our mathematical logic and outside of time and space. You on the other hand have two options negative, positive. Your created perfectly balanced. He provides the guidence within that balance. Your balance begins with a clean slate and not in a negative position, aka original sin. So you begin on 0. If you go against the balance, let's say you end up with a total of 70% negative, 30% positive, you end up having a negative total. Hence your decision determines your outcome of either negative or positive infinite once totaled in this case, infinte negative. 3. Eternity is equal to God. Please notice the relationship between the words of eternity and infinity. 4. My equation shows that you do not burn have the option of burning in hell and then entering paradise, of course if Allah wills he can change that but this goes against the whole concept of eternity. The equation shows that once your totaled and everything is weighed, it's either one way or the other for eternity. In the Quran it states we will all go pass hell, this is correct. Then it states you will see them for a final time and forget them. This is not talking about being in heaven and passing over them but rather on the day of judgement you will witness them burning then once you enter eternal paradise forget about their existence. Also the one is the Omni Allah. Infinity is an explanation of him and is his attributes or an explanation so as to us to contemplate him, in Islam to be considered his 99 names. This is all mentioned in the video
  12. To understand remove the finite universe in the equation. What do you end up with? 1+(+-)=∞, remove the mathematics, and your left with 1=∞. So in other words before us, between us and after us there is only 1 inifinte. He is one, but he is incomparable. I don't think you guys have sat down and watch the doco. The one I state before mathematics is the same 1 Allah states to you in the Quran, saying 100s of time he is one. The addition afterwards is his power, commandment or natural law. Within the brackets is acceptable logical mathematics and it's finite. The equals sign is judgment day The infinity is the after life In regards to Usually ±(a) is +a or -a. I'm stating that if you follow a positive path and the outweight your negatives you will end up eternal heaven, hence within the equation 1+(+)=+∞ Vice versa if you negatives outweigh your positive then you will end up in hell 1+(-)=-∞ For those who don't understand the aspect of between the brackets, please explain to me in the Qura. When it states, he made everything in pairs? What the Quran is saying equal and opposite, not male and female. Would you guys like to see examples in the Quran? Every Surah. Then if you want I can show you what it means to the look at the Quran with such a logical concept in mind.
  13. Allah has given you an equation. He tells you he is one. Word for word from the Quran SAY Allah IS ONE. I'm not making this up, it's in the Quran He also tells you nothing is like him ∞. So outside of our mathematics Allah is inifinite. I show with this equation that 1 outside of our mathematics is infinite and hence Allah is greater than anything even conceivable. My friend your quote "Those who will belive will need no prove from math , those who will not believe will not accept the most mighty miracle and sign" Is utterly wrong. The Qurans importance is its mathematics. If the Quran went against mathematics it we be illogical and collapse. Why do you think atheist always target genesis and never the Quran? Why do you think there are so many mathematical miracles in the Quran. Why does Allah state this book are for those who understand? The Quran doesn't want you to follow blindly at all. We are not Christian where "jesus is in the room" and we faint. This is where your heart follows your brain. On the contrary, Quran states mathematics and tells you in the universal language that he is the creator. Read the Al-Rahman Surah. It specifies everything in Science and mathematics then asks you "how can you deny?" Even the first Surah of the Quran, (not the al-Fatiha but the original first Surah I order, 96 Al-Alaq) explains firstly life to the prophet in a distinct way, I'll explain the Surah first two lines just for your convenience Read In the name of your Lord Who created He created man from a clot. Firstly Quran states Read In the name of your Lord. Don't follow blindly, study, learn, contemplate, decipher then follow. Read means knowledge. Knowledge is the key to life. So with the first word of the Quran you are given a direct commandment to follow the keys to life. Knowledge is also power so Then it continues by stating that your contemplation and understanding is a gift and a mercy from your lord so read in his name. Next line. Who created He created man from a clot. Now after mentioning that Allah is the provider of knowledge, it gives you a mathematical and scienitific miracle. It explains how the embryo works. If this had stated something against mathematics like, I.e he created man from a chicken, you would not believe the Quran. He gives you the key to life first, then strengthens his verse by a mathematical miracle that only modern science has found. Would you like me to continue? My friend Islam is not Christianity where the brain follows the heart. Islam is about the heart following the brain. That's exactly what I'm pointing out. Allah is greater than any knowledge and can not be compared. He is outside our mathematics and is infinite with power. He is the Omni of Everything An axiom is a logical statement or equation assumed to be true. My equation is stating that 1 added onto a finite mathematics is inifinte. Again this is not unknown by science. The only difference is I am showing it in an equation rather than the verbal communication. So my friend, the axioms you require are already proven. Ask any schools of academia based on science. Ask any Mathematican. Put it this way. Finite is something with a bound and a end. If you reach the maximum level of finite then add 1 more, what happens, it becomes infinite, hence the equation is already known to the world. I can show you hundreds of videos from the highest scholars speaking about this. I listened to there talks for over a year and not one thinks any different. Imam Ali according to this comment, is actually stating the equation. I show that 1 is ∞, outside of mathematics so it can't be counted. Imam Ali said one is that one should say 'God is one' and be thinking of number and counting. So please show me what I said is anything different to the imam?
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