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Revert1963

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  1. Yea but it is also the favorite subject for Muslims to mock Christians by.
  2. Why try to argue against it? If those who wants to believe in it really does that, why try to change their mind? When listening to convert stories a very common reason for Christians of almost any denomination to convert to Islam is because they don't make any sense of the trinity. The only way for the trinity to make sense is when you investigate the parallels in polytheist religion and understand the historical context. What ever Thomas Aquinas wrote about the trinity is post justification. The Qur'an on the other hand is much more clear about tawheed. Allah guides whom he wills:
  3. I don't mind debating with the Salafis, thought it might seem futile at times. If I was running a cafe or fast food restaurant I would think it was rude to ask them to leave as long as they behave. I would agree with you though that sites like IslamQA.info has to big of an influence on the Ummah. Unfortunately I think that many is not aware that these guys are takfiri terrorists.
  4. Trinity is not a revelation. The Bible does not mention trinity at all. It call Jesus the "son of man". Not the "son of God". Trinity is a political compromise between some of the Church fathers and the imperial administration of the Roman empire. The concept is similar to the same phenomenon in Hinduism. Christianity is not just an Abrahamic religion. It is also very much a Helenistic religion. For better or for worse.
  5. Yes. In reality Jesus became God for political reasons in the process where the Roman empire adopted Christianity as constitutional ideology. Before that Augustus used to have the title: "son of God" and therefore worshiped as a God. I think many of the Hindu gods can be traced back to similar political compromises. Especially during the Gupta dynasty.
  6. The existence of God is a logical inconsistency that defies causality. I think the trinity is easy to understand. In Hinduism they have a 1000 gods. Yet they believe there is only one. Christianity has three gods. Yet they believe there is only one. Same thing. No difference. I guess what matter is whether they focus on the "Yet there is only one" part of it or not.
  7. I can see where you are going with this. It just doesn't hold. Holy places has a value as a place to contemplate and focus on Allah(سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى). If it wasn't so, the Hajj would be void. To non-Muslims it looks like that Muslims are worshiping the Kaaba when circling it and kissing a black stone. At least as a confined space where "God lives." This is of cause not so because Allah(سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) I not confined. In principle the Qibla could be in any direction because God is everywhere without confines and undivided. The Kaaba is a holy place that serves as a common point of reference for Muslims in prayer. The Kaaba it self has no more protection against corona virus that the shrines of Imam Reza or Fatima Masumeh. There is a saying ascribed to the Prophet(صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) that goes: "Tie your camel and trust in God." In other words take your precautions also against viruses and then put your trust in Allah(سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى). This is true whether you seek him directly or through intercession. I am aware of the difference between worship and intercession. I do accept the arguments in the link you put forward and I don't think that Ibn Taymiyya's counterarguments hold. But I do think that you have to be aware what you are doing. I think it is one of the things that has in a historical sense corrupted the message that has been send to Prophets before Mohammed(صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم). It started with intercession and then all of a sudden people started to perceive angles and holy persons to be gods equal to the creator. I have read that the Alawite sect who is an offshoot of Shia has reached a point where they worship Imam Ali as a God. I am not sure if all Alawites would agree with that, but Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has apparently found it necessary to make a Fatwa stating that it is Shirk if they indeed has this belief. So even Muslims has to be aware of what they are doing. And as I said I personally don't feel the need for any intercession. Which I think makes sense. After all Allah(سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) did use the angle Jibril as an intermediary when transmitting the Qur'an to the Prophet(صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم)
  8. On a side note, I find it funny that I come from a tradition that is often considered Shirk. Which one doesn't matter, but one that worship the creator along with other heavenly beings. These heavenly beings are nothing in them selves and only do the will of the creator. So praying to them is a bit like tawassul seeking their intercession to reach the creator. I always worshiped the creator and thought it was a detour to seek the intercession of other heavenly beings. I did try, but I never felt it necessary because I had this personal relationship with the creator. One that eventually took me to Islam when he revealed him self as Allah. So when I hear Muslims talk about tawassul I think; is this really necessary? Personally I would like to be on the safe side and not inadvertently do something that is Shirk. I am not saying that it is. When these scholars say that it isn't Shirk it probably isn't, but I just thought it is funny.
  9. Who is it that broke up? the Sunnis is broken up into 4 madhabs. The Shia is really just the Jafari madhab. And if you investigate you will see that those who started the 4 Sunni madhabs was either students of Jafar al Sadiq(عليه السلام), the 6'th Imam and founder of the Jafari madhab, or students of his students. Even Sufi masters was students of Jafar al Sadiq(عليه السلام) and it is through him they count their traditions back to Imam Ali(عليه السلام). Ali ibn Abu Talib(عليه السلام) himself was appointed by the Prophet(صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) at Ghadir Khum. When Abu Bakr usurped the Kalifa, Imam Ali(عليه السلام).did not start a fitna over it but waited patiently even though he saw Uthman give positions of power to his opportunistic relatives like Muawia who's mother Hind was the last of the bani Quraish to convert to Islam. The same Hind that had instigated the battle if Uhud. So who started the breakup? The Ahl Ul Bayt or the Bani Umayah?
  10. Yes the tafsir say so and from the context that is the most plausible, but the word "to kill" or to "do damage" is still hidden and that was the point I was trying to make. (I thought the Miswak thing was quite funny, though) There is a lot of such ambiguities like that in the Quranic text and I think in some cases the hidden meaning is not as clear cut (if I may say so) as this example. That is where we have to rely on the tafsir. We laypeople at least.
  11. I think a part of it is also just being silly. The Kurds is one thing, but Erdogan tried to make peace with them at first until they threaten his neo-Ottoman dreams. To me it looks like that Erdogan has this silly idea, one might even say childish idea, of reestablishing the Ottoman empire. Whether he does it because he believes in it or just because it is popular with a lot of Turks I don't know, but Erdogan is clearly not the only Turk who has these childish ideas. I saw that my self 35 years ago when I was in Turkey first time and it was still like that when I was in Turkey 8 yeas ago. Being silly like that is not in the real interest of the Turks because they ruin their economy doing it. The US and Saudi is in it for the Money I think. Or rather their petrodollar arrangement. The whole Sunni-Shia conflict is because the house of Saud got frightened by the Iranian revolution. In order for it not to spread to their kingdom they invented the anti-Shia takfirism which they have been pushing for decades. Israel is really just as silly as Erdogan with their mix of 19'th century imperialism and Bronze-age fairy tale nationalism. Only they are more clever and more ruthless than Erdogan. Their common goal is of cause to break the alliance between Iran, Syria and Hizbollah. An alliance that came into being because of a common interest to resist the attempt of western imperialism to dominate the region. And in that they found common ground with Russia. So what's in it for the Muslim brothers? (I am not saying Sunnis because there is a lot of Sunnis that is on the side of the government.) I think partially power. A part of their propaganda leading up to the civil war was the idea of cleansing Syria of minorities so that the Sunnis could rule. The Muslim brothers is of cause also known to be conservative and many of them probably didn't like the westernization of Syrian society for better or for worse. Syria had for many years a lax regulation on honor-killings because the government was afraid to ostracize the conservative elements of society. To day the Syrian government has taken steps to make a serious crack down on people who kill their relatives for honor related reasons. Probably because those they tried to appease is either dead or cornered in Idlib. The takfiri terrorists, Daesh, Al-Qaida and other Salafi groups is of cause doing the bidding of their Saudi patrons, but they also have their own agenda, like Erdogan, to reestablish the Kaliffa. A popular idea among many Sunnis. Probably because many Arabs feel an inferiority after being ruled by Ottomans for centuries and being economically bypassed by Europeans. The Salafis also has a revolutionary zeal that origins from the fight against the Soviets in Afghanistan that appeal to a sense of righteousness in young people. Unfortunately they have been misled to fight against their own interest. Just imagine if all that energy had been used to fight Zionism instead? The Kurds I think initially just tried to defend their villages, but then they got caught up in PKKs Rojava pipedream. They also tried to play the other players and thought they could advance their cause by allying them selves with the US and Israel and sometimes withe the Syrian government when the two others couldn't help them against Erdogan. So yes there are many interests in that conflict, but the major underlying trends is anti-Shia takfirism and the Palestine Conflict.
  12. Have you thought about the possibility that evolution is an intelligent design trait of Allah's creation?
  13. I think that the word "infallible" is unfortunate because human beings are fallible by nature. Both the Prophet(صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) and the 12 Imams(عليهم السلام) was human beings, so by default they would have been fallible. They where not demigods or angles. However, if I am not mistaken, it is perfectly possible for Allah to bestow a blessing on them that will protect them from failing in maters important too delivering and preserving the message. I think that most tafseer, both Sunni and Shia, presupposes that there is a hidden meaning in the language of the Qur'an. One example is the infamous verse 8:12 from Surat Al-Anfal; "[...] So strike their necks, and strike their every limb joint!" It does not say with what to strike the neck and fingers. It could be with a Miswak for all we know, but it is generally assumed that it is with a scimitar. The Qur'an is full of such ambiguous language with hidden meaning.
  14. Having intimacy wherever, whenever and with whoever is a trait of the libertarian ideology. They want to detach the individual from all community including family. Some feminists is like that too but far from all. Some feminists want all women to be lesbians. Some Feminists want to ban prostitution. Feminism is a lot of things. Not all of it is bad even though some are misguided. I would say that the family is destroyed when adultery is condoned, but adultery is pretty much normalized in most western societies.
  15. Allah guides who he will. To be honest I don't think he asks your permission before hand. May he also guide you.
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