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Revert1963

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  1. Leader of the Islamic Revolution Ayatollah Seyyed Ali Khamenei has called on Afghanistan’s authorities to punish the perpetrators behind the Friday terrorist attack targeting worshippers at a packed Shia mosque in the northern Afghan city of Kunduz. https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2021/10/09/668184/Leader-urges-Afghan-officials-to-punish-Friday-attack-perpetrators Iran’s President Ebrahim Raeisi has voiced concerns about the persistence of terrorist acts in neighboring Afghanistan, saying it is no secret that the growth of the Daesh terrorist group, which claimed responsibility for the latest terrorist act in Afghanistan, was a US job. https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2021/10/09/668171/Iran-s-president--US-backed,-planned-Daesh-growth-in-Afghanistan
  2. The western society is inherently corrupt, but there was always corruption. Even in Islamic history. Think about Caliphs such ad Harun Al Rashid or Mammoon or Yazid for that matter. What kind of life did they live? However I think there is a tendency, especially among conservative Muslim to focus on the carnal sins (zina) and ignore economic sins. While many Muslim parents would condemn their children for being gay where as they would love them to be venture capitalists. Both is giving in to worldly desire. Thinking that one is worse that the other is hypocrisy.
  3. In any case it would be a stupid thing to do, trading the afterlife for material gains in this world.
  4. I have no trouble believing that the Taleban is fully capable of committing massacres and other atrocities, however the Amnesty International does not have a very good track record. Their trustworthiness was not particular high during the Syrian conflict. My own experience with them is that they don't fact-check information given to them when the information suits their agenda. So I was wondering; do we have more trustworthy sources reporting this?
  5. I am trying to explain to you why Imam Khomaini issued the fatwa that allowed for a person to undergo surgery to unveil their true gender. I am mainly relying on information that can be found in this article: احکام و آثار تغییر جنسیت از دیدگاه امام خمینی Unfortunately it is behind a pay wall, but you can read the first part of the article if you register for free. My premise is that Imam Khomaini did not do this in order to make homosexuals "normal" by changing their gender, like it is thought in the west. Nor did Imam Khomaini do this in order to promote the LGBTQ+agenda like some Sunni extremists would claim. Imam Khomaini did not think that such a procedure has any jurisprudential problems in Islamic law. In other words he could not find any basis for ruling that surgery to unveil a persons true gender is a sin. I think that according to Islam, Allah(سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) is able to create what ever he wants. Therefore I think that Imam Khomaini considered it quite possible that Allah(سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) has created persons with the genitals of one gender and the brain of an other. Exactly parallel with intersex people / Hermaphrodites. I think that what blocks you from understanding Imam Khomaini's view is that you view this condition in the light of the western LGBTQ+ concept. However when Allah(سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) creates challenges for people it is not always about abstaining from sin. Creating a person with ambiguous genital or a person with just one arm or with no legs certainly is challenging for these people, but prohibiting them from remedy their physical condition is not a part of the challenge. In Imam Khomaini's view it is the same way with persons who's genitals does not match their brain.
  6. This is not difficult to prove. Just pick up a Quran and read. It is clearly spoken to men, where as when it speaks of women it says something like "tell your women..." one example is the one below: I am not even talking about the difference in judgement in the two verses, that could be debated, but the Quran is here talking to the men and about the women as if the women is not present and the ones who has to act upon this is the men. However this is not unique for the Quran. The Bible and religious texts from other religions does the same thing. So the Quran is not worse that other scriptures in this regard. As Muslims we must believe that the Quran is preserved in (or at least very close to) its original form, but Islam is more than the Quran. The hadith is also a part of the religion of Islam and so is the various Madhabs, Sufi Orders, Schools of Aqidah, sects and the whole social construction of the Muslim Ummah. I think it is pretty clear to most that not all hadith are sahih and a lot of them are fabrication. Furthermore Muslim scholars does not agree among them selves and have an opinion different from God. Even though God send the Quran to correct the corruption in other religions, according to the Quran, he did also send his message to the other religions before they went astray. So all religion has gone astray to some degree even though Islam had preserved his message in the Quran. I think that we just agreed that the Quran is the preserved message of Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى). In the Quran he writes the following: Even though the meaning of the word misogyny can be debated, this verse is clearly not in line with modern emancipation. No I do not say that feminists are infallible and there are a lot of feminist I do not agree with. I believe in God to the degree that I am certain about his existence and I am aware that I am nothing without him. That is why his opinion matters a lot to me. I feel though that he ought to be fair. Otherwise he would just be a tyrant. That is why I am in a constant debate with him about such verses as Sura An-Nisa 4:34
  7. "Assisted suicide" is the taking of an other persons life. This is clearly prohibited in the Quran. The same could not be said about an operation to unveil a persons gender. Would you consider it impossible for God to create a person with female genitals and a male brain? Even though there is a big overlap I think most people would agree that there is differences between men and women. Also in the way we think. There are even reports that differences in male and female thought patterns has shown up on brain scans. This would suggest that person with, say, female genitals and a male brain is not "normal biology." I think that Imam Khomaini was aware that he could not rule out the existence of such a condition and there for he could not automatically assume that the person that sought his permission undergo surgery was delusional. I therefore find it unlikely that Imam Khomaini had any ulterior motives, neither to promote the LGBTQ+agenda nor to make homosexuals "normal" by changing their gender.
  8. Well we never know, do we? I think that a lot of Muslim men would like him to be (or think he is). At least according to the definition of misogyny by some contemporary feminists.
  9. I wouldn't put it like that. What I am trying to do is to state the fact that all the religious texts are written in a patriarchal language. I use to belong to a polytheist religion and we had the same problems there with sayings ascribed to God. It is a challenge for the believer if God is found to condone oppressive power structures. Be it patriarchal or otherwise. I don't think that God does this. Especially because Islam emphasizes submitting to Allah only and not to any taghut. This is the core of tawheed. However Allah is not equal to his religion. Allah is perfect where as religion is corrupted to varying degree. That is why I think we have to ask our selves all the time what is from Allah and what is from corruption. And if something is from Allah but still seams unfair we have to search for an explanation. Like for instance what you mentioned your self that apparent unfairness may reflect the differences between the genders or difference in society. But I think that these are questions that we all have to reflect on.
  10. The grade of that hatith is Dhaeef. It is a weak hadith
  11. All religions are sexist. (Maybe except modern religions such as Wicca that are designed especially to be feminist). Even non-Abrahamic religions are sexist. All the religious texts I can think of are written in a patriarchal language. The question is if this reflect that the tradition of these religions is written by men and therefore represents a "male discourse" or is it because God is inherently sexist? All religions has been subject to corruption. Even in Islam there is no way of denying that hadiths has been fabricated in the same way that the texts of other religions has been corrupted. In other words is the sexism in Islam and other religions a consequence of the corruption or is it the will of Allah? As Muslims we must believe that the Quran is the unaltered word of God. Unfortunately there are passages in the Quran that is less favorable for women, So does that mean that Allah is at least a little bit misogynistic? Maybe but the Quran is not even close to the misogyny of certain hadith in both the Sunni and Shia tradition. So are these hadiths fabricated?
  12. I am well aware that religious texts will sometimes be bast understood when we take them allegorically, but you still claim that God has fathered children through a woman. Whether he had sex or it was artificial insemination is really beside the point. You still claim a physical family relationship. If I am not mistaken there is a hadith (I don't remember the reference) where The prophet Mohammed(صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) is accused of worshiping a "Muslim trinity" - the three gods called Allah, Al Rahman and Al Raheem. This is an amusing hadith because all Muslims know that this is not thee gods, but the name of God; Allah and two qualities of God; Al Rahman and Al Raheem - The Most Gracious and The Most Merciful. When we look at the Hindu trinity; Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva it should be easy to see from an Islamic point of view that this is similar to the above mentioned hadith of the "Muslim trinity" because all three names are qualities of God. Brahma is the Creator that correspond to Allahs name al-Khaliq in Arabic, Vishnu is the Sustainer - Ar-Razzaaq in Arabic and Shiva is the Vanquisher - al-Qahhar in Arabic. Even if you talk to some Hindus they will say that God is one and that the Hindu trinity are avatars of the one God. Some Hindus will fight over whether Brahma, Vishnu or Shiva are the real God and who of the two others are the Avatars. The main division in Hinduism is over this question. The Christian trinity on the other hand messes it up even further. Not only do you separate Gods name from the two qualities of God; his word and his spirit, You also throw a human being into the equation claiming that "God came down from heaven to be born as a human being." Let be that you limit God by suggesting that he "came" from one place to an other. The claim that God took a human form is similar to the Hindu God Ram, who might have been a real person and a prophet like Jesus, but which the Hindus claim is God incarnated. Ram most certainly lived long before Jesus, so it is not the Hindus who copied Christianity here. Whether Christianity copied Hinduism directly I don't know but the idea was clearly there before Christianity. So how is it that the Christians would gladly designate Hinduism as polytheism or even "pagan" while having so much of a beam in their own eye that they can't see that Christianity is the same thing?
  13. How is believing that God is a father not polytheism? If god has fathered (or mothered, can anybody tell what gender God is?) just one child, that child (be it son or daughter) would also be a god (or goddess). Then there would be two gods and more that one god equals polytheism.
  14. If you talk to an Atheist I am sure he would call religious people delusional. So the way you define reality also define what you call delusional. This is not always true. If just one of the parents is infertile for some reason, male + female does not make baby. I think that the person who approached him, who was suffering from gender dysphoria, did not come across to him as delusional. He also knew that this was a diagnosis made by doctors skilled in their field, just like Imam Khomaini was skilled in the field of Islamic Jurisprudence. He did not want to question expert in a field where he was a lay person. Therefore he would not think of transsexualism as "normal biology with delusional belief" but as a case of hermaphroditism where the brain was not aligned with the body. In your terms "abnormal biology" where the brain had been attached to the wrong kind of genitals. However I think that he did not think in the terms that you do. His focus was Islamic jurisprudence and he could not deduce from the Quran and the Hadith any prohibition for this kind of surgery. When something is not specifically forbidden by Gods law it is allowed. Even if it is considered abnormal, delusional or disgusting by laypeople.
  15. The problem is how do you determine if somebody is delusional? I think in this case it is difficult to do without resorting to a circular argument. One of the principals of taglid is that knowledge and education gives qualifications that ordinary laypeople do not have. Imam Khomaini knew that he was not a medical professional. That is why he leaves the decision whether a person is delusional to a qualified physician in his fatwa. "Gender dysphoria" is a medical condition that can be diagnosed by doctors. The various issues surrounding such a medical diagnosis is a discussion for the relevant medical professionals. This I think is the core principal that motivated Imam Khomaini from a jurisprudencial point of view. Another thing that played a key factor was that he was approached by a patient suffering from this condition, with whom he had several discussions. Both in France and later in Iran. I think that had this person come across as generally delusional, Imam Khomaini might not have issued his fatwa regarding the operation. These hadiths are often mentioned in this context, however there are also hadiths stating that the prophet(صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) says that he did not come here in order to curse anyone. Both can't be true so this indicates that there is a problem of authentication with the hadith. Of cause issues such as hermaphrodites and cross dressing does have a history in Islamic jurisprudence. Through history Islamic scholars have had to answer question of gender determination in relation to congregational prayers, inheritance and so on. Imam Khomaini bases his view of patients suffering from gender dysphoria on the historical jurisprudencial debate regarding hermaphrodites. In reality he treats gender dysphoria as a case of "mental hermaphroditism" rather than a case of "imitation." When Islamic jurisprudence has referenced cross dressing it has always been in cases where people (most often males) has pretended to be the opposite sex in order to gain access to forbidden areas. This is what is called "imitation." In the case of gender dysphoria this pretense is not there. Of cause if someone would pretend to have gender dysphoria for the purpose of forbidden gaze, that would be haram, but this is not the motivation of the patients suffering from the mentioned medical condition. On the contrary pretending to have a condition that will lead to a sex change operation does not make sense if it is for the purpose of sexual gratification. You will also see that the majority of the people in the west claiming to be transgender does not want to have the operation simply because most of them are not really suffering from gender dysphoria but cross dress for all sort of lewd reasons. I think it is pretty clear that the Quran does not go in detail with a lot of issues. However the very reason for Islamic Fiqh is the need to deduce Islamic law from the principals outlined in the Quran and authentic hadiths.
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