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  1. I'm new to forums, so I apologize if my posting etiquette, not sure if I should make individual posts, or just respond to everything in one :-P Where does this come from? As @Son of Placid said, there should be contradictions. But what Paul wrote is consistent with what other Apostles wrote, both before and after him...not really the topic of this thread, but I am interested. :-) I was reminded yesterday of Matthew 24:37-44 (NIV), where Jesus talked about the end times with his disciples. Totally agree. Our pastor did a 10 or 12 week sermon series a couple years ago that went through the whole Bible. When he got to Revelation, he had a stack of 10-15 books written on the subject that he had in is personal library, most with different opinions, all written by God-fearing men. His point was that we need to approach it with humility, because with all the imagery and his interpretation, no one really knows.
  2. I doubt it would have been taught at that age. I may talk about eschatology with my 15 year old, but I don’t really think it age appropriate for my 11 yr old (5th grade). Totally agree. I can’t really think of how another denomination that is orthodox could interpret that. I think that the Seventh Day Adventist denomination believe that it already happened, but they have to ignore other Scripture to make that view make sense (they also don’t believe in a literal hell and that God is not really going to punish anyone). I don’t know what the Jehovah’s Witness or Mormons believe about this topic - they have much bigger problems with their theology than this.
  3. That was HILARIOUS. I love the spoof on the name of the movie “Left Below”
  4. This guy was DEFINTELY a false Prophet, but a do think most people think of that book series. There were also a couple pretty bad movies made from the books. A quick Google search pulled up that close to 80 million copies were sold.
  5. This particular view is a relatively new view (as I understand it) in the North American Evangelical world...I could be wrong about that. It was made especially popular with the book series Left Behind which was written and made very popular in the mid to late 1990s.
  6. Hello, The teaching of the Rapture comes from the Apostle Paul’s letter to the church in Thessalonica. The context surrounding the passage is Paul giving the believers there hope in that, although their loved ones die, they are not to mourn as though all hope is lost for them 1 Thessalonians 4:13–14 (NIV): 13 Brothers and sisters, we do not want you to be uninformed about those who sleep in death, so that you do not grieve like the rest of mankind, who have no hope. 14 For we believe that Jesus died and rose again, and so we believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in him. The actual teaching of the rapture starts with verse 16: 16 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. 18 Therefore encourage one another with these words. The timing of when these events will happen is up for discussion because Scripture is not clear. It is believed this will happen around the time of the end of the world as we know it; when God pours out his judgment on the unbelieving world (referred to as The Tribulation and The Great Tribulation). As far as I know, all Evangelical denominations teach this (possibly Catholics as well?). There is in-house debate ast to the timing. Some believe the Rapture will happen before the Tribulation...some believe it will happen in the middle of it...and some believe at the end. I’ve heard compelling cases made for all three views. As far as “who” gets raptured, it would be anyone who believes in Jesus as Messiah (John 14:6), or anyone not of the age or mental capacity to make that decision for themselves I hope that is helpful!
  7. What about serving alcohol, like as a waiter at a restaurant? The restaurant sells alcohol, a customer orders it, is it permissible to give it to them?
  8. Hello, I would like to read the Hadith, but I’ve heard that some are not considered accurate/trustworthy. Can you recommend a couple books that are seen in high regard to Muslims of all backgrounds? Also, what English version of the Qur'an is considered the most accurate translation? Thank you in advance!
  9. I would agree that most are zionists...but when you actually look at the actions of some Jews (and Christians & Muslims for that matter), I don't know how anyone can say those actions are condoned by God. My neighbor is from Palestine and was telling me about when she was young, people would release pigs down their street...no true follower of the God of Abraham would do such a thing. As far as "very prozelyt," if I am understanding your point, most Christians have not taken the time or effort to know what they believe and why they believe it. They hear a point and try to make a point or interpret the Scriptures without understanding it themselves. One thing that I highly respect in Islam is the fact that children are taught at such a young age and the faith is such and integral part of life. I'm relatively new to learning about Islam, and there are a lot of things we have in common and there are things that are different. Overall, to answer your question, we should have good relationships with each other. As written in the Injeel, Matthew 22:36-40 New International Version (NIV) 36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?” 37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.” God bless you all, I am looking forward to learning and being part of this community.
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