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Bukhari vs Al Kafi
Syed Ali Mehdi Shah Naqvi replied to MohammadAli1993's topic in Shia/Sunni Dialogue
Avaliable in form of Kutab e Arba + Other Old Kutab. Purpose of writing down old sources into their own books was to save majority of compilations. You see, out of almost 200 works of Sadooq, a few ( less than 20 ) survived i think. And THAT WAS WHY our Rijal** books were written down. These aren't books on narrators, rather their name is: فهرست أسماء مصنفين الشيعة By Tusi and Nijashi etc. These books have names of COMPILERS OR AUTHORS of books of Shia Mazhab ( Not Narrators ). You can find details and chain to their books in books of Nijashi tusi etc. -
Bukhari vs Al Kafi
Syed Ali Mehdi Shah Naqvi replied to MohammadAli1993's topic in Shia/Sunni Dialogue
There is not only one person that copies from a book, there are many. Written transmission is subject to less alteration or hadith is most probably transmitted with its original wording which gets lost when transmitting a phrase or sentence orally. This can be witnessed in real life. Also there is no gap between imam (عليه السلام) and our hadith compilations because Imam Sadiq (عليه السلام) told his companions to write down their hadiths while Sunni oral transmission is broken due until ban of narrating hadiths was lifted. There is minimal issue of memory in written hadith transmissi -
Bukhari vs Al Kafi
Syed Ali Mehdi Shah Naqvi replied to MohammadAli1993's topic in Shia/Sunni Dialogue
Let him write and inshaAllah then i will try to write about when did our hadith compilations start. He has bluffed about Memory of Bukhari lol but isn't willing to accept transmission that is way more secure due to people writing them down and then other people including their books into their own. These people only can refer to Rijal of Khoei and modren scholars and think they have researched whole shia mazhab and their narrations are filled with Majaheel. Let him write inshaAllah then we will see. I'm no expert but i got some questions. -
Misconceptions about shias
Syed Ali Mehdi Shah Naqvi replied to Mahenoor._'s topic in Shia/Sunni Dialogue
First, these people (along with others) kill shia (past-present), when shia hide their beliefs, they accuse them of taqqiyah such hypocrisy. Many sunni molvis have accepted Taqqiyah is allowed and legal including this: And there is Molvi Ishaq from Pakistan who admitted it. I don't wanna saying anything now. -
Misconceptions about shias
Syed Ali Mehdi Shah Naqvi replied to Mahenoor._'s topic in Shia/Sunni Dialogue
Here: Why has no one debated him? Plus he's your own Mufti -
Misconceptions about shias
Syed Ali Mehdi Shah Naqvi replied to Mahenoor._'s topic in Shia/Sunni Dialogue
Why adnan rasheed ran away from Mufti Abu Layth on this topic? Your own muftis are accepting Bukhari was passed down by Majhool person whos tawtheeq was done by none of his ham-asrs ( scholars of his time ). Should i paste a video of adnan rasheed running away here? -
Misconceptions about shias
Syed Ali Mehdi Shah Naqvi replied to Mahenoor._'s topic in Shia/Sunni Dialogue
Alright guys: Hassan Shirani vs Hassan Allahyari: Upto you who ran away. One can be one streets to discuss shiaism with common twelvers but not scholars. Adnan Rasheed never responded to his challenges. Mohammad Hijab never agreed to debate over call. Two videos each 1+ hours long enough to expose their drama of debating shias. -
Misconceptions about shias
Syed Ali Mehdi Shah Naqvi replied to Mahenoor._'s topic in Shia/Sunni Dialogue
Nightclaw you are a biased person who can just taunt others for not knowing arabic. I talked to you on Context of Ghadir and you couldn't bring a single proof that context of Ghadir was yemen. All you did was copy paste arguments of people you mentioned. And you even came up with arabic issue in that forum somehow. If you know arabic, atleast make sure you read the sources before quoting them. And if you want to discuss Ghadir e Khum over call or voice chat (if we need time to fetch sources) you can contact me on facebook here is link: https://m.facebook.com/JIREN -
Misconceptions about shias
Syed Ali Mehdi Shah Naqvi replied to Mahenoor._'s topic in Shia/Sunni Dialogue
Please prove it. And make sure scholar you quote on this issue has a proof. -
Misconceptions about shias
Syed Ali Mehdi Shah Naqvi replied to Mahenoor._'s topic in Shia/Sunni Dialogue
And everyone ran away from Hassan Allahyari. 2 1.5 hours long videos of Hassan shimar ani are there on Allahyaris channel. Stop misguiding shia youth -
Misconceptions about shias
Syed Ali Mehdi Shah Naqvi replied to Mahenoor._'s topic in Shia/Sunni Dialogue
Just look at this lol All he comes up with to refute hadith, is word of scholars saying oh its not like that it must have been abrogated thats why people left reciting it. Or it has been said Rasool (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) stopped people from reciting it etc etc what nonsense A verse was recited and was in Quran till Rasool (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) died. Its means verse was abrogated? LOOOOL Kam kr yar -
Misconceptions about shias
Syed Ali Mehdi Shah Naqvi replied to Mahenoor._'s topic in Shia/Sunni Dialogue
We do not abrogate any verse or cause it to be forgotten unless We substitute for it something better or similar; do you know that God has power over all things?" (2.100) Verse doesn't get removed, it gets substituted by a better one. Please refer meto verse that abrogated above verses -
Misconceptions about shias
Syed Ali Mehdi Shah Naqvi replied to Mahenoor._'s topic in Shia/Sunni Dialogue
That alone indicates VERSES WENT MISSING AFTER PROPHET (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) PASSED AWAY. Comparing it to Mutah lolzzz lets just stick to one topic for now and don't try to escape. Ayesha said 1st, ayah of 10.. was revealed in Quran then it was abrogated by 5 and it was recited by people and was in Quran till Rasool (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) passed away. Where does it say Rasool (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) abrogated and stoped people from reciting it? Its Quran the Book of Allah not Book of Your Scholars who would decide which verse was abrogated by their ijtehaad. -
Misconceptions about shias
Syed Ali Mehdi Shah Naqvi replied to Mahenoor._'s topic in Shia/Sunni Dialogue
And that is an opinion that has no proof. Plus Rasool (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) lived after 5:3. And testimony of Ayesha is there saying ayah was recited and in Quran till Rasool (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) passed away. And ayesha isn't alone there are many others. -
Misconceptions about shias
Syed Ali Mehdi Shah Naqvi replied to Mahenoor._'s topic in Shia/Sunni Dialogue
We can say the same about you. -
Misconceptions about shias
Syed Ali Mehdi Shah Naqvi replied to Mahenoor._'s topic in Shia/Sunni Dialogue
Ayesha clearly said: That verse was revealed in Quran and recited till Rasool (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) died. It clearly means it went missing after him (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم). -
Misconceptions about shias
Syed Ali Mehdi Shah Naqvi replied to Mahenoor._'s topic in Shia/Sunni Dialogue
Waaaah! Waaaaaaaaaaooo! you yourself need to visit that link and re read article. What you come up with is some scholars saying it has been said that it was abrogated later or prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) stopped its recitation which is totally against matn of hadith lolzzzz Please bring a hadith, saheeh, that says Prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) stopped people from reciting this verse. Go ahead. Even if it was abrogated, there are abrogated verses in Quran. It doesn't mean abrogated verse gets removed from Quran Mr. -
Misconceptions about shias
Syed Ali Mehdi Shah Naqvi replied to Mahenoor._'s topic in Shia/Sunni Dialogue
Here: 'A'isha (Allah be pleased with, her) reported that it had been revealed in the Holy Qur'an that ten clear sucklings make the marriage unlawful, then it was abrogated (and substituted) by five sucklings and Allah's Apostle (ﷺ) died and it was before that time (found) in the Holy Qur'an (and recited by the Muslims). حَدَّثَنَا يَحْيَى بْنُ يَحْيَى، قَالَ قَرَأْتُ عَلَى مَالِكٍ عَنْ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ أَبِي بَكْرٍ، عَنْ عَمْرَةَ، عَنْ عَائِشَةَ، أَنَّهَا قَالَتْ كَانَ فِيمَا أُنْزِلَ مِنَ الْقُرْآنِ عَشْرُ رَضَعَاتٍ مَعْلُومَاتٍ يُحَرِّمْنَ . ثُمَّ نُسِخْنَ بِخَمْسٍ مَعْلُومَات -
Misconceptions about shias
Syed Ali Mehdi Shah Naqvi replied to Mahenoor._'s topic in Shia/Sunni Dialogue
My friends often taunt me by saying you don't believe in current Quran or you have a different one. So i show them narration of Ayesha saying verse was revealed in Kitab Allah and it isn't found today from Sahih Muslim -
Some twelvers came up with this: فأما نكاح الشرائف من آل رسول الله فلا يجوز ذلك عندنا إلا لآل رسول الله صلى الله عليه والوجه في ذلك قوله صلى الله عليه: <واصطفاني من بني هاشم>، وقوله صلى الله عليه: <لا يزوجن النساء إلا من الأكفاء، ولا كفؤ لأولاد فاطمة عليها السلام إلا منهم أصول الأحكام: الجامع لأدلة الحلال والحرام - متوكل على الله، أحمد بن سليمان ج٤، ص٧ Now, first thing is that this is a Book by Zaidi Scholar and has nothing to do with Twlevers. Secondly he uses a hadith in here which is: وقوله صلى الله عليه: <لا يزوجن النساء إلا من الأكفاء، ولا كفؤ لأو
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Misconceptions about shias
Syed Ali Mehdi Shah Naqvi replied to Mahenoor._'s topic in Shia/Sunni Dialogue
I have seen some people saying that Shias believe Ali (عليه السلام) was going to be a Nabi but Jibreal made mistake and gave it to Propeht Muhammad (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) Astagfirullah. I was wondering where did that come from? -
Hey! Is Maqatil Al-Talibeen by Abi Al Farj Al Asfahani a zaidi source?
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Complex or not, evidence, is evidence. The complexity of religious laws, is for experts to understand they need not to tell a jahil like me about them who just wanna know about certain thing. Now point is in hadiths, experts have been told to convey hadith. And jahil like me are told to look for narrators of hadith. There is no nass on following opinion without evidence of an Aadil Faqeeh or mufti. In contrast to this, you will find opposite hadiths. Where Imam condemned others, who did this.
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I would have loved to do so.. And bro, lets say, even if you somehow proved taqlid in stuff related with motors you should also mention how many times they ditch people Also how come this, proves taqlid in religion. This is qias.
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