Syed Ali Mehdi Shah Naqvi

You ask why i dont take names of all imams in tashahud. Its 3rd shahadah of wilayat and imamte which testifies all 12. I take it with intention of testifying imamate of all 12 imams. You believe in Nabuwat in usool e din, why dont you testify 1,02,4000 prophets? Dont you believe i. Them? But Muhammad S.A.W is the best Nabi and Rasool so we testify by saying his name, indirectly its testimony of all the prophets. Similarly after Risalat, there is Imamate and Ali is the Best Imam and we testify his wilayat which is sufficient and is testimony of imamate of all 12 imams. You say Ali could have been an imam what a cusred faith is that. You mean Ali wasn't an imam? What does imamate of other imams has to do with imamate of Ali A S? They got imamate by testifying Wilayat e Ali A.S. Prophets got prophethood by testifying Alis Wilayat. All shias do believe in all this and their are ahadiths plus i am already on a shia chat site. Shame on shias like you who dont have a right aqeeda. You doubt in imamate of Ali A.S by saying he could have been an imam. Seriously are you a shia?

Who are you and your molvis to fix tashahud then? I am tired of writing this again and again. bring someone who can convince and teach me. Allah says in quran: وَالَّذينَ هُم بِشَهاداتِهِم قائِمونَ  وَالَّذينَ هُم عَلىٰ صَلاتِهِم يُحافِظونَ  أُولٰئِكَ في جَنّاتٍ مُكرَمونَ Allah uses the word شهادات not شهادتين. شهادتين is for two testimonies شهادات is for more than two at least. when God has told to be atleast with at least at least at least with 3 in order to enter the paradise (gardens), who is your molvi to call my namaz azaan iqamah batil????? When Muhammad S.A.W announced la ilaha illalah for the first time, he didn't announce about his own testimony and people who said la ilaha illalah definately went to paradise, next was ashadu anna muhammad an abdu hu wa rasoolu and one who died on it went to paradise but at ghadeer e khum, Allah made wilayat obligatory, i dont need to mention ayahs that were revealed there where Allah said to Muhammad S.A.W if you donot do this, then you haven't conyed the message of Allah, All ullama e shia say Wilayat e Ali was declared openly. There are atleast three wilayats according to Quran 5:55 which are to be testified. Allah want you to testy in tashahud, while you skip shahadat e salisa. According to above ayat you should testify forat least 3 so kalima and tashahud are where you give testimonies so WHY NOT THERE!?

plus i typed Ash hadu Allah in hurry while in arabic its أشهد أن لا إله إلا الله وحده لا شريك له, وأشهد أنّ محمدا عبده ورسوله. اللهم صلى على محمد وآل محمد We are exactly testifying by saying word أشهد which means i testify. What sort of question is that? Plus you say "quran has told us about wilayate ali without naming him..if he had named him the problem would have been solved but this wold have implied only he could have been imam and no one after himself..after ali a.s there are imams !fatima a.s is hujjah on ali a.s..whyher name should not be taken in salat?isnt she mentioned in quran?" Q: So If quran hasn't named, why should we? Because Muhammad S.A.W and Aima A.S has named it wilayat e Ali. Plus i you said Q he could have been an imam. So you want to say he could have been but wasn't an imam? Plus like in ayah: أَطِيعُوا اللَّهَ وَأَطِيعُوا الرَّسُولَ Which Rasool to obey? A: The one who told you this. now : اِنَّمَا وَلِيُّكُمُ اللّٰهُ وَرَسُوۡلُهٗ وَالَّذِيۡنَ اٰمَنُوۡا الَّذِيۡنَ يُقِيۡمُوۡنَ الصَّلٰوةَ وَيُؤۡتُوۡنَ الزَّكٰوةَ وَهُمۡ رٰكِعُوۡنَ‏ ﴿۵۵﴾ Who are the ones who pay zakat while they bow down? A: Ones whom Rasool S.A.W and Aima A.S told us about. i didn't expect such questions from shias though, You should listen to Allama Shahenshah NAqvi why their names havn't been mentioned in quran. Who is Imam e Mubeen? Who is the one who pay zakat while he bow down, who is the one who is enough for testimony of Risalat with Allah. I doubt if shias like you have a strong concept of wilayat. What do you mean by tashahud first tell me this? Here i am quoting a hadith from Imam Muhammad Baqir A.S: قلت لابی جعفر علیه السلام أی شیء أقول فی التشهد و القنوت؟ قال قل بأحسن ما علمت فإنه لو كان موقناً لهلك الناس Some one asked Imam Muhammad Baqir (as) as to what is to be recited in the qunoot and Tashahhud of Namaz. Imam Replied saying: “Recite that seems best, if this would have been fixed (as to what is to be recited) then people would have been perished”. [Ref: Furu-e-Kaafi Vol: 3 Pg: 337 & Khulasat-al-Haqaiq vol: 1 pg: 255] Imam Baqir says recite what seems best

Walid Tariq isnt that a childish question that hadith says la ilaha illalah while i say ashadu Allah ilaha illalah. So i should say la ilaha illalah. Knowing i am reciting it in tashahud, i can say that. You tashahud is ashadu Allah ilaha illalah wah da hu la sharika lahu wa ash hadu anna muhammad an abdu hu wa rasoolu Allah humma salle ala Muhammad, wa aal e Muhammad Can you show this one by single hadith with Sanad e Sahih without addition or subtraction of a single harf?

Walid Tariq i listen to Bashir Najafi sahib in as well( less compared to others) he said we want to teach Allah and Rasool the Namaz. I said curse be upon the liar. If i want to teach and i am lying here, then curse be upon me and my thoughts. Point is why cannot i say it in salat. has any imam prohibited >? any hadith from imam in which he prohibited. I am not an expert to present refrences. I presented one hadith which i have heard by our alims and they said its okay. Imam e Sadiq says above hadith and bashir najafi say donot recite why? And if bashir najafi has reqad alot of hadith against above one, that prohibits 3rd testimony, then show me one. with refrence and its authenticty ( with refrence of book of particular scholor) i will go and show my alims that hadith. قال امام صادق علیه السلام : اذا قال احدكم لا اله الا الله محمد رسول الله فلیقل علی امیر المومنین ولی الله. this has no criteria menioned. My Leader Jaffer e Sadiq A.S says recite. since the quote doesnt mention any condition, therefore it is applicable in every manner. imam says when ytou say shahadatein say shahadt e salisa then please bring hadith in which imam stopped from wilayat of Ali in namaz or azaan. so that i can see that Marajas have viewd alot more ahadith in contradiction and derived a possible (best) solution!

Hwen imam e Sadiq A.S says قال امام صادق علیه السلام : اذا قال احدكم لا اله الا الله محمد رسول الله فلیقل علی امیر المومنین ولی الله. Imam Jafar Sadiq (as) says: “When any one from you says ‘La ilaha illa Allah, Muhammadan Rasool Allah” then he must say ‘Alian Wali Allah’. [Ref: Al-Ehtejaaj Vol: 1 Pg: 230 / Bihar Al Anwar Vol: 27 Hadees: 1]

Islam isn't deen of sheikh mufeed nor pakistani mullas. Quran is hujjat not writing of sheikh mufeed. read 70:33 and tell me why shouldn't i recite . read 5:55 and tell me when God has made something, why should i testify it infront of Allah where he want me to testify. what is meaning of tashahud? please tell me? i am no expert. but i want to learn. Tashahud according to google has meaning of wintesses or testomony. of what? testimony of kalima / faith. just tell me why shouldn't I? i present ayah of Quran not Zameer Akhters book or sheikh Mufeeds opinion.i respect everyone. Taqi Majlisi and Baqir Majlisi are alims and well know as well.

Waleed Tariq give me a single authentic in which imam has prhibited Ali un wali ullah in namaz.. Give me a single authentic hadith in which imam has warned shias about people who will give third testimony later in namaz or other acts of worship. where has it been prohibited. you guys do taqleed so please respect ulima like sadiq shirazi who gave permission to recite 3rd shahadah. so according to bahir najafi, Syed Sadiq Shirazi is false as well??? You guys shouyld repect ulima of your own sect.

yes i cannot offer 4 rakat instead of 3 rakat magrib. very satisfying answer. now can i offer 2 rakat instead of 3 rakat magrib ?? Yes i cannot do more than 1 ruku and 2 sajdas in namaz. satisfying answer. but can i do 1 sajdah and 0 ruku in namaz??\ Yes i cannot call hazrat Abbas an Imam, satisfying answer. But i can call Khomenin an imam? Or can i believe in 11 imamas only?? If things cannot be added, they can't either be subracted as well. bashir najafi has ilm e gaib and knows that we want to teach Allah and Rasool S.A.W about namaz. Curse be upon the liars.

إِذَا جَاءَكَ الْمُنَافِقُونَ قَالُوا نَشْهَدُ إِنَّكَ لَرَسُولُ اللَّهِ ۗ وَاللَّهُ يَعْلَمُ إِنَّكَ لَرَسُولُهُ وَاللَّهُ يَشْهَدُ إِنَّ الْمُنَافِقِينَ لَكَاذِبُونَ {1}  [Pickthal 63:1] When the hypocrites come unto thee (O Muhammad), they say: We bear witness that thou art indeed Allah's messenger. And Allah knoweth that thou art indeed His messenger, and Allah beareth witness that the hypocrites indeed are speaking falsely. It has nothing to do with question i asked. its just like hypocrites saying one thing but Allah says that he knows that they are different from inside and are liars. Rather i see without 3rd testimony, they are munafiqs and hypocrites. Plus i told you guys to keep mujtahidism aside. Next i have seen that Bashir najafis video and he has mentioned. i think he is saying this about 3rd testimony in Fiqh al Raza in which there is no ALi un wali ullah in azaan as well. Fiqh al Raza isn't the only book, Misbah ul mutahajjid Sheikh Tusi has also written ali un wali ullah in tashahud in namaz e zuhurs 4th rakat. Plus hadith arent primary sources. Quran ends with at least 3 wiliayats, who deny them is batil himself. i havent quoted any hadith nor i am an expert, but i do see quran and as per 70:33, we have clear guidance from Allah. Admin isn't approving my comments whats the problem? everyone else can comment i cannot!

If i say salawat and mention names indirectly, then why 2nd testimony of Muhammad S.A.W should be given in tashahud definately in salawat the first name you say is of Muhammad S.A.W then is namaz okay without 2nd testimony? Three main testimonies (you and i know) are of Allah The Almighty, Risalat o nabuwat and Wilayat. These do cover everything. These have been proved from Quran. We shias do prove them using ayahs like 70:33 or 5:55. Each is as important as the other when. And plus where did God reserve tashahud for himself? Tashahud doesnt mean shahdatein.

Islam is NOT an incomplete piece of research on which different scholors (doctors) should differ. This is a false comparision. I am ordered to ask the ones who have more knowledge than me , not to follow them. Its responsibilty of an alim to guide as per Quran and hadith. Not according to his own interpretations. When our alims are wrong we disagree with them. We donot follow blindly what they say. Tell us hadith and rulings of masoomeen and thats their responsibility. And thats why he is respected. Concept of Ph.d in all aspects isnt proved from hadith. Islam is religion for everyone not only for Mujtahids or Alims. Gods religion is man friendly and everyone can understand if he or she wants to. (Exclude bhugz). Moreover translations are avaliable so language isn't a big barrier. Language doesnt describe your skill or mentality. We live in era of Muhammad Al Mahdi A.S. brothers question when imam went into occultation what system he gave to us? Question is false. We believe in system of imamate proven from quran and no other system would ever succeed imamate till qayamat. Instead they should ask (which they cannot) which person imam left in charge before major occultation? There is no successor of Imam al Mahdi A.S. The interpretations from Our Imams and Book of Allah Quran is hujjat on us. This is what i think. Its my opinion. I should follow siraat e mustaqeem and 6th Imam Jaffer e Sadiq A.S says in tafseer noor us saqalain , By God, we are siraat e mustaqeem. Seeking knowledge (at least basics) is mandatory.

If i say Muhammad S.A.W 100 times instead of al fatihah salah wouldn't be valid? go other way round. say everything and just skip one muhammad ar rasool ullah once. would your salah b valid?

Plus i have another Question. Is hadith of 18 sentences in azaan sahih sanad wise? and another hadith : قال امام صادق علیه السلام : اذا قال احدكم لا اله الا الله محمد رسول الله فلیقل علی امیر المومنین ولی الله. Imam Jafar Sadiq (as) says: “When any one from you says ‘La ilaha illa Allah, Muhammadan Rasool Allah” then he must say ‘Alian Wali Allah’. [Ref: Al-Ehtejaaj Vol: 1 Pg: 230 / Bihar Al Anwar Vol: 27 Hadees: 1] sanad wise have early scholors considered above hadith has okay? قال صادق علیه السلام : الاذان و الاقامة مثنی مثنی الاذان عشرون حرفا و الاقامة اثنان عشرون حرفا Imam Jafar e Sadiq (as) said: “The Recitations in Azaan and Iqamat are double. The recitations in Azaan are 20 and in Iqamat are 22” [Al Hidaya (Sheikh Sadooq) Pg: 30, Bihar Al Anwar Vol: 84 Pg: 111, Mustadrak ul Wasail Vol: 1 Pg: 253] has above hadith of 20 parts in azaan considered as authentic by any Scholors? please let me know and say whats truth!

My salah wouldn't be valid if i add, but it wouldnt be valid if i subtract. thats one sided point of view. hypocrisy is that i am not testifying my faith as it is in front of Allah almighty. I dont really know arabic, but if kalima isn't valid without ali un wali ullah, and kalima is where i testify my faith my emaan, then please tell me meaning of tashahud and then tell me how one isn't a hypocrite who want to tease other by saying ali un walih ullah but infront of Allah alimghty, he refuses to say so. we use google dictionaries a lot going from english to urdu or arabic and vice versa. Tashahud means witnesses or to testify.what? definately your faith and you say its part of kalima as per ruling of 5:55? why not tashahud? what is meaning of tashahud? plus one of you said you can say in sajda ( I heard Ayatullah Aqeel ul gharvi). Any refrences for that? which imam said it in sajda? As per ayah 70:33 to 70:35 وَالَّذينَ هُم بِشَهاداتِهِم قائِمونَ وَالَّذينَ هُم عَلىٰ صَلاتِهِم يُحافِظونَ أُولٰئِكَ في جَنّاتٍ مُكرَمونَ why shouldn't i say ali un wali ullah when Allah sets criteria of شهادات and not شهادتين. Keep your mujtahidism aside. Give me satisfying answer and guide me towards right path.