Syed Ali Mehdi Shah Naqvi

Ref: Musnad Imam Ali Raza (عليه السلام) from Zaidi portal. again accepting that authority of AhleBait (عليه السلام) is compulsory and only one who accepts it will be in paradise and one who either denies or wrongs them will be in hell fire. Bhai how come fallible person reach this level? Does it make sense to you? Whoever denies Ahlebait (عليه السلام) will burn in hell and that only valid in case of Ahlebait being Masoom. Yes you could say Ahlebait are five and they are Masoom. But Above hadith i quoted also proves IMAMS of ahlebait must be masoom. Which denies aqeedah of zaidi

Ref: Musnad Imam Ali Raza (عليه السلام) from Zaidi Portal. See what Imam (عليه السلام) says. He (عليه السلام) says woe onto him who opposes imams of AhleBait (عليه السلام). How come opposing a fallible imam be cursed? This narrations proves that opposing Imams of Ahlebait (عليه السلام) is haram and this can only be true if imams are Masoom contrary to Zaidi Aqeedah

Zaydi don't have any hadith that refers to appointment of any imam other than first three which are believed to be Masoom and choosen representatives of Allah i:e Imam Ali (عليه السلام) , Imam Hassan (عليه السلام) and Imam Hussein (عليه السلام). After that, they have fallible people from family who claimed imamate. So first they'll need to prove their aqeedah of Imamah. Its same as discussing issue of Imamah with AhleSunnah. One of zaydis here demanded mutawatir proof for each an every imam. And that doesn't make any sense because zaydis dont even have mutawatir chains for the Book o

From Irshad Al Quloob: Books Author is الشيخ الحسن بن أبي الحسن محمد الديلمي And he mentions no chain or sources upto Harun Bin Saed who is a companion of Imam Ali (عليه السلام). Therefore this narration has no significance. And i think all other narrations are just like that.

Ok but what makes them authentic brother?

heard of tons of Ghost stories. Some are Daif, some are Mawdoo and some might be Sahih

Also great majority is Twelver Shias. Ask me how? (Warning: Takfeer incoming)

Then why not Trust them when they declare their books authentic? Bhai point is whats the proof for that? How has it been established that X or Y narrator is Fasid Al-Mazhab? None. The words you posted look so fancy don't they? But in reality you are keeping yourself in a delusion. Best way is to bring some narrator here, and discuss about him. Then you'll know what you wrote sadly has no basis. Acha. Science does refine itself. True. Lemme give you an example. Earth has existed for many years right. Some scientist had theories 1000s of years ago out of

Third: Imam Sadiq (عليه السلام) said: "Call of Tathweeb in Azaan is from Sunnah." Majlisi said: Mawthaq

First: عَلِيُّ بْنُ إِبْرَاهِيمَ عَنْ أَبِيهِ عَنِ ابْنِ أَبِي عُمَيْرٍ عَنْ هِشَامِ بْنِ سَالِمٍ وَحَمَّادٍ عَنْ زُرَارَةَ عَنْ أَبِي عَبْدِ اللهِ (عَلَيْهِ السَّلام) فِي تَزْوِيجِ أُمِّ كُلْثُومٍ فَقَالَ إِنَّ ذَلِكَ فَرْجٌ غُصِبْنَاهُ. 1. Ali ibn Ibrahim has narrated from his father from ibn abu ‘Umayr from Hisham ibn Salim and Hammad from Zurarah who has said the following: “Abu ‘Abd Allah, ‘Alayhi al-Salam, about the marriage of ‘Umm Kulthum has said, ‘It was a rape we suffered.”’ Al-Kafi V5 Chapter of Marriage of Umme Kulthum Chain: Ali Bin Ibrahim -> Ibrahim Bin

Sahih: Narration of Masada Bin Sadqah that states Imam Ali (عليه السلام) thought of Muawiyah as a brother. It has a Saheeh Chain. Narration of Marriage of Umme Kulthum Bint Ali (عليه السلام) with Umar. It has a Saheeh Chain. Narration that says As-Salat-o-khairum-minan-nawm is Azaan is Sunnah. It has a Mawthaq Chain (goes against established Sunnah) Weak: All narrations on Birth of 12th Imam (عليه السلام) are weak. These hadiths were transmitted to us by Imamiyah scholars who compiled several books of people before them into their own books. Hadiths were w

Non of these sources are Primary sources of Hadeeth though

Yes. That's true. We need Aima's Hadeeths to know Quran but i may question if this doesn't make sense, why would Imam order to do so in first place? It definitely makes sense because a hadeeth CAN contradict Quran and Sunnah. Interpretations from Aima (عليه السلام) are no doubt, needed to understand the true meaning of verses but hadeeths shouldn't just go 180 degree against Quran. Like Imam Ali (عليه السلام) is known to have said: I am Ma'bood (Ref: Mashariq Al-Anwaar). Now this is a clear contradiction and there is no room for interpretation. Therefore, we can always spot narr

You have made a good point there. I am not saying that completely reject all chains and all ilm-ur-rijal or throw it away. I just wanted to say, the way we use it today is not correct and it makes no sense to use it this way. Also criteria for accepting / Rejecting hadeeths have been given to us by Aima (عليه السلام) and it should be given higher priority than authenticity of Isnad themselves. Like Matching it with Quran / Sunnah and whatever agrees with it is Authentic full stop. Whatever contradicts Quran / Sunnah should be thrown away full stop. And Imam (عليه

Its not me only though. Brother should know that Akhbari scholars like Hur Amili also spoke against using Ilm Al Rijal like this.