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    MartyS got a reaction from funklebits in Is Christ God?   
    These are very good questions.
    Concerning Adam. We believe Adam, who was the first man from Earth, was created from the dust of the Earth.
    "then the LORD God formed the man of dust from the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living creature." - Genesis 2:7
    The Prophet Isaiah (speaking for God) refered to Adam this way...
    "Your first father sinned, and your mediators transgressed against me."  - Isaiah 43:27
    We believe Jesus was the first man from heaven, created by the breath of God and born of a virgin. Thus, He was fully God and fully man. God, without changing His nature as Eternal Heavenly Father and Creator, became a man in human flesh so He could show men the way to being reconciled to Himself through Himself/Jesus. That way is through repentance of our sinful flesh and forgiveness. Jesus paid the price to blot out our sins through His sinless life and death.
    Isaiah (speaking for God) said...
    "I, I am he who blots out your transgressions for my own sake, and I will not remember your sins."  - Isaiah 43:25
    Concerning resurrection of believers from the dead...
    35 But someone will ask, "How are the dead raised? With what kind of body do they come?"
    36 You foolish person! What you sow does not come to life unless it dies.
    37 And what you sow is not the body that is to be, but a bare kernel, perhaps of wheat or of some other grain.
    38 But God gives it a body as he has chosen, and to each kind of seed its own body.
    39 For not all flesh is the same, but there is one kind for humans, another for animals, another for birds, and another for fish.
    40 There are heavenly bodies and earthly bodies, but the glory of the heavenly is of one kind, and the glory of the earthly is of another.
    41 There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars; for star differs from star in glory.
    42 So is it with the resurrection of the dead. What is sown is perishable; what is raised is imperishable.
    43 It is sown in dishonor; it is raised in glory. It is sown in weakness; it is raised in power.
    44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body.
    45 Thus it is written, "The first man Adam became a living being"; the last Adam became a life-giving spirit.
    46 But it is not the spiritual that is first but the natural, and then the spiritual.
    47 The first man was from the Earth, a man of dust; the second man is from heaven. - 1 Corinthians 15:35-47
  2. Disagree
    MartyS got a reaction from funklebits in Is Christ God?   
    We Christians accept Jesus Christ's claims to be the Son of God and the Son of Man from the perspective of His diety. Having always been God, 2019 years ago,  the One True Creator God created of Himself a man born of the seed of a virgin girl who was "overshadowed" by the Spirit of God (the first Christmas--when our time began). In the greatest event of God's creation, God became a perfect sinless man whose death would pay the price for the sins of all mankind who put their trust in Him. And His resurrection from the dead would prove He was God. From Jesus' perspective, He equated a man's attitude to Himself with the man's attitude to God. Thus, to know Him was to know God. To see Him was to see God. To believe in Him was to believe in God. To receive Him was to receive God. To hate Him was to hate God. And to honor Him was to honor God.
    They said to him therefore, "Where is your Father?" Jesus answered, "You know neither me nor my Father. If you knew me, you would know my Father also." - John 8:19
    7 If you had known me, you would have known my Father also. From now on you do know him and have seen him."
    8 Philip said to him, "Lord, show us the Father, and it is enough for us."
    9 Jesus said to him, "Have I been with you so long, and you still do not know me, Philip? Whoever has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'? - John 14:7-9
    44 And Jesus cried out and said, "Whoever believes in me, believes not in me but in him who sent me.
    45 And whoever sees me sees him who sent me. - John 12:44-45
    "Let not your hearts be troubled. Believe in God; believe also in me. - John 14:1
    "Whoever receives one such child in my name receives me, and whoever receives me, receives not me but him who sent me." - Mark 9:37
    Whoever hates me hates my Father also. - John 15:23
    Jesus answered him, "If anyone loves me, he will keep my word, and my Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him. - John 14:23
  3. Disagree
    MartyS got a reaction from funklebits in Is Christ God?   
    I agree, Jesus became man like us so that He could taste death for us. And God is our Father, too. But Jesus distinguished Himself from mortal sons of God by forgiving sins.
    18 And behold, some men were bringing on a bed a man who was paralyzed, and they were seeking to bring him in and lay him before Jesus,
    19 but finding no way to bring him in, because of the crowd, they went up on the roof and let him down with his bed through the tiles into the midst before Jesus.
    20 And when he saw their faith, he said, "Man, your sins are forgiven you."
    21 And the scribes and the Pharisees began to question, saying, "Who is this who speaks blasphemies? Who can forgive sins but God alone?"
    22 When Jesus perceived their thoughts, he answered them, "Why do you question in your hearts?
    23 Which is easier, to say, 'Your sins are forgiven you,' or to say, 'Rise and walk'?
    24 But that you may know that the Son of Man has authority on Earth to forgive sins"-he said to the man who was paralyzed-"I say to you, rise, pick up your bed and go home."
    25 And immediately he rose up before them and picked up what he had been lying on and went home, glorifying God. - Luke 5:18-25
  4. Disagree
    MartyS got a reaction from Northwest in Is Christ God?   
    We Christians accept Jesus Christ's claims to be the Son of God and the Son of Man from the perspective of His diety. Having always been God, 2019 years ago,  the One True Creator God created of Himself a man born of the seed of a virgin girl who was "overshadowed" by the Spirit of God (the first Christmas--when our time began). In the greatest event of God's creation, God became a perfect sinless man whose death would pay the price for the sins of all mankind who put their trust in Him. And His resurrection from the dead would prove He was God. From Jesus' perspective, He equated a man's attitude to Himself with the man's attitude to God. Thus, to know Him was to know God. To see Him was to see God. To believe in Him was to believe in God. To receive Him was to receive God. To hate Him was to hate God. And to honor Him was to honor God.
    They said to him therefore, "Where is your Father?" Jesus answered, "You know neither me nor my Father. If you knew me, you would know my Father also." - John 8:19
    7 If you had known me, you would have known my Father also. From now on you do know him and have seen him."
    8 Philip said to him, "Lord, show us the Father, and it is enough for us."
    9 Jesus said to him, "Have I been with you so long, and you still do not know me, Philip? Whoever has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'? - John 14:7-9
    44 And Jesus cried out and said, "Whoever believes in me, believes not in me but in him who sent me.
    45 And whoever sees me sees him who sent me. - John 12:44-45
    "Let not your hearts be troubled. Believe in God; believe also in me. - John 14:1
    "Whoever receives one such child in my name receives me, and whoever receives me, receives not me but him who sent me." - Mark 9:37
    Whoever hates me hates my Father also. - John 15:23
    Jesus answered him, "If anyone loves me, he will keep my word, and my Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him. - John 14:23
  5. Disagree
    MartyS got a reaction from Northwest in Is Christ God?   
    These are very good questions.
    Concerning Adam. We believe Adam, who was the first man from Earth, was created from the dust of the Earth.
    "then the LORD God formed the man of dust from the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living creature." - Genesis 2:7
    The Prophet Isaiah (speaking for God) refered to Adam this way...
    "Your first father sinned, and your mediators transgressed against me."  - Isaiah 43:27
    We believe Jesus was the first man from heaven, created by the breath of God and born of a virgin. Thus, He was fully God and fully man. God, without changing His nature as Eternal Heavenly Father and Creator, became a man in human flesh so He could show men the way to being reconciled to Himself through Himself/Jesus. That way is through repentance of our sinful flesh and forgiveness. Jesus paid the price to blot out our sins through His sinless life and death.
    Isaiah (speaking for God) said...
    "I, I am he who blots out your transgressions for my own sake, and I will not remember your sins."  - Isaiah 43:25
    Concerning resurrection of believers from the dead...
    35 But someone will ask, "How are the dead raised? With what kind of body do they come?"
    36 You foolish person! What you sow does not come to life unless it dies.
    37 And what you sow is not the body that is to be, but a bare kernel, perhaps of wheat or of some other grain.
    38 But God gives it a body as he has chosen, and to each kind of seed its own body.
    39 For not all flesh is the same, but there is one kind for humans, another for animals, another for birds, and another for fish.
    40 There are heavenly bodies and earthly bodies, but the glory of the heavenly is of one kind, and the glory of the earthly is of another.
    41 There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars; for star differs from star in glory.
    42 So is it with the resurrection of the dead. What is sown is perishable; what is raised is imperishable.
    43 It is sown in dishonor; it is raised in glory. It is sown in weakness; it is raised in power.
    44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body.
    45 Thus it is written, "The first man Adam became a living being"; the last Adam became a life-giving spirit.
    46 But it is not the spiritual that is first but the natural, and then the spiritual.
    47 The first man was from the Earth, a man of dust; the second man is from heaven. - 1 Corinthians 15:35-47
  6. Disagree
    MartyS got a reaction from Ashvazdanghe in Is Christ God?   
    We Christians accept Jesus Christ's claims to be the Son of God and the Son of Man from the perspective of His diety. Having always been God, 2019 years ago,  the One True Creator God created of Himself a man born of the seed of a virgin girl who was "overshadowed" by the Spirit of God (the first Christmas--when our time began). In the greatest event of God's creation, God became a perfect sinless man whose death would pay the price for the sins of all mankind who put their trust in Him. And His resurrection from the dead would prove He was God. From Jesus' perspective, He equated a man's attitude to Himself with the man's attitude to God. Thus, to know Him was to know God. To see Him was to see God. To believe in Him was to believe in God. To receive Him was to receive God. To hate Him was to hate God. And to honor Him was to honor God.
    They said to him therefore, "Where is your Father?" Jesus answered, "You know neither me nor my Father. If you knew me, you would know my Father also." - John 8:19
    7 If you had known me, you would have known my Father also. From now on you do know him and have seen him."
    8 Philip said to him, "Lord, show us the Father, and it is enough for us."
    9 Jesus said to him, "Have I been with you so long, and you still do not know me, Philip? Whoever has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'? - John 14:7-9
    44 And Jesus cried out and said, "Whoever believes in me, believes not in me but in him who sent me.
    45 And whoever sees me sees him who sent me. - John 12:44-45
    "Let not your hearts be troubled. Believe in God; believe also in me. - John 14:1
    "Whoever receives one such child in my name receives me, and whoever receives me, receives not me but him who sent me." - Mark 9:37
    Whoever hates me hates my Father also. - John 15:23
    Jesus answered him, "If anyone loves me, he will keep my word, and my Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him. - John 14:23
  7. Disagree
    MartyS got a reaction from Kaya in Is Christ God?   
    We Christians accept Jesus Christ's claims to be the Son of God and the Son of Man from the perspective of His diety. Having always been God, 2019 years ago,  the One True Creator God created of Himself a man born of the seed of a virgin girl who was "overshadowed" by the Spirit of God (the first Christmas--when our time began). In the greatest event of God's creation, God became a perfect sinless man whose death would pay the price for the sins of all mankind who put their trust in Him. And His resurrection from the dead would prove He was God. From Jesus' perspective, He equated a man's attitude to Himself with the man's attitude to God. Thus, to know Him was to know God. To see Him was to see God. To believe in Him was to believe in God. To receive Him was to receive God. To hate Him was to hate God. And to honor Him was to honor God.
    They said to him therefore, "Where is your Father?" Jesus answered, "You know neither me nor my Father. If you knew me, you would know my Father also." - John 8:19
    7 If you had known me, you would have known my Father also. From now on you do know him and have seen him."
    8 Philip said to him, "Lord, show us the Father, and it is enough for us."
    9 Jesus said to him, "Have I been with you so long, and you still do not know me, Philip? Whoever has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'? - John 14:7-9
    44 And Jesus cried out and said, "Whoever believes in me, believes not in me but in him who sent me.
    45 And whoever sees me sees him who sent me. - John 12:44-45
    "Let not your hearts be troubled. Believe in God; believe also in me. - John 14:1
    "Whoever receives one such child in my name receives me, and whoever receives me, receives not me but him who sent me." - Mark 9:37
    Whoever hates me hates my Father also. - John 15:23
    Jesus answered him, "If anyone loves me, he will keep my word, and my Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him. - John 14:23
  8. Disagree
    MartyS got a reaction from al-Muttaqin in Spiritual Highs   
    Repentant Servant,
    Your post reminded me of a book I read several years ago that gave me a glimpse into how God is speaking to Muslims in the world today and the special way He is revealing Himself to many. I thought you might find it fascinating and understand it better than I could. It is:
    Dreams and Visions: Is Jesus Awakening the Muslim World? by Tom Doyle, publisher Thomas Nelson
    Many blessings, beloved by God!
  9. Completely Agree
    MartyS reacted to ShiaMahamed in The Theory Of Evolution   
    Questions such as:
    What is the point of theory of Evolution?
    Are neglected and are not encouraged.
    For the answer proves that it is pointless.
    Academic Scholars and Scientist are in agreement that questions such as: What is the point of theory of evolution? Has only one answer, "it has no purpose".
    People that indulge in the study and have complete belief in theory of evolution are not Creationist.
    Creationist and Evolutions are not the same.
    Theory of Evolution is the most useless, irrelevant discussion. 
  10. Disagree
    MartyS got a reaction from hasanhh in Do you ever feel ashamed when asking God for help   
    Yes, thanks, I do remember. Job seemed safe from any real troubles, UNTIL...
    1 There was a man in the land of Uz whose name was Job, and that man was blameless and upright, one who feared God and turned away from evil.
    2 There were born to him seven sons and three daughters.
    3 He possessed 7,000 sheep, 3,000 camels, 500 yoke of oxen, and 500 female donkeys, and very many servants, so that this man was the greatest of all the people of the east.
    4 His sons used to go and hold a feast in the house of each one on his day, and they would send and invite their three sisters to eat and drink with them.
    5 And when the days of the feast had run their course, Job would send and consecrate them, and he would rise early in the morning and offer burnt offerings according to the number of them all. For Job said, "It may be that my children have sinned, and cursed God in their hearts." Thus Job did continually.
    6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came among them.
    7 The LORD said to Satan, "From where have you come?" Satan answered the LORD and said, "From going to and fro on the Earth, and from walking up and down on it."
    8 And the LORD said to Satan, "Have you considered my servant Job, that there is none like him on the Earth, a blameless and upright man, who fears God and turns away from evil?"
    9 Then Satan answered the LORD and said, "Does Job fear God for no reason?
    10 Have you not put a hedge around him and his house and all that he has, on every side? You have blessed the work of his hands, and his possessions have increased in the land.
    11 But stretch out your hand and touch all that he has, and he will curse you to your face."
    12 And the LORD said to Satan, "Behold, all that he has is in your hand. Only against him do not stretch out your hand." So Satan went out from the presence of the LORD.
    13 Now there was a day when his sons and daughters were eating and drinking wine in their oldest brother's house,
    14 and there came a messenger to Job and said, "The oxen were plowing and the donkeys feeding beside them,
    15 and the Sabeans fell upon them and took them and struck down the servants with the edge of the sword, and I alone have escaped to tell you."
    16 While he was yet speaking, there came another and said, "The fire of God fell from heaven and burned up the sheep and the servants and consumed them, and I alone have escaped to tell you."
    17 While he was yet speaking, there came another and said, "The Chaldeans formed three groups and made a raid on the camels and took them and struck down the servants with the edge of the sword, and I alone have escaped to tell you."
    18 While he was yet speaking, there came another and said, "Your sons and daughters were eating and drinking wine in their oldest brother's house,
    19 and behold, a great wind came across the wilderness and struck the four corners of the house, and it fell upon the young people, and they are dead, and I alone have escaped to tell you."
    20 Then Job arose and tore his robe and shaved his head and fell on the ground and worshiped.
    21 And he said, "Naked I came from my mother's womb, and naked shall I return. The LORD gave, and the LORD has taken away; blessed be the name of the LORD."
    22 In all this Job did not sin or charge God with wrong. - Job 1
    ...but 41 chapters later, after Satan got permission from God to even destroy Job's health, he repented to God for his arrogance and pride, THEN...
    12 And the LORD blessed the latter days of Job more than his beginning. And he had 14,000 sheep, 6,000 camels, 1,000 yoke of oxen, and 1,000 female donkeys.
    13 He had also seven sons and three daughters.
    14 And he called the name of the first daughter Jemimah, and the name of the second Keziah, and the name of the third Keren-happuch.
    15 And in all the land there were no women so beautiful as Job's daughters. And their father gave them an inheritance among their brothers.
    16 And after this Job lived 140 years, and saw his sons, and his sons' sons, four generations.
    17 And Job died, an old man, and full of days. - Job 42:12-17
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    MartyS got a reaction from iCenozoic in Founder of christanity?   
    That's a GREAT question! Only in the person of Jesus, there is no difference. Jesus was fully God, incarnate by the Holy Spirit of God, and through the womb of Mary, a virgin, Jesus was given human birth, fully Man, the only one without sin. This qualified Jesus to identify with men and, because He was without sin, to give his life up to death as payment in full for the sins of those who would believe and be raised from the dead, literally the first-born from the dead, to show that we will live with Him after death, also.
    26 In the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God to a city of Galilee named Nazareth,
    27 to a virgin betrothed to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David. And the virgin's name was Mary.
    28 And he came to her and said, "Greetings, O favored one, the Lord is with you!"
    29 But she was greatly troubled at the saying, and tried to discern what sort of greeting this might be.
    30 And the angel said to her, "Do not be afraid, Mary, for you have found favor with God.
    31 And behold, you will conceive in your womb and bear a son, and you shall call his name Jesus.
    32 He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. And the Lord God will give to him the throne of his father David,
    33 and he will reign over the house of Jacob forever, and of his kingdom there will be no end."
    34 And Mary said to the angel, "How will this be, since I am a virgin?"
    35 And the angel answered her, "The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you; therefore the child to be born will be called holy-the Son of God. - Luke 1:26-35
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    MartyS got a reaction from hasanhh in Founder of christanity?   
    That's a GREAT question! Only in the person of Jesus, there is no difference. Jesus was fully God, incarnate by the Holy Spirit of God, and through the womb of Mary, a virgin, Jesus was given human birth, fully Man, the only one without sin. This qualified Jesus to identify with men and, because He was without sin, to give his life up to death as payment in full for the sins of those who would believe and be raised from the dead, literally the first-born from the dead, to show that we will live with Him after death, also.
    26 In the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God to a city of Galilee named Nazareth,
    27 to a virgin betrothed to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David. And the virgin's name was Mary.
    28 And he came to her and said, "Greetings, O favored one, the Lord is with you!"
    29 But she was greatly troubled at the saying, and tried to discern what sort of greeting this might be.
    30 And the angel said to her, "Do not be afraid, Mary, for you have found favor with God.
    31 And behold, you will conceive in your womb and bear a son, and you shall call his name Jesus.
    32 He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. And the Lord God will give to him the throne of his father David,
    33 and he will reign over the house of Jacob forever, and of his kingdom there will be no end."
    34 And Mary said to the angel, "How will this be, since I am a virgin?"
    35 And the angel answered her, "The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you; therefore the child to be born will be called holy-the Son of God. - Luke 1:26-35
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    MartyS got a reaction from shadow_of_light in Do non-Muslim intellectuals go to hell?   
    When Jesus came, He was sent to deal with sin of all mankind. We don't have to understand all the mysteries of God. All that we have to do is put our faith in the One God sent. He does, He did, everything else to satisfy God's requirement for the redemption of mankind. I believe His perfect sacrifice completely satisfied the wrath of God against all unrighteousness. And once I believed, He sent His Spirit to live inside of me, give me understanding of His Word, made manifest in His Son, the ultimate revelation of Himself.
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    MartyS reacted to Khudi in My mother is suicidal   
    Hello @Miss Wonderful,
    Hope you're well. Very sorry to hear about your situation. I can't imagine how difficult it must be for you to see your mother in that manner and feel helpless when you try and help her.
    However, I would like to let you know that the mere thought that you have of wanting to serve your mother during her illness is a blessing in itself. Not all children are so considerate towards their parents in such situations, so hats off to you for that.
    Remember, when your mother gets angry at you, it's not actually her that says all those insulting things to you, it's a different person. A person who is experiencing pain (both, physical and emotional), she tries to find ways to vent out her pain. Because you love her so much, you will be one of the ways in which she can express her anger and distress to ease her pain (both physical and emotional).
    Give yourself credit for trying to help your mother, stay with her whenever you can, hold her hand and listen to her, regardless of what she says. When it gets overwhelming for you, politely let her know that you need to be alone for a bit and then take your time to cool yourself down. She is your mother, she will always understand you, sometimes better than you understand yourself.
    You will always cherish these moments, when you tried to help your mother at her worse, so don't lose these precious moments. I wish you best.
    Kind regards,
    Khudi
  15. Completely Agree
    MartyS reacted to Leslie P in Founder of christanity?   
    About the Original Post-
    The three authors are popular writers who have made no impact on professional scholarship. Their work is generally seen as highly imaginative, poorly thought out and irrelevant to the quest for the Jesus of history.
    What Jesus was trying, successfully, to do was to start off the Kingdom of God with himself at the head of it.
    The historical records we have tell us this unambiguously. Whether it's in the telling of parables, the speeches of Jesus, the writings of those who came after him or whatever else, Jesus intention is clear. Carrying out God's promises to sort things out.
    Not only is Christianity thoroughly Jewish, but could not exist without it's Jewish roots. This is where the writers in the OP got it very wrong. You can't go very far in the New Testament before you hit an Old Testament reference and the whole setup of Christianity needs its Jewish basis.
  16. Completely Agree
    MartyS got a reaction from eThErEaL in Proof of God's existence   
    Thanks for opening this very interesting discussion to other religions. Here are some verses I was studying today.
    I HAVE DIED TO THE LAW
    Likewise, my brothers, you also have died to the law through the body of Christ, so that you may belong to another, to him who has been raised from the dead, in order that we may bear fruit for God. - Romans 7:4
    I have died to the Law through Jesus' dead body, so that I may belong to Jesus, raised from the dead, and bear fruit for God.
    17 But thanks be to God, that you who were once slaves of sin have become obedient from the heart to the standard of teaching to which you were committed,
    18 and, having been set free from sin, have become slaves of righteousness. - Romans 6:17-18
    I was once a slave to sin, but now I am a slave to righteousness!
  17. Completely Agree
    MartyS got a reaction from Khudi in My mother is suicidal   
    I think I understand your mom, Miss Wonderful. As a hospice nurse, caring for many people who were dying, I found that the best question I could ask them when they were distressed was, "Can you tell me what you are most afraid of?" She probably really wants to talk about what she's feeling right now. If it's the incontinence, there are adult pull-ups that work very well and bed pads that are washable or disposable. Try to help her protect her dignity and let her know it doesn't bother you. Almost everyone who is dying goes through this. If what she's most afraid of is life after death, share your faith with her, even though she's the parent and you're the child. At the end of our lives, those roles reverse. Most important, don't push her away. She needs you now like you needed her when you were a newborn child. I hope this helps.
    P.S. I am dying now, too. I wish I had a daughter like you. God bless you.
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    MartyS got a reaction from Ashvazdanghe in Founder of christanity?   
    That's a GREAT question! Only in the person of Jesus, there is no difference. Jesus was fully God, incarnate by the Holy Spirit of God, and through the womb of Mary, a virgin, Jesus was given human birth, fully Man, the only one without sin. This qualified Jesus to identify with men and, because He was without sin, to give his life up to death as payment in full for the sins of those who would believe and be raised from the dead, literally the first-born from the dead, to show that we will live with Him after death, also.
    26 In the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God to a city of Galilee named Nazareth,
    27 to a virgin betrothed to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David. And the virgin's name was Mary.
    28 And he came to her and said, "Greetings, O favored one, the Lord is with you!"
    29 But she was greatly troubled at the saying, and tried to discern what sort of greeting this might be.
    30 And the angel said to her, "Do not be afraid, Mary, for you have found favor with God.
    31 And behold, you will conceive in your womb and bear a son, and you shall call his name Jesus.
    32 He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. And the Lord God will give to him the throne of his father David,
    33 and he will reign over the house of Jacob forever, and of his kingdom there will be no end."
    34 And Mary said to the angel, "How will this be, since I am a virgin?"
    35 And the angel answered her, "The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you; therefore the child to be born will be called holy-the Son of God. - Luke 1:26-35
  19. Disagree
    MartyS got a reaction from Ashvazdanghe in Proof of God's existence   
    Thanks for opening this very interesting discussion to other religions. Here are some verses I was studying today.
    I HAVE DIED TO THE LAW
    Likewise, my brothers, you also have died to the law through the body of Christ, so that you may belong to another, to him who has been raised from the dead, in order that we may bear fruit for God. - Romans 7:4
    I have died to the Law through Jesus' dead body, so that I may belong to Jesus, raised from the dead, and bear fruit for God.
    17 But thanks be to God, that you who were once slaves of sin have become obedient from the heart to the standard of teaching to which you were committed,
    18 and, having been set free from sin, have become slaves of righteousness. - Romans 6:17-18
    I was once a slave to sin, but now I am a slave to righteousness!
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    MartyS reacted to alih13 in No longer a Muslim, how to proceed   
    salaam... im a married man for about 10 years with 2 kids that are below the age of 7... I'm 36 years old. I was a devout a Muslim for much of my life, however in the past 10 years I really began looking for the truth. sadly it's resulted in me longer believing in Allah, a God etc... this post is not about my theological problems. I never wanted to be a disbeliever, but that really is the state of affairs at the moment.
    I havent told anyone about this. I am not too happy in my marriage as I want to do different things but feel like I have to continue pretending to be a Muslim because my wife may leave me, it would hurt my parents etc
    on the other hand I'm really unhappy and feel like im being dishonest, and maybe my kids deserve a better father than me... (but they may never get another father)... but I would be hurting too many people if I came out and said im no longer a Muslim...
    any advice???
  21. Completely Agree
    MartyS reacted to thegoodman81 in Why did humanity have to wait 2000 years for the sacrifice of Christ?   
    Hi everybody, hope all is well. Interesting topic here!

    First, I mean no disrespect to Mr.. Cenozoic above me, but please be aware he is not speaking for all Christians. This man would be considered quite liberal by most Christians, Catholic or Protestant. So while I respect his right to hold such opinions, I do mostly disagree with him. 

    For example, I and most believers like me believe 100%  in Adam and Eve, the snake, the fruit, and all of it to the T. Because God is really, really interesting and he can order the world just the way he wants. He can intervene in miraculous ways, like allowing people to live 800+ years if he wishes, and building the human race out of two progenitors, and allowing a snake to speak. Many Christians believe this quite comfortably, because we believe in God's miraculous and creative essence. 

    As for the OP, the Bible actually explains that. Check out Galatians 4, verses 4-7. Paul explains: "... when the fullness of the time came, God sent forth His Son, born of a woman, born under the Law, 5 so that He might redeem those who were under the Law, that we might receive the adoption as sons. 6 Because you are sons, God has sent forth the Spirit of His Son into our hearts, crying, “Abba! Father!” 7 Therefore you are no longer a slave, but a son; and if a son, then an heir through God."
    "When the fullness of the time came." God himself is not bound by time, but we exist within it. So there was a certain point in the development of human affairs when the time was right for Jesus to be sent. This is not uncommon in the biblical narrative. There are many passages which refer to timing, such as when God foretells to Abraham that in a few hundred years his descendants would go to war against the Amorites but not yet, because "their sin had not reached its full measure." So he was holding off his judgement until a certain time. 
    But that kind of naturally brings up the question, Why wait? Why wait for them to fully express their sinfulness before bringing judgment, and why wait 2000+ after the resurrection for Jesus to return (I think that's what your OP was really talking about, right?)? There's an answer in the text for that too. Two answers, actually. There are two really important passages that you need to see to understand it. 
    FIRST - so people have ample time to turn from their sins and follow Jesus, coming to salvation. See 2 Peter 3:3-9, it's very powerful:
    Above all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires. 4 They will say, “Where is this ‘coming’ he promised? Ever since our ancestors died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation.” 5 But they deliberately forget that long ago by God’s word the heavens came into being and the Earth was formed out of water and by water. 6 By these waters also the world of that time was deluged and destroyed. 7 By the same word the present heavens and Earth are reserved for fire, being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of the ungodly.
    8 But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day. 9 The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.
    God is patient so that more people freely turn to him and repent of their sins. 
     
    SECOND - so that all cultures finally have the opportunity to hear the Gospel (the good news that Jesus Christ died on the cross, and that his sacrifice provides forgiveness for sins if we repent and put our faith in him). See, not everyone has had the chance to hear this good news yet! There are still entire languages in which the Bible is not available.
    Here's what Jesus said:
    Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. 10At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, 11and many false Prophets will appear and deceive many people. 12Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, 13but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved. 14And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.
    Praise God, the Bible is available in Farsi, Arabic, Dari, Hindi, French, English, etc. There are many languages yet to receive a Bible, but efforts are constantly underway. 
    According to Jesus, God is waiting until everybody has a fair chance to hear the good news about him in a language they understand well, and enough time to commit their life to Jesus. And he has no problem waiting as long as it takes, because to him time is not an issue. Praise God, he is working all things out. 

    iCenozoic, again, no offense to you. I just want to make sure people know that your position isn't the normative position among Christians. May God bless you and lead you to all truth. 
  22. Completely Agree
    MartyS reacted to thegoodman81 in What happened to the other warnings?   
    @hasanhh, close it if you want but the problem persists. I hope you take time to read this over...

    Your Qur'an makes it very clear that the scriptures of the Jews and Christians were indeed true revelations from God. This means they were God's words. According to your Qur'an, people aren't able to change God's words. I agree with that particular claim (though obviously I disagree with much of the Qur'an); you supplied a good line of evidence for this yourself above, when you said "...one story was added to the New Testament in the 9th Century in Germany and was not generally deleted until the second half of the 20th Century." This shows that people tried it, and it ultimately failed. Crucially, this was an insertion, not a deletion or a replacement. The true text was never lost in that process. By the way, if you could provide a link as some evidence of that I would enjoy reading it, as that is news to me.

    Remember too that your Qur'an clarifies not only that the words of God can't be changed, but also specifically that there are no people capable of changing them. I don't think your stance squares with this. Not if you think that there were people capable of losing or deleting scriptures of the past, which Allah tells us in the Qur'an are still valid (Q 10:94)

    I also have a quesiton along this line. If the scriptures of the past were truly corrupted by the time Muhammad lived, why didn't Allah say "the Qur'an came to correct the errors in the previous scripture," or "the Qur'an came to replace the previous scripture"? Instead it says only "to affirm what came before." I don't believe the Muslim has any reason to doubt the Bible, but plenty of reasons to doubt the Qur'an. 

    Sorry if there are errors, I'm typing fast because I want to post this before the thread is shut down. 
  23. Completely Agree
    MartyS got a reaction from thegoodman81 in No longer a Muslim, how to proceed   
    Our Christian Bible assures us that if we seek for God, He will reveal Himself to us. I am praying you will find what you are seeking.
    7 "Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you.
    8 For everyone who asks receives, and the one who seeks finds, and to the one who knocks it will be opened.
    9 Or which one of you, if his son asks him for bread, will give him a stone?
    10 Or if he asks for a fish, will give him a serpent?
    11 If you then, who are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven give good things to those who ask him! - Matthew 7:7-11
    35 Jesus said to them, "I am the bread of life; whoever comes to me shall not hunger, and whoever believes in me shall never thirst.
    36 But I said to you that you have seen me and yet do not believe.
    37 All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never cast out. - John 6:35-37
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    MartyS got a reaction from PureExistence1 in No longer a Muslim, how to proceed   
    Our Christian Bible assures us that if we seek for God, He will reveal Himself to us. I am praying you will find what you are seeking.
    7 "Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you.
    8 For everyone who asks receives, and the one who seeks finds, and to the one who knocks it will be opened.
    9 Or which one of you, if his son asks him for bread, will give him a stone?
    10 Or if he asks for a fish, will give him a serpent?
    11 If you then, who are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven give good things to those who ask him! - Matthew 7:7-11
    35 Jesus said to them, "I am the bread of life; whoever comes to me shall not hunger, and whoever believes in me shall never thirst.
    36 But I said to you that you have seen me and yet do not believe.
    37 All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never cast out. - John 6:35-37
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    MartyS got a reaction from 313_Waiter in No longer a Muslim, how to proceed   
    Our Christian Bible assures us that if we seek for God, He will reveal Himself to us. I am praying you will find what you are seeking.
    7 "Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you.
    8 For everyone who asks receives, and the one who seeks finds, and to the one who knocks it will be opened.
    9 Or which one of you, if his son asks him for bread, will give him a stone?
    10 Or if he asks for a fish, will give him a serpent?
    11 If you then, who are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven give good things to those who ask him! - Matthew 7:7-11
    35 Jesus said to them, "I am the bread of life; whoever comes to me shall not hunger, and whoever believes in me shall never thirst.
    36 But I said to you that you have seen me and yet do not believe.
    37 All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never cast out. - John 6:35-37
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