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Futuremedstudent

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    Futuremedstudent reacted to wmehar2 in Hijabi Muslim becomes first Miss England Finalist   
    I dont know if what i have is knowledge, but from I see...Corruption will be there , as it was before the prophet Muhammad, and will be there after.
    It's not the amount of corruption we are charged with controlling or lessening, it's how we respond to it. For Qur'an reminds many times that Allah told our prophet that he is a reminder, a warner, nothing more but a messenger.
    This is why men are just as much blamed for not lowering their gaze and guarding their parts, before the verse even addresses women.  I induce that a man's sin won't be lifted or lightened if it was the woman who came seducing or tempting him fat full blast of nudity. 
    Advise, warn, but not judge or condensed, or speak Ill of ( what we wouldn't say to them in front of their face).
    49:11
     O believers, let not any people scoff at another people who may be better than they; neither let women scoff at women who may be better than themselves. And find not fault with one another, neither revile one another by nicknames. An evil name is ungodliness after belief. And whoso repents not, those -- they are the evildoers.
    I referenced the verses that speak of the veil, quite frankly I didn't see contention with her outfit or makeup.  Chest covered,  hair covered mostly, makeup...well that just covers her face, doesn't really bring out the beauty she already has..... so..no. in my view I don't see a violation.  Not enough to invoke the reactions I'm seeing here...
    This... is another way to illustrate my point .
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    Futuremedstudent reacted to Carlzone in Hijabi Muslim becomes first Miss England Finalist   
    @wmehar2
    I'll stand against fasad every day of the week. 
    I don't care what selfdeceiving people think. I care about Allah SWTs truth. Deviant people's opinions have no value to me or islamically either for that matter. 
    If you are interested in knowing halal and haram in this matter I already told you to contact Sayyid Sistanis office. Obviously you are not interested in that. You seem more interested in justifying haram. I will never agree with you on that.
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    Futuremedstudent reacted to Carlzone in Hijabi Muslim becomes first Miss England Finalist   
    @Futuremedstudent
    I'm happy to see sisters who are striving for higher knowledge and who have all opportunities to do fasad in the West - still hold steadfastly to the hijab! 
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    Futuremedstudent got a reaction from Ashvazdanghe in Hijabi Muslim becomes first Miss England Finalist   
    The points you are making have no connection whatsoever to this "hijabi model". I completely know what showing concern is to people and of course assisting them towards the right path. I believe this is what everyone on SC is doing unless they are trolls. Since you brought up Quranic verses, 
    I can bring up Quranic verses in doing sins, no? I mean even in the Quran (I am of course summarizing) says somewhere I do not recall; eat and drink and say bismallah where the other sect of Islam assumed that to be everything is permissible except pork. Whereas one is supposed to eat halal for example. Interpreting Quranic verses is not my strength-- I leave that to those higher in knowledge.
    Do you seriously think she is forced to expose herself to harm. I believe, and this is truly assumption that she has decided through her own rationale to join the beauty pageant the mentality of " I hope she isn't exposing herself to harm. by wearing or doing what she is doing " or something along those lines." does not apply here since there is no reported harm in going to a beauty pageant, Being a police officer is a whole different matter since that is exposing yourself to legitimate danger.
    To summarize; I agree we all must respect every human being, show concern and take care of one another, and GUIDE people to the correct path. Sometimes its tough guiding people to the correct path since they will feel inferior- I get that- but truth is truth and nothing must cover up falsehood. 
    Why do we guide people to the correct path in the first place? Why not let Allah swt. guide people you may ask. I believe @Carlzone has answered this question previously and it has to do with  " 3aml bill ma3roof and nahi 3an al momkar, since one can't support people's sins."
    Then now you may ask well she isn't sinning? If that is the case it depends on who you are, other beliefs may say she is doing nothing wrong (not going to name beliefs, you get the point), but since Islam is a religion of prevention and guidance for all worldly and societal functions, we all know there are prescribed rules and guidelines people must follow should they call themselves Muslim in the first place.
    Now you may ask she is trying to become Muslim. Good for her. That is not a great start.
    End of story hopefully that cleared up all your concerns as well.
     
     
     
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    Futuremedstudent reacted to Ashvazdanghe in Hijabi Muslim becomes first Miss England Finalist   
    if we approve her work & other muslim women follow her work nothing from Islam remains for normalization , this beauty circus has same agenda that Christians used for muslims in Spain to spread sins amongst them that after that they could easily defeat Muslims & massacre them in Andalusia .
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    Futuremedstudent reacted to dragonxx in Hijabi Muslim becomes first Miss England Finalist   
    Thing is, before 9/11 and more recent "terroristic" groups like ISIS, as far as my understanding goes, muslims were already well-accepted and integrated in Western society. Many people before 9/11 said that they used to go to the muslim businessman for a good, honest deal where they know they wouldn't be cheated. Likewise nobody really cared about hijabi women, they let them be them, especially in Northern U.S and Canada.
    I never proposed a counter appeal, because I don't know what would work. However this appeal is damaging to muslims. It doesn't matter that they're steadfast in their beliefs because this just means more pressure from family, friends, and society to be more modern, more pressure to be like that girl. This pressure isn't necessary on top of what they have to deal with already. Some women come from muslim-by-name families and they don't know better and may run with the idea that that type of hijab is ok, or they may feel left out and new to religion so they'll just conform. I can go on and on with the examples but this I think is enough.
    Sure, mistakes are necessary, but they have consequences, especially from an Islamic perspective (ex. a person who suddenly throws himself in front of your car dies, you still have to pay a certain amount of money to his family).
    When it is more than a mistake (i.e. blatant hypocrisy), as which is the case with this Law student, she deserves nothing except backlash (in my opinion).
    Edit:
    Overall I think you're contradicting yourself, first you say we should take baby steps to be accepted in Western society, then you say true muslims shouldn't care what pressure Western society exerts on them.
    All I'm saying is, don't give muslims more trouble than they have to deal with, no matter how faithful they are. Keep your mistakes and your personal desires/problems away from the umbrella of an entire religion.
    I'd wager this was a publicity stunt by the lady in question, but Allah knows best.
  7. Haha
    Futuremedstudent reacted to dragonxx in Hijabi Muslim becomes first Miss England Finalist   
    where is the hijab? lol.
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    Futuremedstudent reacted to Laayla in Hijabi Muslim becomes first Miss England Finalist   
    Thank you, there is no point now for me to argue anything further.  
    M3 Salamah, FE AMIN Allah
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    Futuremedstudent reacted to Ashvazdanghe in Hijabi Muslim becomes first Miss England Finalist   
    Her dress doesn't has any islamic codes ,her dress is just for humiliating of Islamic dress code ,her dress worser than her makeup .
    with any intention her action is wrong & Haram & her money hurts the charity instead of helping to charity anyway doing good deeds through bad deeds prohibited in shia Islam by Imam Sadiq (as) 
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    Futuremedstudent reacted to Ashvazdanghe in Hijabi Muslim becomes first Miss England Finalist   
    Salam this is doing Halal by Haram money that has no use for her & suffering children.
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    Futuremedstudent reacted to abuhaydar in Hijabi Muslim becomes first Miss England Finalist   
    Reading through the thread, I didn't find anyone attacking the girl... just voicing that a Muslim beauty pageant is wrong.  And it is, no matter which way you rotate it. Beauty pageants even without Muslims are wrong.

    This whole "not judging" mantra is very false. I doubt anyone here even knows her name or remembers what she looks like ( I don't). But if you see something wrong you should speak out, and not stay silent. Maybe someone who was thinking of following her suit read this thread and changed her mind. You are calling for a very dangerous type of freedom. The type that will lead to the sick society that is now USA or the "free world". 
    BTW it is called "freedom" but it is actually slavery. 
  12. Confused
    Futuremedstudent got a reaction from 2Timeless in Hijabi Muslim becomes first Miss England Finalist   
    Also as a side note-- there is such thing of gaining knowledge. I know literature and if there is anything many works of literature talk about westernization or Orientalism. It is up to the seeker of truth to gain and seek knowledge. Islam says for everyone to seek and gain knowledge whether Islamic knowledge, mathematics, medicine etc.
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    Futuremedstudent got a reaction from 2Timeless in Hijabi Muslim becomes first Miss England Finalist   
    alright bro you do you. 
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    Futuremedstudent got a reaction from 2Timeless in Hijabi Muslim becomes first Miss England Finalist   
    You seem like the type who wouldn't care if any female related to you acted like the supposed "hijabi". Props for your ignorance. 
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    Futuremedstudent got a reaction from shia farm girl in Hijabi Muslim becomes first Miss England Finalist   
    My opinion is first of all that is NOT hijab. Seriously inflicting the wrong impression of what hijabis are supposed to look like. Western people will believe that is what constitutes hijab and that is a shame and disgrace for all practicing hijabis. I don't care if that shows a "good impression" of muslims-- afterall that is subjective and it is what the media chooses to show. Why not show the thousands of muslims donating food on Arbaeen? Why not show Muslim charities etc. Next thing you know they will show "hijabi's" singing and dancing-- which unfortunately already happened. I hope that got my point across. 
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    Futuremedstudent got a reaction from 2Timeless in Hijabi Muslim becomes first Miss England Finalist   
    I've never felt more offended as a hijabi. All of this western normalization of ideals is getting to y'all minds and its a disgrace. 
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    Futuremedstudent reacted to Maryaam in Hijabi Muslim becomes first Miss England Finalist   
    IA.
    Don’t know why this is such a big issue.  There seems to be a lot of speculation about a person we do not even know.  We should be guiding and supporting our Muslim sisters not ridiculing and slandering.
    This women is in a full length dress with full length sleeves and it goes to her neck.  The makeup is a bit much but no worse than many that I have seen on many a Muslima.  I have also seen less modest dress on TV stations that are accepted in “Muslim” countries.  
    Her stated intention is to raise money for a charity that she is involved in (started?) and is doing so by challenging a variety of stereotypes.  Who are we to challenge her intention?  We should be taking her at her word.
    However..... there are many Muslim women in the UK who have very difficult and challenging lives for a multitude of reasons based on haram or oppressive behaviour of others.  If we are able to spend this much time on one person, perhaps we can more wisely spend time and energy to address some of these challenges that adversely impact our sisters on a daily basis.
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    Futuremedstudent reacted to 2Timeless in Hijabi Muslim becomes first Miss England Finalist   
    Sister, no one "allowed" that behaviour. We're all agreeing that it's haram. Difference is, some people are claiming she simply is not a practicing Muslim and disrespecting her. Others opt to leave the judgement to God because none of us are qualified to judge her. And, how exactly do we not allow certain behaviour? We can't police Muslims. We all have the freewill to do whatever we want. 
    As for not telling others our sins, it's inevitable that we end up revealing our sins. Some sins cannot be hidden. For example ,not lowering your gaze, joking with a non-mahram, being caught in a lie, etc. The list goes on and on. And we will commit those sins because we are fallible. Whether it's the sins I mentioned, or other ones. Some may be easily concealed, others not.
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    Futuremedstudent reacted to Carlzone in Hijabi Muslim becomes first Miss England Finalist   
    By being lenient and allowing that behaviour verbally one supports it as it creates a social atmosphere that allows such behaviour. 
    As Muslims we are not even supposed to tell others our sins, let alone flash them before a whole nation. Why? - It normalizes the behaviour and leads to more people engaging in it.
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    Futuremedstudent reacted to 2Timeless in Hijabi Muslim becomes first Miss England Finalist   
    No one supported other peoples sins. For example, I acknowledged it was a sin and intend on learning from her mistakes. Isn't that amr bil ma3roof wa nahi an al munkar? What's the point of disrespecting someone because they seemingly don't adhere to becoming one's ideal believer ?
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    Futuremedstudent reacted to Carlzone in Hijabi Muslim becomes first Miss England Finalist   
    But we can't support people's sins. We must always do 3aml bill ma3roof and nahi 3an al momkar.
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    Futuremedstudent reacted to Carlzone in Hijabi Muslim becomes first Miss England Finalist   
    Sis, we are not judging her as a whole person. We just don't accept that thing she did. InshaAllah she will repent and better herself. 
     
    Personally I think we hijabis can (if we want) get degrees and reach high positions in an honourable fashion instead - people will respect us and our religion more if we hold steadfastly to it and don't compromise it because we are a minority in the country we live in. 
    In the end we should care for what our creator thinks of us and not what his creation thinks of us. Otherwise we are close to shirk.
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    Futuremedstudent reacted to 2Timeless in Hijabi Muslim becomes first Miss England Finalist   
    Yes , this was a dumb move on the contant's part, but who are we to judge whether she's a good Muslim or not? She may not abide by certain standards of hijab and she may be subjecting herself to objectification, but that doesn't completely rule out the possibility that she may have greater iman than all of us. I'm sure we all have things we regret and are ashamed of, none of us are infallibles. Instead of completely judging and bashing her for this one fault, we should acknowledge her wrong and learn from her mistakes. 
    As for my opinion, yes I agree she's objectifying herself and breaking rules of hijab in Islam (which are both very bad behaviours), I still think there is some slight positive. It gets rid of the misconception that hijabis are aliens and "ragheads" and unfeminine etc etc. Yes ,it may be at the expense of our worldwide image and respect for ourselves , but honestly I don't see much of a difference between herself and hijabis I see on the street almost everyday. She has just gone on TV. So, on the whole it is an unintelligent decision to take part in such a contest, but among all the negatives and haram, there is a slight positive to it, because she makes the life of hijabis living in the west that tiny bit more bearable.
  24. Completely Agree
    Futuremedstudent reacted to realizm in Hijabi Muslim becomes first Miss England Finalist   
    Seriously brother, all philosophical questions aside, can we at least agree on al sirat al mostaqim ? Is a beauty pageant a straight path to Allah's mercy ?
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    Futuremedstudent reacted to Laayla in Hijabi Muslim becomes first Miss England Finalist   
    You do that, you wait for the swimming suit segment (SSS).  Good job.
    When you put yourself out in public you are going to be scrutinized.  I realize some people struggle with hijab, but they are not out broadcasting themselves on TV.  What next, put a sticker on your hijab to represent a company?  Oh wait, Nike already did that.
    For those that advocate chastity, modesty, piety, it seems like a sourness in your mouths, or you would like to label it as self-righteousness.  Why do you think the standard or scale is based on ANY individual? By God, certainly not by me.  When I say are you going to face Rasoul Allah, I'm saying you should care how he thinks and how he gave you the pure religion from God, not how Britian wants to see you practice a perverted Islam.
    النَّبِيُّ أَوْلَى بِالْمُؤْمِنِينَ مِنْ أَنفُسِهِمْ
    The Prophet is more worthy of the believers than themselves
    As for women, our role models are Sayyida Fatymah, Sayyida Zaynab, Sayyida Mariam.  Were they flashing themselves in front of other men?  I asked you would you showcase your mother, daughter, wife in the public eye's as as usual divert the question into let Allah judge.  No accountability, no self building, no jihad al nafis.  All thrown out the window.
    Our Yemeni brothers and sisters are being killed in a physical war and they have no choice in the matter, and the Muslims worldwide are being killed slowly in a soft war, destroying and removing chastity, piety, and taqwa and they are choosing avenues of everything Rasoul Allah stood against.  What a shame. 
    You throw a line like "I'll stick to Quran."  Please do so, what does Quran say about hijab?  What does it say about women safeguarding their private parts?  And you want to wait to see the SSS, with a huge xD on your face.  Astgfor'Allah rabi wa atoob elaak.  Just amazing!  
    God keep us steadfast on His religion.
    M3 Salamah, FE AMIN Allah
    AM
     
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