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I am not interested in debating either of you on any of the topics you mentioned. I simply wanted to correct the incorrect assumption that ahlus sunnah take muawiyah and yazeed as caliphs. they don’t. their ahadith mention the rule of muawiya and yazeed as a kingship. not khilafah. let alone khilafat e rashidah.

I said according to Sunni ahadith. not according to islamqa. I am also talking about the 12 caliph. not khilafat e rashida. muawiya and yazid werent caliphs. they were kings.

lol what? where did you get that from? even muawiyah wasnt a caliph according to Sunni ahadith. let alone yazeed

I don’t understand the point of this post.

I have no problem in a Muslim lying to save ones life. Who am I when the Qur'an permits it. But what Imam jafar apparently says goes against the Qur'an. Leaving taqiyya is like leaving salah? How is that? And whoever does do taqiyya has no imaan? Meaning taqiyya is wajib and whoever doesnt do it is kafir? How does that make any sense?

1. To learn. Not trying to judge. If it is what it is, who am I to say anything? 2. I can’t. I wouldnt be asking this question otherwise. The ahadith I mentioned in the OP. Imam jafar says whoever leaves taqiyya is like the one who leaves salah. While Qur'an says it is permissible to do taqiyya. Implying one is allowed to leave it.

Yes but what about the narrations I quoted? That was the main issue I had. Narrations are telling something completely different

I agree with all this. But narrations which I quoted above by Imam jafar say something completely different.

Salam all. I always thought that the taqiyya that Shias do is basically hiding ones beliefs if one fears harm but it isnt necessary. And my point of view was confirmed by what al-Islam.org say. But the problem arose when I came across quite a few narrations from Imam jafar (عليه السلام). that said otherwise: He said: taqiyya is my deen and the deen of my forefathers. And he has no iman who does not have taqiyya. Usool ul kafi 2/217, bihar ul anwar 75/423 Also, he said: if I were to say that the one who abandons taqiyya is like the one who abandons salah, I would be

Al munajjid manages islamqa.info not islamqa.org, which the OP cites.

I still don’t understand. If the ahadith are considered an invitation and permission, why ask permission again 3 times?

What do you mean? If permission is sought before entering someone's house, do you recite permission and then enter without waiting for them to grant permission? Or do you wait and only when they say something like 'you may enter' do you enter?

provide the source where the most knowledgeable Sunni scholar says its wipe and not wash

let us take everything unrelated to the OP to a different post. and only let the OP discussion continue here

I am well aware of these arguments akhi. I was asking if you were too.