First Responder

وعليكم السلام ورحمة الله وبركاته

You see when we first began talking, you had opinions that I refuted with Ayat. After laying the Hujjah on you, you persisted in refusing to believe in the Ayat, on top of attempting to change their meaning using other ayat and talked about other topics. With Yaqeen, you chose, to commit kuffor in those ayat. Therefore I did not call you a kaffir for no reason, I am stating a fact that occurred. Oh and I am only obeying what Aza wa jal says in the Quran Al Kareem by telling people what is true and is inline with the Quran, not deviated: 10تب ال عمران 104 بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم وَلْتَكُن مِّنكُمْ أُمَّةٌ يَدْعُونَ إِلَى الْخَيْرِ وَيَأْمُرُونَ بِالْمَعْرُوفِ وَيَنْهَوْنَ عَنِ الْمُنكَرِ ۚ وَأُولَـٰئِكَ هُمُ الْمُفْلِحُونَ صدق الله العلي العظيم There was no misunderstanding. You know what I meant, I even repeated it, but you still attempt to change topics and not admit it, hence committing kuffor. (p.s. everyone should go back and read what was said by him and I) You are bankrupt, you never thought you'd meet such superior knowledge of Quran from a shia or sunni, and now are attempting to accuse me of falsely accusing you of kufr. Quranis think that sunnis and shiias don't know anything about the Quran and talk about ahadith only,but after proving that shia are superior compared to every other sect (including those who claim to be Quranis), you are trying hard to flip the table and escape. Don't worry, this will be my last post, since you have nothing left. Oh and speaking of "un-islamic tactics" (as if you are a muslim in the first place..) I will conclude with what I started. It is you who loves Kufr over E-man, and despise the prophet (sal Allah alayh wa aleh). Not only that, you only believe in what you like and disbelieve in others التوبة 23 بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا لَا تَتَّخِذُوا آبَاءَكُمْ وَإِخْوَانَكُمْ أَوْلِيَاءَ إِنِ اسْتَحَبُّوا الْكُفْرَ عَلَى الْإِيمَانِ ۚ وَمَن يَتَوَلَّهُم مِّنكُمْ فَأُولَـٰئِكَ هُمُ الظَّالِمُونَ صدق الله العلي العظيم البقرة 85 بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم ثُمَّ أَنتُمْ هَـٰؤُلَاءِ تَقْتُلُونَ أَنفُسَكُمْ وَتُخْرِجُونَ فَرِيقًا مِّنكُم مِّن دِيَارِهِمْ تَظَاهَرُونَ عَلَيْهِم بِالْإِثْمِ وَالْعُدْوَانِ وَإِن يَأْتُوكُمْ أُسَارَىٰ تُفَادُوهُمْ وَهُوَ مُحَرَّمٌ عَلَيْكُمْ إِخْرَاجُهُمْ ۚ أَفَتُؤْمِنُونَ بِبَعْضِ الْكِتَابِ وَتَكْفُرُونَ بِبَعْضٍ ۚ فَمَا جَزَاءُ مَن يَفْعَلُ ذَٰلِكَ مِنكُمْ إِلَّا خِزْيٌ فِي الْحَيَاةِ الدُّنْيَا ۖ وَيَوْمَ الْقِيَامَةِ يُرَدُّونَ إِلَىٰ أَشَدِّ الْعَذَابِ ۗ وَمَا اللَّـهُ بِغَافِلٍ عَمَّا تَعْمَلُونَ صدق الله العلي العظيم Oh and before I go for good from this thread, IF you fast for ramadan, make sure the sky is black and no light visible in the sky (just a tip from a muslim on top of the first tip that I gave, of wiping your feet during wudo and not washing like the Quran says)

First and foremost thank you for publicly admitting kuffor in the verses of Quran, especially the verse that states that the Prophet is the one who reveals to us the meaning of the Quran, by denying it and trying to change the topic to talk about "understanding, knowledge, guidance, The Qur'an and the Books which come before are a revelation from Allah" to prove otherwise. Oh really?. ‏[‏الشورى‏:‏ 52-53‏] بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم ‏‏وَإِنَّكَ لَتَهْدِي إِلَى صِرَاطٍ مُّسْتَقِيمٍ صِرَاطِ اللَّهِ الَّذِي لَهُ مَا فِي السَّمَاوَاتِ وَمَا فِي الْأَرْضِ أَلَا إِلَى اللَّهِ تَصِيرُ الأمُورُ‏ صدق الله العلي العظيم ‏[‏إبراهيم‏:‏ 1‏] بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم ‏‏كِتَابٌ أَنزَلْنَاهُ إِلَيْكَ لِتُخْرِجَ النَّاسَ مِنَ الظُّلُمَاتِ إِلَى النُّورِ بِإِذْنِ رَبِّهِمْ إِلَى صِرَاطِ الْعَزِيزِ الْحَمِيدِ صدق الله العلي العظيم Not only you commited kuffor in one verse, but now you commited kuffor in FOUR.Second of all since Quranis seem to have a problem with the prophet (sal Allah alayh wa aleh wa salam), let me teach you what Allah (aza wa jal) in the Quran says about the prophet, that he OWNS YOUR LIFE. In other words, your life belongs and is a property of the Prophet (sal Allah alayh wa aleh wa salam). SO if he told you to shine shoes, you will shine shoes with a smile on your face that is IF you so wish to remain a believer. الأحزاب 6 بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم النَّبِيُّ أَوْلَىٰ بِالْمُؤْمِنِينَ مِنْ أَنفُسِهِمْ ۖ وَأَزْوَاجُهُ أُمَّهَاتُهُمْ ۗ وَأُولُو الْأَرْحَامِ بَعْضُهُمْ أَوْلَىٰ بِبَعْضٍ فِي كِتَابِ اللَّـهِ مِنَ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ وَالْمُهَاجِرِينَ إِلَّا أَن تَفْعَلُوا إِلَىٰ أَوْلِيَائِكُم مَّعْرُوفًا ۚ كَانَ ذَٰلِكَ فِي الْكِتَابِ مَسْطُورًا صدق الله العلي العظيم Even better! If you just raise your voice next to the prophet (sal Allah alayh wa aleh wa salam), JUST RAISE YOUR VOICE, all your work (prayer, fasting, zakat) means nothing anymore and you are going straight down to hell. That is IF you raise your voice, now what about those who deny his role, actions, and sayings? الحجرات 2 بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا لَا تَرْفَعُوا أَصْوَاتَكُمْ فَوْقَ صَوْتِ النَّبِيِّ وَلَا تَجْهَرُوا لَهُ بِالْقَوْلِ كَجَهْرِ بَعْضِكُمْ لِبَعْضٍ أَن تَحْبَطَ أَعْمَالُكُمْ وَأَنتُمْ لَا تَشْعُرُونَ صدق الله العلي العظيم And one more thing... IF YOU WANT Allah (aza wa jal) to forgive your sins, and get into heaven, YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW THE PROPHET 100%, YOUR WHOLE FAITH LIES ON FOLLOWING THE PROPHET. ال عمران 31 بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم قُلْ إِن كُنتُمْ تُحِبُّونَ اللَّـهَ فَاتَّبِعُونِي يُحْبِبْكُمُ اللَّـهُ وَيَغْفِرْ لَكُمْ ذُنُوبَكُمْ ۗ وَاللَّـهُ غَفُورٌ رَّحِيمٌ صدق الله العلي العظيم P.S: I suggest you read the Quran and not the English translations which are worse than most of the Arabic translations. Just a tip from a Muslim, if you want to become one. All in All, it is hypocritical of you to make a thread about how all sects have deviated yet, YOU and your ideology commit kuffor in some Quranic verses that are clear as day.

I am talking oranges you're talking apples. The verse clearly stated that it is the Prophet (sal Allah alayh wa Aleh) who reveals to people what the verses mean. In other words, you can't explicate the quran without him. I did not say that it is only accessible to "scholars".

I mean, what do YOU think? they think of women as property and always blame their problems on anything else...

I am saddened to hear that, but you have to be good to them, the only thing you can do is refuse to obey them. العنكبوت 8 بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم وَوَصَّيْنَا الْإِنسَانَ بِوَالِدَيْهِ حُسْنًا ۖ وَإِن جَاهَدَاكَ لِتُشْرِكَ بِي مَا لَيْسَ لَكَ بِهِ عِلْمٌ فَلَا تُطِعْهُمَا ۚ إِلَيَّ مَرْجِعُكُمْ فَأُنَبِّئُكُم بِمَا كُنتُمْ تَعْمَلُونَ صدق الله العلي العظيم

(It is fully detailed, but normal people like us can only grasp a few things and not all, excluding the fact that some verses are muhkamat and mutashabihat. Your response is naïve.) النحل 44 بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم بِالْبَيِّنَاتِ وَالزُّبُرِ ۗ وَأَنزَلْنَا إِلَيْكَ الذِّكْرَ لِتُبَيِّنَ لِلنَّاسِ مَا نُزِّلَ إِلَيْهِمْ وَلَعَلَّهُمْ يَتَفَكَّرُونَ صدق الله العلي العظيم

out of all sects, shia are the only ones who I know that wipe their feet during wudo like what is written in the Quran al Kareem unlike the other sects . المائدة 6 بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا إِذَا قُمْتُمْ إِلَى الصَّلَاةِ فَاغْسِلُوا وُجُوهَكُمْ وَأَيْدِيَكُمْ إِلَى الْمَرَافِقِ وَامْسَحُوا بِرُءُوسِكُمْ وَأَرْجُلَكُمْ إِلَى الْكَعْبَيْنِ ۚ وَإِن كُنتُمْ جُنُبًا فَاطَّهَّرُوا ۚ وَإِن كُنتُم مَّرْضَىٰ أَوْ عَلَىٰ سَفَرٍ أَوْ جَاءَ أَحَدٌ مِّنكُم مِّنَ الْغَائِطِ أَوْ لَامَسْتُمُ النِّسَاءَ فَلَمْ تَجِدُوا مَاءً فَتَيَمَّمُوا صَعِيدًا طَيِّبًا فَامْسَحُوا بِوُجُوهِكُمْ وَأَيْدِيكُم مِّنْهُ ۚ مَا يُرِيدُ اللَّـهُ لِيَجْعَلَ عَلَيْكُم مِّنْ حَرَجٍ وَلَـٰكِن يُرِيدُ لِيُطَهِّرَكُمْ وَلِيُتِمَّ نِعْمَتَهُ عَلَيْكُمْ لَعَلَّكُمْ تَشْكُرُونَ صدق الله العلي العظيم

المائدة 105 بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا عَلَيْكُمْ أَنفُسَكُمْ ۖ لَا يَضُرُّكُم مَّن ضَلَّ إِذَا اهْتَدَيْتُمْ ۚ إِلَى اللَّـهِ مَرْجِعُكُمْ جَمِيعًا فَيُنَبِّئُكُم بِمَا كُنتُمْ تَعْمَلُونَ صدق الله العلي العظيم

Typical, act like lions with each other but they are like sheep when alone

Moqtada Al Sadr = Abu Musa Al Shari

Wa alaykm alsalam. Listen to what this sunni has to say if you know arabic:

Good genes for soccer?... I don't think genes has anything to do it

ال عمران 25 بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم أَلَمْ تَرَ إِلَى الَّذِينَ أُوتُوا نَصِيبًا مِّنَ الْكِتَابِ يُدْعَوْنَ إِلَىٰ كِتَابِ اللَّـهِ لِيَحْكُمَ بَيْنَهُمْ ثُمَّ يَتَوَلَّىٰ فَرِيقٌ مِّنْهُمْ وَهُم مُّعْرِضُونَ ﴿٢٣﴾ ذَٰلِكَ بِأَنَّهُمْ قَالُوا لَن تَمَسَّنَا النَّارُ إِلَّا أَيَّامًا مَّعْدُودَاتٍ ۖ وَغَرَّهُمْ فِي دِينِهِم مَّا كَانُوا يَفْتَرُونَ ﴿٢٤﴾ فَكَيْفَ إِذَا جَمَعْنَاهُمْ لِيَوْمٍ لَّا رَيْبَ فِيهِ وَوُفِّيَتْ كُلُّ نَفْسٍ مَّا كَسَبَتْ وَهُمْ لَا يُظْلَمُونَ صدق الله العلي العظيم سورة البقرة 81 بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم فَوَيْلٌ لِّلَّذِينَ يَكْتُبُونَ الْكِتَابَ بِأَيْدِيهِمْ ثُمَّ يَقُولُونَ هَـٰذَا مِنْ عِندِ اللَّـهِ لِيَشْتَرُوا بِهِ ثَمَنًا قَلِيلًا ۖ فَوَيْلٌ لَّهُم مِّمَّا كَتَبَتْ أَيْدِيهِمْ وَوَيْلٌ لَّهُم مِّمَّا يَكْسِبُونَ ﴿٧٩﴾ وَقَالُوا لَن تَمَسَّنَا النَّارُ إِلَّا أَيَّامًا مَّعْدُودَةً ۚ قُلْ أَتَّخَذْتُمْ عِندَ اللَّـهِ عَهْدًا فَلَن يُخْلِفَ اللَّـهُ عَهْدَهُ ۖ أَمْ تَقُولُونَ عَلَى اللَّـهِ مَا لَا تَعْلَمُونَ ﴿٨٠﴾ بَلَىٰ مَن كَسَبَ سَيِّئَةً وَأَحَاطَتْ بِهِ خَطِيئَتُهُ فَأُولَـٰئِكَ أَصْحَابُ النَّارِ ۖ هُمْ فِيهَا خَالِدُونَ صدق الله العلي العظيم

No one pays poor rate while bowing during prayer.