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@Abu Hadi Do we condone this sort of language against people who identify as Gay?

Entering paradise is prohibited for the spies and gossip mongers Imam Muhammed al-Baqir (as) has said: "'Entering paradise is prohibited to spies and gossip mongers.'" محمد بن يحيى ، عن محمد بن أحمد ، عن محمد بن عيسى ، عن يوسف بن عقيل ، عن محمد بن قيس ، عن أبي جعفر عليه‌السلام قال محرمة الجنة على القتاتين المشاءين بالنميمة. [Saheeh]

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته The following are traditions from the Prophet (saw) and his purified progeny warning against many vices such as : judging the intention of a believer, backbiting a believer, spying and looking for faults privately or other wise, rejoicing at the loss, waiting for one to slip up, talking to them in a harsh manner, having a grudge and enmity in the heart and much more. This is a reminder to myself, before anyone else, particularly in this month of mercy, if we wish to be forgiven we should be merciful amongst ourselves. Cliques, knowledge which makes us arrogant, gossip, backbiting, these are from the fire and it doesn't matter how much you pray or serve, whoever you are, if you partake in these you've got a massive way to go and if you keep on that way, you're going to be in trouble and live a life of bitterness. Do not think you are safe , no matter how pious, knowledgable, or a devout worshipper you are, because these vices will consume your deeds and destroy them. You will be like one firm on his means of transport, driving unknowingly over an enormous ditch. Have a smug or condescending attitude when you see a fellow brother or sister? Prejudge them and treat them on that basis? All of the traditions that follow are taken from Kitab al-Kafi, Book of Belief and Disbelief , Volume 2. A divine warning from Allah , the Almighty The Messenger of Allah ﷺ has said, “When the Holy Prophet was taken to visit the heavens, he asked, ‘O Lord, how is the condition of the believers before you?’ He (Allah) said, ‘O Muhammad, whoever insults any of My friends has declared war against Me. I am the quickest to help My friends. I have not hesitated in any of My acts as much as I do at the time of the death of a believer who dislikes death and I dislike to disappoint him. Of My believing servants there are those who do not perform well without wealth and if I change his condition he is destroyed. Also among My believing servants are those who do not perform well unless they are poor and, if I change their condition to something else, they are destroyed. For seeking nearness to Me there is no better means for My servant than to fulfill what 1 have made obligatory for them and that he should seek nearness to Me through performing optional acts of worship so I will love him. When I will love him I will be his ears with which he will hear, his eyes with which he will see, his tongue with which he will speak and his hands with which he will perform his activities. Whenever he prays I will answer him and, whenever he asks a favor, I will grant him.'” عدة من أصحابنا ، عن أحمد بن محمد بن خالد ، عن إسماعيل بن مهران عن أبي سعيد القماط ، عن أبان بن تغلب ، عن أبي جعفر عليه‌السلام قال لما أسري بالنبي صلى‌الله‌عليه‌وآله قال يا رب ما حال المؤمن عندك ـ قال يا محمد من أهان لي وليا فقد بارزني بالمحاربة وأنا أسرع شيء إلى نصرة أوليائي وما ترددت عن شيء أنا فاعله كترددي عن وفاة المؤمن يكره الموت وأكره مساءته وإن من عبادي المؤمنين من لا يصلحه إلا الغنى ولو صرفته إلى غير ذلك لهلك وإن من عبادي المؤمنين من لا يصلحه إلا الفقر ولو صرفته إلى غير ذلك لهلك وما يتقرب إلي عبد من عبادي بشيء أحب إلي مما افترضت عليه وإنه ليتقرب إلي بالنافلة حتى أحبه فإذا أحببته كنت إذا سمعه الذي يسمع به وبصره الذي يبصر به ولسانه الذي ينطق به ويده التي يبطش بها إن دعاني أجبته وإن سألني أعطيته [Saheeh - this tradition in meaning i also believe comes through other chains, including in Sunni books] A terrifying warning against those who begin to revile, insult, assume, or judge (your words against another will come back at you, safeguard your Akhirah) Imam Musa al-Khadim (as) has said: "'Of the two people reviling each other, the initiator is more unjust. He bears his own sin and the sin of his companion as long as he does not apologize to the oppressed.'" ابن محبوب ، عن عبد الرحمن بن الحجاج ، عن أبي الحسن موسى عليه‌السلام في رجلين يتسابان قال البادي منهما أظلم ووزره ووزر صاحبه عليه ما لم يعتذر إلى المظلوم. [Saheeh] Imam Muhammed al-Baqir (as) has said: "'When words of condemnation come out of the mouth of a person they move back and forth between the two to find the deserving party. If the deserving party is not found they come back to their owner (speaker of words of condemnation).'" محمد بن يحيى ، عن أحمد بن محمد بن عيسى ، عن الحسن بن علي ، عن علي ابن عقبة ، عن عبد الله بن سنان ، عن أبي حمزة الثمالي قال سمعت أبا جعفر عليه‌السلام يقول إن اللعنة إذا خرجت من في صاحبها ترددت بينهما فإن وجدت مساغا وإلا رجعت على صاحبها. [Muwathaq like Saheeh] Imam Jaffer as-Sadiq (as) has said: "When a believer accuses his brother (in faith), belief melts away in his heart just as salt melts away in water.'" علي بن إبراهيم ، عن أبيه ، عن حماد بن عيسى ، عن إبراهيم بن عمر اليماني ، عن أبي عبد الله عليه‌السلام قال إذا اتهم المؤمن أخاه انماث الإيمان من قلبه كما ينماث الملح في الماء. [Hasan-Like-Saheeh] Entering paradise is prohibited for the spies and gossip mongers Imam Muhammed al-Baqir (as) has said: "'Entering paradise is prohibited to spies and gossip mongers.'" محمد بن يحيى ، عن محمد بن أحمد ، عن محمد بن عيسى ، عن يوسف بن عقيل ، عن محمد بن قيس ، عن أبي جعفر عليه‌السلام قال محرمة الجنة على القتاتين المشاءين بالنميمة. [Saheeh] Searching the privacy of the believer to seek to find faults in them The Messenger of Allah ﷺ has said : "O group of people who have accepted Islam with their tongue and not yet with their heart, do not seek to search into the privacies of the Muslims to find faults in them; Allah will then do the same to them and to whomever Allah will do such a thing. He will bring disgrace upon him.'” عنه ، عن الحجال ، عن عاصم بن حميد ، عن أبي بصير ، عن أبي جعفر عليه‌السلام قال قال رسول الله صلى‌الله‌عليه‌وآله يا معشر من أسلم بلسانه ولم يسلم بقلبه لا تتبعوا عثرات المسلمين فإنه من تتبع عثرات المسلمين تتبع الله عثرته ومن تتبع الله عثرته يفضحه. [Saheeh - and i have found this tradition narrated through multiple chains, a number being authentic] Publicising indecent acts, and rebuking believers The Messenger of Allah ﷺ has said: ” Whoever publicizes an indecent act is considered as the initiator of such deed and whoever rebukes a believer for a thing will not die before he himself commits such a thing." عنه ، عن أبيه ، عن ابن أبي عمير ، عن إسماعيل بن عمار ، عن إسحاق بن عمار ، عن أبي عبد الله عليه‌السلام قال قال رسول الله صلى‌الله‌عليه‌وآله من أذاع فاحشة كان كمبتدئها ومن عير مؤمنا بشيء لم يمت حتى يركبه. [Hasan-Muwathaq-like-Saheeh] Reviling a believer The Messenger of Allah ﷺ has said, ‘Reviling a believer is a gross sin, fighting him is disbelief, eating his flesh (backbiting) is disobedience and the illegality of consuming his property is like the illegality of spilling his blood (taking his life).”‘ عدة من أصحابنا ، عن أحمد بن محمد بن عيسى ، عن الحسين بن سعيد ، عن فضالة بن أيوب ، عن عبد الله بن بكير ، عن أبي بصير ، عن أبي جعفر عليه‌السلام قال : قال رسول الله صلى‌الله‌عليه‌وآله سباب المؤمن فسوق وقتاله كفر وأكل لحمه معصية وحرمة ماله كحرمة دمه. [Muwathaq-Like-Saheeh] Backbiting a believer akin to an internal cancerous disease The Messenger of Allah ﷺ has said: ‘Backbiting destroys the religion of a person faster than an internal cancerous disease.’ “The Imam has also said, ‘The Messenger of Allah has said, “Sitting in the mosque is worship as long as it does not happen.” He was asked, ‘O Messenger of Allah, ‘What has not happened?’ He said, ‘Backbiting.'” علي بن إبراهيم ، عن أبيه ، عن النوفلي ، عن السكوني ، عن أبي عبد الله عليه‌السلام قال قال رسول الله صلى‌الله‌عليه‌وآله الغيبة أسرع في دين الرجل المسلم من الأكلة في جوفه. قال وقال رسول الله صلى‌الله‌عليه‌وآله الجلوس في المسجد انتظار الصلاة عبادة ما لم يحدث قيل يا رسول الله وما يحدث قال الاغتياب. [Weak , and famously narrated] How Satan causes animosity between believers Imam Muhammed al-Baqir (as) has said: "Satan keeps throwing animosity among the believers until one of them forsakes his religion. When this happens, Satan stretches down on his back and says, 'This is my victory.' May Allah grant blessings to those who make peace between two of our friends. O believing people, unite and be compassionate to each other."' علي بن إبراهيم ، عن أبيه ، عن ابن أبي عمير ، عن ابن أذينة ، عن زرارة عن أبي جعفر عليه‌السلام قال إن الشيطان يغري بين المؤمنين ما لم يرجع أحدهم عن دينه فإذا فعلوا ذلك استلقى على قفاه وتمدد ثم قال فزت فرحم الله امرأ ألف بين وليين لنا يا معشر المؤمنين تألفوا وتعاطفوا. [Hasan like Saheeh] Rejoicing at the troubles of a fellow believer Imam Jaffer as-Sadiq (as) had said: "Do not express joy at the trouble of your brother (in belief); Allah may grant him a favor and transfer that trouble to you.' The Imam also said, 'Whoever rejoices at the suffering that has come upon his brother (in belief) he will not leave this world before going through such suffering himself.'" عدة من أصحابنا ، عن أحمد بن محمد بن خالد ، عن الحسن بن علي بن فضال ، عن إبراهيم بن محمد الأشعري ، عن أبان بن عبد الملك ، عن أبي عبد الله عليه‌السلام أنه قال لا تبدي الشماتة لأخيك فيرحمه‌الله ويصيرها بك وقال من شمت بمصيبة نزلت بأخيه لم يخرج من الدنيا حتى يفتتن. [Hasan-Muwathaq] If you have a grudge towards a fellow believer, this is the time to end it. If you spy, backbite, make assumptions, this is the time to seek forgiveness and cease.If there is malice in your heart whenever you see them, and if you can't bring your heart to park your prejudice aside when they say something, now is the time to end it. If you can't help but judge them and make assumptions about them without thinking better about them, now is the time to reform and purify your mind. No matter how holy we are, how much knowledge we gain, how much we pray, we are truly nothing if we treat each other in this way and manner. This applies to me, and every single one of us. Unite, and have mercy and compassion for one another. As Imam Muhammed al-Baqir has said (i've quote it earlier): "May Allah grant blessings to those who make peace between two of our friends. O believing people, unite and be compassionate to each other."' and The Messenger of Allah ﷺ has said: , “Whoever pleases a believer has pleased me, and whoever, pleases me has pleased Allah.'” [Saheeh] What will it be? Our ego, our soul and our Akhirah, and pleasing Allah? Choose wisely. Bin that malice. Muhammed and his purified progeny don't want slogan chanting, nor do they want well-read intelligent Shias forming cliques against another. Either we all wise up, or we can follow our egos into the fire, Nauzibillah.

Indeed. The night has just descended upon us here and i will not be responding until tomorrow. I recommend all users focus on what is more important this night and refrain from even being on Shiachat.

Think better of your brother. I am off to perform A'mals, and won't be on tonight. This was an incidental finding. Your issue should be with the Shias dragging the name of your Madhab through mud by acting in this manner and not me for bringing it to your attention.

I've been attacked and no-doubt will be attacked for this thread. But to speak out against this stupidity for the sake of Allah and the purity of message of Muhammed and ale Muhammed, i'll take it. They can rain down their personal attacks if they wish on me. This is bigger than you, me or anyone else.

It was a brief browsing to see what goes on in the 21st Night (martyrdom of Ali (as)). I wanted to know how depraved some communities can get, that they can perform such barbaric acts in these holy nights. You would think they would see sense. I take people hijacking my Madhab very personally.

Brother, i'm showing an inferiority complex by stating some acts are so far from rational behaviour, against our Fitrah in reason and sense, and by virtue of the act in and of itself brings ridicule to the Madhab in a manner which evokes universal disgust from Shia and non-Shia alike? It might be halal to bark like dogs and crawl around shrines as some do, but is that how we carry ourselves out as rational human beings?

Suicide bombing is totally different example. It's performed by 0.0001 percent if not less, of Sunnis and condemned by all their sects whole heartedly. You can't say the same about bizarre Shia rituals which are associated as a religious practise of the sect.

Between Shias and Sunnis, there is little doubt which group has within them the most bizarre customs. Self mutilation of babies, massive blades cutting into scalps and backs, walking on coal, praying on fire, rolling around and covering ones whole body in very thick mud. One needs only google image 'Sunni Muslims' and 'Shia Muslims' before delving into their own research. We even beaten Christians to it, barring the strange types who self-harm. Atheists are lost, and even they are making fun of our self-mutilation rituals, which also gets universal disgust from Sunnis and most Christians. All i can say is, i take this very personally and it hurts and we more than most other groups are a universal laughing stock.

Salamualaykum, If you have any Dua requests, post them here, and i, and perhaps others will pray to Allah on your behalf. Please tonight, pray for my health, by studies and work, and my family. This is the most likely night of destiny (soon in my region). This is also a message that i forgive every single individual, whether i know you have done wrong to me, or i do not know. I also ask you all have it in your hearts to forgive me.

My goodness. No wonder you're so disgusted and pushed to go onto - as i've said before, a bit too opposite- direction. I would not attend that centre and would go to another one that was Shia, else avoid it or leave early before the barbaric rituals started. Have you ever seen someone praying on fire?

@Sumerian Is one scholar leaving another in charge in this manner a justified criteria? Sorry to keep quoting you, but whatever i learn accurately i'll keep and pass it on.

Of course brother, i have no authority to tell anyone what to do, only to make people see reason. It doesn't matter what Marji' permits cutting the scalps of babies.

This wasn't a jurisprudential verdict. If one group of people cut their children and their Marji' say it's okay, and mine says it's utter deviance an devoid of reason, sense and Islam and he has spoken out against it and said she can not remain silent, i'll also join suit and speak out. In this thread, i just wanted to know what you meant by 'Majoosi' practises. What Majoosi events do Shias participate in?

I think also brother , stupidity and superstition exists among some Shias also. We are becoming a laughing stock.

May Allah grant them safety, strength, prosperity, and guide those of them riddled in innovation and supersition - and generally this applies to us all.

I follow a Marji' but i don't need to tell you who.

@Sumerian I knew you would give the most accurate answer. Barakallahufeek.

How shocking. Are you surprised with the amount of sheer bizarre stupidity among Shias no-one takes us seriously?

They should go after Shaykh as-Saduq, Shaykh Tusi, Allama Hilli, if they even read our classical works, let alone know who these scholars are.

Each to their own, but the last thing i would want to do as a Muwahhid and believer in the oneness of Allah, is make fires Zoroastrians in my own country used to worship, and jump over them just like the Zoroastrians used to jump over, imitating them in their rituals over a fire they worshipped. I don't think i would see Imam al-Mahdi (ajfs) do that.

If there are people of Khibra on both sides all claiming their scholar is the most knowledgable, what is the next step one must take ?

@Sumerian Is this reason valid?

As if we couldn't get more bizarre in what we do. Where is this and does anyone know why they are doing this? [Mod Note: The video is from an anti-Shia youtube channel.] Personal note: I was not aware the youtube channel was 'anti-Shia' this just came up when i was also browsing self-mutilation videos of Shias on Laylatul Qadr and other bizarre practises.Not surprising enemies of Shias would want to spread these despicable acts.