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Urwatul Wuthqa

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  1. One reason for quoting these blessed verses was to let you know that your demands are not new. People in the times of Prophets have asked the same things, they wished that God sent angels to them, they wished that God sent book or revelation on them, they denied the judgement day, they denied the concept of heaven & hell. said the revelation as poetry and story of the ancient etc. Please share with us what do you think Prophet & Imams could do and see on their own? قَالَتْ لَهُمْ رُسُلُهُمْ إِنْ نَحْنُ إِلَّا بَشَرٌ مِثْلُكُمْ وَلَٰكِنَّ اللَّهَ يَمُنُّ عَلَىٰ مَنْ يَشَاءُ مِنْ عِبَادِهِ ۖ وَمَا كَانَ لَنَا أَنْ نَأْتِيَكُمْ بِسُلْطَانٍ إِلَّا بِإِذْنِ اللَّهِ ۚ وَعَلَى اللَّهِ فَلْيَتَوَكَّلِ الْمُؤْمِنُونَ {11} [Shakir 14:11] Their messengers said to them: We are nothing but mortals like yourselves, but Allah bestows (His) favors on whom He pleases of His servants, and it is not for us that we should bring you an authority except by Allah's permission; and on Allah should the believers rely. Those who believe and equipped with ilmul yaqeen, can see the heaven and hell. You just need to remove veils from your sight. أَمْ لِلْإِنسَانِ مَا تَمَنَّى Strange!!! Human bury his fellows throughout his lives, witnesses that this limited life will end one day and everyone will perish. Yet he strives for worldly gains and leave aside the guidance. There are people who if given comprehensive knowledge and shown every signs, would not believe وَأَقْسَمُوا بِاللَّهِ جَهْدَ أَيْمَانِهِمْ لَئِنْ جَاءَتْهُمْ آيَةٌ لَيُؤْمِنُنَّ بِهَا ۚ قُلْ إِنَّمَا الْآيَاتُ عِنْدَ اللَّهِ ۖ وَمَا يُشْعِرُكُمْ أَنَّهَا إِذَا جَاءَتْ لَا يُؤْمِنُونَ {109} [Shakir 6:109] And they swear by Allah with the strongest of their oaths, that if a sign came to them they would most certainly believe in it. Say: Signs are only with Allah; and what should make you know that when it comes they will not believe قُلِ انْظُرُوا مَاذَا فِي السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضِ ۚ وَمَا تُغْنِي الْآيَاتُ وَالنُّذُرُ عَنْ قَوْمٍ لَا يُؤْمِنُونَ {101} [Shakir 10:101] Say: Consider what is it that is in the heavens and the Earth; and signs and warners do not avail a people who would not believe. You would not have dared to ask this if you have kept in mind few verses of Qur'an. And as shared with you, your demands are quite similar to Kafirs,
  2. Asateer alawwaleen (stories of old times)??? Surah An-Nahl, Verse 24: وَإِذَا قِيلَ لَهُم مَّاذَا أَنزَلَ رَبُّكُمْ قَالُوا أَسَاطِيرُ الْأَوَّلِينَ And when it is said to them, what is it that your Lord has revealed? They say: Stories of the ancients; (English - Shakir)
  3. Surah Adh-Dhariyat, Verse 55: وَذَكِّرْ فَإِنَّ الذِّكْرَىٰ تَنفَعُ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ And continue to remind, for surely the reminder profits the believers. (English - Shakir) This "only" question of yours is reminding me too much of the divine words. Lets see few of them: Surah Al-Isra, Verse 89: وَلَقَدْ صَرَّفْنَا لِلنَّاسِ فِي هَٰذَا الْقُرْآنِ مِن كُلِّ مَثَلٍ فَأَبَىٰ أَكْثَرُ النَّاسِ إِلَّا كُفُورًا And certainly We have explained for men in this Qur'an every kind of similitude, but most men do not consent to aught but denying. (English - Shakir) Surah Al-Isra, Verse 90: وَقَالُوا لَن نُّؤْمِنَ لَكَ حَتَّىٰ تَفْجُرَ لَنَا مِنَ الْأَرْضِ يَنبُوعًا And they say: We will by no means believe in you until you cause a fountain to gush forth from the Earth for us. (English - Shakir) Surah Al-Isra, Verse 91: أَوْ تَكُونَ لَكَ جَنَّةٌ مِّن نَّخِيلٍ وَعِنَبٍ فَتُفَجِّرَ الْأَنْهَارَ خِلَالَهَا تَفْجِيرًا Or you should have a garden of palms and grapes in the midst of which you should cause rivers to flow forth, gushing out. (English - Shakir) Surah Al-Isra, Verse 92: أَوْ تُسْقِطَ السَّمَاءَ كَمَا زَعَمْتَ عَلَيْنَا كِسَفًا أَوْ تَأْتِيَ بِاللَّهِ وَالْمَلَائِكَةِ قَبِيلًا Or you should cause the heaven to come down upon us in pieces as you think, or bring Allah and the angels face to face (with us). (English - Shakir) Surah Al-Isra, Verse 93: أَوْ يَكُونَ لَكَ بَيْتٌ مِّن زُخْرُفٍ أَوْ تَرْقَىٰ فِي السَّمَاءِ وَلَن نُّؤْمِنَ لِرُقِيِّكَ حَتَّىٰ تُنَزِّلَ عَلَيْنَا كِتَابًا نَّقْرَؤُهُ قُلْ سُبْحَانَ رَبِّي هَلْ كُنتُ إِلَّا بَشَرًا رَّسُولًا Or you should have a house of gold, or you should ascend into heaven, and we will not believe in your ascending until you bring down to us a book which we may read. Say: Glory be to my Lord; am I aught but a mortal apostle? (English - Shakir) Surah Al-Isra, Verse 94: وَمَا مَنَعَ النَّاسَ أَن يُؤْمِنُوا إِذْ جَاءَهُمُ الْهُدَىٰ إِلَّا أَن قَالُوا أَبَعَثَ اللَّهُ بَشَرًا رَّسُولًا And nothing prevented people from believing when the guidance came to them except that they said: What! has Allah raised up a mortal to be an apostle? (English - Shakir) Surah Al-Isra, Verse 95: قُل لَّوْ كَانَ فِي الْأَرْضِ مَلَائِكَةٌ يَمْشُونَ مُطْمَئِنِّينَ لَنَزَّلْنَا عَلَيْهِم مِّنَ السَّمَاءِ مَلَكًا رَّسُولًا Say: Had there been in the Earth angels walking about as settlers, We would certainly have sent down to them from the heaven an angel as an apostle. (English - Shakir)
  4. Where you have the choice? Lets ask from Qur'an: إِنَّا هَدَيْنَاهُ السَّبِيلَ إِمَّا شَاكِرًا وَإِمَّا كَفُورًا {3} [Shakir 76:3] Surely We have shown him the way: he may be thankful or unthankful. Shown you the "Sabeel" and then given you the choice to be shakir or kafir. This verse alone can give the answer to all of your questions, if you continue to ponder over it. And I do want you to ponder over these blessed verses so that you can learn and find the answers of your questions. If you read the verse 1 & 2 of the same chapter, you will come to know how wrong you're. Your limited worldly existence itself is evidence against your such thoughts. هَلْ أَتَىٰ عَلَى الْإِنْسَانِ حِينٌ مِنَ الدَّهْرِ لَمْ يَكُنْ شَيْئًا مَذْكُورًا {1} [Shakir 76:1] There surely came over man a period of time when he was a thing not worth mentioning. إِنَّا خَلَقْنَا الْإِنْسَانَ مِنْ نُطْفَةٍ أَمْشَاجٍ نَبْتَلِيهِ فَجَعَلْنَاهُ سَمِيعًا بَصِيرًا {2} [Shakir 76:2] Surely We have created man from a small life-germ uniting (itself): We mean to try him, so We have made him hearing, seeing. So instead of filing a case against God, you better know what that God has a case against you, and that case is mentioned in the following verse: قُلْ هُوَ الَّذِي أَنْشَأَكُمْ وَجَعَلَ لَكُمُ السَّمْعَ وَالْأَبْصَارَ وَالْأَفْئِدَةَ ۖ قَلِيلًا مَا تَشْكُرُونَ {23} [Shakir 67:23] Say: He it is Who brought you into being and made for you the ears and the eyes and the hearts: little is it that you give thanks. See the matter again connected with the verse 3 of chapter 76, (Imma shakiran wa imma kafoora) as Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) has said "qaleelan ma tashkaroon" Lets see the two creation for a while and get the answer from your heart and share with us what your heart responded. One creation is Hussain (عليه السلام), the other is Yazid (Laeen). I hope that you are familiar with these two creations and their actions. Actually your idea would be considered as nonsensical if you think that God would not punish the oppressor, the zalim from above two created beings. It is very sensible, rational that the oppressor from the above two must get the punishment. Do you really know what will happen on that "Day"? The one whom you are calling as "loved one" will not be your loved one. Lets see the "loved ones" first: الْأَخِلَّاءُ يَوْمَئِذٍ بَعْضُهُمْ لِبَعْضٍ عَدُوٌّ إِلَّا الْمُتَّقِينَ {67} [Shakir 43:67] The friends shall on that day be enemies one to another, except those who guard (against evil). يَوْمَ يَفِرُّ الْمَرْءُ مِنْ أَخِيهِ وَأُمِّهِ وَأَبِيهِ وَصَاحِبَتِهِ وَبَنِيهِ لِكُلِّ امْرِئٍ مِنْهُمْ يَوْمَئِذٍ شَأْنٌ يُغْنِيهِ 80:34-37) The day on which a man shall fly from his brother, And his mother and his father, And his spouse and his son-- Every man of them shall on that day have an affair which will occupy him. Do you know why the friends becomes enemy? Why the loved ones fly from each other on that day? What would they be expecting or asking from each other? Whatever I have shared above (the verses of Qur'an) is the knowledge of the unseen. You have the news and you have every information you require to save yourself from the painful punishment. You have everything with you sufficient for opening of your eyes and correction of your actions. You just need to act accordingly, you always have two options "Imma shakiran wa imma kafoora" and these two options will come after the guidance becomes manifest to you. You must chose to be among the thankful one. May Almighty Lord have mercy on you and guide you. Wassalam.
  5. :bismillah:

    Surah Al-Maeda, Verse 74:

    أَفَلَا يَتُوبُونَ إِلَى اللَّهِ وَيَسْتَغْفِرُونَهُ وَاللَّهُ غَفُورٌ رَّحِيمٌ Will they not then turn to Allah and ask His forgiveness? And Allah is Forgiving, Merciful. (English - Shakir)

  6. "O God! I ask you to give me conviction; in this way, you will make the hardships of the world seem easy." (Imam Sajjad (عليه السلام)) 
    Mizan Al-Hikmah V10, P788

  7. I hope that by "a person" you mean any marja, "their beliefs" would mean his belief, "they must be wrong" mean he must be wrong. If this is your real argument, then you're advocating that there should be no certainty in "beliefs".
  8. Please elaborate what do you mean by "things" here? Are you talking about religious rulings here? For newly evolved things they do ijtihaad.
  9. Then who are the mithl of وَلاَ الضَّالِّينَ ? But lets see who are dhaleen as per Qur'an: نَّ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا بَعْدَ إِيمَانِهِمْ ثُمَّ ازْدَادُوا كُفْرًا لَنْ تُقْبَلَ تَوْبَتُهُمْ وَأُولَٰئِكَ هُمُ الضَّالُّونَ {90} [Shakir 3:90] Surely, those who disbelieve a,fter their believing, then increase in unbelief, their repentance shall not be accepted, and these are they that go astray. So do you think that Prophet was a Kafir or a Mushrik (na'uzobillah) in anywhere in his life time? And how do you describe what is meant by Prophet being dhaleen?
  10. So the Islam we are learning is not perfect (Kamil). Is this you want to say?
  11. That's the title of this thread "Offensive Jijad under infallible Imam only". Qur'an & Prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) both are infallible and the Imams from Ahlul Bayt (عليه السلام) too
  12. I am 100% agree with you here. Prophet is not God but a person who is given a perfect religion (kamil deen) and then given the responsibility to teach that, these two demands that the person should be infallible. "ma dhalla sahibokum wama ghawa"
  13. Actually it is mentioned in the tafseer of chapter Al-Adiyaat [Shakir 100:3] Then those that make raids at morn, Enemy is not moving but they do planned to launch surprise attack and raised army for that. The response from Muslims was a sort of preemptive strike. I think it can come under offense because you have questioned who will attack first.
  14. He breathed into him the Spirit (Rooh) which is divine command (Qulir-Rooho min amr-e-Rabbi).Obviously we are not Allah But I think otherwise وَمَا كَانَ لِنَفْسٍ أَنْ تُؤْمِنَ إِلَّا بِإِذْنِ اللَّهِ Therefore Prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) is infallible because he is the bearer of the noor we know as Noor Allah. وَلَكِن جَعَلْنَاهُ نُورًا نَّهْدِي بِهِ مَنْ نَّشَاء مِنْ عِبَادِنَا وَإِنَّكَ لَتَهْدِي إِلَى صِرَاطٍ مُّسْتَقِيمٍ 42:52
  15. "The tribes of Bani Salim raised a huge army to launch a surprise attack on Madina in order to kill the believers and arrest the Holy Prophet. The Holy Prophet, after receiving the information, sent one of his companions along with a party of Muslim warriors to prevent the planned attack" Perhaps this is the example with us for offensive Jihad!
  16. The parable as mentioned in the verse mentions Mishkaat, Misbah, Zujaj, etc. Are we (all humans) the mithl of "La Sharqiyah wala Gharbiyyah"? Secondly, When we say our noor, you also need to elaborate a bit, are you talking about noor-e-emaan which will move ahead of us or on the right side on the promised day?
  17. But this seems to me wrong according to Ayah-e-Nur.
  18. Indeed we need to mention it whenever discussing the companions "the true companions". So do you think that the Al-Hadi on these two days (I.e, day when he threw peebles, the day when he took allegiance under the tree) appeared (as He is Al-Zahir) before us as Noor-e-Muhammad (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم)?
  19. Hindu do believe in one God, and they have different names Eshwar, Bhagwaan, Prabhu etc. Lets see the story of Adam and eve which they claim present in their book: Isn't it weird? Lots of problems in this story and their concept of God too.
  20. Salamun Alaikum!! There is a famous hadith "Awwalo ma khalaq Allaho noori" (Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) has created my noor first). There is another hadith which mentions "Kunto nabiyyan wa Adama baynal maa'e watteen" (I was the Prophet when Adam was between the stage of water & clay). The hadith which mentions that Prophet and Ali were created from the same noor is authentic. Following link provides detailed analysis of hadeeth e noor https://www.seratonline.com/22355/analysis-of-the-tradition-of-light-hadis-e-nur-part-1/
  21. I can discuss this matter in more detail and can share with you more information. But not at the moment, right now, I am continue my focus on the matter I am discussing. So it is Madinatul ilm (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم), who is mentioning the merits of his companion. And he (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) equalizing him with a Ma'soom in modesty and austerity. It is a lesson for us that anyone from us who strive to achieve self purification & struggle in the way of Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) can achieve the status equals to Prophets in any field. Now lets get back to Qur'an, who are the ulil azm Prophets? Nuh (عليه السلام), Ibrahim (عليه السلام), Musa (عليه السلام), Isa (عليه السلام) and Muhammad (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم), lets see the story of one ulil azm Prophet (Musa (عليه السلام)) from Qur'an: فَوَجَدَا عَبْدًا مِنْ عِبَادِنَا آتَيْنَاهُ رَحْمَةً مِنْ عِنْدِنَا وَعَلَّمْنَاهُ مِنْ لَدُنَّا عِلْمًا {65} [Shakir 18:65] Then they found one from among Our servants whom We had granted mercy from Us and whom We had taught knowledge from Ourselves. قَالَ لَهُ مُوسَىٰ هَلْ أَتَّبِعُكَ عَلَىٰ أَنْ تُعَلِّمَنِ مِمَّا عُلِّمْتَ رُشْدًا {66} [Shakir 18:66] Musa said to him: Shall I follow you on condition that you should teach me right knowledge of what you have been taught? قَالَ إِنَّكَ لَنْ تَسْتَطِيعَ مَعِيَ صَبْرًا {67} [Shakir 18:67] He said: Surely you cannot have patience with me This is the story of Khidr (عليه السلام) & Musa (عليه السلام). Was Khidr (عليه السلام) mentioned as a Ulil Azm Nabi? Yet he seems to be more knowledgeable and hence placed on greater level of patience as compared to the Ulil Azm Nabi. Interestingly, Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) has introduced him as "one from among my servants" (Abdan min ibadena) just like He has used similar words for Prophet Isa (عليه السلام) in the following verse: إِنْ هُوَ إِلَّا عَبْدٌ أَنْعَمْنَا عَلَيْهِ وَجَعَلْنَاهُ مَثَلًا لِبَنِي إِسْرَائِيلَ {59} [Shakir 43:59] He was naught but a servant on whom We bestowed favor, and We made him an example for the children of Israel. Now get back to the verse 4:69 and see again its content and try to understand why I was saying in response to the "absurd" question: who is superior Isa (عليه السلام) or Abbas (عليه السلام)? وَمَنْ يُطِعِ اللَّهَ وَالرَّسُولَ فَأُولَٰئِكَ مَعَ الَّذِينَ أَنْعَمَ اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِمْ مِنَ النَّبِيِّينَ وَالصِّدِّيقِينَ وَالشُّهَدَاءِ وَالصَّالِحِينَ ۚ وَحَسُنَ أُولَٰئِكَ رَفِيقًا So who knows exactly that who has been granted greater in'am? Obviously only Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) knows that. What I know is that Abbas (عليه السلام) has indeed obeyed Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) and Apostle (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) and has sacrificed his life as well as the adornment of this worldly life "fee sabilillah". I am neither a Prophet nor a scholar to give any religious verdict, I am just a student who is holding the thaqalain in my hands and I do read them and try to understand them with my limited knowledge. I do reserve the right to differ in opinion with any of my respected scholars. I have my own mind and own way of analyzing the information. Nowhere I have mentioned the overall superiority of hazrat Abbas (عليه السلام) over any Prophet, instead I am continuously maintaining the "had-e-adab" while discussing the merits of ma'soom and ghayr-e-ma'soom. No one become mo'min if he does not believe in the Prophethood of Isa (عليه السلام), no mo'min can ever deny that he is Kalimatullah, Ruhullah etc. What I have learned from my studies is that the most beloved title to almost every Prophet including Prophet Muhammad (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم), is the title of "Abd". Isa (عليه السلام) is Abd, Muhammad (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) is Abd, Ahlul Bayt are Abd and in this "Abdiyaat", Hazrat Abbas (عليه السلام) has secured his name and our Imams have called him "Abd-us Saleh". I don't know what in'am Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) will grant him for his "be-mithl" service and sacrifice and sincerity, whether it will greater than Isa (عليه السلام) or lesser, greater than Musa (عليه السلام) or lesser etc. What I know for sure is that it will be less than Prophet Muhammad (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) and his Ahlul Bayt (عليه السلام) I think I have repeated and elaborated with full politeness, whatever I have said earlier. I am now out of this thread and will not respond here. Wassalam
  22. Yes that is God, the One who threw peebles, the One upon whom hand companions pledged allegiance.
  23. Replying without even reading and watching the references!!
  24. Imamate has been mentioned as a divine covenant in Qur'an. Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) took the test of Prophet Ibrahim (عليه السلام) prior to granting him the Imamah. Surah Al-Baqara, Verse 124: وَإِذِ ابْتَلَىٰ إِبْرَاهِيمَ رَبُّهُ بِكَلِمَاتٍ فَأَتَمَّهُنَّ قَالَ إِنِّي جَاعِلُكَ لِلنَّاسِ إِمَامًا قَالَ وَمِن ذُرِّيَّتِي قَالَ لَا يَنَالُ عَهْدِي الظَّالِمِينَ And when his Lord tried Ibrahim with certain words, he fulfilled them. He said: Surely I will make you an Imam of men. Ibrahim said: And of my offspring? My covenant does not include the unjust, said He. (English - Shakir)
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