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Urwatul Wuthqa

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  1. I would also like to bring more verses into your consideration which are mentioning the verbal cursing: وَالَّذِينَ يَرْمُونَ أَزْوَاجَهُمْ وَلَمْ يَكُنْ لَهُمْ شُهَدَاءُ إِلَّا أَنْفُسُهُمْ فَشَهَادَةُ أَحَدِهِمْ أَرْبَعُ شَهَادَاتٍ بِاللَّهِ ۙ إِنَّهُ لَمِنَ الصَّادِقِينَ {6} [Shakir 24:6] And (as for) those who accuse their wives and have no witnesses except themselves, the evidence of one of these (should be taken) four times, bearing Allah to witness that he is most surely of the truthful ones. وَالْخَامِسَةُ أَنَّ لَعْنَتَ اللَّهِ عَلَيْهِ إِنْ كَانَ مِنَ الْكَاذِبِينَ {7} [Shakir 24:7] And the fifth (time) that the curse of Allah be on him if he is one of the liars.
  2. The following is the clear answer He is One because He is the One on whom all depends. Why all depends on Him? Because He begets not nor is He begotten and that's why none is like Him. A single proposition (Say: He, Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى), is Ahad) supported by 3 logically & rationally valid reasons.
  3. Please elaborate how it strengthens your point while it is mentioning yet another meaning of la'n which is in the sense of tabarra. I don't think he has even compared the act of God with our actions whether it is La'nah or whether it be Yusallona. In the case of La'n he has taken the meaning of tabarra and that's what he has explained in his tafseer as under: Secondly, you cannot say that anyone's (from common person's) act of la'n is just a verbal declaration. I don't really think it is the correct assertion if we consider the meaning of "Yal'an" derived from 29:25. That verbal supplication of la'n is followed by the actions like disliking, not following the commands, not referring to the cursed person, not helping him nor taking help from him in any matter etc. I dislike a character so I do not give the name of that disliked personality to my offspring, will not follow his commands or directives or seerat, these will be my action. It is another fact that only God can throw anyone out of His mercy. His mercy has encircled everything He has made obligatory on Himself mercy. So anyone other than Him need to supplicate to Him for invoking the curse hence would use the term Allahumma al'an. Here you indeed have raised some interesting points about "Yusalluna". I would love to see and further discuss the points you have left for some other time . At the mo'ment I would just limit my self to understand the concept of la'n.
  4. This argument of Agha Poya seems valid as compared to yours @Ibn al-Hussain How does He (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) bless (yusalloon) the Prophet? It is only for us to recite the durood like this "Allahumma sallay ala Muhammad wa Aal e Muhammad".
  5. According to a hadith from Al-Kafi, the meaning of la'n here is as follows: "Then, on the Day of Judgment, some of you would be denying others and would be cursing each other [29:25] - ‘Meaning, they would be disavowing from each other’"
  6. And what would be your explanation for a hadith which mentions something like that the persons sending la'nah on each other, their la'nah ascend to Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) and He will decide, the lanah will fall on one who deserves it. I will try to find that hadith and will share it here.
  7. Thank you for your response, I would like you to also shed some light on the following verse: ثُمَّ يَوْمَ الْقِيَامَةِ يَكْفُرُ بَعْضُكُم بِبَعْضٍ وَيَلْعَنُ بَعْضُكُم بَعْضًا 29:25 but then, on Resurrection Day, you shall disown one another and curse one another - Here is the complete verse: Surah Al-Ankaboot, Verse 25: وَقَالَ إِنَّمَا اتَّخَذْتُم مِّن دُونِ اللَّهِ أَوْثَانًا مَّوَدَّةَ بَيْنِكُمْ فِي الْحَيَاةِ الدُّنْيَا ثُمَّ يَوْمَ الْقِيَامَةِ يَكْفُرُ بَعْضُكُم بِبَعْضٍ وَيَلْعَنُ بَعْضُكُم بَعْضًا وَمَأْوَاكُمُ النَّارُ وَمَا لَكُم مِّن نَّاصِرِينَ And he said: You have only taken for yourselves idols besides Allah by way of friendship between you in this world's life, then on the resurrection day some of you shall deny others, and some of you shall curse others, and your abode is the fire, and you shall not have any helpers. (English - Shakir) What is the meaning of la'nah here? And how do they la'n each other? Practically throwing one another out of the mercy of Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) or they will be praying "Allahumma al'an"?
  8. What would be the tafseer and ta'veel of phrase وَيَلْعَنُهُمُ اللَّاعِنُونَ? This verse is mentioning the worldly life and the evidence for this is the very next verse: إِلَّا الَّذِينَ تَابُوا وَأَصْلَحُوا وَبَيَّنُوا فَأُولَٰئِكَ أَتُوبُ عَلَيْهِمْ ۚ وَأَنَا التَّوَّابُ الرَّحِيمُ Please do not think that I am arguing here, its just a query.
  9. Just see the words of Imam Ali (عليه السلام)
  10. Please give reference of this hadith. (Meharbani farma kar is hadith ka hawala bayan farma dijiye) Mutafarriq jaghoon se mangne k bajaye aap kyoun nahi Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) se mangte Aimma e Tahireen ka hawala de k? Allahumma behaqqe Muhammad wa ant' Al-Mehmood Allahumma behaqqe Ali wa ant' Al-A'la Allahumma behaqqe Fatima wa anta Fatir-us-samawate wal ard Allahumma behaqqe Hassan wa ant' Al-Mohsin Allahumma behaqqe Hussain wa anta Qadeem ul Ahsaan
  11. Perhaps you forgot to see the following verse: إِنَّ الَّذِينَ يَكْتُمُونَ مَا أَنْزَلْنَا مِنَ الْبَيِّنَاتِ وَالْهُدَىٰ مِنْ بَعْدِ مَا بَيَّنَّاهُ لِلنَّاسِ فِي الْكِتَابِ ۙ أُولَٰئِكَ يَلْعَنُهُمُ اللَّهُ وَيَلْعَنُهُمُ اللَّاعِنُونَ {159} [Shakir 2:159] Surely those who conceal the clear proofs and the guidance that We revealed after We made it clear in the Book for men, these it is whom Allah shall curse, and those who curse shall curse them (too). [Pickthal 2:159] Lo! Those who hide the proofs and the guidance which We revealed, after We had made it clear to mankind in the Scripture: such are accursed of Allah and accursed of those who have the power to curse. [Yusufali 2:159] Those who conceal the clear (Signs) We have sent down, and the Guidance, after We have made it clear for the people in the Book,-on them shall be Allah's curse, and the curse of those entitled to curse,- Agha Poya has mentioned this in the tafseer of this verse:
  12. So in any case, it is either an invented thing or a misunderstanding. So viewing battle of Jamal, those who fought from the side of A'isha got one reward and those who fought from the side of Imam Ali (عليه السلام) got two rewards. Would not this put into question the Adalat of Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى)?
  13. And in light of traditions like these:
  14. How can brothers of Ahlul Sunnah prove their concept of "Adalat as-Sahaba" in light of battles of Jamal & Siffin?
  15. I am surprised to see that in Islam, people are still want to debate the Wasilah!!! While the very first chapter of Qur'an which every Muslim recite many times daily in prayers, possess the following verses: اهْدِنَا الصِّرَاطَ الْمُسْتَقِيمَ Keep us/Show us/Guide us to straight path. صِرَاطَ الَّذِينَ أَنْعَمْتَ عَلَيْهِمْ غَيْرِ الْمَغْضُوبِ عَلَيْهِمْ وَلَا الضَّالِّينَ The way of those on whom Thou hast bestowed Thy Grace, those whose (portion) is not wrath, and who go not astray. Has he ever considered what actually he asks from God? Its the wasilah!!! I can see when most of the people were reminded to "Obey" Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) & the Prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم), they start finding their ways, trying to behave like they're accepting some commands & rejecting some commands of Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) and His Apostle (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم). They even start counting their Nabi (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) in those who were astray at any point in his life, they start denying the sermon of Ghadir or if they are accepting it, start trying to twist the meaning of mowla etc etc.... Dr.. Ammar is a learned person, even a layman from among Shia can defeat these sort of Nawasibs easily.
  16. Alaikas-Salam, Excuse me brother for taking your translation, I do believe you are not the proponent of this view. I have just quoted it as a reference. Wassalam.
  17. The person is a "Mufti" (perhaps "Mufta" would be more suitable for him) in Pakistan and he is speaking Urdu, the key points have been translated by me. Well thank you for opposing that, but you need to let us know why? Just because he is telling the truth or because of his telling lies? There can be one reason out of these two. He has called us Rafidi, which according to them, means kafir and which automatically means impure (Najis). Why you say he is a fitnah monger? Just because he is telling the truth or because of his telling lies? I need you to answer this. Actually I wrote "Rehmatullah Aalaih" not "Radiallaho Aanh". In that lecture shared by me, the speaker not only mentioned his definition of kuft I.e., Adalat as-Sahaba (Justice of Companions) but he also gave reference of a hypocrite Muawiyah (Laeen) and quoted words of "Ibn Abbas" for him "Dahun fainnahu faqeeh". There must be any solid reason with you to condemn him, there can be only two options with you which are: 1. Either you conclude that the person is telling the truth, in that case you don't need to condemn him for speaking the truth. 2. Either you conclude that the person is telling lies, in that case you have every right to condemn him. Is it the definition of Kuft that anyone who reject the concept of adalat as-sahaba is a kafir? Is this definition true? Were all the companions Adil (Just)? Is this statement true? Is it the case that Muawiyah (Laeen) was a faqeeh or can be considered as "Adil" (Just)? Regarding the statement of Ayatullah Khomeini ((رضي الله عنه)), and I quote I would like to present few verses of Qur'an: إِنَّ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا مِنْ أَهْلِ الْكِتَابِ وَالْمُشْرِكِينَ فِي نَارِ جَهَنَّمَ خَالِدِينَ فِيهَا ۚ أُولَٰئِكَ هُمْ شَرُّ الْبَرِيَّةِ {6} [Shakir 98:6] Surely those who disbelieve from among the followers of the Book and the polytheists shall be in the fire of hell, abiding therein; they are the worst of men. [Pickthal 98:6] Lo! those who disbelieve, among the People of the Scripture and the idolaters, will abide in fire of hell. They are the worst of created beings. [Yusufali 98:6] Those who reject (Truth), among the People of the Book and among the Polytheists, will be in Hell-Fire, to dwell therein (for aye). They are the worst of creatures. وَلَقَدْ ذَرَأْنَا لِجَهَنَّمَ كَثِيرًا مِنَ الْجِنِّ وَالْإِنْسِ ۖ لَهُمْ قُلُوبٌ لَا يَفْقَهُونَ بِهَا وَلَهُمْ أَعْيُنٌ لَا يُبْصِرُونَ بِهَا وَلَهُمْ آذَانٌ لَا يَسْمَعُونَ بِهَا ۚ أُولَٰئِكَ كَالْأَنْعَامِ بَلْ هُمْ أَضَلُّ ۚ أُولَٰئِكَ هُمُ الْغَافِلُونَ {179} [Shakir 7:179] And certainly We have created for hell many of the jinn and the men; they have hearts with which they do not understand, and they have eyes with which they do not see, and they have ears with which they do not hear; they are as cattle, nay, they are in worse errors; these are the heedless ones. [Pickthal 7:179] Already have We urged unto hell many of the jinn and humankind, having hearts wherewith they understand not, and having eyes wherewith they see not, and having ears wherewith they hear not. These are as the cattle - nay, but they are worse! These are the neglectful. [Yusufali 7:179] Many are the Jinns and men we have made for Hell: They have hearts wherewith they understand not, eyes wherewith they see not, and ears wherewith they hear not. They are like cattle,- nay more misguided: for they are heedless (of warning). Those who fought wars with the "purified ones" according to Qur'an (33:33) are not impure? What do you think? Those who fought wars with the best of creatures (khayrul bariyyah خَيْرُ الْبَرِيَّةِ), are not the worst of creatures (شَرُّ الْبَرِيَّةِ)?
  18. It is obvious that if they try to stop Iranian oil exports, Iran will retaliate. Perhaps we are going to see a war now. May Almighty Lord protect Islamic Republic & grant them the toufeeq to handle this crisis and grant them the victory against the evil forces.
  19. The following video is sufficient where a Sunni scholar is mentioning that every Shia of present day is a rafidi and is therefore kafir. He is also describing the very definition of "kufr" as per the Ahlul Sunnah I.e., rejection of the concept of adalat as-sahaba" is the very foundation of kufr according to their prominent scholars. He also gave references from Ayatullah Khomeini ((رضي الله عنه)) books namely kashaf al-israar & saheefa e noor.
  20. Alaikas-Salam Akhi, Lets first note that it were the scholars from opponent sect who made such claims. Following is the references available on wikipedia too: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunni_fatwas_on_Shias Now coming back to your point, why would you call him a fitna monger? Just because he is telling the truth? Or because of his telling lies?
  21. 12-13 years back, when I had selected a house available on rent for my family, I met with the landlord and introduced myself to him. He asked me, after listening my name, "are you Shia", I said yes I am. He said sorry, we can rentout our house to any Hindu but never toany Shia. 10-11 years back, I was invited in a birthday party of my collegue, we gathered at his house after maghrib prayers but he was not present at home. After some time when he came back, we complaint that he invited us and himself were absent. So he told us that the Imam of mosque, after finishing maghrib prayers, started a lecture and in that he mentioned a very interesting thing which I have noted carefully. Another collegue asked him about that interesting thing, he said Imam has mentioned that it is allowed to eat and drink with any dog but it is forbidden to eat or drink with any Shia. I steped up and said so that means I should leave because I am a Shia. And I came back home.
  22. I have seen all those definitions brother. I am just saying that instead of "When" the sunsets they should delay it a bit to make it "After" the sunsets. When the sun sets implying the "moment" the sun sets which is impossible for anyone to predict with 100% accuracy. The standard again is the appearance of darkness form the east. I suggest you to do the experiment tonight, just look at the eastern sky at the time of their aftar time. Inform me if you found the darkness there .
  23. Sunni brothers have a different story with them. Lets see one: "Al-Bukhaari (1955) and Muslim (1101) narrated that ‘Abd-Allaah ibn Abi Awfa (may Allah be pleased with him) said: We were with the Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) on a journey and he was fasting. When the sun set, he said (command #1) to one of the people: O So and so, get up and make saweeq for us (mix it with water so that we can drink it). He said O Messenger of Allah, why not wait till the evening? He said: (command # 2) Dismount and make saweeq for us. He said: O Messenger of Allah, why not wait till the evening? He said: (Command # 3) Dismount and make saweeq for us. He said: It is still day. He said: (Command # 4) Dismount and make saweeq for us. So he dismounted and made saweeq for them, and the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) drank it, then he said: When you see that night has come from here, then let the fasting person break his fast." https://islamqa.info/en/answers/110407/fasting-lasts-until-the-sun-sets-and-is-not-as-some-of-the-shiah-say
  24. It reminds me a hadith of Imam Ali (عليه السلام) in which he said: "If veils were removed, my certainty would not increase." Only a Qur'an-e-Natiq can claim such thing, this is the Haqqul Yaqeen.
  25. According to the tafsir of Ibn-e-Kathir for the verse 2:187 "Then complete your fast till the nightfall", he said it implies that breaking the fast at the "MOMENT" of sunset is a shar'I rule. I think most of the Sunni's practice the same thing. Question is that can we precisely calculate the "Moment" of sunset? What would happen if anyone err in determining that very moment? Obviously any error in determining the moment of sunset and breaking the fast according to it would invalidate the fast. Here then comes the clause of "obligatory precaution" as we need to guard our act of worship and we need to make sure that we have entered into the due time frame of breaking the fast. This is the main difference as we cannot even scientifically predict the precise sunset moment anywhere in the world. This is yet another proof that science do agrees with the Shia maghrib/iftar time.
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