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In the Name of God بسم الله


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  1. I love seeing countries for myself. I was in Iran for almost a month late last year and learned so much more about that country and its problems by being there and talking to real Iranians than I ever could by reading newspapers and listening to the radio. On Sunday I'm off to Israel for a week for the first time. I'll be spending most of the time chilling in Eilat, but I'm going to do a 2 day sight-seeing trip to Jerusalem. As few Muslims ever get to go to Israel, and fewer have ever met or spoken to a real, live Israeli, I was wondering if there were any sensible questions anyone would put t
  2. Sorry I've annoyed you. I know you don't have to even answer any of my questions and I'm genuinely grateful that you have. The definition of "innocent" has often been tailored by people of all faiths to justify killing civilians. This was the reason for me being so pedantic. Path2Felicity, you have to understand that I live in Europe where even Imams are regularly caught out, twisting their words to appear to be peace and democracy loving citizens to the general public before being secretly taped saying what they really mean. I’m here to learn something. Thanks for enlightening me.
  3. Thank you for responding. I'm trying to learn. You've helped me understand something.
  4. I think you're being unfair Path2Felicity. I'm not trying to twist anyone’s words. But I find it strange that so few Muslims are willing to come out and say "I believe that suicide bombing is wrong, period". I think that the vast majority of people of other faiths would be unequivocal about it But not it would seem Muslims. Is that not a noteworthy difference in values worth discussing?
  5. So does that mean that you disagree that suicide bombing is a route into your "martyrdom"? I'm not sure we're disagreeing. And you don't need to beat me over the head with Israel's actions. I’m no apologist for them. I think they behaved appallingly, as did Hezbollah by using the civilian population as cover in the first place.
  6. Your answer is ambiguous because the term “innocent” is subjective. At university I was actually a member of a pro-Palestinian group called ‘The Friends of Palestine”. I left in disgust and ceased to sympathise with the Palestinian cause when I learned most of the Palestinian members of that organisation believed that no Israeli citizen is 'innocent' and therefore all can be legitimately killed because Israel has national service. I’ve seen similar arguments used in Shia Chat. So forgive me if I’m still unclear about whether or not, as a Muslim, you think that suicide bombing is a route to ma
  7. If you asked a Christian to describe Martyrdom, they would tell you that it is dying, peacefully and without resistance, for ones beliefs. Only in Islam it is taken to mean dying whilst killing others. And yes, Israel did target civilian buildings, for reasons you are fully aware of. Hezbollah hide in the civilian population. They fire rockets from the top of civilian buildings. The Israelis took steps to warn the civilians to evacuate the areas before bombing civilian buildings. I often feel uncomfortable about the behaviour of Israel, but I accept that even they take precautions to avoid TAR
  8. Are we disagreeing? Didn’t I accept that the concept of martyrdom could be seen as honourable to the martyr's side? However, I started my post by stating that martyrdom means different things to different people. My problem is with suicide bombers and the fact that I often hear the term “martyr” used by Muslims to describe those people. Similarly, I’ve heard suicide bombings described as “martyrdom operations”, by Muslims, as I’m sure you have. And yes, every now and then, a Tamil Tiger blows themselves up. But let’s leave out the diversionary arguments; it’s a fact that Muslims have a virtua
  9. Of course they love living in the West. They just hate the West. When I was in primary school, there was this dirty kid from a dysfunctional family in my class. My Mom invited him to our house because she felt sorry for him. I tried to be kind to him, but all he did was mess up my room, steal stuff, beat me up and break my toys. Deep down, I think that there's some of that dirty kid from the dysfunctional family in many of the Muslims living in Europe. They like our 'house', but they want to destroy it. They want to make it the same as 'back home'. Then they won't feel inferior. It's sad, but
  10. Cool it. And what's with the personal insults? I'm on your side. I think Muslim societies should be left alone. "Yanks and Brits out of Iraq", that's what I say. Let Sunni and Shia kill each other. It's a bit like a 'self-cleaning' oven. Who knows, after a few centuries of being left alone in backwardness and violence, Muslims might finally progress enough spiritually and culturally to join the civilized world. What I don't like is Muslims coming to the West and lying that they like democracy and freedom, whereas lots of them, deep down, are filled with envy and violent hatred just like you 'U
  11. A martyr means different things to different people Path2Felicity? Let’s not bother with the ‘right’ and ‘wrong’ side arguments. Obviously, in most wars, most fighters believe they are fighting for the ‘right’ side. Let us consider only “honour”. I can imagine that a fighter who dies fighting armed combatants could be technically described as “honourable” or a ‘martyr’ by his ‘side’. But what about the guy who sneaks into a bakery or a café and blows himself up, deliberately TARGETING and killing unarmed non-combatants? Men, women and children? Is that "honourable" Path2Felicity? And before we
  12. I admire your honesty dude! ;) Now how about you convince your millions of bretheren living in Europe and America to be as honest as you've just been. Maybe it will be the motivation we need to begin kicking their militant asses out of our societies.
  13. Like many rabid Jew-haters, Greg would rather get into bed with the Devil than criticise other Jew-haters. You’ll find him supporting Holocaust deniers and Jewish conspiracy theorists just as comfortably as he defends suicide bombers. Greg, put your hatred to one side for a moment and think rationally. It takes courage to take responsibility for, and face up to one's actions. To endure pain, incarceration, fear and hardship for one’s beliefs takes strength and integrity. Blowing one’s self up requires none of the above. It really is the ultimate cowardly act. It is reported that many suicide
  14. This is sadly true. And shamefully, it wasn't any Europeans, it was the British who were the first to use 'germ warfare'. The only positive thing about this is that the British don't deny it and actually teach it in schools. Owning up to shameful episodes of one's history is a very European trait. I think it is something to do with confidence and striving to be better. It is part of growing and becoming more civilised. I find it facinating that much of the third world, Muslims included, prefer to believe 'alternative' histories where they were always the victim and never the perpetrator.
  15. Oh dear. Only when someone is bankrupt of rational debate do they turn to accusing others of being liars. The same people who accuse completely rational media and press reports of being "lies" preferring to believe irrational fairy stories and conspiracy theories. It is, sadly, too often the Muslim way. Lying is so against my culture and values 'repenter'. I don't do it, and if I did, then hell, don’t you think that I would make myself more interesting. And I'm not an engineer. I never said I was, not that it matters. My job means I travel a lot and sometimes I work with civil engineers. Somet
  16. I've never had any reason to go to Kish, but I did go to Shomal (Caspian Sea) for the post-Ramadan holiday (can't recall the name of the festival). It was the most frightening journey of my life, but let's not get into Iranian driving. The area is indeed very beautiful on the surface, as is much of Iran. But everywhere you went, every pavement, every beach, every mountain path, every small river was piled high with rubbish and filth. I've done "third world" before in India, Sri Lanka, Egypt and sub-Saharan Africa. Iran beats them all for filth and broken roads, not to mention the toilets! :si
  17. The only way I know how to perceive the world is through reliable media, respectable books and personal interaction. Believe it or not DjibrilCisse, I am far more open-minded than you would think. I've been to Iran. I know what I saw. I know what I heard. No, I did not speak to every person in that country, but the experience and views of people I spoke to absolutely supported what I had read and heard in the media. Now the debate shouldn’t be about the undeniable fact that Iran is a corrupt and dysfunctional hell-hole. That is a simple fact. The debate should be whether it is the way it is be
  18. Am I the only person here who ever visits and does work in Iran? I was there for nearly a month last autumn. It is a thoroughly backward, third-world country, with a level of official incompetence and corruption to embarrass sub-Saharan Africa. I saw buildings being built that would be torn down as illegal by the most wretched African country. I saw roads built without drainage so they became rivers during heavy rain. A Dutch engineer and I spent hours laughing at the pitiful build quality of roads, buildings and even cars assembled in Iran. It has to bee seen to be believed. It makes a man wa
  19. Hey sixdays, chill. Arabs (and more recently Iranians) have been threatening to destroy Israel for decades. Try to understand their bravado. It must be pretty humiliating for them to constantly get their asses kicked by the same Jews they're brought up to consider as inferior, scheming, scum. Third-rate weaponry and a regular trickle 'shaheed' cowards exploding in bakeries and cafes is really nothing to get worked up about. p.s. Are you actually in Israel? I'm visiting for my first time in March. Is it safe to visit Jerusalem? How long is the trip from Eilat?
  20. I wonder what on earth possessed the Israelis to do such a paranoid and illegitimate thing! Fancy, killing a nuclear scientist, from a rabidly hostile country which funds and arms terrorist groups against you, which calls for you to be wiped off the face of the earth, while at the same time as trying to develop a nuclear capability. Those darned Israelis. Just wait until Iran gets REALLY cross and gets its revenge, with all its high tech weaponry and stuff. Grrrrr! :mad: (Sarcastic enough?) :P
  21. You're not going to believe this DjibrilCisse, but for once, I totally agree with you! There might be hope in this world yet. There is nothing whatsoever wrong with saying "most suicide bombers are Muslims". The teacher was right to say it, as long as it was not said in a way which (falsely) suggested that most Muslims are (or even support) suicide bombing. In fact everyone should be saying what the teacher said, especially Muslims themselves. Only then, can there be the discussion and debate necessary to establish whether suicide bombing is, or is not "Islamic". Suppressing truth by manufactu
  22. Ah, good old 'Muslim Logic'. I could't have wished for a better example of a Muslim to support my post. Rationality (which Muslims seem to lack) is the acceptance of truth, and understanding the difference between of the objective (factual reality) and the subjective (your opinion). First, the objective. All Catholics accept the FACT that some of their priests are paedophiles. It is discussed openly so that they may find a way to stop it happening. Second, the subjective. You think Zionists are bad. I don’t think they are any better, or worse, than Islamists. Both of us could find arguments
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