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Ali Haydar

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  1. The following link to Shi'ite Beliefs in the Bible includes a chapter on the word Ali and the word Muhammad in the Bible. http://www.scribd.com/doc/89969/Shii-in-bible
  2. Many Many Happy Returns of the Day.

    May Allah Bless you !

    Have a Blast.......Enjoy !!!!

  3. salam, happy birthday to you

  4. (salam) Dear Brother Yonus, The insurance company will pay for your car. If it doesn't, then I as the rammer would be responsible to pay for the damage I did. The death of Jesus (as), if it happened, does not pay for anything and does not fix anything. He could die a hundred times, and the insurance company would still have to pay for your car. And that is precisely what is wrong with Christian doctrine. It's unreasonable, irrational, emotionally-based, and simply false. This whole idea that crucifying somebody in the Middle East will fix everything is dangerous. It's not a matter of freedom to believe whatever you like. That particular belief costs lives. It played a part in the decision of the US to attack Afghanistan instead of repairing the damage in New York after 9/11. Irrational beliefs result in irrational actions, and irrational actions result in injustice. You're a nice guy, but you're playing with things more dangerous than you seem to realize.
  5. (salam) I agree with the others. The argument is far-fetched. You could use that argument to justify anything. But the results of research on the effects of music suggest that music affects people physiologically and psychologically in similar ways. It's completely irrelevant what feelings the individual reports. It's quite typical for a person to claim that a certain piece of music is calming, when all the instruments recording physiological effects are jumping like crazy, showing rise in blood pressure, galvanic skin response, heart rate, breathing rate, and other stress factors. It's like what Nazreddin said to his neighbour. The neighbour asks to borrow his donkey, and he says he already lent it to someone else and it's not at home. Just then the donkey in the stall starts braying and the neighbour says "But I hear your donkey inside." Nazreddin answers "Are you going to believe me or a donkey?" Reality betrays the effect of music. There is probably nothing today that is a greater danger to Islam than the intrusion of pop music. And Zaynab is right about the amount of literature, and it's not just Shi'ite literature. Farmer's bibliography of Islamic writings about music is a thick book in itself. Given that music is addictive though, it's futile to discuss it with anyone who listens to it. Addictions are not broken by rational discussion.
  6. (salam) Dear Brother Akhbar, Thanks so much for reading and appreciating. Dear Sister Zaynab, I had heard that hadith quoted, but not seen it written or sourced. Many thanks for alerting me to that thread and thanks to the one who posted it as well, ma sha Allah. The reference to Iliya is probably a reference to the name Eli in the Bible. It should not be confused with Elijah, Elias, Eliyahu, Ilyas, which is another name altogether. Some Islamic scholars have made that error. Interestingly, the name Eli in 1 Samuel 1ff is the name of the leader of Israel at the time of Samuel's birth. He was a true man of God and priest. He had two wicked sons whom he failed to correct and for this they were killed in battle and he himself on hearing the news fell backward and broke his neck and died. The Samaritans claim to follow the tradition of Saul (Talut) and reject Eli and David (as). So in Israelite faith there are two parties divided over the figure of Eli, just as in Islam there are two parties divided over the figure of Ali (as). The negative parallel between Eli's two sons and Ali's (as) is also interesting. It is as though the figure of Eli was a sort of prophecy of the coming Ali (as), and where he and his sons got it wrong, Ali (as) got it right. That kind of correction of history is found in the Bible elsewhere, as in the Pauline concept of Jesus (as) being the second Adam or the Son of Man, that is Son of Adam. Just as Christianity was supposed to get it right where Adam supposedly failed, so Ali (as) got it right where Eli failed. As for the name variations, this makes it difficult to be certain of references in the Bible. No doubt there are many that are obscure and ought to be found. I think the three clearest references in the books of Moses (as) are the ones quoted in earlier posts of this thread.
  7. (salam) Thanks for thanking. It's been a long time. Reference to the name Ali in the Bible does not appear to be very popular on this forum.
  8. (salam) Dear Brother Qa'im, It's discouraging that both Muslims and Christians seem to be incapable of understanding the significance of Eli, Eli lama sabachtani after having the matter presented to them time and again. The Gospel writer claims that Jesus (as) recited Psalm 22 on the cross. In those days Psalms were referred to by their titles, often the first words of the Psalm. This is the Aramaic title of Psalm 22, Eli, Eli, lama sabachtani. The writer of the Gospel chose this Psalm as being especially oppropriate for the occasion, not because of the title, but because of other content. Is this a hard thing to understand? Not for me. Apparently my mind works differently from that of Muslims and Christians generally. I've pointed this out at least four times in the last two weeks on this forum. Either people don't read my posts or just don't believe me. Nobody needs to believe me. It can be verified very easily by taking a look at Psalm 22 (Masoretic numbering and KJV numbering), and if that fails to satisfy, by taking a look at the Aramaic targum text of the Psalm. But if people don't want to verify it, ignoring what I say and going on with the abuse of the text is arrogance. There is enough tension between faiths and interpreters of faiths without muddying the waters. Knowing what this text actually is, the above use of it is abusive. The even more fantastic Islamic use of the text, the purported call to Imam Ali (as) for help, is also abusive. As long as people refuse to acknowledge the actual state of the texts, and knowingly force false interpretations on them, one cannot hope for clarity between faiths. It is a religious duty incumbent on all, Muslims, Christians, and Jews alike, to interpret the texts honestly and not abuse them.
  9. (salam) Dear Son of Placid, My views would be determined by my Comparative Religion approach. The gifts of the Spirit appear in the NT Acts and epistles in the context of the rise of the Christian sect. Their function is solely within that context. They are a Jewish phenomenon inspired by a popular reading mainly of the prophecy of Joel. The doctrine in Christianity has a different origin and function. It is based on ecstatic religious experience that is psychologically determined and typical of culturally deprived populations where it replaces professional spiritual leadership. Ecstatic behaviour exists in Islam as well. I observed glossalalia, speaking in tongues, among the Zar cult in Egypt in 1977 and again at the zikr at the Zaynul Abideen mosque in Cairo in the city of the dead in 1999. It was so noisy there, that I left early and did not see the end of it. Who knows what excesses were finally performed. But it follows the same demographic pattern as in Christianity. I have read about glossalalia in other religious traditions as well, but have not observed it The history of the beginnings of Christianity and Islam takes another course. Both the charismatic and apocalyptic emphases in Christianity seem to have diminished well before the fourth century. Christianity became the state cult of the empire with consequent enormous changes as the church brought in all sorts of beliefs and practices from paganism. By reaction, the monastic movement arose to try to preserve the earlier spirituality. The church took over theatrical traditions rather than charismatic ones. The monastic reaction prohibited all music and charismatic behaviour as well as the theatrical tradition that eventually became Byzantine liturgy. Psalms were read in an ordinary reading voice. This conservative, monastic reform that threw back in its own way to an earlier Christianity with synagogal influences (as opposed to temple liturgy) is an important strand in the development of Islam. Islam is a democratization of conservative Judaeo-Christian monastic resistence to especially the rise of the Monophysite heresy which emphasized the deity of Christ. Of course monasticism itself was soon co-opted by the official church. Do I understand correctly that you cannot be a Muslim because Muslims do not recognize the gifts of the Spirit? If so, I would say that the gifts of the Spirit appear to be evident in all of the religious traditions of the world. I realize that some Christians consider them evidence of divine intervention and a sign of validation of some churches or spiritual movements. But that view is dependent on ignorance of the fact that charismatic behaviour exists in all traditions.
  10. Dear Son of Placid, As I understand it, the people of the town of Calcata, where the last remaining "relic" of the "Son of God" was kept, displayed once a year on the Feast of the Circumcision on January 1, and worshipped and revered, are now accusing the Vatican of having stolen the holy godlet from them in 1983 for their own obscure and sinister purposes. Now I know what it's for. Papal chewing gum. One stick is a pleniary indulgence. God bless you for providing this holy opportunity for us here in Europe.
  11. (salam) Dear Brother Abdul-Rahman, That's a great court scene story. It reminds me of the one I usually tell Christians trying to convince me of Atonement. Let's suppose you steal my car, run it around, put a dent in it, become sorry you did it, repair it, refuel it and bring it back to me with an apology. "Can you ever forgive me?" you say. I answer, "I'd love to forgive you, but you'll have to kill my son first." It's not only injust, it's insane. I think Christians have misunderstood Matthew 27:46 as a cry of feeling forsaken. The sentence is the title of Psalm 22, and probably refers to Jesus (as) supposedly reciting that Psalm on the cross. But that does not diminish the validity of your point, which is well established in other texts as well as the choice of the Psalm.
  12. (salam) Dear Brother IloveImamHussain, Try the Wikipedia article "Holy Prepuce" and www.slate.com/id/2155745 for David Harley's article Who Stole Jesus' Foreskin? It's been stolen, but people want it back so they can keep worshipping it.
  13. (salam) Here is an innocent question for any Muslim considering converting to Christianity. Does it affect how you think about Christians to remember that as many as eighteen different churches in Europe have at one time or another claimed to have the same interesting relic for adoration? It is the foreskin of Jesus (as) duly set out on display to be worshipped as God Almighty. While I think there are a lot of problems with Islam, and especially with Muslims, no matter how bad it gets, it's not as bad as worshipping foreskins. That's basically the choice. Either stick with the Muslims, or join the foreskin worshippers.
  14. (salam) Dear Brother Qa'im, I think I could make a very good case for the Bible denying redemption and atonement as it is believed by Christians, and instead saying the actions you yourself commit in this life will be what you will be judged on. It was the Bible, which so strikingly conflicts with Christianity, and which in so many remarkable ways parallels Islam, that awakened my own interest in Islam. But it may have been unfortunate that I have pointed that out, if there are Muslims who draw the unwarrented conclusion that Christianity is a valid faith alternative to Islam. The longer I live, the more I think I should stay at home, keep my mouth shut, recite my Qur'an, and do my salaat.
  15. (salam) Dear Son of Placid, I'd like to know what it is that you know to be true that Muslims do not believe. Knowing something that Muslims do not believe, by the way, does not necessarily mean that you should not be a Muslim. The truth you know may not be relevent or important to faith. I'm not here to convert you to anything. God knows I'm hardly accepted by any established religion myself. My primary motivation is probably to find out if you know something I don't.
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