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Fatma Nur

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  1. Assalamu aleykum, I have a question: Can a person be Shia if they do not accept that the belief that the Imams (AS) are higher in status than all the Prophets (AS) (except for the Prophet Muhammad (SAWS))? I am not asking in order to start a debate (so please keep all comments respectful). I am asking because I am a Muslim convert and I lean more towards the Shia beliefs vs. Sunni beliefs in almost all matters except Imamate. I would like to know thoughts on the above question. If anyone can quote any Ayatollahs positions on this that would be really really helpful. JazakAllah khair.
  2. Agree. It's better to be balanced but the thing is as soon as you start trying to better yourself Shaytan is there in full force. And people often end up falling into the trap of becoming arrogant or (when they mess up) becoming hopeless and giving up altogether. Also, I see a lot of this in born/young Muslims that they'll be like 'alhamdullilah I was born Muslim so I can do whatever I like while I'm young and I'll practice when I'm older and if were to die first then I'll still die a believer so it doesn't matter'. This is the thinking I fell into after living in Turkey for a while and I believe it's another trap of Shaytan in order to distance believers from the religion.
  3. The above comments are true but I always wonder if they compared the number of practicing Christians vs practicing Muslims would we (Muslims) already be in the majority? I'm sure we would in certain areas of the UK and some other European counties at least. Also I saw a survey once where they questioned those who had identified as Christian (in the U.K. or maybe just England - can't remember) and a significant amount of those who identified as Christian didn't actually belief in basic tenets like the virgin birth of Jesus (AS)! The people conducting the research concluded that a lot of respondents were identifying with the faith on a purely cultural basis. I.E. I'm English so I must be CofE regardless of actual belief (this may be more common amongst older ppl?). Ive noticed a lot of my family do this too; they tick the Christian/CofE box on the census but their are actually agnostic and not even sure they believe in God ÓÈÍÇäå æÊÚÇáì at all. I acknowledge this may be a thing cultural Muslims do too but in my experience most non-practicing Muslims still believe in the basic tenets of Islam. My experience is mainly with those of Turkish descent though...
  4. I definitely experienced this myself. I wasn't to the extreme but when I first converted I probably wasn't that nice to be around! It's a shame as that was my family's first experience of Islam Although we have a great relationship now. I had an obsession on practicing the outward aspects while I did little to work on myself inwardly. I guess the outward stuff seemed easier to address. I also put it down to a combination of other things - being young (18 at the time), being passionate (I had just found Islam - the key to Jannah!) and also the influence of very literalist interpretations of the religion. Thankfully although I was only around a few practicing Muslims those Muslims were balanced in their views and my 'convert fever' didn't last long. The thing is I ended going extreme the other way for a while and didn't commit to practicing again until 4yrs ago.
  5. Assalamu aleykum Welcome, I am also a revert. Lovely story. I pray that you find a good support system inshaAllah. Stay strong
  6. Thank you for the material you gave me to read. I need some time to think over it before I come to any conclusions but it is very helpful to me as are the other discussions taking place here.
  7. Also Islam's view of God is very similar to your own in the sense that we also don't believe Him to be a human like being. We believe that we can never imagine what God is like because our finite intelligence could never comprehend something infinite/eternal. God is the all-knowing, all-seeing, all-aware who is the creator but not created. When terms such as God's hand are used in the Quran they are used allegorically. The literalist/wahabi understanding of this may differ but as far as I am aware this is the traditional Muslim understanding. This is touched upon in the following interview
  8. Assalamu aleykum, Welcome. I am a revert of 10 years but I unfortunately don't know too much about Shia Islam to be able to answer your question in any depth. I do know that there are both shia and sunni sufi tariqas (orders). However, I am unsure of their legitimacy according to Shia scholars. Either way you are likely to get a range of responses depending on the inclination of the people answering. In orthodox Sunni Islam (which I would consider to be Islam as practiced for the first 1000 years since the death of the Prophet Muhammad (saws) ) Sufism (or more specifically Tasawwuf) defiantly has a place. Unfortunately modern truly sunni resources are hard to come across in English, having been replaced by Wahabi/salafi orientated materials. Wahabis propagate a very literalist interpretation of Islam and do not consider sufism legitimate, But then they also dismiss a lot of other practices that were basic parts of both sunni and shia islam up until recent times. They have an issue with practices (for example tasawwuf, celebrating the prophets birthday, the concept of intercession, etc) which were disputed by very few scholars historically. For more on this see the following lecture or if you don't want to sit through all of that here is a ten minute segment that sums up the answer to your question but in regards to sunni Islam If you'd like to know more from the sunni perspective shaykh Abdal Hakim Murad and Shaykh Hamza Yusuf both have a lot of material online so you can youtube/google their names and get more information inshaAllah. Hisham Kabbani is another Sunni Sufi (Naqshabandi) but I've only come across him recently so cant comment on him too much. He has a channel called sufilive on youtube where you can access his lectures. I'm sorry I couldn't answer your question in light of the Shia perspective but inshaAllah (God willing) someone else here will. Either way I think coming closer to God/Allah ÓÈÍÇäå æÊÚÇáì is a beautiful, positive thing and if Sufism is what does it for you then I would defiantly explore that more. Good luck on your journey
  9. ^Yes, this is my current understanding of things with regards to the infallibles I can believe that Lady Fatima, Imam Ali, Imam Hasan & Imam Hussain (pbut) were infallible because of verse 33:33 and the Hadith of the cloak but why only certain descendants of the Imams after them?
  10. Sorry, this may be a silly question but just to ensure I understand your post correctly... Does this mean that 12ers don't believe that Imam al-Sadiq appointed Ismail first and that this report is fabricated? Or am I misunderstanding you?
  11. I'm unsure about almost everything to do with Imamate! I believe in the other tenets of Shia islam; the infallibility of the Prophets (pbut), divine justice, loving ahlul bayt... The only other thing I think I struggle with is Tabarra. Does it mean we must curse those we perceive as enemies to Ahlul bayt or can we just distance ourselves and say Allahu Alem?
  12. Thank you for the link brother I read it all and I agree with it all and that Imam Ali (AS) was the rightful successor to the prophet. I believer in Imam Ali's (AS) leadership as an imam and also in following Imam Hassan (AS) and Imam Huseyin (AS) as this seems logical. It is the line of leadership after Karbala that I'm not convinced of. And I don't know how to know which way is right IYSWIM.
  13. Thank you for the replies. I understand the point that even if the names were known then ppl may not have believed the Hadith or may have chosen not to listen to it. I can see that this is a possibility. However another point I'm struggling with (after a bit of further reading) is that apparently Imam Jafar al-Sadiq (AS) himself named his elder son Ismail as his successor but then Ismail passed away before him. So if even the Imam of that time didn't know of the Hadith relating the names of the twelve imams I am still concerned that this Hadith may have been fabricated at a later date. How do others see this? I am also a bit confused about how things work under the current Imam - Al Mahdi (may Allah hasten His return). Is it the belief of 12ers that he inspires current scholars (Ayatollahs?) in their interpretation of fiqh and answering the questions of his followers? When I first looked into the topic of Imamah my understanding was that Allah ÓÈÍÇäå æÊÚÇáì gives people of each time an Imam as a mercy so that we are not misguided but since Imam Al Mahdi is said to be in greater occultation then how does this work in the present time?
  14. Assalamu aleykum everyone I'm a lurker on here. I've been reading others posts but this is my first one. I'm sooooo confused! I genuinely don't know which way is correct. I'm a convert of 10 yrs (converted age 18 having been brought up agnostic). I'm married to a Turkish Sunni (Ashari-Hanafi, not at all wahabi thank God!), although he is not too practicing. We have 2 babies and I really want to bring them up correctly. When it comes to fiqh I follow the Jafari madhab cause (of the little I know) it makes sense to me. An example being how wudhu in the Jafari madhab is the same as wudhu in the Quran. But when it comes to aqeedah I genuinely don't know! I can accept that the prophets are infallible, that we are in the time awaiting Al Mahdi, I believe in intercession and I don't think Ziyarat or celebrating Mawlid is bidah or shirk! Logically I know that loving the prophet (saws) means loving his family (pbut) and that this is in the Quran too. I accept that Imam Ali (AS) should have been the leader of the ummah because of Ghadir Khum and the things I've learnt about the 1st three caliphs. Although I don't feel comfortable cursing anyone. I prefer to say Allahu alem although I haven't been saying RAA after their names anymore. I was shocked to learn about Karbala and when I told my husband about it he cried. How could ahlul bayt of been treated this way?!! The part I'm stuck on is accepting Imamah. It's the final step I know but something's bugging me... The main thing at the moment is that if the names of the 12 leaders were known then how did the Shia of Ali split into different sects? Like why didn't people just say to the Zaidi's 'no, Zaid ibn Ali cannot be the next imam because we know the names & number & order of the imams through oral tradition and the next Imam is...' Why didn't the same happen with the Ismailis as well? I can see how sects like Alevis exist as their faith seems to be a mix of 12er Shia Islam, Sufism and maybe some other stuff but the above point is really bothering me. Can anyone help me get over this point? Has anyone here been where I am and can offer some advice? I have some other issues with Imamate too but this is the big one at the moment. I want to know the truth for my own sake and for that of my family too. I don't feel like my faith is complete in anyway at the moment as I'm sure most Sunnis wouldn't accept my faith as correct as follow the Jafari madhab. And true Shias must believe in Imamate so I don't fit in there either. Please help! Fatma Nur
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