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  1. So, I've been reading quite a bit about DMT (dimethyltriptamine), a chemical produced in the pineal gland in our brains, the same chemical that elicits our dreams. This gateway to dreamland is released in massive amounts at the moment of death. When I say massive, if a water glass of DMT evokes a dream, at death, an equivalent river excretes into your system.It may well be the reason we, as a species, are capable of sentience itself. It should be noted that the pineal’s significance is neither a new idea, nor an unfounded one. Spanning the expanse of human civilization runs an undercurrent of worshipful adoration to the almighty pineal, more widely known as the inner eye, all-seeing eye, or the like considered the body’s gateway to the soul We've all seen that before ^, Egypt had its Eye of Horus (now emblazoned on the US dollar bill). Hindu culture has its bottu (the familiar forehead dot). Even the ancient art of yoga recognizes the brow chakra, or ajna, as blossoming at the pineal, or third eye. That’s only to name a few. Great, so what does all this have to do with death and the afterlife? among people who used (smoked) DMT, out of the macrocosm of potential experiences, two major themes emerge nearly universally: 1) A stretching of time – they experience the hectic 6 or 7 minutes as a near eternity or lifetime. Imagine Cobb’s 50 year night in Inception. 2) They experience religious incarnations with a tilt toward whatever sect the subject is affiliated with. Here’s the clincher: after death, while this massive psychedelic dose courses through the brain, there is this mysterious several minutes where the brain still functions. With our new perspective, however, we at last understand what these minutes are… These few minutes after death, subjectively, are experienced as an eternity (eternal heaven or hell), engrossed in the DMT universe. Also, the trip itself is a highly personal experience dictated by the deepest realms of the subconscious. Therefore, whatever at your deepest core you expect to happen when you die… Congratulations, that’s what’ll happen… Every religion was right. On to something or totally off? Can DMT be the barrier between this world and the other world... from an islamic standpoint?
  2. @hasanhh Ahhh! You beat me to it, I was just about to post this. Very curious as to what the general consensus is on this topic. Islamically, that is. Were talking about a promise to access the direct source code of life......and from a scientific and ethical standpoint, it seems like a game of unintended consequences. At least thats what I've been reading. An example, the elimination of mosquitoes, ergo, the end of malaria. But what about the bats that rely on mosquitoes for food? Then what? Habitat manipulation? Things can get really ugly, really fast. And to all those preaching science!!! Slow ur roll, as with all things, human greed has found its way into CRISPR which has apparently been patented, locking in royalties worth billions, or potentially trillions depending on how crazy the scientific community gets with it. Money money money.
  3. No need to get all fussy, ad hominem after ad-hominem. Calm yourself, I won't even bother with a constructive counter argument, you don't reflect. I will leave you with this, your quote "even a child knows that the only ones granted paradise will be the muslims" clearly showing your mindset, one that needs changing. You should first understand that Islam teaches us that No Religion can Monopolize Salvation True Islam recognizes that no one religion holds a monopoly over salvation. The Holy Quran clearly supports this belief as it declares, This verse demonstrates that it is not just Muslims who will receive the rewards of their good deeds. Jews, and Christians, and Sabians those who are of non-Abrahamic religions will all be rewarded for their good deeds and their faith. Indeed, it is impossible for Muslims to declare a monopoly on salvation when the Holy Quran clearly states that those of other religions who do good deeds will have no fear. True Islam recognizes that the right to decide who goes to heaven and who goes to hell is one that is exclusive to God. Human beings Muslims or otherwise cannot make this decision. Likewise, the Holy Quran states, The Holy Quran is likewise clear that God’s grace and mercy are His most powerful attributes: Therefore, True Islam recognize that ultimately, God’s mercy will encompass all human beings, regardless of their faith. Indeed, True Islam teaches that if mercy were not one of the attributes of God, no one would be delivered. Therefore, True Islam rejects any type of a monopoly on salvation. One that you seem to be preaching, no?
  4. Pretty simple, does our religion preach such? When we really zoom out and look at the other two main abrahamic religions, the concept of hell is present, but is it eternal? Are we not all ultimately saved by gods grace? @Qasim Rashid (OF) has had me on a loop with this topic, quote' “Is God merciful, compassionate, and just?” “Yes, absolutely,” he replied. “Is hell eternal?” “Yes, absolutely,” he replied again. “So, a merciful, compassionate, and just God would send a finite creature with finite knowledge of sins to infinite damnation and hellfire? Does that make sense to you?” Any refutations? 1. Rejection of eternal hell Proponents of the “eternal hell” theory often cite three verses to support their position. First, Qur’an 5:38,“They will wish to come out of the Fire, but they will not be able to come out of it, and they shall have a lasting punishment.” Second, 4:138, “Those who believe, then disbelieve, then again believe, then disbelieve, and then increase in disbelief, Allah will never forgive them nor will He guide them to the way.” Finally, 5:73, “Surely, whoso associates partners with Allah, him has Allah forbidden Heaven, and the Fire will be his resort.” In claiming these verses establish eternal hell, such proponents commit at least five errors. First, they translate azaabummukeem in Qur’an 5:38 as “never ending” instead of “lasting.” Arabic lexicon holds that azaabummukeem here does not mean “never ending” but instead “very long.” It takes a middle ground — hell is limited, but lasting enough that people will want to escape and will be made to stay longer. Second, eternal hell theorists ignore Qur’an 7:156: “‘I will inflict My punishment on whom I will; but My mercy encompasses all things.” How can hell last eternally if God’s mercy encompasses “all things?” This also establishes the scope of 4:138 cited above to apply only as long as a person remains in disbelief — which will not extend beyond this life. Qur’an 39:54 says, “. . . despair not of the mercy of Allah, surely Allah forgives all sins. Verily He is Most Forgiving, Merciful.” In reading the Qur’an as a whole, rather than in isolated fragments, it is clear that God forgives all sins. Finally, taking the phrase “those who associate partners with God . . . Fire will be their resort” to mean eternal hell misses the common-sense approach. This phrase is no different than “those who are patients . . . the hospital will be their resort.” A patient remains in the hospital until he is healed, and then leaves. Hell will serve as a reformatory stage from which they will eventually exit with God’s mercy and grace. 2. Gods grace Like the Bible, the Qur’an teaches that faith without works is dead. Ultimately, however, Islam teaches that we are saved by God’s grace. Islam teaches that as Master of the universe, God bestows his grace on whomsoever he pleases for whatever reason he pleases — without need for sacrifice. Our works are not for God, but for humanity’s benefit. Thus, as God’s grace ultimately saves us, hell cannot remain eternal. 3. Monopolization of salvation It is not for humans to say how God will judge. Indeed, no guarantee or promise exists that every Muslim will go directly to paradise after death or that every non-Muslim is automatically hell-bound. Islam is the only ancient religion that does not monopolize salvation exclusively to its adherents. Instead, Islam teaches that non-Muslims can and shall attain paradise. The Qur’an declares in 2:62, “Surely, the Believers, and the Jews, and the Christians and the Sabians — whichever party from among these truly believes in Allah and the Last Day and does good deeds — shall have their reward with their Lord, and no fear shall come upon them, nor shall they grieve.” Islam also teaches that hell is not designed for torment, but reform. All must first be cleansed of sin before entering paradise. This cleansing may be of incorrect beliefs — held by non-Muslims and misguided Muslims — or for sinful actions. Hell is the reformatory abode for purification after death. Qur’an 101:9-10 declares, “But as for him whose scales are light [upon judgment], hell will be his nursing mother.” This verse makes no distinction between a believer and a nonbeliever. Yes, Islam teaches that hell is a painful experience, but Islam defines hell as a nursing mother designed to purge sin before admitting a soul to paradise Lastly..... God is not sadistic. If hell is eternal, the only logical conclusion is that God is sadistic. Consider this: if God is all-knowing, then surely He would know before He created a being whether that being would receive eternal hell. Yet, grace and mercy are God’s greatest attributes in the Qur’an, followed by his justice. The idea that the Creator of the universe would demand eternal damnation for the sins of an insignificantly few years by comparison is perhaps the greatest argument against God. If any creator is that ungracious, unmerciful, and unjust to knowingly create a soul only to torment that soul for eternity, then such a being displays such immorality that even wild beasts are above it. Such a being is many things — sadistic, unjust, immoral– but God it is not.
  5. Not sure how I come off on Shiachat, I do rant quite a bit on here, but the vast majority (98%) of my instructors, professors, and employers; past, present and most likely future, have made it quite clear that they think I'm prideful and arrogant. Im starting to think it was a self defense mechanism that stemmed from something when I was a child, and it just stuck and progressed with time. Family hasn't shied away from these assertions either. Whenever I hear it im just like, Edit: I just took pride in this post ^ ) :
  6. Forgive me in advance, but what does a Lamborghini have to do with an islamic forum?
  7. The beast of the earth (Dab'bat al-Ard) is the holy land, not some animal, no? One should always reflect over verses from the holy book and hadiths, they are sometimes meant to be symbolic and metaphorical. How did we come tot he conclusion of an actual "beast"?
  8. Ultimately, me and you can come to an agreement. There is Indeed, no guarantee or promise that exists in which every Muslim will go directly to paradise after death or that every non-Muslim is automatically hell-bound. BUT, Islam is the only ancient religion that does not monopolize salvation exclusively to its adherents. Instead, Islam teaches that non-Muslims can and shall attain paradise. The Qur’an declares in 2:62, “Surely, the Believers, and the Jews, and the Christians and the Sabians — whichever party from among these truly believes in Allah and the Last Day and does good deeds — shall have their reward with their Lord, and no fear shall come upon them, nor shall they grieve.” lastly, although I don't fully understand it, I've heard the opinion that even some atheists would be forgiven, assuming that they were indeed looking for the truth, but never came across it.
  9. He promised divine justice, you are correct, but in what form? We are all sentient creatures, so define an evil one. Qasim Rashid puts it well. The Qur’an specifically compares and gives context to what God means by “forever” in the context of heaven and hell with side-by-side verses. Regarding hell in Qur’an 11:107-108, God says, “As for those who will prove unfortunate, they shall be in the Fire . . . . abiding therein so long as the heavens and the earth endure, excepting what thy Lord may will.” The following verse about heaven uses the same language, with one distinction: “But as for those who will prove fortunate, they shall be in Heaven; abiding therein so long as the heavens and the earth endure, excepting what thy Lord may will — a gift that shall not be cut off.” In a direct comparison, the Qur’an clarifies that heaven is “a gift which shall never be cut off,” while eternity is not at all mentioned regarding hell. Qur’an 11:108 says hell’s inmates will come out when God pleases — God’s mercy descends and encompasses his punishment.
  10. Mannnnnnn, Enough with this magic garbage.
  11. I have also heard of the concept, thanks for the link bro, ill hit you right back with one. This is a great book that really knocked down the concept for me, its in PDF to, so you can just click and read. http://islamicmobility.com/pdf/JOURNEY OF THE UNSEEN WORLD Rooh Ka Safar.pdf
  12. “those who associate partners with God . . . Fire will be their resort” to mean eternal hell misses the common-sense approach. This phrase is no different than “those who are patients . . . the hospital will be their resort.” A patient remains in the hospital until he is healed, and then leaves. Hell will serve as a reformatory stage from which they will eventually exit with God’s mercy and grace. But a solid believer is a whole different story. I could be totally wrong, but we should question everything in order to understand correctly, right?
  13. And the convo goes Quote; “Is God merciful, compassionate, and just?” “Yes, absolutely,” he replied. “Is hell eternal?” “Yes, absolutely,” he replied again. “So, a merciful, compassionate, and just God would send a finite creature with finite knowledge of sins to infinite damnation and hellfire? Does that make sense to you?” Qur’an 7:156: “‘I will inflict My punishment on whom I will; but My mercy encompasses all things.” How can hell last eternally or a believer be sent to hell even for a short time if God’s mercy encompasses “all things?” I hope we all make it. <3
  14. Again, even that sounds horrific. A hundred thousand years man? I haven't verified it, but ive heard the Hadith in which our prophet reportedly said those who say the testimony of faith are forgiven. In this life alone, we are constantly being forgiven, are we not? When someone goes through sickness, depression, trials, sins are being stripped.
  15. Really? I don't know, I try to hold the belief that we will all go to heaven, eventually, even if casted to hell. One should always remember that god chose to call himself the most merciful and the most forgiving before anything else. Hell is an awful place made for awful people. Sure we can hope, as we should, but the belief that only a select few will make it in the end just seems like it doesn't fall in line with the love and merciful view embodied in islam. I had no idea, but thanks for doing so! The more opinions the better! The question is, will we know? For instance, I've heard the theory that at one point, we were all just a bunch of souls gathered together before god. Before this life and our creation, the only thing we knew was god, thats it, and when finding out about our creation, we were freaking out (lots of error in that theory, take it with a grain of salt). But do we remember it? I sure don't, so will the same go for the after life? Apparently, very select few may have some remeberence of this, and although highly unlikely, I've also heard the opinion that some may encounter another human and may feel like they've known or seen them, when in actuality, they knew them in our Past life (when we were just souls).
  16. Peace be upon you all This past ramadan I've been having discussions back and forth with a number of people in regards to the soul, life, religion, and our end destination. Although some things were clarified, one of my questions kept going unanswered. In fact, people strayed away from it hitting me with a bunch of remedial evasions, which upset me. On top of this, my philosophy professor gave a lecture last week thats been driving me MAD. Ive been contemplating life and religion for the past week and I need some shiachat rectification! So then, life's question: 1. Is our end destination, afterlife, Jannah, hellfire, whatever you'd like to call it, Physical or spiritual. Maybe the verses in holy books regarding an afterlife are meant to be interpreted in a symbolic way? Theres also the theory of a mix, that the hereafter is physical and spiritual, but that the body with which one is resurrected is not exactly the one that he has in this life, rather, it is like a shadow or an abstract of it. It will be perceived by any one as the same body, but it does not have the same physical and chemical mechanisms it had in this world. The premise of my professors lecture was the process of teleportation, but I compared it to the process of resurrection and an afterlife, as for all these years I thought this is how it works. In basic terms, his theory was in regards to a teleportation machine. Something you could just walk into (death) and have it zap you someplace else (afterlife). Consider how this might work. You walk into the machine (you die), and it scans your body and records every last bit of detail, both physical and mental (angles). The machine then destroys your body and sends that information to the other machine (wherever you were wanting to travel to, in this case Heaven or hell). This other machine then creates, out of new matter, a body that is physically indistinguishable from your original body and places all the mental content of your mind into it. This is all done instantaneously. The person that walks out of the other end of that machine would think he/she is you. He/she would have a body that is physically indistinguishable from your body, he/she would have all your memories, thoughts, beliefs, opinions, desires, and all other mental content (after some spiritual cleansing of course). Is this not how life after death works? 2. The soul Imagine we could do a brain transplant. Suppose you have cancer throughout your body but your brain is fine. What if we were able to remove your healthy brain from your cancer filled body and put it into a new healthy body? Supposing that all your mental content would remain intact, would the person who wakes up after the transplant be you--just in a new body? This poses the question of, what is the soul, its location, ext. If it can transfer worlds bodies, can the same be said for bodies in the after life? I need some of the best shiachatters on this one @hasanhh @Qa'im @notme @Hameedeh
  17. Im kinda derailing the thread and going off topic, but why is everything in Arabic? Our prayers, supplications, greetings, ext.? From my understanding, this was the language in use during the time of revelation, but does it end there? For example, I speak arabic pretty fluently, but even so, I feel more connected if recitation of prayer, or Quran, or greetings is done in English. If done in arabic, I'm automatically translating the words to English and it causes a mess in my head. Islam is the final revelation to all mankind, and not just arabs, right? Can prayers, supplications, and so on be done in there native tongue? Does it make a difference?
  18. No offense, but what is it with all this "black magic" rubbish in the arab world. Why are people and societies so backwards over there (I am not referring to you). Family problem? It's black magic! Marrital issues, uh oh, black magic! Feeling down or depressed, black magic! Wheres the logic in the belief that someones casted a spell on you? I think thats why theres so much stigma on mental health in the Middle East. Something I read yesterday which has to do with the topic, is people often come across a conversation pertaining to things like "sadness and family problems is shaytan’s doing" or that "a believer never gets sad" or even that “sadness is an indication of weak or incomplete faith”. Nothing, and I mean NOTHING, could be further from the truth. Statements like these only escalate the process of drowning for individuals who suffer from family issues, depression, anxiety or hopelessness. Off topic, but take sadness for example. It is of the utmost importance that people know the difference between sadness and depression; sadness is a typical human emotion and depression is a much more damaging and longer lasting condition of hopelessness, despair, and dejection. Sadness, and going through trials like family issues (some have it worse than others) is a part of what makes us human. No living soul is unfamiliar with it; even our Prophets faced multiple episodes of sadness. For example, Yaqub (AS) wept until he lost his vision and even our beloved Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) experienced bouts of sadness upon the loss of his wife and uncle. Hence, sadness is not a sign of weakness in any form. To experience sadness is to be human. Having strong faith, or Imaan, does not render a believer to be an exception to the emotion of sadness. Imaan does, however, equip us with the tools to combat depression and hopelessness. There is nothing wrong with accepting and acknowledging your grief. The strength of a believer is not that he remains strong by dwelling in denial or drowning in numbness, it is that he never loses hope despite all the pain and grief. That in essence is what true faith is. Just try making Das, and always remember, “For indeed, with hardship [will be] ease” (Quran 94:5). Trust His word. Take a moment, embrace your lack of control over your circumstances, and know that the one in control is the best of planners and loves you more than you can imagine, the human mind is unable to understand Allah’s ÓÈÍÇäå æÊÚÇáì ultimate wisdom behind every single thing and trial that happens to us. Leave the black magic stuff.
  19. I totally agree with you man. Something id like to point out though, all this talk about hell and hellfire, its quite aggravating honestly. All I see nowadays is people pointing fingers, "he's going to hell" "she's going to hell" "they're going to hell". Do people even understand what eternal hellfire is, the severity of it, and who its actually for? Your original post emphasizes on many who are bound to hell, but why? Your telling me that god almighty, who chose to call himself al-rahman and al-raheem before anything else, who is the most loving the most gracious the most forgiving, who sent down only 1 part of his mercy to be shared between mankind animals and all else between them and left the other 99 up there, who forgave a prostitute simply because she saw a parched dog and gave it water (unverified Hadith), is going to send someone (description of most Shias and sunnis) who trys to pray 5 times a day, trys to fast during ramadan, attests to his oneness, gives to charity, tries to avoid sins but maybe falls into them at times, try's to live a decent life, to ETERNAL hellfire? How does that make any sense? Naturally, we should wish eternal paradise and salvation from hell for everyone. Muslim or not. Thats what islam is about. Love, compassion, and mercy.
  20. ............. what? Atheists? Do you guys even know what atheism is? Atheism is total disbelief in the existence of god and a higher power. Disbelievers, Unbelievers, kaffirs, ext. Thats them. If anyones going to hell eternally, its atheists. I honestly think this the first time I've heard that. Maybe ur referring to agnostics, but even that equates to disbelief. I do agree in regards to Christians and Jews however. Theres good people, and theres bad people, just as we have in islam. Each will be judged separately.
  21. ............. what? Atheists? Do you guys even know what atheism is? Atheism is total disbelief in the existence of god and a higher power. Disbelievers, Unbelievers, kaffirs, ext. Thats them. If anyones going to hell eternally, its atheists. I honestly think this the first time I've heard that. Maybe ur referring to agnostics, but even that equates to disbelief. I do agree in regards to Christians and Jews however. Theres good people, and theres bad people, just as we have in islam. Each will be judged separately.
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