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Abu 'l Jarud

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    Abu 'l Jarud got a reaction from K.C. Negaro in Orthodox Twelvers on other Shia sects   
    I am a zaydi and we are not just associated with Houthis.
    Twelvers view the above listed differently. A lot depends on what the particular person believes.
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    Abu 'l Jarud got a reaction from JasmineAila in Orthodox Twelvers on other Shia sects   
    سلم عليكم
    yes, I prefer not to label myself per say because these sects all came after the Salaf. And most of the time when you are part of a certain sect you become subjected to imaginary walls that tell you what to believe.
    now I said I'm a zaydi because it's the easiest thing I can "relate" to when engaging in a discussion.
    as for what Zaydis believe, well, 2 main sects are in existence at this point in time. Mainly the group(majority) that believe in Imams having to have the "wasf" of 'Ali. Which means that they have to posses the attributes of him and what he did for instance;
    rising with a sword
    being an Alid either from Al-Husayn or al-Hasan
    having religious knowledge and piety.
    now the other group which namely was the Jarudiyya have become the Houthies. Now they have the same beliefs as mainstream Zaydis except that they curse the first 3. And it is a condition that they do. Their proof is in the Masa'il of Abu 'l Qasim(Imam Rassi) 
    as for books they follow;
    'Amaali Ahmad b. 'Isa
    masa'il Abu 'l Qasim
    musnad Zayd b. 'Ali
    jami' al-Kafi 
    to your question whether they follow Hanafi Fiqh then NO!
    that is a grave misconception. While yes, some of the Fiqh is taken from Kufa because Muhammad b. Mansur was Kufan then you will notice some.
    but I follow the opinions of Isma'il b. Ishaq who in the Amaali prayers a lot like Imamis with a little diffrences
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    Abu 'l Jarud got a reaction from Auriba in Pre-Islamic Mysticism in the Middle East   
    Sure:)
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    Abu 'l Jarud got a reaction from Auriba in Pre-Islamic Mysticism in the Middle East   
    http://wathanism.blogspot.com/2011/11/deities-beings-and-figures-in-arabian.html?m=1
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    Abu 'l Jarud got a reaction from Auriba in Pre-Islamic Mysticism in the Middle East   
    Hanif's are controversial but historically we know that there were monotheists that can be traced from Isma'il to Muhammad.
    as for them being called "Hanif's" I doubt it
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    Abu 'l Jarud got a reaction from Auriba in Pre-Islamic Mysticism in the Middle East   
    No there is actually the tradition of وثنيا
    they worshiped the gods al-Quzah and Du'l Shara etc...
    in fact there are Arabs or Arabic speaking people online who now worship these false gods and are reconstructing it's religion
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    Abu 'l Jarud got a reaction from Auriba in Are Prophet Wives included in Ahl albayat (33:33)?   
    Is Qutayla b. Qays al-Kindiyya considered "Mother of believers"?
    she was prophets wife who later divorced him and became a pagan again.
    so to answer your question, some are and some are not.
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    Abu 'l Jarud got a reaction from Auriba in Why are the prophet/imams infallible?   
    The only solid evidence one can get "infallibility" from is the Qur'an.
    anything other than the word of الله is second hand and requires great scrutiny. 
    The Scholars of the past regardless of sectarian issues have unanimously agreed that the Ahlu 'l Khisa are infallible. Period...
    if al-Baqir for instance was infallible, the. Why would we have a Hadith from very early and credible sources showing Al-Baqir going to Jabir b. 'Abdullah and asking him questions?
    حدّثنا محمد بن منصور، قال: حدّثنا أحمد بن عيسى، عن محمد بن بكر، عن أبي الجارود، قال: حدّثنا أبوجعفر-عليه السلام-، قال: دخلنا على جابر، ونحن يومئذ شباب نبتغي العلم، فقلت: إنّ قومنا أماتو الصلاة، فأخَّرُوا الظهر، وأخّروا العصر.
    فقال: صلّوا في بيوتكم، ولتكن صلاتكم معهم تقيَّة.
    [al-Amali] Muhammad b. Mansur narrated to us.  He said: Ahmad b. `Isa narrated to me from Muhammad b. Bakr from Abu ‘l-Jarud.  He said: Abu Ja`far narrated to us.  He said: We entered upon Jabir, and we were in that day youths seeking knowledge.  So I said: Our people have made the salat dead, so they delayed the zhuhr, and they delayed the `asr.  So he said: Pray in your houses, and let your salat with them be out of taqiyya.
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    Abu 'l Jarud got a reaction from Auriba in Orthodox Twelvers on other Shia sects   
    سلم عليكم
    yes, I prefer not to label myself per say because these sects all came after the Salaf. And most of the time when you are part of a certain sect you become subjected to imaginary walls that tell you what to believe.
    now I said I'm a zaydi because it's the easiest thing I can "relate" to when engaging in a discussion.
    as for what Zaydis believe, well, 2 main sects are in existence at this point in time. Mainly the group(majority) that believe in Imams having to have the "wasf" of 'Ali. Which means that they have to posses the attributes of him and what he did for instance;
    rising with a sword
    being an Alid either from Al-Husayn or al-Hasan
    having religious knowledge and piety.
    now the other group which namely was the Jarudiyya have become the Houthies. Now they have the same beliefs as mainstream Zaydis except that they curse the first 3. And it is a condition that they do. Their proof is in the Masa'il of Abu 'l Qasim(Imam Rassi) 
    as for books they follow;
    'Amaali Ahmad b. 'Isa
    masa'il Abu 'l Qasim
    musnad Zayd b. 'Ali
    jami' al-Kafi 
    to your question whether they follow Hanafi Fiqh then NO!
    that is a grave misconception. While yes, some of the Fiqh is taken from Kufa because Muhammad b. Mansur was Kufan then you will notice some.
    but I follow the opinions of Isma'il b. Ishaq who in the Amaali prayers a lot like Imamis with a little diffrences
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    Abu 'l Jarud got a reaction from Auriba in Rijal Al-Kashi   
    If al-Baqir is infallible then why we have this Hadith in the Amaali of Ahmad b. 'Isa?
    قال: حدّثنا محمد بن منصور، قال: حدّثنا أحمد 
    بن عيسى، عن محمد بن بكر، عن أبي الجارود، قال: حدّثنا أبوجعفر-عليه السلام-، قال: دخلنا على جابر، ونحن يومئذ شباب نبتغي العلم، فقلت: إنّ قومنا أماتو الصلاة، فأخَّرُوا الظهر، وأخّروا العصر.
    فقال: صلّوا في بيوتكم، ولتكن صلاتكم معهم تقيَّة.
     
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    Abu 'l Jarud got a reaction from Mansur Bakhtiari in Wearing aqeeq?   
    Aqeeq and Firoza are good
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    Abu 'l Jarud got a reaction from reisiger in Orthodox Twelvers on other Shia sects   
    سلم عليكم
    yes, I prefer not to label myself per say because these sects all came after the Salaf. And most of the time when you are part of a certain sect you become subjected to imaginary walls that tell you what to believe.
    now I said I'm a zaydi because it's the easiest thing I can "relate" to when engaging in a discussion.
    as for what Zaydis believe, well, 2 main sects are in existence at this point in time. Mainly the group(majority) that believe in Imams having to have the "wasf" of 'Ali. Which means that they have to posses the attributes of him and what he did for instance;
    rising with a sword
    being an Alid either from Al-Husayn or al-Hasan
    having religious knowledge and piety.
    now the other group which namely was the Jarudiyya have become the Houthies. Now they have the same beliefs as mainstream Zaydis except that they curse the first 3. And it is a condition that they do. Their proof is in the Masa'il of Abu 'l Qasim(Imam Rassi) 
    as for books they follow;
    'Amaali Ahmad b. 'Isa
    masa'il Abu 'l Qasim
    musnad Zayd b. 'Ali
    jami' al-Kafi 
    to your question whether they follow Hanafi Fiqh then NO!
    that is a grave misconception. While yes, some of the Fiqh is taken from Kufa because Muhammad b. Mansur was Kufan then you will notice some.
    but I follow the opinions of Isma'il b. Ishaq who in the Amaali prayers a lot like Imamis with a little diffrences
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    Abu 'l Jarud got a reaction from Auriba in Rijal Al-Kashi   
    I'd accept that. No problem.
    still a wacky "narration" if you want to be argumentative.
     
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    Abu 'l Jarud got a reaction from Auriba in Rijal Al-Kashi   
    Here is a wacky Hadith in Rijaal Kashshi:
    قال نصر بن الصباح: قال لي السجادة الحسن بن علي بن أبي عثمان يوما ما تقول في محمد بن أبي زينب ومحمد بن عبد الله بن عبد المطلب (صلى الله عليه وآله) أيهما أفضل؟ قلت له: قل أنت، فقال: بل محمد بن أبي زينب الأسدي ان الله جل وعز عاتب في القران محمد بن عبد الله في مواضع ولم يعاتب محمد بن أبي زينب فقال لمحمد بن أبي عبد الله: "ولولا أن ثبتناك لقد كدت تركن إليهم شيئا قليلا "، "ولئن أشركت ليحبطن عملك" الآية، وفي غيرهما، ولم يعاتب محمد ابن أبي زينب بشئ من أشباه ذلك
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    Abu 'l Jarud got a reaction from Al Hadi in Porn addiction cure   
    Porn is a very difficult thing to stop, you just have to keep making a du'a and act upon it. Because of you keep going back to the same mistake it will get you further from Allah.
    plus, pornography is repulsive in essence, the majority of actors are filthy in nature and the porn industry is run by jews
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    Abu 'l Jarud got a reaction from ali_fatheroforphans in Porn addiction cure   
    Porn is a very difficult thing to stop, you just have to keep making a du'a and act upon it. Because of you keep going back to the same mistake it will get you further from Allah.
    plus, pornography is repulsive in essence, the majority of actors are filthy in nature and the porn industry is run by jews
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    Abu 'l Jarud reacted to Haydar Husayn in Shia Quran Reciters   
    No, why would it be wrong?
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    Abu 'l Jarud got a reaction from Pearl3112 in Orthodox Twelvers on other Shia sects   
    I am a zaydi and we are not just associated with Houthis.
    Twelvers view the above listed differently. A lot depends on what the particular person believes.
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    Abu 'l Jarud reacted to A true Sunni in Are Prophet Wives included in Ahl albayat (33:33)?   
    Umm Salama said: "O Prophet of Allah! Am I not one of the members of your family?" The Holy Prophet replied: "You have a good future but only these are the members of my family. O Lord! The members of my family are more deserving."
    Sunni reference: al-Mustadrak, by al-Hakim, v2, p416
     
    picked this up from an earlier discussion on Shiachat. Contradicts his reference
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    Abu 'l Jarud got a reaction from reisiger in Are Ismaili muslims?   
    That is a real deep question...
    impossible to answer in this kind of atmosphere. It is a multi faceted argument between the Qat'iyya and the Isma'iliyya.
    in short, if they are the "pure Isma'ilis" meaning those who followed or rather believes that Isma'il b. Jafar was alive and their Imam then yes, they have evidences regarding that claim.
    but if it's the Nizaris that they later "turned into" then no, they have become antinomians and abandoned the Shari'ah 
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    Abu 'l Jarud reacted to ShiaMan14 in Use the Prophet when others use the Imam   
    Completely wrong.
    Even Imam Ali admitted to being a servant of the Prophet.
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    Abu 'l Jarud got a reaction from Panzerwaffe in Pre-Islamic Mysticism in the Middle East   
    http://wathanism.blogspot.com/2011/11/deities-beings-and-figures-in-arabian.html?m=1
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