AliMohammed

You people seem to be threatened by a mere choosing of words. Anyways i don't see the point in continuing on with this discussion, i don't want to reply to any more replies. Fi Aman Allah.

Go ahead and put me in "my place" i am longing to see your "knowledge" the basic hadith of the reappearance of the Mahdi [ajf] you don't believe in. You people are something else wallahi.

Prophet Mohammad [saas] has said: Verily Allah, Mighty and Exalted sent me as a mercy to the worlds and in order to eradicate string instruments, the flute and other pre-Islamic pagan practises (Bihar al-anwar v.79 p.250 hadith n.2) Prophet Mohammad [saas] has said: Two sounds are cursed in this world and in the hereafter; the sound of the flute played in celebration for a bounty and the twang of a string instrument played during a calamity. (Kanz al-'ummal hadith n.40661) Imam Al-Sadiq [as] said: Singing (music) is one of the things that Allah, mighty and Exalted has threatened to requite with the Fire and this is the purport of Allah's saying "Among people is he who buys diversionary words (lahw al hadith) that he may lead people astray from Allah's way without any knowledge and he takes it into ridicule, those will have a humiliating punishment" (31.06). The Prophet Mohammad [saas] said: Music is a charm of adultery (Bihar al-Anwar v.79 p.247 hadith n.26) Prophet Mohammad [saas] said: Three things harden the heart; listening to diversionary words (lahw alhadith, music), seeking (game) to hunt and frequenting (following) the sultan. (Bihar al-anwar v.79 p.252 hadith n.6) Imam Al-Sadiq [as] said: Music engenders hypocrisy. (Bihar al-anwar v.79 p.241 hadith n.7) Be careful believing some people (an individual here) who said that listening to flute or string instruments is halal, as per hadith it is obvious that it is haram (singing included). As for the other kinds of music, the "background" kinda music, different maraji' have different takes on this, i advise you to contact the one you follow.

May i ask how you came to know about Islam and shia Islam in particular? May Allah bless you and keep you in the true path.

Wa alaikum Salam Visit Al-Muhassin mosque in furmel, Sheikh Yasser al-Habib has a personal hawza there and he is a follower of Ayatollah Sadiq Shirazi (may Allah lengthen his life).

Inna lillah wa inna ilayh raaji'uun, do you people simply lack the brain power to process simple text??? When in my text did i ever claim that a revert can not attain a righteous maqam? If they reverted before the dhuur and became righteous, 100% they can be amongst the 313 but for someone to argue that after the dhuur (when the 313 are already assembled) can an individual revert and become one of the 313 (that have already assembled!!) So what mashallah now there are 314?? SubhaanAllah, how some people can not even comprehend basic logic.

Firstly this ayah that you quoted is referring to the true christians, jews and sabians before the Final Messenger [saas] truly they were righteous, but as for their existence after the revelation of the true religion of Allah, all of them reverted and followed Mohammad since in their books Mohammad [saas] is prophesized, hence they can not exist in the present time since if they truly were followers of the true christianity for example they've should've known about Mohammad [saas] and the true successors of Muhammad [saas] and reverted to the true religion of Allah, a true christian who followed the real revelations of Isa [as] could've not stayed on their previous religions after the revelation of Islam, since that contradicts what they are told in the real Bible and Torah etc. So you're argument that not every follower of the corrupted abrahamic religions is not a sinful individual, that hukm is up to Allah, you can not use this ayah that you quoted for the modern christians for example, since they deny Mohammad [saas] otherwise they would've already reverted. Example: christian man in siffin, was waiting for the Prophet or his succeccor, found the succeccor, reverted. Now i would be stupid of you to argue that maybe there are christians now at this moment whom never even heard of Mohammad [saas], and that is simply impossible, that would mean that they are still waiting for him... Anyway, Allahu a'lam.

I understand your logic now, you are assuming that things that are not prophesized in hadith may happen, the hadith state that the 313 will all be ready and they will be key to the reappearance, you however are saying that there may happen sometimes else, which is extremely stupid of you. How can you say perhaps something will happen and you have no hadith backing your statement up, we can not assume things by ourselves, my statement is backed by ahadith. Your's is not.

Why can't you people understand that i am not claiming that a revert can not attain a righteous maqam, rather i am only stating the obvious, the 313 are the 313 for a reason, they have the attributes needed, and these attributes can not be attained lest you first and foremost have the Iman and a non muslim can not even have this simple Iman then how can they have the other attributes? Why can't you understand this simple logic is beyond me...

You seem confused, this will be my last reply to you, believe in what you believe i will not waste your or my time after this. 1. The whole concept of the 313 is that they are real followers of ahlulbayt, they are the real shia of ahlulbayt, they spend their whole lifetimes in the path of Islam, learning and teaching. 2. I am not claiming that a revert can not become in his life time (before the reappearance) a shia and be of these attributes and among the 313, of course they can and i am sure there will be lots of reverts. 3. My only problem is here, how can a person be regarded as one of these great personalities, when they haven't embraced the true religion of Islam and become real pious personalities? I will link some videos that speak your language, inshallah you will come to know what i mean when claim that a non muslim can not immediately be regarded as one of the 313, (lest they revert in their lifetime and become believers, before the advent of the reappearance) Biharul Anwar, vol 52, pg 307-308 Imam Sadiq ع: Their hearts are stronger than iron. They will be having complete faith in Allah. There is no place for doubts in their hearts. They shall be tougher than stones. They will uproot the mountain only by turning towards it. They will conquer every city they enter with their standard. They are like swift eagles, mounted on fast horses. They will touch the saddle of Imam’s ع mount to seek blessings. They will be encircling Imam ع to safeguard him from all calamities and misfortune. They will fulfill every desire of Imam ع with their heart and soul. They will not sleep in the nights. They will buzz like honeybees in their prayers. They will pass the night in worship and in the morning they will be seen mounted on horses, ready for helping Imam ع. They will be devout worshippers by the night and like the lions in the day. They will be more submissive and obedient to Imam ع than a maidservant. They are like burning lamps and their hearts are like glowing beacons. They are fearful of Allah and testify to His Unity. They are hopeful of martyrdom in the Way of Allah. Their slogan will be “O Avenger of Husain!” (يالثارات الحسين) When they march, their awe will precede them by a distance of one month’s journey. These are the ones who seek Allah’s Pleasure. Allah will help Imam ع through them. 'I am seeing Qaem (a.t.f.s.) and his companions in Kufa. Their foreheads bear the distinct marks of prostration. They have the ferociousness of a lion by the day and are intense worshippers by the night. Their bodies will be stronger than steel. The strength of each one of them will be equal to forty men. They will only kill the hypocrites and the infidels.' Behaarul Anwaar, vol. 52, pg. 386, hadith n. 202) Do non muslim have distinct marks of prostation in their foreheads? Or rather is this proof that the 313 are shia (be they reverts or not, they still became shia before the reappearance and became true shia believers, not that they were non muslim and then became one of the 313 like that in a snap of a finger, that is simply not logical, not possible). Hope you understand what i meant now.

Mashallah making your own conclusions to who the 313 are, disregarding ahadith all together as to what these 313 have for attributes. Try to think with your brain for a second please, try googling the descriptions of the 313 and read on them, then ponder can a non muslim be of these descriptions and stop making your own deductions "312 will be ready and the last one will be a revert by the hands of the mahdi" what kind of logic is this? This is not from the books of ahadith, you can not make things up you silly goose. Wallahi you people kill me with your ignorance.

How can the Imam regard the individual who reverted after the reappearance and put him in the ranks of the 313 when the Imam does not appear before the whole of the 313 are ready, they are the reason he [ajf] reappears. How can a person join the 313 after they've already assembled. Again, you are not thinking hard enough.

I know you may not be the sharpest pen in the box, but this is getting stupid. How about you go read donald duck maybe you'll understand something from there.

You are comparing two different scenarios, the time of the occultation is different to the time of Imam Hussain [as] and that is a long discussion as to why but i will only say this and you may use your brain or not up to you: The Imam of our time is waiting for the 313. The 313 have attributes, what are these attributes? many, but the foremost of them is Iman in Allah, the final messenger and wilaya of Ahlulbayt. If a non shia can't have this attribute in him (as for if he had, he would be considered a follower of the Islam of ahlulbayt or what it usually is called, shi'ism) now how could a non muslim then be of this attribute? Use your brain. I am not claiming that a non muslim can not be amongst the army of Imam zaman, no, no doubt there will be (ex) non muslims joining the army of Imam zaman, but understand the difference between the close companions the 313 and the army. Use your brain, what is it there for?

Of course you can say that, but the op asked for a correct way to send la'nat on the killers of ahlulbayt and what better place to look for that but the very words of the ma'sooms, hence dua sanamai quraish.