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wmehar2

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    wmehar2 got a reaction from Shahrukh K in why do we need the hadith?   
    Are you sure? Because i pray 3 times a day and break fast in the full night.  Im certain if i told them abu bakr doesn't  need to be first khalifa  in order for me to be Muslim... theyll call me kafir 
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    wmehar2 got a reaction from shia farm girl in Re-incarnation   
    There is no reincarnation of the soul.   It's not a matter of if we can believe in it or not, it doesn't exist.
    If reincarnation existed, then all of us are walking reincarnations of Adam and Eve AS on them both.   If we take the word of God in the Quran to be fact, there was Adam and Eve AS only, and from them the world/tribes were made and born. 
    By that same logic of applying Quran', God said we have one life, and one test.  Thus no reincarnation.  We all are individually created and unique (even supported by Science as there are nearly infinite permutations of DNA combinations considering mutations).
    If reincarnation was real and is a thing, Then we are all reincarnations of Adam, Eve, Prophets, SAW, Imams, Etc.  Which... is incredulous.  However we are from one ancestor, and of one religion, yet  we are all not the same person.
    God won't hand us 3 books the lives we lived, or say you lived better in this life than the other, it's quite illogical.  (one life youre murderer, verses next life a peaceful person, w/e).  God grants non of us humans intercession per the Qu'ran, when we die our soul resides in Barzakh, an inner dimension between the realm of God and the realm of Earth.
    Reincarnation even as a scientific/ non religious context is easily debunked.  
    There is no infinite cycle, we will all die, and humanity and earth will be destroyed one way or another, whichever God has chosen.  Solar Nova, Crazy Comet, Nuclear War, or some unpredictable Earthquakes releasing poison killing us all, take your pick.
    Though reincarnation is an interesting topic in a creative/imagination realm it's not something we can seriously ponder and assume to be reality as it' purely illogical.  Concept of reincarnation as a real thing is as absurd as the number infinite; these will never exist in human reality, as reincarnation is just another side of the same coin of infinite, with no purpose.
    If reincarnation can't exist because of everyone's incessant need to bucket themselves to be individualistic and divide. 
    Souls are a part of Allah swt, as He breathed life into our bodies...serving our Ru7/soul.  They don't die, they are light.
    Science, energy is neither created nor destroyed (but some reason life can be).  Reincarnation doesn't recycle human souls to fit the mold of the other, otherwise Heaven/Hell would only have 0 or 2 inhabitants based on your perspective.
    This is why reincarnation cannot be possible, at least for humans.  I would suspect the same as well for animals.
    I hope this is insightful for you, *shrug*
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    wmehar2 got a reaction from Labbayka in Proof of God's existence   
    What does it mean to be Muslim?  When in Qur'an 2:128, Ibrahim asks Allah to make him a Muslim and his descendants,  to accept their repentance. 
    Was he not already a Muslim ?
    Is Muslim something or a state we fall in and out of ... or once you're a Muslim you're always a Muslim ??
    From what I can see, me, you many others are righteous (2:177) at best.  Being Muslim is a difficult feat. 
    Righteousness is not that you turn your faces toward the east or the west, but [true] righteousness is [in] one who believes in Allah, the Last Day, the angels, the Book, and the Prophets and gives wealth, in spite of love for it, to relatives, orphans, the needy, the traveler, those who ask [for help], and for freeing slaves; [and who] establishes prayer and gives zakah; [those who] fulfill their promise when they promise; and [those who] are patient in poverty and hardship and during battle. Those are the ones who have been true, and it is those who are the righteous.
    Being righteous is important.  These criteria of those can be righteous can apply to those who have never read the Qur'an, believing Christians, Jews, agnostics. 
    3:113-3:114
    Yet they are not all alike; some of the People of the Book are a nation upstanding, that recite God's signs in the watches of the night, bowing themselves,believing in God and in the Last Day, bidding to honour and forbidding dishonour, vying one with the other in good works; those are of the ****righteous**** .
    Even they have criteria to meet to be righteous.
    Allah cares if you're righteous in addition to your belief of Allah's existence. Being a Muslim,  hadith all that other stuff comes after.  Nothing should get in the way of you being righteous. 
    rejection of truth after coming to know it is the antithesis of righteousness, concealing it within yourself and to others after knowing it.  The ultimate meaning of Kafir.
    An atheist/agnostic  who tries to be righteous  never having read or come across  the message is in a much better position than we think.
    Food for thought.
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    wmehar2 got a reaction from AmirioTheMuzzy in Non Syed and Syeda marriage   
    You could simply point out all of the Prophet's SAW family/descendants who married outside of the family..... They're lineages are all well documented. As illustrated in @Haydar Husayn's link.
    This is a type of ignorance, a superficial/material one.   You should try to also explain that we all come from Adam AS, one human and are all cousins, brothers, at one point of every other being.
     
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    wmehar2 got a reaction from Bima Bagus Pambudhi in need some advice on ahmadiyya   
    Instead of facilitating a way to show the man towards Shiism you @IbnMariam condemn him and expect him to not come closer to it.
    I'm not a Shia' but you don't want to give it a chance to see if he's serious in switching over or reconsidering his position in the Ahmadiyya.
    It says much of about  you and your disposition and general sincerity/inclinations.
    If you want my advice  @Sister11092, The Right path has been made distinct, according to the Qu'ran, and personally, for me it's not about Sects or Shiism, or all these quasi complicated stipulations/rules that seem to be generated.
    Muslim is Muslim, Syed or not, is irrelevant.   Sincerity, intentions, and communication are key.   Talk with him about how you would want to raise children and expect, don't compromise on your beliefs if it means marrying him or compromising things that are important to you.
    The same goes towards him.  The fact his fear of his parents reaction to his conversion interferes how he feels with faith, what does that tell you about his Character?  Are you aware of Shia/Sunni/Muslim converts from Christianity, and what they had to go through to follow to what they believe is the truth?  Many know they're thrown out from their parents family and so and so forth.  If he can't have that conversation with them, Shiism or whatever it is you  believe that is important to you, wasn't important enough to him to speak with his parents about?
    Don't lose judgement by cloud of fear of losing this guy either,  if you found it in him, you may find it in another, but you truly do not know someone until you see them walk the talk.
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    wmehar2 got a reaction from Bima Bagus Pambudhi in need some advice on ahmadiyya   
    You called him a kufr, a few times, if that isn't enough to disparage/condemn him, I dont know what is.
    She explained he has many disagreements with some theological points of Ahmadiyya-ism,  those points you didnt consider which may actually not make him Kufr.
    Guidance from Allah SWT can manifest through man, woman, signs, and all things, don't discount a sisters capacity to assist someone to come towards Islam just because she is a woman.
    I disagree with you, yes the realization of truth of Islam can be inspired or generated from person. 
    Haven't you heard Akhlaq is the best form of Da'wah?  
    Kufr is one who rejects the truth after accepting/knowing it is true.  You have no knowledge if this gentleman @Sister11092 speaking of was brought up in a ahmadiyya filled rhetoric/environment and never could fathom or given a chance to see true Islam.  
    In which case, I see this takfiri label attributed to him as harmful.
    I reject your calling of him a kafr, emphatically. 
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    wmehar2 got a reaction from funklebits in Jesus Christ said I am the Truth. Why is truth ignored?   
    Be careful of translations.
    Do you covet [the hope, O believers], that they would believe for you while a party of them used to hear the words of Allah and then distort the Torah after they had understood it while they were knowing?
    Pickthall: Have ye any hope that they will be true to you when a party of them used to listen to the word of Allah, then used to change it, after they had understood it, knowingly?
    Yusuf Ali: Can ye (o ye men of Faith) entertain the hope that they will believe in you?- Seeing that a party of them heard the Word of Allah, and perverted it knowingly after they understood it.
    Shakir: Do you then hope that they would believe in you, and a party from among them indeed used to hear the Word of Allah, then altered it after they had understood it, and they know (this).
    Muhammad Sarwar: Do you, the believers in truth, desire the unbelievers to believe you? There was a group among them who would hear the word of God and understand it. Then they would purposely misinterpret it.
    Mohsin Khan: Do you (faithful believers) covet that they will believe in your religion inspite of the fact that a party of them (Jewish rabbis) used to hear the Word of Allah [the Taurat (Torah)], then they used to change it knowingly after they understood it?
    Arberry: Are you then so eager that they should believe you, seeing there is a party of them that heard God's word, and then tampered with it, and that after they had comprehended it, wittingly?
     
    A few of these translations express that the Torah may not have been distorted directly but misinterpreted 
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    wmehar2 got a reaction from funklebits in Jesus Christ said I am the Truth. Why is truth ignored?   
    Don't know what others believe or say on this,   but from what I read and put together God had different standards or protocol from one group to another. 
    Though the message fundamentally the same.  
    The Quran refers to the Torah, Injeel (gospel) and itself .   It distinctly makes these books known as different but as His message. If they were meant to all be the same book I feel the author of the Quran would have just said the Quran came down before and was twisted, but it doesn't do that.
    it also maintains those who followed their books were righteous including the Quran after. 
    Not all Arabs were children of Israel yet the Quran addresses them specifically l (as I referenced above and in many places).
    Perhaps this is part of the Quran teaching the followers of it to not force its laws on others who don't beleive in it and perhaps those follow a book He sent down are entitled to be autonomous to govern themselves with their own law and should be.
    The Quran mentions that it's a book for those conscious of God, in the beginning, and who beleive in the unseen.  This extends well beyond Jews and Christians and validates that the books these people received as a bonafide message from God.
    Perhaps because these era of time these books came down called for different rules though Gods laws still fundamentally the same, since people are dynamic. 
    The Quran explicitly states among Jews and Christians are righteous people who bow in prayer and their reward /earnest work will never be removed from them.
    I think the Quran is acknowledging the fact people who are Christian or Jewish have a right to have reservations about the Quran, and as long as they follow the books that were given to them  sincerely,  then well... they're on a right path.
    Qur'an 3:64-71   Surah Ale-'Imran (The Family of 'Imran)
    Say: "O people of the Book! come to common terms as between us and you: that we worship none but Allah; that we associate no partners with Him; that we erect not from among ourselves Lords and patrons other than Allah." If then they turn back say: "Bear witness that we (at least) are Muslims (bowing to Allah's will)."
    Ye people of the Book! why dispute ye about Abraham when the Law and the Gospel were not revealed till after him? Have ye no understanding?
    Ah! ye are those who fell to disputing (even) in matters of which ye had some knowledge! but why dispute ye in matters of which ye have no knowledge? It is Allah Who knows and ye who know not!
    The above except validate my point .  Torah is Law, distinct from Gospel which is its own law.
     
    Qur'an 5:67-69   Surah Al-Ma'idah (The Table Spread)
    O Apostle! proclaim the (Message) which hath been sent to thee from thy Lord. If thou didst not thou wouldst not have fulfilled and proclaimed His mission: and Allah will defend thee from men (who mean mischief). For Allah guideth not those who reject faith.
    Say: "O People of the Book! ye have no ground to stand upon unless ye stand fast by the Law the Gospel and all the revelation that has come to you from your Lord." It is the revelation that cometh to thee from thy Lord that increaseth in most of them their obstinate rebellion and blasphemy. But sorrow thou not over (these) people without Faith.
    Those who believe (in the Qur'an) those who follow the Jewish (Scriptures) and the Sabians and the Christians any who believe in Allah and the Last Day and work righteousness on them shall be no fear nor shall they grieve.
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    wmehar2 got a reaction from Son of Placid in Iranian Military Commander Gen. Qassem Soleimani Killed in Baghdad Strike [BREAKING NEWS]   
    Most likely was.   Iran is not foolish, they know their position as well as the US.
    It's now being reported that there were no casualties for the Americans and that the base was given orders to evacuate the strike.
    It seems Iranian leadership took the high road and best compromise.  Appease outraged folks but not seeking war.
    Very commendable.
     
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    wmehar2 reacted to Mohamed1993 in Iranian Military Commander Gen. Qassem Soleimani Killed in Baghdad Strike [BREAKING NEWS]   
    Nope! My guess is they told the US military through the Iraqis they would be bombing the base and they cleared it of all personnel, Iran gets to look tough, US base is bombed, no troops are killed, so there is less need to retaliate. Iran gets to look tough, lie about it on state media that they killed 80 service personnel, but no big deal.  
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    wmehar2 reacted to Hassu93 in Iranian Military Commander Gen. Qassem Soleimani Killed in Baghdad Strike [BREAKING NEWS]   
    I don't believe Iran killed 80 US soldiers. No independent source has verified it. Even Press TV said they couldn't verify independently.
    This might well be a claim to appease the Iranian people.
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    wmehar2 reacted to Hameedeh in Qur'an Verse Of The Day   
    [Holy Qur'an 3:8] Our Lord! Do not deviate our hearts after You have guided us, and grant for us from Yourself mercy. Indeed You, only You are the Grantor of bounties without measure.
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    wmehar2 reacted to Jannat786 in Qur'an Verse Of The Day   
    Surah Ar-Raʼad (The Thunder) : (13:24)
    سَلَٰمٌ عَلَيْكُم بِمَا صَبَرْتُمْ فَنِعْمَ عُقْبَى ٱلدَّارِ
    ‘Peace be to you, for your patience.’ How excellent is the reward of the [ultimate] abode!
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    wmehar2 reacted to LightUponLight in Qur'an Verse Of The Day   
    It is interesting to note that, there is a 'DUA OF THE DAY,' HADITH OF THE DAY', but, there is no 'VERSE OF THE DAY'
    IS THIS SUPPOSED TO BE AN Islamic FORUM?
    So in what HADITH AFTER THIS will they believe? 77-50
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    wmehar2 got a reaction from Haji 2003 in Iranian Military Commander Gen. Qassem Soleimani Killed in Baghdad Strike [BREAKING NEWS]   
    There can't be a war without a skilled war general.
    Likely no retaliation.
    There are no resources for it nor can the people of Iran tolerate it.
    This strike was a means of dampening influence by proxy war of Iran.  Not to cause a war, so in all likelihood it's not going to happen.
    What's expected is more Western influence on middle eastern affairs therefore more control.
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    wmehar2 got a reaction from Gaius I. Caesar in Iranian Military Commander Gen. Qassem Soleimani Killed in Baghdad Strike [BREAKING NEWS]   
    There can't be a war without a skilled war general.
    Likely no retaliation.
    There are no resources for it nor can the people of Iran tolerate it.
    This strike was a means of dampening influence by proxy war of Iran.  Not to cause a war, so in all likelihood it's not going to happen.
    What's expected is more Western influence on middle eastern affairs therefore more control.
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    wmehar2 got a reaction from Kaya in Iranian Military Commander Gen. Qassem Soleimani Killed in Baghdad Strike [BREAKING NEWS]   
    There can't be a war without a skilled war general.
    Likely no retaliation.
    There are no resources for it nor can the people of Iran tolerate it.
    This strike was a means of dampening influence by proxy war of Iran.  Not to cause a war, so in all likelihood it's not going to happen.
    What's expected is more Western influence on middle eastern affairs therefore more control.
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    wmehar2 got a reaction from Shahrukh K in Hadith Rejectors - Muslim, Hypocrites, etc   
    I argue those who understand that even among Muslims that have differing interpretations  ..regardless don’t  call themselves or the other group ..."the saved" or "damned" sect, and protect each other knowing Allah will settle their dispute. And act as one,  that those are among  those of possesed minds:
     
    It is He who sent down upon thee the Book, wherein are verses clear that are the Essence of the Book, and others ambiguous. As for those in whose hearts is swerving, they follow the ambiguous part, desiring dissension, and desiring its interpretation; and none knows its interpretation, save only God. And those firmly rooted in knowledge say, 'We believe in it; all is from our Lord'; yet none remembers, but men possessed of minds.
     
    That these are Muslims.
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    wmehar2 got a reaction from Shahrukh K in Hadith Rejectors - Muslim, Hypocrites, etc   
    Never did.
    But if you followed something that has been misrepresented as his example or commands .. yes. There is an issue.
    There is a risk hadith are not from the Prophet or are but missing  vital context.
    If we see something contradict Qur'an we know there is an issue .   Hadith shouldn't have to explain contradictions that other hadith  have with Qur'an
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    wmehar2 got a reaction from Shahrukh K in Hadith Rejectors - Muslim, Hypocrites, etc   
    The command and directive to us is to follow Allah's message is it not?
    The verse you quoted..tells that we are to be taught the book, and the verses after that talk about those who turn away.
    Verse after:
    And who would be averse to the religion of Abraham except one who makes a fool of himself. And We had chosen him in this world, and indeed he, in the Hereafter, will be among the righteous
    why does Allah give reward to Christians and Jews In Qur'an? They don't follow Sunnah of Muhammad or pray like him. 
    Respectfully brother,  you're not answering my question.
    the Prophet did not give us a command to follow his sunnah and example nor did the Qur'an.
    obeying the Prophets command is NOT the same as being commanded to follow his example.
     
    the Prophets example was to follow what was revealed to him per the Quranic verses. The Prophet ONLY followed what was revealed to him ...which is Qur'an.
    so the Prophets example sunnah, is... following Qur'an.  
    the Prophet gave direction and commands to those who we alive in his time  and some to to a all of us after (see ashtiname of Muhammad) which are specific and preserved as they were written down and singed with his hand. 
    However the hadith I don’t have such security  of commands to us who come after the Ansar.
     
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    wmehar2 got a reaction from Shahrukh K in Hadith Rejectors - Muslim, Hypocrites, etc   
    Muhammad does not explain it. Allah explains.
    See verses 55:1-2.
    Where does it say bring Allah's hadith. When Allah's hadith is Qur'an ?
     
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    wmehar2 got a reaction from Shahrukh K in Hadith Rejectors - Muslim, Hypocrites, etc   
    Well I'm not entirely opposed.  I reasoned it's either revealed only in stages to Muhammad or ummah, or revealed all on night of al qadr and revealed again in stages but not absorbed all by Muhammad that night.
    I cannot find absolutely explicit detail concerning amount revealed on laylatulqadr.
    "Indeed we are sending" indicates  present tense not past tense (sent). From chapter 44, so I lean towards only revealed in stages during Muhammad's life. 
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    wmehar2 got a reaction from Shahrukh K in Hadith Rejectors - Muslim, Hypocrites, etc   
    We interpret these different brother. I would also include verse 5.  The plain word by word translation :
    44: 2-5
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    By the book, the clear
    Indeed We revealed it in a night blessed
    Indeed We are warning
    Therein is made distinct every affair wise
    a command from us
    Indeed We are sending *******
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    I have pondered over this before...... I think I've reasoned it was possible but not likely that it was all revealed all in one night, (which is not really a conclusio) .    But if so it was not absorbed completely.  Ill show you why I think as such.
    Firstly I'm not seeing direct statement here ..that it was all revealed in one night.
    It begins by saying by the " Book , the clear !"  Like your translation I see that as swearing by it.
    Indeed we revealed it on a blessed night (can mean parts or all of it)
    Indeed We are warning 
    ***Therein is made distinct every affair wise a command from us Indeed We are sending ***
    I read this as a part of completing the first statement,  "  I swear by the clear book that was revealed on blessed night "  that in the Book is every wise affair/command made distinct .
    Simply : Guidance for all affairs distinct,  which are also a command (to obey ).... 
    Then... "Indeed we are sending"
    Why Is it not "indeed we have sent ?" Why not "indeed we have warned?"
    My only conclusion could be the qurans existence was revealed to Muhammad, with the initial verses he recieved. The verses continue to be sent and continue to be as warning. 
     The Qur'an/book preexisted Muhammad, but Muhammad had no knowledge of it per other Qur'an verses.
    Along with other verses mentioned here.
    If Muhammad was for example, revealed the Qur'an before he was born or when he was born, the statement that "it was not known to me " becomes redundant and unnecessary. So why did Allah command him to say that ?
    Therefore , these reasons are sufficient to me that Qur'an was not entirely revealed to Muhammad until the final verse towards end of 23 years.  
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    wmehar2 got a reaction from Shahrukh K in Hadith Rejectors - Muslim, Hypocrites, etc   
    It could not have been in one night, we know this from Qur'an
    25:32
    The unbelievers say, 'Why has the Koran not been sent down upon him all at once?' Even so, that We may strengthen thy heart thereby, and We have chanted it very distinctly.
    I believe Allah would have defended a
    gainst this lie and told us in the verse that it was ALL sent down all at once. But it wasn't so. 
    I do not dispute the books preexistance..
    In the 97th chapter,   it begins
    Behold, We sent it down on the Night of Power;
    Unfortunately this verse alone doesn't provide details to the extent if the entire Qur'an was provided or the first revealed verses.  
    I'm not against the idea that it all could have been revealed but if that happened Muhammad did not memorize/absorb it all in that one night. Otherwise we'll have contradiction with 11:49
    Please answer my question I really want to understand you here. 
    17:106
    and a Koran We have divided, for thee to recite it to mankind at intervals, and We have sent it down successively
    this verse is also pretty concrete in determining that it came in pieces. 
     
    there is also 
    24:11
    Those who came with the slander are a band of you; do not reckon it evil for you; rather it is good for you. Every man of them shall have the sin that he has earned charged to him; and whosoever of them took upon himself the greater part of it, him there awaits a mighty chastisement.
     
    We're not the Prophet and the people waiting for this verse to be revealed about Aisha?
     
    evidence seems overwhelming to indicate it was sent in pieces/revealed in peices. 
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    wmehar2 got a reaction from Shahrukh K in Hadith Rejectors - Muslim, Hypocrites, etc   
    So how do you understand the verse where it says, "this is news of unseen" revealed to Prophet, that he and people did not know it before the verse was revealed. 
    What is your understanding,  or tafsir if you don't have personal understanding ?
    Qur'an is message and guidance from Allah and is truth.
    The verse plainly explains Muhammad knew not the news of ghayb. And now and the rest of people know upon learning the verse.
    ..... if Muhammad didnt know before the verse was revealed then he could not have known before it was revealed.  Otherwise a contradiction exists and the Qur'an is relegated  as an invention of man and to be discarded nauzubillah.
    41:42
    falsehood comes not to it from before it nor from behind it; a sending down from One All-wise, All-laudable.
     
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