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  1. you cant marry the wives of rasulallah, hence the title mother of the believers. it would be highly illogical to think that god praised the wives by saying that, when aisha fought against imam ali (as) at battle of jamal resulting in mass destruction of muslims.
  2. because i dont wanna pray and fast with a shaky iman. if someone tells me x and y is kafir, and then another one tells me A and B she married x and y, it raises questions which i need to clarify for myself, otherwise i will think everything is made up and subsequently my aqeeda will have a shaky basis.
  3. here sayyed kamal haidari compares the 2 wives of the prophet. and the aya where umar and abu bakr raises their voices over the prophet's, didnt that aya condemn, or am i wrong?
  4. @Lover of Ahlulbait (ams) love open minded people like you.
  5. noone dislikes you brother, nor are we zionists who have an agenda towards you.
  6. okey so with other words A* and U* werent K*, they were muslims who just happened to go a bit astray? and therefore there was no sin from imam ali's (as) side in giving um kulthum (as) to U*? (even though it was by force).
  7. no brother, this thread concerns um kulthums (as) marriage to umar and why imam (as) let it happen even though it was by force.
  8. brother, i dont believe the things you accuse me of. if you prove me otherwise from the quran i will say ok, im not ignorant. why not answer the question instead of bringing our maraja into the discussion. and no this is not a debate, i want to clarify things for my own sake. you remind me of some sunni scholars who says "its better not to delve into the battle of jamal to deeply, because it would raise questions". what kind of religion is this, not be able to delve into things and think objectively?
  9. im not calling them kuffar brother, our sheikhein do. try to answer the question instead of talking about other stuff.
  10. the marriage is proved here. http://www.revivingalislam.com/2010/12/umars-marriage-to-umm-kulthum.html
  11. sorry, didnt read the rules. but im not calling them kafirs, scholars call them that and they show proof from the quran, and i find it illogical that um kulthum was married to umar.
  12. yeah, umar when he raised his voice against prophet's, aisha when god said if u dont repent then u will be exactly as protphet lut's wife.
  13. http://www.revivingalislam.com/2010/12/umars-marriage-to-umm-kulthum.html
  14. So ali (as) and um kulthum (as) didnt know umar was a kafir, but we in 2016 know that?
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