Sirius_Bright

*sigh* Always so fussy about the minutest detail, even when that detail was intended as an expression. 
I never once stated that the majority left for Saqifa, only that the majority of the sahaba weren't present at the funeral, with special emphasis on the two you revere so much: Abu Bakr and Umar. 
Sober? How can you talk about being sober when your drunk on love for the ones who destroyed the Muslim Ummah? Moreover, sister zainabamy is a revert who has already discovered the truth through rigorous research. Yet here you are telling us what's what. This isn't Batman v Superman, mate --- we don't espouse hero-worship.
Now, could you for the nth time answer the question? Thank you.

Congrats
 اللّهُمّ صَلّ عَلَى مُحَمّدٍ وَآلِ مُحَمّدٍ
  Allahumma salle ala Mohammediw wa ale Mohammed wa ajjil farajahum wal an aa'dahum ajmaeen. 

Allah Humma Salle Ala Muhammadin Wa Aal-e-Muhammad, Wa Aj'jil Faraja Hum

my official 500th post on shia chat  , Allahuma saliallah Muhammad wa ahle Muhammad wa ajil faraja-hoom

اللهم صل على محمد و آل محمد و عجل فرجهم والعن عدوهم من الجن والانس اجمعين

Allahumma salli ala Muhammad wa Ahli Muhammad wa Ajil Faraj Hum

Allah humma salli ala Muhammadin wa ali Muhammad

Nope you couldn't find one. you didn't took pain to search on Internet. And there are many, are you new on the earth. Probably you should go back to stone age. The reason I'm not interested to post here is that it is not related to our thread. Since you didn't have any reply to actual question and are not able to defend your 'heroes' you are diverting the topic.
Just because you are too adamant to discuss this topic out of context (of this thread), I'll present you couple of narration for the sake of brevity. Keep in mind that this topic is too vast and have multiple angles.
1.ACCEPTANCE OF NAUWI, FAMOUS SCHOLAR WHO WROTE
EXPLANATION OF SAHIH MUSLIM, THAT UMAR WAS SON-IN-LAW
OF ABU BAKAR
Some scholars of ahlusunnah have accepted that Umm Kulthum who married Umar, she was daughter
of Abu bakar
Mohi ud Deen Nauwi writes in his book Tehzeeb ul Isma that Umar had married daughter of Abu
Bakar
Ayesha had two sisters which are the one mentioned in talk of Abu Bakar with
Ayesha, These were two brothers and two sisters. Ayesha had asked: I have two
brothers, but where did I get two sisters from? Abu Bakar replied that the one in
womb of daughter of Kharija, I guess she is girl. This is mentioned in chapter of “al
haba min al mahdhab”. And they have been mentioned in Isma ur Rijal, and these
daughters are Isma bint Abu Bakar, and Umm Kulthum; She is the one in womb of
mother, and we have talked of her in incident before. And this Umm Kulthum was the
one who married Umar bin Khitaab.
 
2. Ayatullah Mar’ashi (Shia Scholar), who had the lineage of all Ahlulbait, he writes in footnotes of Sharah Ahqaaq ul
Haq this opinion, and consider it to be opinion of researchers
She migrated to Habsha with her husband and came back to Madina. After Jafar, she
married Abu bakar and gave birth to children which included Umm Kulthum, and
Imam Ali asws raised her, and she married Umar. She was the adopted daughter of
Imam Ali asws, and was like her daughter. Imam Ali asws called Mohammad bin Abu
bakar his son, and Umm Kulthum as his daughter. And that made scholars of hadeeth
and history confused and they got in this doubt you saw. There are many such
mistakes which happen to due Name or Character being shared. After abu bakar,
Imam Ali asws had married her.
Shaikh Saduq has relied upon this book. Also Shaikh Mufeed considers part of it as 'unreliable' and not the whole book. Also if there is a tradition which is weak, still you cannot discard it. It is weak not fabricated. Understand the difference. We do not have a shia version of Abu Hurairah.
If you think Abu ayyash is a weak narrator but sulaym is reliable than know that the same narration (almost) is reported in the book Haqqul Yaqeen (under Atrocities on Ahlulbayt), biharul Anwar (vol.28), etc,etc. You didn't do your 'homework' of searching on the web, nor did you read your own books. You didn't had to go anywhere, things are available on shiachat itself. Now let me provide you just one by brother NoorFatima (May Allah(swt) bless him) that will break strongest bone of your empty mind.
Note that for my belief I'll rely on my books, your books, ahadith and riwayat (narrations) doesn't have any significance.
I do homework and will continue to do so all my life I.A. (From cradle to grave?)
Sorry no prize for you. This isn't about Ilmul ghaib. It's just plain logic.
Here are three traditions from Imam al-Sadiq (as), who, when commenting on this verse (Surah Al-Hamd: 6),
said:
"It is the 'way' and the 'cognizance' of Imamate". (Nur-uth-Thaqalayn, vol. 1,p. 21, tradition 88)
Again, in another tradition, he (as) says:
"By Allah, we (Ahlul Bayt) are the 'Straight Path' ". (Ibid, tradition 89)
Another tradition from the same Imam (as) says:
"The' Straight Path' is Amir-ul-Mu'mineen Ali (as)". (Ibid, tradition 94)
So, now when you decided to leave Ameerul momeneen and Ahlulbayt how can you be on Seratul Mustaqeem.
Of course when we talk about Prophet's funeral, the discussion will be about missing guys.
Ps: Don't go off topic, if you don't know the proper reply of the thread then better be keep quiet.
 

Nope you couldn't find one. you didn't took pain to search on Internet. And there are many, are you new on the earth. Probably you should go back to stone age. The reason I'm not interested to post here is that it is not related to our thread. Since you didn't have any reply to actual question and are not able to defend your 'heroes' you are diverting the topic.
Just because you are too adamant to discuss this topic out of context (of this thread), I'll present you couple of narration for the sake of brevity. Keep in mind that this topic is too vast and have multiple angles.
1.ACCEPTANCE OF NAUWI, FAMOUS SCHOLAR WHO WROTE
EXPLANATION OF SAHIH MUSLIM, THAT UMAR WAS SON-IN-LAW
OF ABU BAKAR
Some scholars of ahlusunnah have accepted that Umm Kulthum who married Umar, she was daughter
of Abu bakar
Mohi ud Deen Nauwi writes in his book Tehzeeb ul Isma that Umar had married daughter of Abu
Bakar
Ayesha had two sisters which are the one mentioned in talk of Abu Bakar with
Ayesha, These were two brothers and two sisters. Ayesha had asked: I have two
brothers, but where did I get two sisters from? Abu Bakar replied that the one in
womb of daughter of Kharija, I guess she is girl. This is mentioned in chapter of “al
haba min al mahdhab”. And they have been mentioned in Isma ur Rijal, and these
daughters are Isma bint Abu Bakar, and Umm Kulthum; She is the one in womb of
mother, and we have talked of her in incident before. And this Umm Kulthum was the
one who married Umar bin Khitaab.
 
2. Ayatullah Mar’ashi (Shia Scholar), who had the lineage of all Ahlulbait, he writes in footnotes of Sharah Ahqaaq ul
Haq this opinion, and consider it to be opinion of researchers
She migrated to Habsha with her husband and came back to Madina. After Jafar, she
married Abu bakar and gave birth to children which included Umm Kulthum, and
Imam Ali asws raised her, and she married Umar. She was the adopted daughter of
Imam Ali asws, and was like her daughter. Imam Ali asws called Mohammad bin Abu
bakar his son, and Umm Kulthum as his daughter. And that made scholars of hadeeth
and history confused and they got in this doubt you saw. There are many such
mistakes which happen to due Name or Character being shared. After abu bakar,
Imam Ali asws had married her.
Shaikh Saduq has relied upon this book. Also Shaikh Mufeed considers part of it as 'unreliable' and not the whole book. Also if there is a tradition which is weak, still you cannot discard it. It is weak not fabricated. Understand the difference. We do not have a shia version of Abu Hurairah.
If you think Abu ayyash is a weak narrator but sulaym is reliable than know that the same narration (almost) is reported in the book Haqqul Yaqeen (under Atrocities on Ahlulbayt), biharul Anwar (vol.28), etc,etc. You didn't do your 'homework' of searching on the web, nor did you read your own books. You didn't had to go anywhere, things are available on shiachat itself. Now let me provide you just one by brother NoorFatima (May Allah(swt) bless him) that will break strongest bone of your empty mind.
Note that for my belief I'll rely on my books, your books, ahadith and riwayat (narrations) doesn't have any significance.
I do homework and will continue to do so all my life I.A. (From cradle to grave?)
Sorry no prize for you. This isn't about Ilmul ghaib. It's just plain logic.
Here are three traditions from Imam al-Sadiq (as), who, when commenting on this verse (Surah Al-Hamd: 6),
said:
"It is the 'way' and the 'cognizance' of Imamate". (Nur-uth-Thaqalayn, vol. 1,p. 21, tradition 88)
Again, in another tradition, he (as) says:
"By Allah, we (Ahlul Bayt) are the 'Straight Path' ". (Ibid, tradition 89)
Another tradition from the same Imam (as) says:
"The' Straight Path' is Amir-ul-Mu'mineen Ali (as)". (Ibid, tradition 94)
So, now when you decided to leave Ameerul momeneen and Ahlulbayt how can you be on Seratul Mustaqeem.
Of course when we talk about Prophet's funeral, the discussion will be about missing guys.
Ps: Don't go off topic, if you don't know the proper reply of the thread then better be keep quiet.
 

(bismillah)

I believe I have been quite for some time, and I would love to challenge the concept that the attack never took place, not only so, but Lady Fatima was never personally attacked by Umar or Qunfudh, as some people would like us to believe, "they only threatened to burn the house, and that was it" - I would like to point out here that a lot of people have been effected by such baseless claims, to the point, they began to believe such none-sense. Before we go into this discussion, I would like to point out that religious and historical evidence will be at the bulk of my argument that the attack did take place, and our Madh'hab has made a complete Ijma3 on this issue, even if some turbaned men would like us to believe otherwise.

I would also like to point out, using our emotions when it comes to this discussion will be a major flaw sense using terms like "Its Fatima, it's impossible that they would attack her", or "She has been pushed, hit, slapped, and kicked, yet she survived", or "Where was Imam Ali? How can this brave soldier and warrior allow this to happen?" - such rude and foolish comments should not be used when coming to an event that is well documented by the Sahaba who witnessed this shameful and disgusting act Umar, Khalid, and Qunfudh led against the house of the Prophet on that fateful day. Let’s not also forget Abu Bakr, who ordered the Attack after Umar convinced him of doing so, so before analysing what ShiaBro_UK said, I would like you all to think for a moment that those who attacked the house of Lady Fatima, are the same people who said on the death bed of the Prophet "The man is Hallucinating", and the same people who accused the Prophet in Sulh AlHuddibiya "Are you truly the messenger of God?" - lets not forget that some people are keen on getting what they want, no matter who they have to go through, and history documented everything that took place on that day.

Before I begin my analyzying of what was presented by Shiabro_UK, I would like you all to picture this, The True Sahaba of the Prophet, great men like Umar Ibn Yasser, Salman Al-Mohammadi, Al-Meqdad, Abu Darr, Bilal, and Ibn Abbas (Al-Zhubair was in the house as well) were all assembled at the house of Lady Fatima, while a mob, led by Umar is gathering outside, the torch in his hand, and he's yelling " Oh Ali, get out of your hiding place, or so help me God I'll torch your house to the ground" - think of this shameful image, as we look carefully into the points that were made on this thread.

Brother Shiabro_UK, may I ask you if you have read our Shia History? Have you read what our great scholars, beginning with the great four Sheikhs of their time, Sheikh Al- Mofeed, Sheikh Al-Murtadha, Sheikh Al-Tussi, and Sheikh Al-Qummi, have you read their books in regards to the attack on the house? Have you read Kitab Saleem Ibn Qees Al-Hilaali? Have you read what our great Imams have said in regards to Muhsen? In regards to the broken Rib? In regards to the mesmar/nail? If you have not, then on what basis are you here raising these suspicions while our entire Ta’efa has made an Ijma on this issue? Even though I'm extremely disappointed in this thread, it would not have been a surprise if a Nasibi has began this thread, but to see a person calling himself a "shia" opening such a thread is extremely upsetting. But I would like to thank you for doing so, now everyone here can read and see for themselves, that this tragedy did take place, and I urge that everyone would save this proof when I present it, so from now on, if any Muwali enquires about this issue, the proof would be presented to him with ease.



First of all, this incident took place after they set the house a blaze, Umar ordered Qunfudh to set the door on fire, while Qunfhudh was trying to place the wood near the door, the Lady of Light stood in Qunfudh's way to prevent him from doing such an act. Umar here raised his hand and said "Oh daughter of Muhammad, move out of the way!" - The Holy Lady refused to move, and said "I will not let you burn down the house on my children, for the sake of Muhammad, leave us alone" - here Umar could not bare it that Lady Fatima has began to cry out load, appealing to the crowed that gathered in the streets to witness this horrible event. Umar then took the whip out of Qunfudhs hand, and hit the side of her Lady until she moved out of the way. Lady Fatima herself testifies to this incident before her death, she says:

"They have gathered the wood near our door, then they came with a torch to set the house on fire, they wanted to burn us, then I stood before the door, and appealed with them in the name of God, and in the name of my father, I told them to leave, and let us be, Umar took the whip out of the hands of Qunfudh (Abu Bakr's servant), and he hit my side and back with the whip, till the whip tore on my side"

This hadeeth is narrated by Al-Daylami, and is directly narrated from The Lady of Light, the hadeeth can be found at: Al-Bihar, Volume 8, Page 231 - Also Abihar, Volume 28, Page 51 - Amali Al-Sadooq, Page 118 (I have 20 different references for this hadeeth, if they are requested, I'll translate them for everyone)

Now this hadeeth was also corrected, and authenticated by Sheikh Al-Mofeed himself, he said that - "this hadeeth is from her Lady, and her sorrowful words are accurate with what the Umma has recorded" - Al-Amali Lil-Mofeed on Pages 49-50.

It's also very interesting to see that Sheikh Al-Majlisi also reports that before the attack on the house, Abu Bakr wrote a book to Lady Fatima which declares that Faddak has been returned to her, in some traditions, it says that the book was given to Fidha, and others say that it was Lady Fatima who was summoned, and given the book by Abu Bakr after the confrontation in the Mosque:

"On her way back, Umar saw the Holy Lady, and asked her: "Oh Daughter of Muhammed, what is this book I see in your hands?", the Holy Lady replied: "It is my right, Abu Bakr has returned it to me", Umar become extremely angry, he ordered Fatima to give him the book, and she refused. Umar then raised a whip to hit the Lady, but the Lady was surprised and scared, she dropped the book, and Umar took it" - Al-Bihar, Volume 29, Page 192. Also Sheikh Al-Mofeed has narrated this hadeeth, but in a shorter version - Al-Ikhtisas on Page 185. (I have 7 other versions of this hadeeth and their references)

The interesting thing about this hadeeth is that Umar was going to hit Fatima Al-Zahra before the attack on the house, he at least managed to scare her to the point she dropped the book, which implies that since it worked in scaring off the Holy Lady, he can do the same thing when he attacked the house. This implies that Umar is willing to use the whip against the Lady in forcefully giving in to these demands, and his actions in taking the Book, are evident against him for his brutal nature.

I also have ahadeeth showing how just brutal Umar really is, his history (as recorded by Sunni Historians) is tainted by his violence against woman, and I will give you couple of examples to show, that Umar was no Problem what so ever in hitting woman, or anyone who comes in his way, no matter who they are.

It is reported that Umar himself use to torture the servant of Bani Mu'mal, he use to beat her to the point when he gets bored, he says: "I apologize, I have only stopped because of boredom" - Al-Sera Al-Nabawiya by Ibn Hisham, Volume 1, Page 341, and Al-Sera Al-Halbiya, Volume 1, page 300, and AlSera Al-Nabawiya by Ibn Katheer, Volume 1, page 394, and Al-Muhabar page 184.

Also, books that deal with history has recorded that when Uthman Ibn Madh3oon past away, woman gathered to weep his death, Umar became angry at the scene and started hitting the woman with his whip, the Holy Prophet took the whip away from Umar's hand and said: "Wait ya Umar, let them cry...." - Mesnad Ahmed Ibn Hanbal, Volume 1, Page 237 and 335, and Mustadrak Al-Hakim, Volume 3, Page 190, and this hadeeth was authenticated by Al-Dhahabi in his Talkhees which is printed in his Hamish, and this hadeeth is reported through Saleh. And reported in Mesnad Al-Tiyalsi on Page 351, and Mujma3 Al-Zawa'ed, Volume 3, page 17.

I really don't want to go into depth of which woman were terrorized by Umar and his whip, there are numerous examples of woman that were hit by Umar's whip like Abu Bakr's sister. If you guys like me to write the hadeeth down, let me know, I hope my point has been proven by now that Umar has no shame when it comes to hitting woman sense it's in his nature and his "clean" record does show this.


I don't know if the comment in brackets suppose to be amusing or funny to you, but I would like to say that I feel nothing but utter disgust and disappointment that a Shia would say such a thing. It's also very disappointing to see that this matter is taken lightly by you that you have to resort to side comments that serve no one but our enemies. Anyways, I will show you that our great scholars narrated from our Imams and great Sahaba that the door was broken down, crushing her Lady in the Process, and driving the nail into her chest.

It is reported by Saleem Ibn Qees, from Abdullah Ibn Abbas, that he said, and Jabbir Ibn Abdullah was next to him: That the holy prophet said to Ali after a long speech:

"Oh Ali, Qureesh will protest against you, and their word will unite to oppress you and subdue you, if you find those who would help you, rebel, if you don't find any who would help you, lower your hand, and protect your blood, Martyrdom is coming after you, May Allah damn he who kills you. - Then the Holy Prophet turned his speech to Lady Fatima and said: "Oh Fatima, do not become grieved, you are the first of my family to follow me, and you are the mistress of the woman of the world, and after me, you shall see pain and grief , and your dear rib will break, May Allah damn he who kills you" - Kitab Saleem Ibn Qees, Volume 2, Page 907 (I have 8 different ahadeeth about breaking the ribs of Lady Fatima, foretold by the Prophet).

Reported by Ibn Abban, that Saleem said: "I ran to the Mosque of the Prophet, and I found no one (In Alhalqa) in it except Bani Hashim, Salman, and Abi Dharr, and Miqdad, and Muhammad Ibn Abi Bakr, and Amr Ibn Abi Salamah, and Qees Ibn Sa'ad Ibn Ubadah, then Al-Abbas said to Ali: "HAVE YOU NOT SEEN UMAR HIT FATIMA WHILE SHE WAS STANDING IN HIS WAY?' - Imam Ali turned to him, and his eyes were full of tears and said: "It was a hit Umar hit Fatima with the whip, as she went back he broke her rib......" - Bihar Al-Anwar, Volume 30, page 302-303, Kitab Saleem Ibn Qees, Volume 2, page 674, and Al-Awalim, volume 11, page 413 (I have 11 other ahadeeth with different wordings from Imam Ali that Umar shoved the door, and broke her Holy Rib. I also have 102 different Shia references that Umar broke the door, while Lady Fatima was behind the door - If you guys want me to translate more ahadeeths or references, please let me know)


Before I go on with the nail going through her Lady's chest, I would like to point out that I have more than 50 different narrations from all 12 Imams saying that Umar broke the door, and crushed Lady Fatima between the door and the wall, I just provided two narrations above from the Holy Prophet and Imam Ali, some of these ahadeeth are very long, so please excuse me for not translating all of them, as I said above, there are over 100 narrations explaining the attack, and the crushing of Lady Fatima.

From Ibi Al-Hassan Ibn Shadhan, From his father, from Muhammad Ibn Al-Hassan Bin Al-Waleed, from Muhammad Ibn Al-Hussayn Bin Al-Saffa'r, from Muhammad Ibn Zyad, From Mofazal Bin Umar, from Yunis Ibn Ya'qoob, from Al-Saddiq that he said in a long speech: "Oh Yunis, my grandfather the Holy Prophet has said: "He who oppress my daughter fatima (after my departure) is damned, and usurps her right, and kills her" - Usool Al-Kafim, volume 6, page 18, Al-Bihar, volume 43, page 195.

Now we all know who usurped the land, and we know who killed her (may Allah bless her), but how? Was it just the crushing? Was it just the whip? No by God, but it was the nail that was thrusted in her chest!

Our Philosopher, Ayatullah Al-Udhma Al-Muhaqiq, Al-Sheikh Muhammad Huusayn Al-Asfahani said in his tragic poem: " Oh have I known the news of the Nail – Thrust though her chest, the mysterious volt" , his eminence also reported from Shibl Al-Dawla, Muqatil Ibn Atiya: "and when Fatima came behind the door, to escape from Umar and his party, Umar crushed Fatima between the door and the wall, until she dropped Muhsen, and her chest become the home of the nail in the door, and she scared: "Ya Abatah, Ya rasool Allah!..." - Mu'tamar Ulama'a Baghdad, page 135 (Also this book narrates 26 different narrations about Al-Mesmar, 12 of them are from Kitab Saleem - And I can translate some, if you guys like).


Before I start with the historical evidence, I think it's extremely lame to say "imagine that", please have respect, and have sincerity, trying to turn this thread into a light hearted "discussion" will not work, If people want to discuss this topic in a serious light, please be serious when you ask, and enough with the stupid commentary.

Al-Alama AlMajlissi reports in Al-Bihar, and his master, Sheikh Al-Mofeed reports in his book Al-Ikhtisas from Lady Fatima her self Narrates: "When Umar came with the whip, he hit me on my side and back until I couldn't bare the pain, then he came forcefully towards me and struck my face with his hands till my earnings fell!" - AlIkhtisas, page 185, and Al-Bihar, Volume 29, page 192 (I also have 14 different references for this hadeeth alone, also four different ahadeeths with the same meaning as this one).

So please let’s not act over dramatic here, history points out that this event took place, and the interesting thing is that Lady Fatima herself narrates this tragic incident, and this hadeeth above is correct by our two giants above (Sheikh Al-mofeed, and Sheikh Al-Majlissi).


Wallhi Ya Akhee Shiabro, I don't know if you're being sincere or not, but your side comments are extremely annoying, and I really suggest if you are sincere, then please avoid using these comments, as I type this reply to you, my heart is full of grief, and full of pain for her Lady, for the past three days, I have been reading extremely painful ahadeeth shows the attacks on her lady, so please be serious.

First of all, I don't know from where you got that her Lady was kicked by anyone, the ahadeeth and reports that explain the attack on the house didn't mention anything about kicking her Lady, be it Umar, or anyone else. As for the killing of Muhsen, as you can read from some of the ahadeeth I mentioned above, he was killed when her lady was crushed between the door and the wall, and not by being "kicked". As for Muhsen's existence, all of our Holy Imams narrate that he existed, and he was killed when the attack took place on the house. Also our great giants have agreed on an Ijma'a that Muhsen was alive, including Sheikh Al-Mofeed and Sheikh Al-Tussi. So I don't quite see what's the problem here?


This is why I asked you earlier if you read our history, it seems that you didn't, which makes me wonder why you asked such serious questions without researching first. If you have researched, you would realize that Imam Ali never witnessed the attack on Al-Zahra'a, he was sitting inside the house, while her holiness was attacked by the door. Imam Hasan Al-Mujtaba himself says this when he was talking to his father: "Oh father, no one (from the people who were inside the house) has seen Umar hitting my mother except me, I saw him hit her until she fell on the ground" - then the Imam turned to his father and said: "Oh father, I feared if I told you of what has happened, you would break the promise you gave to my grandfather!" - This hadeeth is reported by Sheikh AbdulHameed Al-Muhajir, in his lecture during the nights Al-Fatimiya, night 6, and he gives the references which include Al-Fal, Al-Bihar, Wasa'el Al-Shi3a, and other books like Al-Ikhtisas and Ikmal Al-Dean (Please let me know if you need the exact references, I'll get them insha'Allah).


This is the same thing Sayed Fadhullah said to support his argument, and let me say, who are these "hundreds of people" who love Fatima? If you are talking about her attackers, then let me tell you no one there really loved her since they attacked her, if you are talking about the people who stood outside, watched and did nothing, then I ask you this question: "Did not the Muslimeen love his holy prophet? Where they were when Umar said: "The Man is hallucinating?" Why didn't any of those "hundreds" say something to Umar? No one even frowned at Umar, why? Didn't those "Hundreds" love Imam Al-Hussayn? Where they were when they left the grandson of their prophet die alone in Karbala? Please don't say things that have no meaning, if these people cared, they would have stayed true to their Bay'a in Ghadeer, not revoke it, and give another to Abu Bakr.


Obviously you, and apparently Sayed fadhullah as well never read Bihar Al-Anwar and Wasae'l Al-Shi3a, it is reported that Imam Ali took out his sword, and put on his armor to fight them (Abu Bakr and Umar) , he went to the Mosque to face them, the Imam said: "Ya Ibn Abi Quhafa, I have a pledge not to rebel when my right is usurpt but I never made a pledge to keep silent on what you are about to do (they wanted to dig every single grave they suspect that her Lady was buried in) - The Imam raised his sword, and turned to Umar: "Wallah, I kept silent when you attacked my house, but today, if you do what you're set on, I will fill the earth with your blood, and tear your heads off your bodies, till qureesh submitts to what I have done to you!" - Abu Bakr screamed and said: "By God, we will not, Oh Ali, return to your house, and we will never do what we were set on doing!" - When the Imam left, Umar turned to Abu Bakr and said: "Why have you sworn?", Abu Bakr replied: "Did you see the look in his eyes? Who of your "Asheera"/tribe will avenge your death? - Bihar Al-Anwar, Volume 23, page 254, and Wasa'el AlSh3a, Volume 2, page 120 (other scholars have narrated this hadeeth in their books using other references as well).

The four points you listed are not only proven through Shia historical and scholarly works, but are also proven in Sunni historical and scholarly works, which makes me wonder where all of these Scholars delusional till sayed Fadhullah showed up and cleared a historical and religious "misconception" that existed for the past 1400 years? Wallhi if that's the case, then Bravo, but sadly this isn't the case, nor is it the truth since all of our Imams have narrated this tragedy, even Imam AlHujja said that the first people he would deal with would be those who oppressed Lady Fatima. Not only the Holy Imams, but our four great Giants of Shiasm recorded and analysed all the possibilities which prove that this incident took place. I also find it repulsive that a Shia would start this thread, I especially find the sarcasm to be offensive.

(salam)

People like that will never see sense, they'll always defend their 'perfect' sahabah. 

Unfortunately, it is Shia imagination. It wasn't meant to be accurate; it was more kind of like a numerical expression. The point was that most of the sahaba weren't present.
Now, if you could stop being a pedantic plonker and actually address the issue at hand, that'd be great.

Naturally when talking about the funeral of the Prophet (s), one would also expect to discuss the absence of 95% of the sahaba you revere so much, namely Abu Bakr and Umar.
You passed the whole thing off as 'them wanting to see what was going on', but this leaves much to be answered, like why none of the other prominent companions (e.g. Talhah, Uthman, Miqdad [ra], Salman [ra] etc.) were informed of their little trip three miles outside Medina to a place known to be suspicious. 
Just face the facts, while Umar was having a scuffle with the ansar, the Imam (as) along with another nine or so people were digging the grave of the man who brought the religion in the first place.
 

Make one change at a time until you are content with who you are again. For example, resolve to not lie. Don't worry about your other problems until honesty becomes habitual. When you've mastered one change, move on to the next. Self-improvement is a lifelong process. Everyone has high and low times; you just have to work though them.

Turn to Allah (swt) and talk to Him about your problems. Ask forgiveness and help to achieve your goals. Start slowly and build it up until you're back doing the good things you used to do. In addition, do your best to learn about Islam every day because knowledge will benefit you in Dunya and Akhriah.

Masha Allah brother, you used to pray 5 times Namaz and Quran too before sleep. That itself says that you can do things unlike some others. You know we will imitate a person or obey his command when we heartily like him. We would know everything about him including his social life and to some extent personal life also and will track all his actions. That's called as Ma'refat. To obey our lord's command and bow before Him you need to have His ma'refat, a deep insight into Him. You will achieve this through Ma'refat e Ahlulbayt (ams) for they are the medium to Allah (swt). I believe all other problems of sinning, less good deeds will be rectified through the same. 
--- Raza

I'll check through my books, see realistically which ones I'll never read again, I can send some to your friends - Europe preferably.

Alsalam alikum,
Helping reverts to learn about Ahlulbayt(as) is one of my priorites in this life. I have been in this way since 2008 if I remember well. I have gained a lot of experience thru these years. One of the best ways to introduce reverts to Ahlulbayt(as) that I found is sending books in hard copies to reverts around the world, I tried to contact many foundations in Iran, Kuwait and Lebanon. The one in Iran sends books only about the basic of Islam while we need books that introduce Ahlulbayt(as) to muslims, reverts and non muslims alike, I could not find good support from the second one and the third one can't afford shipping books.
I have a friend whose husband cut amount of his monthly salary to buy and ship books to reverts to learn about Shia Islam and there are a few others who do the same, but these are only indvidual efforts, so they only can send a few books.
So, I encourage you(brothers and sisters) who have books about Ahlulbayt(as)and don't need them to donate your own books to spread the knowledge of Ahlulbayt(as) and to face Salafis who spread rumors about Shia Islam around the world.
"Do not feel ashamed if the amount of charity is small because to refuse the needy is an act of greater shame" Imam Ali ibn Abi Talib(as).
Thanks in advance.

*لَعَنَ اللهُ قَاتِلِيْكِ يَا فَاطِمَةُ الزَّهْرَاء عَلَيْهَا السَّلَام*
اللهم العن جبت و الطاغوت 

اَللَّهُمَّ صَلِّ عَلى مُحَمَّدٍ وَّآلِ مُحَمَّدٍ وَّعَجِّلْ فَرَجَهُمْ وَالْعَنْ أَعْدَائَهُمْ اَجْمَعِيْن

Download arabic keyboard from playstore or appstore OR alternatively you can also download Arabic language pack from keyboard settings. 

*لَعَنَ اللهُ قَاتِلِيْكِ يَا فَاطِمَةُ الزَّهْرَاء عَلَيْهَا السَّلَام*
اللهم العن جبت و الطاغوت 

اَللَّهُمَّ صَلِّ عَلى مُحَمَّدٍ وَّآلِ مُحَمَّدٍ وَّعَجِّلْ فَرَجَهُمْ وَالْعَنْ أَعْدَائَهُمْ اَجْمَعِيْن

Download arabic keyboard from playstore or appstore OR alternatively you can also download Arabic language pack from keyboard settings. 

*لَعَنَ اللهُ قَاتِلِيْكِ يَا فَاطِمَةُ الزَّهْرَاء عَلَيْهَا السَّلَام*
اللهم العن جبت و الطاغوت 

اَللَّهُمَّ صَلِّ عَلى مُحَمَّدٍ وَّآلِ مُحَمَّدٍ وَّعَجِّلْ فَرَجَهُمْ وَالْعَنْ أَعْدَائَهُمْ اَجْمَعِيْن

Allahuma saliallah Muhammad wa ahle Muhammad wa ajil farajahum

1. This has been refuted again and again and again. Go and read your own books. You can dig for that on shiachat also. And in case you have done that and still do not acknowledge the truth then...

Deaf, dumb, and blind,
They will not return (to the path).
(Surah baqarah: 18)
 
2. I can also say both shia and sunni scholars have acknowledged that it was not umme Kulthum binte Ali but binte Abu bakar. Even if any of our scholar believe in your version of history, then it doesn't matter because they are not masoom (infalliable) and we do not believe any of our books as absolute 'sahih'.
 
3. Again this attack on Janabe Zehra's (s.a) house incident is proved more than anything. Read 1st pt. again.
 
Imam Ali (a.s.) was always brave in his lifetime and is still brave and courageous in our hearts through eloquence in his words, courage in the battlefield, humble before Allah (swt), Patient in the time of difficulty, Shining light in the dark history, etc. Is it necessary that a man should fight every other moment to prove his courage. If that's the case than you can say that (nauzam billah) Imam Hussain (a.s.) made a mistake for going towards karbala when he knew that the women of his house will have to bear oppression from the hands of the accursed people. You can say that (God forbid) he should have sent Hazrat Abbas (a.s.) with sword beforehand so that would have denied enemies access to the tents of sayyada Zainab (s.a.). But we believe that our Aimma (ams) were perfect in their wisdom and that was granted by Allah (swt). All they did was for the better.
Additionally if someone believes that Imam (a.s.) did not came to defend Janabe Fatema Zehra (s.a.), then read this:
 
.....Lady Fatimah (AS) said: “O Umar, what do you have to do with us?”
He replied: “Open the door, otherwise we will burn your house.”
Lady Fatimah (AS) said: “O Umar, are you not afraid of Allah and are you
entering our house?”
Umar refused to return. He asked fire to be brought and he set the door on
fire, then he pushed it and entered. Lady Fatimah (AS) came in front and
screamed loudly: “O Father, O Prophet of Allah.”
Umar raised his sword with the shield and hit her on the side. She screamed:
“O Father” He then lifted a whip and hit her on the hand and she cried: “O
Prophet of Allah, Abu Bakr and Umar behaved very badly after you.”
Hadhrat Ali (AS) rushed, held him by the neck and pushed him away and
Umar fell down and hurt his neck and nose. Hadhrat Ali (AS) intended to
kill him. He remembered what the Holy Prophet (SAW) had said, and he
said: “By Him, who gave Muhammad the status of Prophethood, O son of
Sahak, if the Book from Allah had not been revealed and if the Holy Prophet
(SAW) had not taken a promise from me before, then you would have
known that you could have never entered my house.”
(Reference: Kitab Sulaym bin Qais, Hadith no. 04, pg .20)
 
And as br. Vestige pointed out the thread was about funeral of holy prophet (sawa). You clearly have deviated from seratul Mustaqeem... Err.... Sorry you were never on one.