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In the Name of God بسم الله


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  1. This is wrong on so many levels Have you met an Bektasi? Alevi and Bektasi is the same just like naksibendi being part of Sunni Alevis are Bektasi and vice versa
  2. Brothera gain your still at the door of Şeriat, this is not a bad thing but you will not understand the second door Tarīkat, third Mârifet and fourth Hakīkat
  3. Brother it's a little difficult with English This 9 book set explains it clearly by DedeBaba Bedri Noyan
  4. What I meant was Mevlevîs follow the son instead of the father...
  5. You have just interpreted the verses in your own way
  6. Hz Muhammed Said that^ which shows their is 4 doors and 40 levels.
  7. Sharī°at (divine law) is my discourse, tarīkat (the spiritual path) my undertaking, marifat (awareness) my only possession, and hakīkat (reality) my internal state. Al Hadis
  8. I can also say this is false Sufis trace their lineage back to İmam Ali, only the Nakşibendi goes back to Ebu Bekir The Mevlevî tarikat is totally different, the son established the Tarikat not Rumî, their is a lot of Ottoman influence Your still not understanding Vahdet-i Vücut, have you read ibn Arabi? Mansur? Etc Be a bit objective and open minded
  9. Sheikalhabib well you can interpret it how you like brother We believe all 72 people's faith should be respected
  10. Thanks brother but İt is written by Bektasi Baba Rexheb
  11. I also gave sources via Hadiths and Qur'an regarding mystical belief
  12. Khoja Ahmet Yesevi? has 4 doors and 40 levels, mystic too
  13. So if it is not found in Shia, than it's false? I can say this Shia's use to believe in Batini form of islam too until Safi took control.
  14. Mysticism -or Tasawwuf (Sufism), as it is more commonly known Mthroughout the Islamic world -is a wellspring of life for the human soul, for when the spirituality it stirs establishes its throne in the heart with the aid of heavenly directives, all selfishness and materialism fades away; and when this occurs its gifts will come to fruition. Mysticism stimulates a state of awareness that guides those who practice it along the road to perfection. It provides these spiritual wayfarers with an allembracing ethical outlook that purifies the individual of the crass vulgarities manifest in the
  15. Wikipedia? Sorry brother but I don't use that Turkmen Sufis always talk about Ehli-Beyt, for example Hâce Bektaş-î Veli, Ahmet Yesevi, Yunus Emre, Etc After Şah İsmail passed away and during 1600 1800 is when Shi'a took place. Let's see what Hz Ali says You think you are a small entity, but within you is enfolded the entire Universe" Hz Ali Gizli olan her şey O'nun harfleriyle meydana çıkmaktadır. Ve sen varlıksın (ama) duyguları olan (bir) varlıksın. Sende var olan şeyler tanım ve sayıma gelmez.(15) Senin dışarıya gereksinimin yok... Evren adlı
  16. bro they have not entered 4 doors yet hence stuck at seriat
  17. Alevî mystic Hacı bektaş veli: Seek and find. To search / investigate is an open exam. A path without knowledge will end in darkness. Be in control of your hands (actions), tongue (speech), and loins (desires). Whatever you do, do it for the Truth. There exists in you a “there is” to replace every “there isn't.” He who walks the Path never tires. There is no rank or station higher than the Friend's heart. The one who is wise but doesn't share his wisdom is ignorant. To the ignorant, abandoning what is no longer needed is death; to the wise it is birth. There is
  18. Every sect is wrong, not a Single Ahlibeyt were sectarianism, it was the pupils whom established the sects. I doubt Ehlibeyt will say such a thing, if that was the case Sah ISmail will never say he is Sufi Our Alevi Elders chose Islam EHLI-BEYT belief, we are not similar to Sunni or SHIA, we respect all 72 beliefs, no gender seperation etc Turkistan Saints, Horasan Saints Rumeli Saints. Alevi İslam anlayışı, Hallac-ı Mansur, Ebül Vefa, Ahmet Yesevî, Hüseyin Gazi, Seyyit Battal Gazi, Baba İlyas, Hacı Bektaş Velî, Ahi Evren, Mevlana Celaleddîn Rumî, Sarı Saltuk, Kar
  19. I don't think İmâm Ca'fer Sadık Said that, that is division which I doubt the İmâms will do as they love all 72 people
  20. I will get back to you, but my references will be in Turkish brother
  21. Nakşibendis are different they do not believe in Vahdet-i Vücut
  22. İmam Caferi Sadık, şah İsmail were Sufi The people condemning are Şafî origin whom were converted to love Ahlibeyt
  23. Yes but what does it mean by modesty? Physically or within? As in the piousness of the mind and heart equals good soul
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