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  1. @Debate follower Brother Salamunalaykum, I am sorry brother that I am replying back and I have not even read your long response. But through what I saw you were full on criticising shia belief. Well, I don't stop anyone from that. And tbh, you have good debaters and you even might win on me by bringing up your library. You might prove me wrong by bringing up your library. But then what? With your aqeeda, will you be able to establish a strong jurisprudence, a strong system of ijtihad, a really strong ilaahi system which keeps on evolving rather than diminishing? No, you cannot. So, even if you win a debate your aqeeda won't help you in practical life. As I already said, you will disagree with me but not your fitrah. Imamate is fundamental need of society and humankind for a stable divine system. If you are true in what you say, you were always a majority and always in power throughout history but were you able to maintain it? No, because don't have a system to do so. You still have huge wealth. But still muslims are poor. Because you are leaderless. You had huge empires, spanning continents. Some salafis take pride in that time, but if you were soooo great why were unable to maintain it? Even after having wealth, people, scholars, power? In India, sunni brothers were fighting for tripple talaq and imagine a hindu judge was telling them that it is no where in your books. Such a shame and such a mockery they made of religion after having soo much knowledge and support from all sides. Why are only the shias cpming up when Palestine needs support? Prof. Henry Corbin (a convert to Shiism) by the great Allama Tabatabai said, "Shia islam is unique because it is alive. The leaders of all other religions are history. But the leader of shia Islam is still alive and therefore, this religion will stay until it's leader remains." May Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) guide you and bless you.
  2. Imamate is mentioned in the Quran, clearly and explicitly and I think many brothers on shiachat have shed a light upon that. Isn't there in your hadith books written to obey the ruler even if he loots you and kicks you out of your own house? Majority of the shia population opposed the shah. And not only in words, they finally revolted and brought him down. Can it happen in Saudi Arabia? No. The reason is simple, you might be critical about them but a huge population of Sunnis are his sympathisers. Doesn't the ahl hadees and salafis in Pakistan and around the world now supporting the Taliban? Ok, put aside MBS and let us only talk about S. Was king Salman, kings before him really just? They were all tyrants. But the majority of Ahl Sunnah were obedient to them. Also, there is a great majority of sunnis who are marching behind Recip Tayyip Erdogan. Is he righteous? Is he your Imam? My point was this only. As you don't recognize Imamate, you are compelled to accept anyone who sits on the seat of power. Shias never consider Shah or anyone as there Imam. As Imamate amongst Shias is free of any manipulations from any side. Yes. Not complaining about this brother. This is exactly what your mazhab is. Isn't it? Imam Khomeini is called Imam by title (as it means leader). He was the leader of Islamic revolution and in the ideology of wilayat al Faqih, there is a necessity to have a wali e faqih so that this ideology keeps moving. So, in Shias, a fallible person can hold a small degree of leadership, just like you have leaders in subjects (Imam Bukhari, Imam Ahmed bin Hanbal) and that too is rare because in Shia system of hadith sciences and ijtihad, no book is consider authentic and to whatever extent a scholar might do research and to whatever extent a scholar might be certain about contents in his books, his works and the works done before him still remain open for research. So, in Shiism, in terms of Hadith, Fuqh, Usool etc you can have Allama, Ayatullah, Hujjatul Islam, marja etc but not Imam. But to a small extent we are similar in this. By shias, I mean Imamiyah. Zaidis don't consider there Imams as infallible and Ismailis have some extreme complexities in this concept. So, 'fixed and locked' means infallibility. Okay. So, majority will decide who is correct? As if, in the history, the people of moses (عليه السلام) were in majority or people of Ibrahim (عليه السلام) or people of Nuh were in majority. Though, this question is not for me. But if you find a brother in faith who is much more pious and religious and away from sins than you, won't you prefer to ask him to do dua for you? Not saying that you won't pray for yourself directly. But you will ask because you find him more closer to Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) then yourself. This is exactly what tawassul is. Prefer to ask from Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى), but also ask other souls to do dua for you. May Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) bless you and be your guide and protector.
  3. It came from US and went to US. Your govt. took it from tax payers and payed it to the rich corporates. Yes, offcourse they were ok to create some mess in Afghanistan.
  4. Gave back the zakaat collected by Abu Sufyan to him only instead of keeping it for the poor so that he allows him to rule. Don't worry brother. Time will change. Sane minds know that one day the tides will change. The hypocrites will be recognized by there stains. May Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) bless you.
  5. Islam is the righteous and universal religion. How? Because the day a child is born, he is born with certain roots of his identity which are untouched and cannot be denied. A person who denies these roots, denies himself. These principles exactly match the 5 usool e din which we cannot deny: 1. Monothiesm 2. Justice 3. Prophethood 4. Imamate (leadership) 5. Day of Judgement That being said, Sunnis cannot deny Imamate at all. Even if they do, they are actually deny there own prosperity. Something which is fundamental and something without which there is no way forward. As a result you see that, they only deny Imamate in words but not in actions. Because they have taken a wrong path by denying Imamate, at one point every sunni is forced to accept the Imamate of a man-made leader. This bar can be high and low. Low as low as MBS and Al Baghdadi. High as high as Imam Ali (عليه السلام) and Imam Hasan (عليه السلام). But they cannot deny it. Even they can consider many Imams depending on fields. Like Imam Bukhari is there Imam in subject of hadith. Similarly, Imam Hanbal, Imam Shafie etc are Imams of law. On the other hand, Shias have fixed this concept and locked it so that no one can play with the Usool of religion. Which is very important. Isn't it important to secure an usool of religion? If an usool is violated or tweeked then such a step can destroy the religion. That is the reason that in shiism, denial of Imamate of Ali (عليه السلام) is indeed denial of an usool and denial of an usool is denial of religion. Even if a person might not agree with me but his fitrah would agree. He will fool no one but himself by disagreeing on this.
  6. I can make a similar video with these 10 points and the title would be: "10 Reasons to leave Sunnism" @Baseer why listening to slanderers. By asking these questions, who have obvious and visible answers, this person is just trying to spill fitna. Most and ai mean maximum content on Sunnah Discourse is full of Nasibiyat. Don't get into all these Fitna. Shiism has many loopholes and same but rather even greater are there in Ahl Sunnah. But I know that everyone would ask me to answer this. So, let me give brief answers for all: 1. A focus on Allah ((سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى)): It is not Shia theology and Aqeeda which has low focus on Allah. It is the deviant shia people who are like that. Shiism is purely derived from Quran and Shiism is strictly focussed upon Quran (Kitab Allah) and Iterat. Nahj ul Balagha (if you read) is a beautiful wonder that is full of dhikr Allah. Sahifa Sajjadiyah is a blessed book of duas and there is no match to that book in the entire Islamic literature. Purely focussed upon Allah. 2. Access to Hadiths: Although a problem but not that huge. We do have access to huge volumes of hadith with regards to our Aqeeda in Wilayat. When you have 12 hujjats after Rasool (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) and words of all are undisputed and crucial then we will obviously match the compilations and scholarly works with respect to that. So, see where the times of our earliest scholars lie and see where the hadith compilation and research has begun. When it comes to problems in hadith. Well, they are everywhere because corrupt nasibis and ghaalis were all around busy in confusing people. 3. Acceptance of Companions: Again, a difference here lies between the shia literature and the shia public. Shia Aqeeda has great respect for companions. In fact, we value them so much that we cannot allow there names to be taken along with hypocrites. Isn't it an insult to Ibn Abbas (رضي الله عنه) (For eg) if we say his name in one breath and Muawiya's name in another breath (with the same respect). Which logic would allow you to say: "Hazrat Ammar is in Jannah along with 'Hazrat Muawiyah'? Read the Quran and you will find the verses that say: "Is the reward of ones who do good and the ones who are evil equal?" So, doesn't Quran challenge this rhetoric. So, Shia aqeeda has a true love for Sahaba. Separating them from the hypocrites. 4. Access to Ahlulbayt's teachings : A baseless accusation not worth answering. 5. Taqiyyah free Ahlubayt : This is a strawman. Assuming that Taqiyyah is something not a part of our faith. While in reality it is proven from Quran. I had a back and forth word with a salafi on Shiachat itself where he did nothing except laying vile accusations on all shias of lie. This happened to the point that he even said that,"I don't know if you are doing taqiyyah right now or not." So, Taqiyyah is in our aqeeda and even many many Sunnis do it. Especially, in India when they are attacked by Hindutva goons, even the most extremist Sunnis hide if they sell or purchase beaf. They even have given official fatwa from all institutes that cow meat is haram for Indian muslims. This much just for life. Isn't it taqiyyah? 6. Access to the context of Quran: Again, a problem of people and not aqeeda. Shia teachings focus the most on Quran. Even the most wonderful tafsirs written on Quran are there: Tafsir Al Mizan - Allama Tabatabai Majma ul Bayan fi Tafsir al Quran - Sheikh Tabarsi Tafsir Al Burhan, Tafsir al Qummi. These are the popular ones only. You will find tafsir of Quran in volumes from many Shia scholars of every era. No one can write a tafsir without understanding the context. 7. Refer to point 6. And please tell me how many are there on the other side of the fence? Read Tafsir Ibn Kathir and also Tafsir Majma ul Bayan. Read Tafsir Tafhim al Quran by Maududi and read Tafsir Al Mizan. Compare and answer which is aligned with Quran more. 8. Access to Prophet's Biography: There are many books written on Seerat un Nabi. The Message by Ayatullah Jaffer Subhani. Sunan an Nabi by Allama Tabatabai. There are many others. Enough to prove that this is wrong. 9. Trust in Hadith compilers: Shia compilers can be trusted easily. I foind this point a bit vague and blurry. What do you mean here? Sheikh al Kulayni was a thiqa in Shias as well as Sunnis. 10. Realistic Karbala Narrative : It is not that we don't have a realistic narrative. But the azadari is dominated by thosecwithout knowledge and thus it appears as if Karbala isn't real. Wrong and unrealistic practices. Mixing of emotions with history has caused this trouble. This point is genuinely the nearest to be a critic among all. But definitely not a reason to leave an aqeeda. May Allah bless you and everone and may Allah protect the faith of brother @Baseer
  7. This is the right time for Liva Fatimiyun and shia resistance groups to make there positions firm within Afghanistan and become the backbone for the regions dominated by Shias and other non-Sunni groups. Because Shias of Afghan should not live in this dilemma of fear and hope as Taliban takes over. Taliban cannot be fighted right now. And the Afghan govt is equally repressive for Shias (not to mention how corrupt they are). So, the way to go right now is to develop resistance and incline towards self-sufficiency. It will be easy as Taliban would take some time to stabilise there govt and even if they are animals, they won't attack any shias right now. They won't develop any sentiment of hate right now if they want to rule.
  8. Does that mean that under Biden, US is going closer to Turkey and far from KSA?
  9. Salaam, Dua e Mashlool. Namaz e Jaffer At Tayyar. Many many there are so you can refer to anything. But remember that dua should come along with zarf. Zarf means the capacity to accept what Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) will give you and the capacity to face the consequences after which you'll recieve your desire. Which again concludes that you should struggle to achieve your goal in order to show how sincere you are about it. May Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) bless you
  10. Sister @Zxqn, Salaam, There were some good days of worship that came after Ramadan. I am sorry for not checking or reminding. I just hope you took some benefit of these holy days like 25 Dhul qadda, 9 Dhul Hijjah, 18 dhul Hijja and many more. May Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) bless you and protect your faith.
  11. The verse says: 'most of those' not 'all of those'. So, the absolute superiority is discarded. And humans are above 'most of' the creation definitely.
  12. I am not belittling anyone brother. But it is only and only Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) who guides as is clear from a Hadith of Holy Prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم). Part of this system of guidance are prophets, Imamas, Angels and normal human beings.
  13. Nothing in this indicates some kind of inferiority 'by essence'. As I already said above, only obedience of Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) is ibadat. All of what you included if under bounds of obedience, then it is ibadah. Else, it is not. This is exactly what is the purpose of every creation, even our creation. So, how much our actions match the purpose? How do you define the essence of someone?
  14. They lack the ability to disobey. Is it something inferior? I don't think so. All are created to obey. By design. Human beings disobey and there obedience is also many times mixed up with different levels of desires and objectives etc. This is something rationally acceptable.
  15. The sole reason of every creation is obedience (Ibadat) And the obedience of Angels towards Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) by essence is always above the obedience of human being. We humans have a mix and mash of a lot of feelings, expressions etc. So, by essence Angels only possess the capability to obey while Human beings obey as well as disobey and are created like that.
  16. This is an absolutely wrong assumption. No where at any place I said that Ahlulbayt (عليه السلام) are Naqis. I said that the essence of the chosen ones (Panjetan) is not 'Insaan'. According to one hadith when Hazrat Habib asked Imam Hussain (عليه السلام) that, "What you were before the creation of Universe?" He said,"We were the 'form of light' (Paiker e Noor), who revolved around Arsh e Ilaahi." So, brother I don't know from where you brought that.
  17. I was unable to find the tafsir in Al Mizan for 38:75. But a Tafsir of same is present in Enlightening verses. Although, not detailed but still quite clear: https://www.al-islam.org/enlightening-commentary-light-holy-quran-vol-15/section-5-great-tiding#surah-sad-verses-75-78 But again, what's the point? Do I disagree with that? Here is the link above and the commentaries says that the 'exalted ones' in question are the beings superior to Angels. That doesn't contradict Angels proximity to Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى). Nor it contradicts that Angels are 'superior by essence' to human beings. Because the exalted ones are not humans but the pure ones, the chosen ones. They came on earth as Insan e Kamil but there essence is not insaan e Kamil.
  18. My argument doesn't contradict that. Humans by essence are not above Angels. Humans by potential can exceed the level of angels. Now, as for the second statement. You see that it is not an absolute superiority. I am not a hadith expert. Brother @Syed Ali Mehdi Shah Naqvi once mentioned this in a discussion that Ayatullah Khamenei considers Tafsir Imam Hasan Askari as unauthentic. Firstly, it is 'Hazrat Ibrahim (AS)' and secondly, he is Khalilullah and salutations were sent on him and his aal just like we send salutations on the Holy Prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) and his progeny. All this is enough to be a wasilah. So, now you are even providing ranks within Imams. Holy Prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) is the best but there is no proof whatsoever about the rankings among Imams. They all were created from the same light (Noor e Muhammadi). Belief of Raj'ah is mentioned in detail. Don't know who all will come back to life but there is a possibility of Imam Husayn (عليه السلام) (after or during reappearance).
  19. This assertion is again problematic: (Excerpts from the tafsir Al Mizan) The problem with this view is that if it were so, then the obedience of angels would not be any virtue to begin with, because they do not have the option to disobey. They are not equally disposed to obedience and disobedience. In that case the angels would not have any essential merit or value in and of themselves, because according to this view there is no merit except for obedience when disobedience is also possible. In fact, we cannot even refer to the angels as “obedient” except metaphorically, because their very essence necessitates obedience. If that were the case, then there would be no grounds for their proximity to their Lord and their acts would be devoid of any value. This is while God has assigned them a position of nearness and proximity; He has settled them in Sacred Heavens and Stations of Intimacy; and He has appointed them to be keepers of His secrets, carriers of His commands and intermediaries between Him and His creatures. Is all this based on an arbitrary decision by Him without any qualification or worth on the part of the angels? Indeed God has praised them with the loſtiest of praises where He says: Nay! they are honored servants. They do not precede Him in speech and (only) according to His commandment do they act (21:26-27), and: They do not disobey Allah in what He commands them, and do as they are commanded (66:6). He has described them as being honored [in verse 21:26] unconditioned by any condition, and has praised them for their obedience and their refusal to disobey [in verse 66:6]. He has also praised their worship and subservience to their Lord where He says: And for fear of Him they tremble (21:28); But if they are proud, yet those with your Lord glorify Him during the night and the day, and they are not tired (41:38); Surely those who are with your Lord are not too proud to serve Him, and they declare His glory and throw themselves down in humility before Him (7:206). Thus, He orders His Prophet to remember and worship Him as they [the angels] do. The fact is that having the option to either act or refrain is not a criterion of merit and virtue in obedience. This option is only indicative of moral value inasmuch as it reveals the good will and pure intention of the person. The evidence for this is that the obedience of one who has an impure spirit and an evil character is of no worth no matter how much effort he puts into purifying and perfecting his action. For example consider the acts of obedience by a hypocrite or one in whose heart is disease: Their acts are void to God and their good deeds are effaced from their book of deeds. Therefore, what gives virtue, excellence and value to the obedience of an actor is the purity of his soul, the fairness of his substance, and the sincerity in his servitude—which then manifest in refraining to disobey, choosing obey, and bearing its hardship. Given the above criterion, we should add that the essence of the angels is rooted in purity and nobility, and their actions are solely governed by humility in servitude and sincerity of intention. In these aspects they surpass the essence of mankind which is tainted by desires and mixed with anger and lust.
  20. The problem is that it is coming from Tafsir Imam Hasan Al Askari (عليه السلام) which is deemed to be fail whose authenticity is a huge cause of concern raused by many scholars. This is a flawed reasoning. You can make tawassul of Hazrat Ibrahim as well and your Dua will be answered. Hajj is from the Sunnah of Hazrat Ibrahim. Dua e Kumail is Dua e Khidhr. Fastin and Salaat all were prqctuced by the prophets as well. So, Imams (عليه السلام) have taught us the Sunnah of all the prophets, not just Prophet Muhammed (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم). Imams of Ahlulbayt (عليه السلام) are immaculate figures. They are masoomeen, have got the minniyat of Prophet Muhammed (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم). But Imamate in general history was even before the Imams. The havaris of Hazrat Isa (عليه السلام) were Imams afterchim to establish the laws of Islam. The 12 chiefs of Prophet Musa (عليه السلام) were also like that. We can all agree that none of them was above the prophets. We can also agree that many many Prophets themselves were Imams. Now, is still Imamate above Nabuwwat? No. Is Nabuwwat above Imamate? No. They are separate from each other with a separate set of responsibility. When religious message had to be propagated, Allah sent prophets and when that had to be established on earth as rule and practice, he sent Imams. All were close ones to Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى). Much closer than us. So, there is no point comparing stars with stars. I see the Imamate of Imam Mehdi (عجّل الله تعالى فرجه الشريف) as an indication that he is Imam (عجّل الله تعالى فرجه الشريف) of the time and everyone in that hour has to be standing behind him. I would dare to say that even if Prophet Muhammed (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) came along with Jesus (عليه السلام), he would pray behind Imam Mehdi (عجّل الله تعالى فرجه الشريف). Reasons are clear. He is Imam of the age. When Imam Ali (عليه السلام) was Imam, Imam Hasan (عليه السلام) and Imam Hussain (عليه السلام) used to pray behind him. What will you say about Raj'a? Will Imam Husayn (عليه السلام) or Imam Ali (عليه السلام) who will come in the period of Imam's reappearance lead the prayers or will they stand behind Imam Mehdi (عجّل الله تعالى فرجه الشريف). Hazrat Isa (عليه السلام) will surely come back but neither as a Prophet of time, nor as an Imam. Just as a hujjat (proof) of Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) which Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) will send to make the evidence of haqq crystal clear without any doubt. You actually know all the answers. But the point is that this discussion will lead us no where. If we follow religion in practice, we are standing behind all of them and while we love, follow and propagate the character of Ahlulbayt (عليه السلام), we should avoid such comparisons.
  21. Okay. And then what? There essence doesn't fall into the category of human beings. What about 12 chiefs of Hazrat Musa (عليه السلام)? What about 12 hawaris of Hazrat Isa (عليه السلام)? If you need to understand why Hazrat Ibrahim (عليه السلام) was made an Imam, you can read how his life went. There are 2 different phases in the life of Hazrat Ibrahim (عليه السلام). First is the one where he propagates the message of Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) in the reign of Namrood and second is when he leaves Babylon and establishes the laws in practice. Not to mention, many prophets themselves were also Imams.
  22. Though, I don't know the authenticity of this. But this is not the point of argument. The refutation I see is on Hunan being vs angels. You can't 'shift the goal post' like that. Human being is not superior to angels. As of Panjetan, there light is the first of creation and that is a completely separate case. Regarding the main topic, 'Are Imams superior to prophets' My point is that it is baseless. Do they contradict each other? Will you stop performing acts that are from Sunnah of prophets in that case? What will you gain? Further, Imamate holds separate set of responsibilities from Nabuwwat. So, they both have different scenarios to deal with.
  23. Not only Insaan e Kamil but 'best of creation' and 'khair ul bashar'. Which doesn't contradicts my description above. Plus, according to the narrations which say that Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) first created the light of Holy Prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) proves that Holy Prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) is way more than just 'insan e Kamil'. We should accept that we humans are born out of dust and our journey is from Khaaq to Noor. Humility should be our jewel and simplicity should be our way. And complete obedience and submission to Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) is our final aim (something which an angel achieves from the moment he is created)
  24. I call it mutual understanding. It is not a teacher-student relation. Like 'May I go to washroom sir.' lolz. What I mean by exercising of rights and obedience is that the consent should be there, whether spoken or unspoken.
  25. Don't feel bad. But Islamically speaking, he has the right to do so. Though, men about whom you are talking, abuse these rights and therefore, it is again not a right thing. And I interupted because there are women in my relatives who do things without permission or knowledge of there husbands. They go out without permission of there husbands. And literally they have caused a lot of problems. For example,few of them take huge money from other people for there works and are not able to pay back. As a result, the man has to face humiliation in front of others and it becomes extremely difficult to handle such scenarios. These are the reasons, why I hold a balanced view about all this.
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