This is from Sayed Ali Khamenei
Defnition of Ḥarām Music SigningAny sort of music or signing, which keeps human beings away from Allah, the Sublime, and away from moral merits and spirituality and drives them towards lechery, futility, carelessness, and sinful acts, strays human beings from the path of Allah, the Exalted, is considered as lahwī and ḥarām.
To DanceBy obligatory caution, it is ḥarām for a man to dance. If a woman's dancing among women fits the definition of lahw, e.g. it becomes a dancing gathering, one should avoid it by obligatory caution. It is ḥarām to dance if it entails sexual excitement, leads to a vile consequence, is accompanied by a ḥarām act (e.g. ḥarām music / singing) or there exist a non-maḥram man. It makes no difference whether or not it is a wedding party.
Thank you brother. I think the dancing is clear cut.
Again, so under this definition are general instrumentals haram?
or sami yusuf/maher zain type music?
I know he won't come and say individually what is haram or not, but I find the answer vague and difficult to interpret when it comes to deciding whether a song is haram or not. I do not think they cause you to stay from Allah (swt), is that enough? my personal judgement? wouldn't people have different personal judgments?. So I'm not sure.
Brother Ali thanks for the video, I do not speak arabic, I'd really appreciate it if you translate what they said :).
TimeforM yes it's difficult to convince family members, I'll try my best to be as flexible as I can, but if I come to the conclusion that something is completely haram then I cannot go ahead with it. Thanks for your input :), but yh I am specifically interested in interpreting what they would consider haram.