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thegoodman81

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  1. Hi Ashvazdanghe, you are correct of course that it does happen. I'm just pointing out that when it does, this is not a woman who knows or obeys her book. A person who truly follows Jesus takes the whole Bible seriously, not just the parts they prefer.
  2. Hello! Christian perspective here. It's actually very simple, and very very ironic. If a "Christian" woman is willing to marry a Muslim man, then ironically she is not a woman of the book. If she will marry a Muslim then she is not familiar with the books of the Bible, or she doesn't obey them. Obviously I don't mean this as an insult or anything. But 1 Corinthians 6 is very very clear that Christians are not to marry non-Christians. So Muslim men, if a "Christian" girl will marry you, you can't marry her because she isn't really of the book. If she says she won't, then you can... but of course you can't!
  3. Hi, no worries @aaaz1618. In online discussions sometimes a person's tone or intent doesn't come through. but I could tell @Darth Vader was genuine. I appreciate your concern though, because it will help keep Shiachat the kind of place we all want it to be.
  4. Hello! Yes, I do believe there have been many true Prophets.
  5. Hi, @aaaz1618. Would you say this is the standard position among Shia? I am earnestly trying to learn. Thanks!
  6. Hi Darth Vader, how's it going? Actually, no, I don't have trouble believing that God could do something like this. I absolutely believe he empowered a donkey to speak, for example, and that's not much less far-fetched than the Night Journey. That being said, I don't believe Muhammad was true Prophet, and so I don't believe the Night Journey actually occurred either. But again, not because it seems far-fetched or silly.
  7. Hello, I have a quick question for my Shia friends. Do the Shia believe in the Night Journey of Muhammad to Heaven and Jerusalem? I mean, I know there is probably a diversity of opinions, but generally speaking?
  8. Btw, sorry I have not been on here much over the last couple of days. I'm not avoiding the discussion or anything. We are trying to get our house ready to sell and I've got lots of little projects to wrap up.
  9. Interestingly Malaysia is in the process of kicking him out!
  10. Well, it was not an assumption, more of an informed guess, LOL. And yes, I know he is not widely regarded among Shia, though some of Hasan's arguments strike me as similar to his.
  11. @hasanhh, we keep giving each other way too much to respond to. May I suggest we wrap this up some time soon? Or at least try to find a way to talk about one thing at a time?
  12. By the way, Hasan, I didn't assume that. In fact, for a long time I really didn't want to believe it! But, it is the overwhelming message of the Bible. Who am I to disagree with the Injeel, right? You don't have to agree, but I'm sure you can see that I base it upon passages from the text, not on assumptions or hand-me-down religious dogma. You know this is a two-way street, right? May I ask you your opinion about some Qur'an verses?
  13. Matthew 7:22, 8:16, 9:33, 10:1, 10:8, 12:28, 17:19-20; Mark 1:34 . . . ad nauseam To those who are reading this thread, observe what this man is doing. To be clear, we were discussing the part in John 13:26-27 where the Devil enters Judas right after he eats the bread. Hasan claims that this means Jesus must have sent the devil into Judas. I said, you need to show that from the text, meaning (I thought quite obviously) that you need a clear grammatical construction in the verse that implies Jesus caused this to happen. Hasan then responded by providing some verses, which he claim set a precedent that Jesus orders devils into people. Okay Hasan, let's see how honest you are being here. If you are right, we should see a clear precedent for Jesus sending demons into people. That's the only way to get your interpretation out of John 13. And you gave us plenty of verses, so let's see how you did. (Hint, not well) Matthew 7:22 On judgment day many will say to me [Jesus], ‘Lord! Lord! We prophesied in your name and cast out demons in your name and performed many miracles in your name.’ Even Jesus' mere name is sufficient to cast out demons. Matthew 8:16 That evening many demon-possessed people were brought to Jesus. He cast out the evil spirits with a simple command, and he healed all the sick. Matthew 9:32-33 When they left, a demon-possessed man who couldn’t speak was brought to Jesus. So Jesus cast out the demon, and then the man began to speak. The crowds were amazed. “Nothing like this has ever happened in Israel!” they exclaimed. Matthew 10:1 Jesus called his twelve disciples together and gave them authority to cast out evil spirits and to heal every kind of disease and illness. Matthew 10:9 Heal the sick, raise the dead, cure those with leprosy, and cast out demons. Give as freely as you have received! By the way, thank you for bringing this verse up Hasan, because verses 10:1 and 10:8 demonstrate Jesus' divinity. A Prophet can be given the authority to raise the dead, but a Prophet cannot give someone else the authority to raise the dead, cast out demons, heal the sick, etc. Matthew 12:28 But if I [Jesus] am casting out demons by the Spirit of God, then the Kingdom of God has arrived among you. Interestingly, Hasan clearly is working from lists of random attacks against Jesus, because he clearly hasn't read this passage. The surrounding verses would have been much easier to misrepresent and distort. Matthew 17:19-20 Afterward the disciples asked Jesus privately, “Why couldn’t we cast out that demon?” “You don’t have enough faith,” Jesus told them. “I tell you the truth, if you had faith even as small as a mustard seed, you could say to this mountain, ‘Move from here to there,’ and it would move. Nothing would be impossible." This one's kind of funny to list, but it sets the expectation once again that Jesus' and his followers cast out the demons. Mark 1:34 So Jesus healed many people who were sick with various diseases, and he cast out many demons. But because the demons knew who he was, he did not allow them to speak. I'll even add on a bonus one. Luke 4:33-35 In the synagogue there was a man possessed by a demon, an impure spirit. He cried out at the top of his voice, “Go away! What do you want with us, Jesus of Nazareth? Have you come to destroy us? I know who you are—the Holy One of God!” “Be quiet!” Jesus said sternly. “Come out of him!” Then the demon threw the man down before them all and came out without injuring him. Anybody see a precedent in these verses to suggest that Jesus would send a demon into Judas? Hasan, I will keep answering you with truth for as long as you keep asking questions. But I know what you're doing my friend. I can see that you are not a lover of truth, because you're sewing confusion. It's vey dishonoring to God, and you should not do it. I think anyone, Muslim or Christian or otherwise, could look over this thread and see that all you do is launch superfluous accusations. You've probably got a Zakir Naik website open on another tab, and you're pasting in the junk he comes up with. My friend, it's superficial, and it doesn't bear the weight of scrutiny. I'm not even a scholar, and I've managed to answer every one, usually by looking at the chapter as a whole rather than taking your word for what the verse says or means. Notice also that you haven't once overturned my replies. We haven't had a back and forth discussion on any one issue. The progression has always been like this: I make a statement, you counter it, I explain how your counter is invalid, and then you turn immediately to a new issue, rather than defending your position with scripture or logic. Hasan, if you were right about this stuff you wouldn't have to jump to a new topic. I hope you can see that. Your other favorite response is your constant door-slam of "it's Christology!" Please don't read any of this as arrogant, I'm not trying to be disrespectful or flippant. These are serious issues, and I'm very blessed to discuss them on here. Wow, this is long. :/
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