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Don't these fadak narrations contradict?
Student_of_Deen replied to humanbeing101's topic in Shia/Sunni Dialogue
Already discussed, refuted and binned. Scroll back and check the other threads for more info. -
Don't these fadak narrations contradict?
Student_of_Deen replied to humanbeing101's topic in Shia/Sunni Dialogue
I also asked you many times to show one instance from the Qu`ran where a Prophet`s wealth was inherited his children but so far no one was able to provide it. -
Don't these fadak narrations contradict?
Student_of_Deen replied to humanbeing101's topic in Shia/Sunni Dialogue
You may find it surprising but I wasn`t taught the Sunni history regarding the incident of Karbala. In fact I learned about it from a Shi`a stories website back when I was around 15. It was later when I was introduced to the various versions of history. As far as Yazid is concerned then there is no doubt that he was a bad guy but there are conflicting reports regarding his character (and i`m not talking about Nasibis). One side says Yazid was a wicked person who indulged in all sorts of vices like drinking alcohol & immoral behaviour, not praying, playing with monkeys & bears and Allah alone knows how many others things he is accused of. On the other hand there is a group which says Yazid was not a bad charactered person. He was a practising youth and who took part in the naval invasion of Constantinople and also his father made him lead the pilgrims from Syria to Makkah. There are a lot of conflicting reports regarding Yazid. -
I`m wrong in your opinion but based on what did you concluded that I must be ignorant of these verses and traditions ?
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Are Prophet Wives included in Ahl albayat (33:33)?
Student_of_Deen replied to Muslim2010's topic in Shia/Sunni Dialogue
Any verse in the Qu`ran excluding the wives of the Prophets from their Ahl ? LOL I don`t mind if believing that makes you happy mate. They were not quoted Sahih. The version of this hadith you used from Musnad Ahmad is CLASSED WEAK BY SCHOLARS OF AHLUS SUNNAH. Then I`m all ready for it as well if that`s what you want.- 227 replies
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Are Prophet Wives included in Ahl albayat (33:33)?
Student_of_Deen replied to Muslim2010's topic in Shia/Sunni Dialogue
FYI The wives of the Prophet (Peace be upon him) were human beings, not demi goddesses and angels. The were not Infallible beings because infallibility & absolute perfection is an attribute of Allah subhana watala.- 227 replies
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Are Prophet Wives included in Ahl albayat (33:33)?
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It didn`t took place in the house of Hazrat Ali (ra), Instead it took place in the house of Umm ul Momineen Umm Salamah (May Allah be pleased with her).- 227 replies
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Why do Salafis use Ijtihad when its a part of...
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Are Prophet Wives included in Ahl albayat (33:33)?
Student_of_Deen replied to Muslim2010's topic in Shia/Sunni Dialogue
Why are you limiting our hadith traditions to the Sahih Sitta ? I can say the same about most of Shi`a traditions. They were all recorded in order to their suit their political whims and personal gains. Care to show how this hadith is contradicting with other Sahih hadiths ? Analysis made by whom ? By you ?- 227 replies
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Based on what did you concluded that I`m ignorant of these verses and traditions ?
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Do Hanafis/Hanbalis/Shafis pray like pagans?
Student_of_Deen replied to humanbeing101's topic in Shia/Sunni Dialogue
It`s you who is providing incomplete information and forming conclusions based on it. I simply made a point that this is a minority among Jews who still bows down in prayer. What do you mean I do not even recognize the difference between the prayer of Shi`a and Sunnis ? They are the followers of Imam Malik (Rahimahullah) and they pray like this from the start. Abu al-Walid al-Baji, A prominent Maliki scholar from Al Andalus explained: “It may be that Maalik said that placing one hand on top of the other is makrooh because he was afraid that the common people would believe that this was one of the essential pillars of the prayer and that prayer would be invalid if one did not do this.” Imam Maalik (rahimahullah) probably considered it makrooh for the above reason. Unlike the OP, He did not considered it an act emulating the pagans. -
The purified ones MUST BE free from Satan`s whisperings, like the Prophets and Messengers were ? Then the Purified ones (according to you) were either Prophets or they were angels.
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Do me a favour and don`t quote/notify me in the future. I`m not interested in entering endless discussions with zero outcome.
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Do Hanafis/Hanbalis/Shafis pray like pagans?
Student_of_Deen replied to humanbeing101's topic in Shia/Sunni Dialogue
No i`m not in shock and denial at all. Alhamdulilah i`m not illogical enough to buy the conclusion you drew from that picture. Because if we went by your logic then even standing and prostrating and prayer will become an act of emulating pagans. https://books.google.co.in/books?id=FpqZCgAAQBAJ&pg=PA86&lpg=PA86&dq=praying+statue+of+Amenemhat+III&source=bl&ots=lisuh8Jxkp&sig=hnoeKlJxRiGxXIMnhGAGQdrecwo&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjZgPScmpfUAhXCu48KHQsUDGI4ChDoAQg4MAQ#v=onepage&q&f=false Another example from Ancient Egypt which proves that Shi`as also pray like pagans by kneeling in worship. (of course only if we went by your logic). Large Kneeling Statue of Hatshepsut (ca. 1479–1458 B.C.) kneeling in devotion to God(s). http://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/544448 However if you are still not satisfied then In`sha Allah can present more example of Ancient people praying in similar positions & displaying similar gestures like Shi`as do in prayer. -
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Do Hanafis/Hanbalis/Shafis pray like pagans?
Student_of_Deen replied to humanbeing101's topic in Shia/Sunni Dialogue
What assumptions ? I really don`t get what you`re talking about.