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Ya Ali

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  1. Salam Alaykom, Orion, i know what he did, and yes i know he admitted to certain things even though it is easy to make people confess to things.....Like i said, does that mean if i protest against his treatment of his burial rites, does that make me a rebel, or revolting against the islamic government. What i am saying in terms of Ayatullah Shiariatmadari, is exactly what Ayatullah Golyapaygani said, that he was ashamed of his treatment. Ayatullah Golaypaygani knew the disagreement between him and Ayatullah Khomeini, but he said he will leave it in the hands of Allah swt. He still made sure that he (Ayatollah Shariatmadari) should have rights. "the true arbitration of [the quarrel] between Your Excellency and Ayatollah Shariatmadari ... is in the hands of Almighty God. I deem it necessary to express my intense regret over the events of the burial, which has occurred without the required ceremonies and paying of respects and the covert burial [of his body] in an unsuitable place. I expect now that you will personally provide recompense ... for the insults which have been directed at him and his position as marja-ye taqlid". I too like to EXPRESS MY INTENSE REGRET!!!!! So i guess you are throwing Grand Ayatullah Golaypaygani in this group as well??!! I do not care who condemned who, does that mean that if Ayatullah Khoemeini condemned someone, therefore Allah swt has condemned them??. I stand up for the rights of muslims, that is all! Like Ayatollah Golaypaygani did. He did not care what the marjei did, he knew what he did, he left the disagreement between him and Ayatullah Khoemeni in the hands of God. Does that mean i and also others like Ayatullah Golaypaygani am against Ayatullah Khoemeni and therefore becuase of that against God...astagfriallah??!! But alhamdulilah, at least i will be in a [b:post_uid0]just[/b:post_uid0] camp! You say Syed Shirazi was not under house arrest, like people say that the funeral incident is a "fake" and that is your opinion, many others believe in the contary. The point isnt about Syed Shriazi being under house arrest, the point is there is a problem in Iran concerning the mistreatment of scholars!!!!!! What about all the other scholars... You can debate all you want, but there are instances of mistreatment. This includes house arrest, tortue and continous harrassment. Hmm, well what is funny is that certain scholars that are put under house arrest are not even given TRIAL!!!!! House arrest is not a punishment under Islamic Law, especially not for having differing political view. Alhamdulilah i havent been put under house arrest......well not yet. I did not put Ayatullah Shariatmadari in my case....Ayatullah Golaypaygani did! Like Ayatullah Golaypaygani stood up for the rights of Ayatullah Shariatmadari, i will also stand up for other oppressed Ulama and their rights. In Islam, all people have rights. This includes normal people, muslims, scholars and prisoners. SCHOLARS that were part of the revolution, that helped it and formed it, that CREATED it are also raising their hands in forms of protest against certain incidents. PLS GET THIS THROUGH YOUR MINDS: if i protest, it does not mean i am against the country, it simply means i am trying to establish JUSTICE, FORBID EVIL, ENJOIN THE GOOD (Furoo-e-deen). No offence to all........i will not post anymore in this topic , since it looks like it is disuniting us and the fact that i am busy with studies. Trust me i am not 'chickening out', i can write all day and night, but i have better things to do than engage in debates on politics....i am also scared that one of you is going to come and put me under house arrest, because i am a "holy schmuck" (as saq_Imam-Reza put i) and eventually kill me... :P Also, i am sick of repeating myself....and receiving replies that i am against the islamic government, therefore i should be killed, how dare you say anything against Iran etc..etc..etc..Its a bit like how the sunnis argue. They believe that their caliphs were not sinless (i am not implying certain people are like caliphs, just giving a practical e.g. in terms of how ppl argue), but when someone dares to say anything against their caliphs that they committing a sin/oppression, they jump in the air screaming you are against God!!.....I will leave Allah to judge. I am not against Iran.....becuase then you are saying that Syed Golaypaygani is against Iran and many other marjei, even those today that are not under house arrest.........I, like many others, am against "wrong". If someone is oppressed, i will try and raise that persons right, by speaking against that oppression. Please people, do not let your pride come in the way. The truth hurts, Iran is not sinless. Please people, listen to what YA ZAHRA said. He/she put it so easily, so nicely, unlike me.....even if he/she does not agree with me, YA ZAHRA raises a good point: And also like AbdulHujjah said......Imam Ali (as) said "O' Kumayl, Say the truth in all circumstances".....exactly like Ayatollah Golaypaygani did! I WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO..............REMEMBERING a quote from the late Sayyid Khomeini (thanx AbdulHujjah).. and he says Wassalam p.s. pls forgive me for any offence.....i am sorry. Inshallah, we are all blessed by Allah swt and are guided. Edited By Ya Ali on 1033479079
  2. House arrest......its sad brother. Not only would you kill this scholar, but you would aslo put them under house arrest. Its funny....really. Can you please give me the Islamic ruling on house arrest, especially when someone gives his/her opinion on Islamic Politics or religion for that matter. That means, if i dont follow your view on Islamic Politics and what is going on with the oppressed scholars, that means i should be put under house arrest??? Whoever helps out the Islamic Ummah, i love and respect. This includes Iran, Hizbullah, my scholar Syed Seestani and all the scholars. The scholar in question (in your story) has his views, and i may not agree with him, but that does not give me the right to put him under house arrest! However, its unfortunate that you intend to mean anyone who has an opinion against your political view should be under house arrest because for I guess only you do. Im thinking, did Imam Ali as put people under house arrest, or did used to treat pows, and slaves as better as he would treat himself. And they are pows! These people are scholars!! They have an opinion in all areas of Islaimc politics. I guess next, is that anything that does not relate to Syed Khamaneis fiqh, those scholars must be put under house arrest.................................hmm hang on. Its unfortunate mistreatment to certain scholars has happened with regards of their differing opinion of Tatbeer in Ashura. Firstly, people are NOT rebelling against Iran. I definately am not. I am merely raising questions and want Iran to improve. Does that mean, under Islamic Law, that because i have a different view on Islamic politics that i must be put to death? Does that mean if i hear of news that scholars are being mistreated, and i protest against this, i must be killed and put under house arrest? Hmmm......well, why dont you come kill me now. I am not a rebel. When someone does good for the Islamic Ummah, i applaud them. When someone does something bad, i protest against them. The Holy Prophet said: "The one who sees a wrong action done should prohibit it by his deed, if he is capable, of course; and if he cannot do that, he should prohibit it by his tongue, but if he is not able to do even that, he may forbid it by his heart." Wasa'il-ush-Shi'ah. Am i not allowed to prohibit this wrong action, as i believe it is occuring and many others do as well, with my deeds, tongue. Well i cant can i! Because you will kill me or put me under house arrest, since this is your Islamic Law. Therefore, i will surely prohibit it by my heart. Surely, Allah knows what is in peoples hearts. Many scholars have been raising their voices to certain incidents. Both the scholars who are under house arrest (for their differing views) and scholars “outside house arrest”. Arnt these “Holy schmucks” as you put them allowed to do so? For e.g. Grand Ayatollah Kazem Shariatmadari himself was placed under house arrest. Grand Ayatollah Shariatmadari died in June 1986. His supporters were prevented from holding a public funeral and he was buried secretly in the middle of the night in a remote place. Now, lets put aside what he did or said which lead to his mistreatment. But isnt it a rite for every muslim to have a proper burial rite....let alone a marjei?? Its incidents like these that lead people to speak out. And surely people did of this incident. I would of. These events led Grand Ayatollah Mohammad Reza Golpaygani to write the following to Grand Ayatollah Khomeini: "the true arbitration of [the quarrel] between Your Excellency and Ayatollah Shariatmadari ... is in the hands of Almighty God. I deem it necessary to express my intense regret over the events of the burial, which has occurred without the required ceremonies and paying of respects and the covert burial [of his body] in an unsuitable place. I expect now that you will personally provide recompense ... for the insults which have been directed at him and his position as marja-ye taqlid". Hang on..Grand Ayatollah Mohammed Golpaygani, who was the supreme religious authority of the Shi'a world after the death of Grand Ayatollah Khoei, who supported the Islamic Revolution (as i do), but when something happened he rose up, spoke out against it. Does that make him a HOLY SCKMUCK??? Does that mean he should of been put under house arrest or even killed, as you would like to do?? I am not revolting. I am not rebelling. I am merely speaking out when something wrong happens. This is what many scholars do, and have done, and have unfortunately paid the price for such action, simply because they were following the words of the Prophet (saws) when he says "The one who sees a wrong action done should prohibit it by his deed, if he is capable, of course; and if he cannot do that, he should prohibit it by his tongue, but if he is not able to do even that, he may forbid it by his heart." This was an incident that occured in 1986. I believe many incidents have taken place since then against scholars, who have done nothing whatsoever, but merely express their own opinion. Im thinking, would Ayatollah Mohammed Golpaygani have said anything if he saw what happened to Syed Shirazis body at his funeral. Lets take that away since people think its “fake”. What would Ayatollah Mohammed Golpaygani have said about all the house arrests, the mistreatment and the tortue that is going on to many scholars. But then again, he would be a holy Schmuck. Yes Imam Mahdi (may Allah hastenhis reapperance....since his government will surely be just) will cut off ulema heads. But does this give you and other ulema the right to start it now. Obviously you would love to start now, because you have grasped all knowledge, and no one is allowed to have a different view to yours. How do you know that it wont be the scholars closest to you and me??! Well, you obviously dont. So, lets leave the cutting off of heads of our scholars to Imam Mahdi (may Allah hastenhis reapperance), and lets try to focus on the fact that it might be our heads, and thus try to improve ourselves. Shabbirh - TRUE INDEED. We will never tolerate humiliation. We must stand up against oppression where ever it may be happening. Can a bit of oppression happen in Iran, are they sinless????? No they are not. Imam Mehdi (may Allah hasten his reappearance) government is. We may not speak against Imam Mahdis government, since his is just. Lets see if oppression/corruption can happen in Iran or in any Islamic government The Holy Prophet said: "There are two groups of my Ummah that when they are pious, my Ummah will be upright and when they are immoral my Ummah will be corrupt." The Messenger of Allah was asked who they were, and he answered: "The religious scholars and rulers” Bihar-ul-Anwar, vol. 2, p. 49 The Holy Prophet said: "There will come a time for my Ummah when their rulers will be cruel, their scholars will be greedy and have little piety, their worshippers (will act) hypocritically, their merchants will commit usury and conceal the defects of their buyings and sellings and their women will be busy with the ornaments of the world. Hence, at this time, the most vicious of them will dominate over them, and their good doers will invocate but they will not be answered” Bihar-uI-Anwar It sure can. May Allah forgive me if i have offended anyone, that was not my intention. I am barely stating my opinion, and inshallah, we are not disunited by such opinions, since it is USA/Israel and the enemies of Islam main goal to disunite us. Wassalam
  3. I did not compare Ayatollah Khamanei with the caliphs. I compared the tragedies that happened to AhlulBayt (obviously much much bigger and thus hard to compare) with the tragedies of some scholars. Im not sure if you have seen torture marks on people, but it isnt a pleasant sight, trust me. Firstly, me pondering and speaking out against the treatment of scholars in Iran, is not “revolting”. Imam Ali a.s. always wanted to hear the poeples complaints against his government, so he can take action. He always answered peoples questions. He used to finish his sermon and address the people’s problems personally. And it isnt the same. You cannot compare ‘Imam’ Khamanei with Hazrat Ammeral Momenin a.s.. Imam Ali a.s. answered peoples questions. How dare you say that me questioning the treatment of scholars in Iran is equal to the revolting agaisnt Imam Ali a.s. Iran unfortunately is not infallible. Iran can committ mistakes. The shame must be on you. You are now equating millions of muslims (including the scholars) of revolting against Imam Ali a.s. just because they are worried about the treatment of scholars. Thus it is you who are equating millions of muslims to the corrupt nasibi khalifs. I did ponder about it. Alhamdulilah, before i was misguided. I was basically following a tunnel vision, not believing a word people say that was happening to scholars. I asked many people, scholars and asked Allah swt for help. Alhamdulilah, with Allah swt help i have not let my pride, arrogance in the way for surely “there is an extremely uncomfortable place in hell for those who are arrogant” Imam Jafar Sadiq as. I have an opinion brother, which i feel is right. You have a differing view. I guess only Allah swt knows. Hmm....brother i feel sorry for you. Calling scholars,mujtihads,marjei and millions of muslims around the world (therefore including me) a “HOLY SCMUCK”. I’ll let you call me holy schmuck, its ok. However i must remind you that “nothing is more ornamental than courtesy” Imam Ali a.s. But lets get back onto those Holy Schmucks, the scholars including marjei. I have never and will never call Syed Khamanei or anyone else for that matter a holy schmuck. However, if someone is in power, and something wrong happened under his power, am i not allowed to ask him whats going on.........ohhhh thats right....that is rebelling, revolting against the Islamic government. Brother, may these scholars or should i say “holy schmucks forgive you on the day of judgement. Must you be reminded of the status of scholars?
  4. bismillah (salam) If umar and abu bakr gave allegiance to Imam Ali (as) at Ghadeer Khuum, why cant their followers??
  5. bismillah (salam) First and foremost brother sag_IMAM-REZA, i am deeeply sorry if i offended you in any way. That was not my intention. May you and Allah forgive me. "O you men! We have created you of a male and a female, and then We made you (into different) races and tribes so that you may know each other. Surely the most honourable of you with Allah is the one who is most pious among you; surely Allah Is All-Knowing & Aware." (The Qur'an 49:13) Yes, i am not Iranian. I have Lebanese background. Inshallah you have nothing against that since we are all muslims and that we all have a right to express our opinion. I try to obtain as much knowledge as i can on this subject and i have being extensive research because it obviously worries me that our scholars are being harrassed, tortued and oppressed,just like AhlulBayt(a.s.) were. You may have more knowledge then me in all areas including this, may Allah reward you for this since "The virtue of knowledge is more beloved with Allah than the virtue of worship." The Holy Prophet pbuh....Bihar-ul-Anwar, vol. 1, p. 167 I too have seeked knowledge in this particular subject, and i have come to my own opinion.While i repsect your opinion, i hope you can respect mine. Surely, i will be answering to my Lord, Allah the All-Mighty, the [b:post_uid0]Knower[/b:post_uid0] of all things. However, i do not believe i am "foolish" when it comes to my views. I have heard reported incidents from all people including the scholars themselves. Like i said, i have researched the subject, and i have not let my pride come in my way. When it comes to me forming an opinion, i seek Allahs help, not to let my pride and arrogance come in my way. Of coarse a person wrote the article, and yes i know i can write an article to shianews.com. May Allah reward shianews.com for a wonderful job. The point i was trying to make was that shias, non-shias, westerners, time magazine, CNN, shia human right groups, amnesty international and the SCHOLARS themselves have reported this incident. Not only the funeral incident but many other incidents. If you think the funeral incident was a "fake", that is your opinion brother, i will respect that. To me however, i have a different opinion. God knows what really happened. But i am sure, that my view (and many others) cannot be blamed for 'foolishness' especially in light of what i have heard and seen. Also, it isnt just the funeral incident. If you take that away becuase you think it is 'fake', then there are many other incidents involving mistreatment to many other scholars who themselves have spoken out about it. I have already listed a few names in my previous posts. I tend to believe these scholars when i hear their stories. You may not, andd you are entitled to your own opinion . I respect yours, i hope you can repsect mine. The only reason i speak of these things is because someone raised it, and i believe that some scholars are being oppressed for their views. Many people therefore try to express their opinion that something is going on in Iran against certain scholars, and that this is unjust. Thus as Imam Ali says "May Allah have mercy upon the person who services a right and removes a wrong, or refutes an injustice and establishes justice." Ghurar-ul-Hikam, p. 181 Thats all i ad many others are trying to do brother. Injustice is occuring all around the world, and we shia try to refute this. For e.g. in Palestine, Checheyna, Bosnia, Saudi Arabia, USA. Many people try to follow the Holy Prophets pbuh words and apply them not only to the above countries but where ever it may occur......even Iran. "The one who sees a wrong action done should prohibit it by his deed, if he is capable, of course; and if he cannot do that, he should prohibit it by his tongue, but if he is not able to do even that, he may forbid it by his heart." I, and many others, believe there is injustice and a wrong being done with all the reports against certain scholars, and i try to prohibit this with my heart and tongue. Hmmm.....im not sure if you are talking about the scholars in question. In that you meant, if the things you heard of what certain scholars did, you would of killed them for it. Well, unfortunately, some scholars did get KILLED for it (whatever they did). While others have been tortued, which i see it worse than killing. While others are put under house arrest, like Saddam has done to my marjei Syed Seestani (may Allah prolong his life) in Iraq. Lets remember that many of the scholars are marjei who have followers around the world. So im not sure how 'forgiving' that really is. Im not sure if you really know the depth of the word 'forgiving'. I thank Allah that he is forgiving, and that he will establish justice. Back on to your opinion that you would 'KILL' the scholars ( including marjei) if what they did was true (perhaps for just having a different view), im not sure if you know the Islamic Sharia, but i would believe that would be considered murder, and you would be accountable for killing all humanity. Im not sure if you have realised what you just said, that you would KILL certain scholars. I find that seriously appauling. I will finish off my post with a famous supplication, which inshallah is granted soon. اللهم انا نرغب اليك في دولة كريمة تعربها الاسلام وااهله وتذل بها النفاق واهله وتجعلنا فيها من الدعاة الى طاعتك والقادة الى سبيلك وترزقنا بها كرامة الدنيا والاخرة O' Allah! We eagerly desire that You assign us to the just, fair Islamic government, (the which is really the rightful government of Imam Mahdi, may Allah hasten his reappearance). Through his auspicious government, thou reactivate and dearly love Islam and its followers while thou humiliate hypocrisy and the hypocrite. And, in that period, include us among those who invite people unto Thy obedience and lead them to Thy path of guidance; and, endow us the honour and grandeur of both this world and the next. Bihar-ul-Anwar, vol. 91, p. 6 Once again sag_IMAM-REZA, i am sorry if i offended you, please forgive me, that was not my intention. May Allah bless you and all of us. Wassalam \ Edited By Ya Ali on 1033283527
  6. bismillah (salam) God knows best what is happening in Iran with certain scholars. Not only has western human rights group such as Amnesty International reported about the treatment of certain scholars (they have an actual report titled "Human Rights Violations against Shi'a Religious Leaders and their Followers), but also SHIA HUMAN RIGHTS groups. There are many scholars who have also written about their mistreatment. Only Allah knows best what really happens. Obviously, there are many people out there whose aim is to bring down the Islamic Ummah by disuniting us, and thus "fake" reports have arisen. However, for us to say nothing is going on and everything is fine....when there is evidence and western groups and muslim news agency (shianews.com), human right groups both shia and non-muslim, and the scholars themselves are telling stories of not only mistreatments, but persecution.....is to be abit :nono: The Holy Prophet said: "The one who sees a wrong action done should prohibit it by his deed, if he is capable, of course; and if he cannot do that, he should prohibit it by his tongue, but if he is not able to do even that, he may forbid it by his heart." Wasa'il-ush-Shi'ah, vol. 16, p. 135 Everyone has an opinion of what goes on, based on the evidence they have seen. If people feel there is mistreatment against scholars, they have a right to forbid the evil by their tongues or heart. We must remember that incidents that have been told to occur are against the greatest people among our communit: our scholars. Imam Hassan 'Askari, the eleventh Imam, [a] said: "The scholars of our followers (Shi'ah) are the guards of the bounds of Islam. Then, anyone of our followers who undertakes this (duty) is superior to the one who fights in the battle against the Romans, (because this one defends the theological bounds of our followers)." AI-Ihtijaj, vol. 2, p. 155 Regarding Syed Shirazi (ra) , it was not only regarding the problems at his funeral, but many other problems during his life. He lived oppressed and died oppressed. It is not only him but many other scholars. There are many...but here are a few names that have had reported some form of violations was carried out against them (God knows best what really happened): Grand Ayatollah Sayed Mohammad Sadeq Rouhani Ayatollah Sayed Hassan Tabataba'i-Qomi Grand Ayatollah Hossein Ali Montazeri Ayatollah Mahdavi-Damaghani Grand Ayatollah Ya'sub al-Din Rastgari Grand Ayatollah Shirazi Hojjatoleslam val moslemin Sayed Morteza Shirazi, the second son of Grand Ayatollah Shirazi, Hojjatoleslam Sayed Mehdi Shirazi, the fourth son of Grand Ayatollah Shirazi Hojjatoleslam Sheikh Fazel Fazeli Hojjatoleslam Muhammad Saleh Hedayati Hojjatoleslam Sheikh Makki Akhound Hojjatoleslam Sheikh Ja'far Ghani Sayed Javad Rouhani Grand Ayatollah Mohammad Rouhani, the elder brother of Grand Ayatollah Mohammad Sadeq Rouhani. Sheikh Mohammad Reza Mamaghani, Sheikh Hassan Aram, Sheikh Safa Khatib, Sayed Abolghasem Mojtahed-zadeh and Ayatollah Misbah ....and many others I am not trying to disunite us here, but i am barely stating scholars names that have reported mistreatment. Allah knows best what really happened. With numerous reports by shias, non-muslims, human right groups, and scholars themselves, we cannot blame people (especially us shia) having a thought of what goes on against certain scholars, keeping in mind why shias always try to stand up for Justice no matter where it may be (tragedies of AhlulBayt). The Holy Prophet said: "There are two groups of my Ummah that when they are pious, my Ummah will be upright and when they are immoral my Ummah will be corrupt." The Messenger of Allah was asked who they were, and he answered: "The religious scholars and rulers." Bihar-ul-Anwar, vol. 2, p. 49 May Allah forgive me if i offended anyone (may those people forgive me too), it was not my intention. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and inshallah i will respect all others.... and Allah knows best. Wassalam
  7. Bismillah Salam Alaykom, Syed Mahdi Al-Moderassi is a scholar who has committed his life to spread the word of Islam. Since day 1 in Australia, he has dedicated his time preaching the teachings of Prophet Muhammed and AhlulBayt, peace be upon them all. His lectures are a reminder of how remarkable his whole family is, especially his father, the well-known Syed Hadi Al-Moderassi, who is a wakeel (representative) of many marjei, including Ayatullah Khomeini. All this talk about politics (Syed Shirazi, Syed Fadullah etc) is all irrelavant. Scholars are always going to have their disagreements (even though Syed Shirazi did not condemn Syed Fadullah as others did....for e.g. Syed Khadim Haeri). Why dont we just concentrate on the fact that Allah swt has blessed us with such scholars, such as Syed Mahdi Al-Moderrassi (may Allah prolong his life). We are lucky to have such scholars spreading the word of Islam around the world, even here 'downunder', and guiding people onto the right path, as he has done with me alhamdulilah :) May Allah bless the Moderrassi family and [b:post_uid0][i:post_uid0]all [/b:post_uid0][/i:post_uid0] our scholars, and bless us all inshallah. Wassalam
  8. Salam Alaykom, Inshallah, all those who follow abu bakr and umar and all the others, may they be raised up with them in the day of judgement..... and we all know where they(enemies of AhlulBayt) are going.... :uhh: The Holy Prophet SA said: "The likeness of my Ahlul-Bayt (progeny) amongst my Ummah (followers) is similar to Noah's Ark. Those who embarked on it were rescued and those who rejected it perished...." La3an tullah on all those who stole the right of AhlulBayt, to those who hurt them, to those who had emnity towards them, to those who could not stand truth and justice, to those who were against the Prophet (saws) from day 1, to those who only cared about money and power.............oh yeh and mainly to that person who hurt Fatima, who killed Mohsen, to that person who was a [Edited Out] of a [Edited Out] (truth....look at his family line), to that person who had homosexual tendencies... , and thank God for Abu LouLou, for he made the world a better place. All these people have perished, since they rejected AhlulBayt and their Ark. So, once again, we hope those who love them so much are raised up with them in the afterlife. :uhh: Wassalam
  9. Salaam Alaikom, Ali, you're statement is highly incorrect and inappropriate, (as) is only reserved for the Prophets and Imams. You're opinion is based on qiyas (conjecture/guesswork) and this is forbidden in islam. The living are different to the dead, the Imams must always be given a higher status than the average joe. Don't think about it ask those who know.
  10. Salam Alaykom, The fourth daughters name is Mary.
  11. Salam Alaykom, He also made histroy by destroying certain Islamic practices in Turkey, which has lead to the turkey of today. For example, not letting ladies wearing hijab in parliament. For more on Turkeys oppression on the hijab, look at islamic human rights commission link. Islamic Human Rights Commission Im not sure why muslims can base pride on Atta Turk, when he did nothing but westernise the country and wipe away the Islamic practices. Well, Turkey today are the biggest allies for all these 'evil' countries, not to mention ISRAEL! Wassalam
  12. Salam Alaykom, Breast-beating, which is generally done by the Shias for the martyrs of the Ahlul-Bayt is not part of Shia faith. It is an active expression of sorrow for the holy ones and identification with their suffering in serving Allah. History records similar conduct by Owais Qarani, who hurt himself, breaking his own teeth in grief for the suffering of the Holy Prophet saws in Uhud. This story is known by all the Muslim world. So, the expression of feelings on the part of Shias for the martyrdom of AhlulBayt, especially the king of Martyrs, leader of youth in Paradise, IMAM HUSAYN (A.S.) represents a natural attachment to the Holy Ones. Im just thinking "slaveof Allah" :uhh: when ABU LOU LOU killed NUMBER 2, does anyone represent grief in your neck of the woods???? Well you obviously dont! maybe becuase he was nothing and had nothing to do with religion, and that Islam was not harmed in any way whatsoever when number 2 lost his life. So, you are not a "slave of Allah", since you are nothing but a slave of "lucifer", when you say stupid stuff like that. Wassalam Edited By Ya Ali on 1030854821
  13. Salam Alaykom, Sorry Sayed Maher, how can you say that in the last 40 years of his life Ayatullah Syed Khomeni (ra) [b:post_uid0] did not committ [i:post_uid0][u:post_uid0]1 [/i:post_uid0][/u:post_uid0] sin[/b:post_uid0]. We cannot say this, only Allah knows. Why cant he make mistakes after that age (49 yrs)?? How can we imply that he didnt make a mistake? As you said, he is not masoom. You are basically saying that he was sinless for the last 40 years of his life, i dont think we should make these kind of statements about anyone, since we do not know. May Allah bless all our scholars........al-fatiha for our scholars Wassalam Edited By Ya Ali on 1030719619
  14. Salam Alaykom, For some reason, sunnis believe that Jesus will come alone, even though this is in contradiction with their books and hadiths. Here is some sunni sources about Imam Mohammed Mahdi and his return.. The Prophet (PBUH&HF) said: "Even if the entire duration of the world's existence has already been exhausted and only one day is left (before the day of judgment), Allah will expand that day to such a length of time, as to accommodate the kingdom of a person from my Ahlul-Bayt who will be called by my name. He will fill out the earth with peace and justice as it will have been full of injustice and tyranny (by then)." Sunni References: Sahih al-Tirmidhi, v2, p86, v9, pp 74-75 Sunan Abu Dawud, v2, p7 Musnad Ahmad Ibn Hanbal, v1, pp 84,376; V3, p63 al-Mustadrak ala al-Sahihayn, by al-Hakim, v4, p557 Jami' al-Saghir, by al-Suyuti, pp 2,160 al-Urful Wardi, by al-Suyuti, p2 al-Majma', by al-Tabarani, p217 Tahdhib al-Tahdhib, by Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani, v9, p144 Fat'h al-Bari fi Sharh Sahih al-Bukhari, by Ibn Hajar Asqalani, v7, p305 al-Sawa'iq al-Muhriqah, by Ibn Hajar al-Haythami, Ch. 11, section 1, p249 al-Tathkirah, by al-Qurtubi, p617 al-Hawi, by al-Suyuti, v2, pp 165-166 Sharh al-Mawahib al-Ladunniyyah, by al-Zurqani, v5, p348 Fat'h al-Mugheeth, by al-Sakhawi, v3, p41 Kanz al-Ummal, v7 P186 Iqd al-Durar Fi Akhbar al-Mahdi al-Muntadhar, v12, Ch. 1, al-Bayan fi Akhbar Sahib al-Zaman, By Ganji al-Shafi'i, Ch. 12 al-Fusool al-Muhimmah, by Ibn Sabbagh al-Maliki, Ch. 12 Arjahul Matalib, by Ubaidallah Hindi al-Hanafi, p380 Muqaddimah, by Ibn Khaldoon, p266 and also in the works of Ibn Habban, Abu Nua'ym, Ibn Asakir, etc. Some people try and say Mahdi Jesus, however this cannot be....... Prophet (PBUH&HF) said: "al-Mahdi is one of us, the members of the household (Ahlul-Bayt)." Sunni reference: Sunan Ibn Majah, v2, Tradition #4085 It is evident from the above traditions that Imam al-Mahdi (as) is from the Ahlul-Bayt of Prophet Muhammad, so he can not be Jesus (the Messiah; al-Maseeh). Thus, al-Mahdi and Messiah are two different personalities but they come at the same time, al-Mahdi as Imam and Jesus as his follower. It is narrated in Sahih Muslim that: Jabir Ibn Abdillah al-Ansari (ra) said: I heard the Messenger of Allah saying: "A group of my Ummah will fight for the truth until near the day of judgment when Jesus, the son of Marry, will descend, and the leader of them will ask him to lead the prayer, but Jesus declines, saying: "No, Verily, among you Allah has made leaders for others and He has bestowed his bounty upon them." Sunni reference: Sahih Muslim, Arabic, part 2, p193 Musnad Ahmad Ibn Hanbal, v3, pp 45,384 al-Sawa'iq al-Muhriqah, by Ibn Hajar al-Haythami, Ch. 11, section 1, p251 Nuzool Isa Ibn Maryam Akhir al-Zaman, by Jalaluddin al-Suyuti, p57 Musnad, by Abu Ya'ala which provides another version of the tradition with more clear words on the authority of Jabir that the Messenger of Allah said: "A group among my Ummah will continue to fight for the truth until Jesus, the son of Marry, will descend, and the Imam of them will ask him to lead the prayer, but Jesus replies: "You have more right to it, and verily Allah has honored some of you over others in this Ummah." Sahih Ibn Habban, whose tradition reads: "their leader al-Mahdi" and the rest of tradition is the same. Also al-Hafidh Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani mentioned that: "The Mahdi is of this Ummah, and that Jesus (PBUH&HF) will come down and pray behind him." Sunni reference: Fat'h al-Bari, by Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani, v5, p362 This is also mentioned by another Sunni scholar, Ibn Hajar al-Haythami, who wrote: "The Ahlul-Bayt are like the stars through whom we are guided in the right direction, and if the starts are taken away (or hidden) we would come face to face with the signs of the Almighty as promised (i.e., the Day of Resurrection). This will happen when the Mahdi will come, as mentioned in the traditions, and the Prophet Jesus will say his prayers behind him, the Dajjal will be slain, and then the signs of the Almighty will appear one after another." The equivalent word of "Messiah" in Arabic is "al-Maseeh" which means "Wiped Clean; Purified". This word has been used in Quran as the title of Prophet Jesus (as). As such, the "Messiah" is the Prophet Jesus (as) and not the Imam al-Mahdi (as). However, the word "Messiah" in English has another meaning, that is "savior". As a result, there have been some English translators who used the word "Messiah" for Imam al-Mahdi (as) with the meaning of "Savior" which does NOT have anything to do with Arabic word "al-Maseeh". Edited By Ya Ali on 1030634561
  15. Salam Alaykom, I agree with you shiarose in that America does provide freedoms etc, as i live in Australia, and that in many of the so-called Islamic countries, you cant even say anything against the ruling authorities. However, i think the people who are burning the american flags, are burning it as a symbol of Goerge Bush and the rest of his government, because of his unjust stance he has against the muslims. I guess thats the problem with flag burning........its misunderstood. Wassalam
  16. Salam Alaykom, Yes i have heard of the organisation, and have visited the site many times. I know scholars in Australia that do not use the word Imam for the marjei. I dont think you would know them. However, Orion, the fact remains, that some people, like myself and many others, do not feel comfortable in addressing our scholars as Imam....and im pretty sure they also would not feel comfortable. As i said, my leader is Imam Mahdi (may Allah hasten his return). "He who has no Imam is living in the days of ignorance" Prophet Muhammed saws...........obviously my Imam is Imam Mahdi, and my scholars are his representatives. Orion, im not trying to argue with you, and i respect your opinion. I am just hoping that you respect mine. It seems to me that if i dont call particular scholars with the title "Imam", people become upset and think i do not like them. May Allah bless all our scholars. I hope you understand my point of view, i am not trying to force my view upon you. Wassalam
  17. Salam ALaykom, Yes i am aware of that verse. However, my current leader, and thus the leader of mankind is Imam Al-Qaeed Mohammed Mahdi (may Allah hasten his return). While my scholars are leaders as well, they are representatives of my leader. Inshallah you can understand my point of view as well. Again, we all have different opinions, just like the scholars do..... ;) Alot of scholars also share the same view as i have just stated, while others also share your view. So inshallah we have respect for each others opinion. Wassalam
  18. In the Name of the Most High Salam Alaykom, While i understand and agree that Imam means leader, especially in respect when someone is about to lead the prayers i still dont think it should be used for our leaders/scholars....and im not sure if they would feel comfortable with the title as well. I know some scholars that when you call them "mawlana" (master) which is normal, they say "no", with a nice smile, and say "Imam Husayn (a.s.) is your mawla (master)". Obviously, i have nothing against the word mawlana, but im just trying to show that some of our scholars may not feel comfortable with having the title Imam. While some people say it is a word for our leaders/scholars, why is that only a few of our leaders/scholars are called Imams. When the word is used for only certain people, it leads some people thinking that we consider those certain people are the same as our pure Imams.....i have seen this before, where some Sunnis argue that Shias think Ayatulloh Syed Khomeini (ra) was sinless and had powers like the Imams. I know this is because of thier ignorance etc, but i believe that we should leave the word 'Imam' for the imaculate Imams and not for a title for our scholars/leaders, just to differrentiate. Obviously, this is my opinion, and i respect all others. May Allah bless us all and inshallah shows and keeps us on the clear path of guidance. Wassalam Edited By Ya Ali on 1030581059
  19. In the Name of the Most High, Its not that i didnt understand what Sufi was writing, since i didnt read it when i saw the length to his post. What i am saying is that the post was too long, and that it was basically cut and paste. Sorry, my reply was not to do anything with the sufis material. Its just that i have read one of sufis post in the "Iranian president" thread, it was basically a long one and was all cut and paste. I was just agreeing with ya abul akbar Sorry once again for the misunderstanding.....it had nothing to do with what was written in sufis post. Wassalam
  20. In the Name of the Most High Salam Alaykom, Ayatollah Syed Hadi Al-Modarresi is a scholar who has dedicated his whole life in spreading the message of Islam in many regions of the world. Fortunately, his site is finally up, with many of his great speechs! Ayatollah Syed Hadi Al-Modarresi There is also an english section, which has his sons speechs, Syed Mahdi Al-Moderrasi which can be found at this link Syed Mahdi Al-Modarresi
  21. Salam Alaykom, Brother Saleh Ali-Sufi, please i think your a bit brainwashed. I am not brainwashed, in that Iran is infallible. However, the only reason you are attacking Iran is because they are Shia. Iran is probably the only country now that is helping 'Sunni' Palestine. Oh yeh not to mention the help Palestine get from the SHIAS of southern Lebanon. Your 'sunni' governments are doing great arnt they...especially by persecuting the Shias.....hmm.......let me see...... American allies? let me see.....hmmmm SAUDI ARABIA EGYPT JORDAN TURKEY KUWAIT UNITED ARAB EMIRATES PAKISTAN OMAN the list goes!! i just cant be bothered arguing with someone who is brainwashed. As Imam Ali (as) says: "The heart of a fool is in his mouth while the tounge of the wise man is in his heart" we all know where your heart is. Wassalam
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