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Ya Ali

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  1. (bismillah) Salamun Alaykom, Brother, no proof has been shown that Wahdul Wujud is correct. You have only provided what the actual sufis/irfanis say. To say that Wahdul Wujood is is Shirk is not slander/unislamic behaviour. Ayatullah Yazdi not only says they are Kufar but also Najis if they believe in Wahdul Wujood. However, this topc is closed right now brother, this is not the point. Sayed Mahdi Al-Moderrassi (May Allah grant him a long life) is a special guest at Al-Hewar.com. We are lucky and honored to have him at Al-Hewar.com to answer all our brothers/sisters questions. He has answered the question regarding Irfan, backing up his answer with Quran, AhlulBayt and respected scholars. If you have further comments, perhaps you should be on Al-Hewar.com.... Hence, no one has become "strangely silent" my respected brother. May Allah reward Sayed Mahdi Al-Moderrassi for his work. May Allah also reward Shianews.com for their great work. And May Allah swt reward you my respected brother, Shabbirh, for all your work on the internet (islamicdigest.net, e-jihad.net, islamicdebate.com). Its like you live on the net. :) Inshallah your reward is with Allah swt, and may he give you the strength to continue your efforts on the net. And how can we forget, May Allah bless the teams at Shiachat.com and Al-Hewar.com. United we stand, divided we fall. Al-3ajjal Ya Mawla
  2. Unfortunately, it was Abu Bakr who was scared. Abu Bakr was a scared person, perhap those idols that he worshipped for 40 yrs did not come for his help. Then the Holy Prophet said: "Do not fear. Allah is with us." The verse also points out the fact that wherever in the Quran those who received tranquillity (sakinah) from Allah have been mentioned Abu Bakr must be excluded because his fear has been historically recorded and referred to in this verse. "His companion" (sahibihi) and the "second of the two" imply no merit. See verse 37 of Kahf in which out of the two "mutual companions" one was a believer and the other was a disbeliever. Hence, is it possible that abi bakr was scared, frightened and hence the Holy Prophet saws had to console him, to show him that Allah swt is with them. Im just thinking what would of Imam Ali a.s. done on that situation. Lets compare abi bakr to Imam Ali (a.s.), Thalabi, Ghazali, the author of Ahya-ul Ulum, and all the Shia commentators say that this verse was revealed to praise Ali ibna abi Talib, when he slept in the bed of the Holy Prophet, during the night of hijrat. Imam Ali (a.s.) through this obviously shows he knew that the Holy Prophets saws life was worth more than his, that he would risk his life for the sake of Islam, and that he was not scared and hence was content that when he slept, there would be swords over him. Lets compare this to abi bakr..............LOL... so pls, yes you are truely wasting your time. And your brother, inshallah he can laugh as long as he wants, and he is raised on the day of judgement with abi bakr, who will surely be asking for Allah swt mercy. Surely "The Shia of Ali are the real victorious in the day of resurrection/rising" Sunni references: al-Manaqib Ahmad, as mentioned in: Yanabi al-Mawaddah, by al-Qundoozi al-Hanafi, p62 "brave" (DO NOT FEAR, Allah IS WITH US 9:40 ) warriors are not Shia of Ali, but enemies of AhlulBayt. As it is said in - Iqd al-Fareed, by Ibn Abd Rabb, Part 3, Pg. 63 - al-Ghurar, by Ibn Khazaben, related from Zayd Ibn Aslam, Ali and Abbas were sitting inside the house of Fatimah, Abu Bakr told Umar: "Go and bring them; if they refuse, kill them." Umar brought fire to burn the house. Fatimah came near the door and said: "O son of Khattab, have you come to burn our house on me and my children?" Umar replied: "Yes I will, by Allah, until they come out and pay allegiance to the Prophet's Caliph." The similitude of my household among you is that of the ark of Noah: whoever embarks upon it is saved, and whoever lags behind it is drowned," Al-Hakim quotes it from Abu Tharr on page 151, Vol. 3, of his Sahih Al-Mustadrak. So Embark unlike, your leaders who tried to burn AhlulBayts Ark......but then again.....they were brave! <_< Wassalam
  3. Salam Alaykom, As far as i know brother, Islam does not compromise. Are we to say that becuase youths cant get off music, we give them so-called "religious songs". Hmm....so let me see. If we give our youths "relgious songs", then they will become more religious. Lets try and get them into religion, not by songs and music, but by the Light of AhlulBayt, that is why they are there. Brother, if your marjei, im not sure who your so-called Wali Amr is....mine is Imam Al-Mahdi (atf), allowS it then listen to it. But other marjei say it is Haraam, and they apply their reasoning on both Quraan and hadith. There is a book called "Music and its Effects", a Shia one. I dont think it is online though. You should read it, alhamdulilah, it has shown many "youths" the evil of music. For example, Ayatullah Syed Ali Al-Husseini Al-Seestani (may Allah prolong his life) says music is haraam. Unfortunately, your reasoning to allow music is to bring people into religion through music. There is no such thing as an alternative to haraam acts. The Halal alternative is Quran, dua and hadith, hence AHLULBAYT. Please forgive me if i offended anyone, that was not my intention Wassalam
  4. Salamun Alaykom, Sorry Br Ali, i couldnt help it. Narrated Jabir ibn Samura: I heard the Prophet saying, "There will be twelve commanders (Amir)." He then said a sentence which I did not hear. My father said, the Prophet added, "All of them will be from Quraysh." Sahih al-Bukhari(english) Hadith:9.329 Kitabul Ahkam. Sahih al-Bukhari(Arabic) Hadith:4.165 Kitabul Ahkam.. Hadith #6682 (numbering of al-'Alamiyyah) The Prophet (PBUH&HF) said: "The [islamic] religion will continue until the Hour (day of resurrection), having twelve Caliphs for you, all of them will be from Quraysh." Sahih Muslim (Arabic version) Kitab al-Imaara, 1980 Edition Pub. in Saudi Arabia, v3, p1453, Tradition #6 Sahih Muslim, (English version) chapter DCCLIV (titled: The People are subservient to the Quraysh and the Caliphate is the Right of the Quraysh),v3, p1010, Tradition #4478. Hadith #3394 (numbering of al-'Alamiyyah) Narrated Jabir ibn Samura: The Prophet (PBUH&HF) said: "This matter (life) will not end, until it is passed by twelve Caliphs." He then whispered a sentence. I asked my father what the Prophet said. He said, the Prophet added: "All of them will be from Quraysh." Sahih Muslim (Arabic version)Kitab al-Imaara, 1980 Edition Pub. in Saudi Arabia,v3, p1453, Tradition #7 Sahih Muslim, (English version)Chapter DCCLIV (titled: The People are subservient to the Quraysh and the Caliphate is the Right of the Quraysh), v3, p1010, Tradition #4479 Hadith #3395 (numbering of al-'Alamiyyah) Narrated Jabir ibn Samura: The Prophet (PBUH&HF) said: "This matter (life) will not end, until it is passed by twelve Caliphs." He then whispered a sentence. I asked my father what the Prophet said. He said, the Prophet added: "All of them will be from Quraysh." Sahih Muslim (Arabic version) Kitab al-Imaara, 1980 Edition Pub. in Saudi Arabia, v3, p1452, Tradition #5 Sahih Muslim, (English version) Chapter DCCLIV (titled: The People are subservient to the Quraysh and the Caliphate is the Right of the Quraysh), v3, p1009, Tradition #4477 Hadith #3393 (numbering of al-'Alamiyyah) The Prophet (PBUH&HF) said: "There will be after me twelve Amir (Prince/Ruler), all of them from Quraysh." Sunan al-Tirmidhi (Arabic) Chapter of Fitan, 2:45 (India) and 4:501 Tradition # 2225 (Egypt) Hadith #2149 (numbering of al-'Alamiyyah) Wassalam
  5. bismillah (salam) Yes, it is unfortunate that he is unable to get out of his house and have the freedom to walk around. Not only shall we pray for his health, but we shall also pray for him being released from his house arrest and therefore end all oppression that has occured towards him and his followers..........after that he will be able to take that beutiful morning stroll that we take for granted, and that goes for all the oppressed people in the world, where ever they may be. O' Lord! We eagerly desire that You assign us to the just, fair Islamic government, (the which is really the rightful government of Imam Mahdi, may Allah hasten his reappearance). Through his auspicious government, thou reactivate and dearly love Islam and its followers while thou humiliate hypocrisy and the hypocrite. And, in that period, include us among those who invite people unto Thy obedience and lead them to Thy path of guidance; and, endow us the honour and grandeur of both this world and the next. Bihar-ul-Anwar Wassalam
  6. bismillah (salam) Part of a speech by Shiek Muhammad Ali Shomali on Irfan is quoted below....Islamic Sciences in Qum and Meshad, and at the University of Tehran. Noew lets see what Syed Aktar Rizvi says... Wassalam Edited By Ya Ali on 1035602770
  7. Ibn Arabi, the most infamous Sufi philosopher, including most of his heretical ideas in his book, the Bezels of Wisdom, which he alleged was given to him by the Prophet Muhammad . He wrote: "I saw the Prophet in a visitation granted to me in the latter part of Muharram in the year 627 A.H. in the city of Damascus. He had in his hand a book, and he said to me, 'This is the book of Bezels of Wisdom; take it and bring it to men, that they might benefit from it.'" وَقَالُوا لَا تَذَرُنَّ آلِهَتَكُمْ وَلَا تَذَرُنَّ وَدًّا وَلَا سُوَاعًا وَلَا يَغُوثَ وَيَعُوقَ وَنَسْرًا And they (Noah's people) said, 'Do not abondon your gods, neither Wad, Suwa', Yaghooth, Ya'ooq nor Nasr.'"(71.23) On which Ibn Arabi commented: "If they (Noah's people) had abondoned them, they would have become ignorant of the Reality to the extent that they them, for in every object of worship there is a reflection of Reality, whether it be recognized or not." Well, i do not believe Ibn Arabi to be the greatest man!, or having anything go to do with Islam, and far from giving me spiritual advice, since AhlulBayt are my light, not Ibn Arabi who thought everything was God, incluiding the toilet seat (astagfriallah) I think i will stick to AhlulBayt and the Quran, the weighty things, and not some ancient Greek Philosophy that Ibn Arabi, "the greatest man" follow, with the concept of wuhdul wujud, in which marjei reject, as stated by AbdulHujjah, this is my opinion, i am not being bias, and this is the same opinion that Syed Aktar Rizvi holds. Inshallah i have not offended anyone, this was not my intention. Wassalam Edited By Ya Ali on 1035593848
  8. Bismallah (salam) I guess Sued Aktar Rizvi is also bias and has a lack of undertstanding, as well as all the Ulema that AbdulHujjah has stated such as Syed Seestani, Syed Al-Khoei, Shiek Wahid Khorasan....look my brothers and sisters, i have asked marjei on this issue, and all their representatives, my friend just asked a Mujtahid the other day, and came to the same conclusion. As AbdulHujjah stated, some Ulema say this is right, while others dont.....i guess that means all those who reject Wuhdut Wujud are bais????.....like Syed Aktar Rizvi??
  9. Brother Shabbirh, Abdulhujjah has every right....and his opinion is also agree by Syed Seestani, Syed Al-Khoei, Shiek Wahid Khoransan, Syed Shirazi, and also many others. Syed Aktar Rizvis (ra) - Im sure you have all heard of this great scholar - More than one hundred books are to his credit; some of them have been translated into seventeen languages. He has been given Ijazah by fourteen Grand Ayatullahs for riwayah, Qazawah, and Umur-e-hasbiyah. Syed Aktar Rizvi has written on Wuhdut Wujud briefly and how it is "shirk" (following AbdulHujjahs argument) in his book "Day of Judgement": So, AbdulHujjah does have a point. People, if you are trying to worship Allah swt for the sake of Allah, and not only for the from fear of Hell, or for the reward of Paradise, then you are following AhlulBayt...this is not called irfaan/sufism, this is basically ISLAM. If you believe in Wuhdut Wujud, as our sufi brother Shabbirh, then you are a true follower of irfaan/sufism, as Ibn Arabi, Ibn Sina and Rumi were. Wassalam Edited By Ya Ali on 1035546521
  10. bismillah (salam) Well, congratulations Ehsan, you are following AhlulBayt and the Quran, the two weighty things, no this is not "Wahdat Wujud", this is Taqwa, peity, following AhlulBayt, inshallah we all do this. However, as you pointed out you do not believe that you are part of Allah, which is what irfaan/sufism really is. So we should not call it "irfaan" or "sufism" what your doing, but Islam...since we gain all our spiritual adivce from AhlulBayt, and not from some people that think they are part of God, like Ibn Sina, Ibn Arabi and Rumi. in which both sufis and irfaanis get their "spiritual advice, in which all of whom where influenced by Plato and Aristotle as the question posed to Syed Seestani. For e.g. Ibn Arabi, the most infamous Sufi philosopher, including most of his heretical ideas in his book, the Bezels of Wisdom, which he alleged was given to him by the Prophet Muhammad . He wrote: "I saw the Prophet in a visitation granted to me in the latter part of Muharram in the year 627 A.H. in the city of Damascus. He had in his hand a book, and he said to me, 'This is the book of Bezels of Wisdom; take it and bring it to men, that they might benefit from it.'" bismillah وَقَالُوا لَا تَذَرُنَّ آلِهَتَكُمْ وَلَا تَذَرُنَّ وَدًّا وَلَا سُوَاعًا وَلَا يَغُوثَ وَيَعُوقَ وَنَسْرًا And they (Noah's people) said, 'Do not abondon your gods, neither Wad, Suwa', Yaghooth, Ya'ooq nor Nasr.'"(71.23) On which Ibn Arabi commented: "If they (Noah's people) had abondoned them, they would have become ignorant of the Reality to the extent that they them, for in every object of worship there is a reflection of Reality, whether it be recognized or not." Also, people unfortunately think Irfaan is just becoming more spiritual etc...if that is what you think it is well contine doing it...this is what Islam is not sufism/irfaan...since you are only gainin taqwa etc which is coming from AhlulBayt. Unfortunately, shabbirh, it looks like you are the true follower of Sufism/Irfaan, as you believe you are part of God with the Wuhdut Wujud concept.
  11. Salam Alaykom, I would totally agree with Hajar. Reform/improvement is continous, we can never reach the 'perfect' Islamic government unless we have an Imam, and therefore Imam Mahdi (as) for our time. Inshallah the Islamic Republic in Iran improves and shows the world the true nature of an Islamic system. Indianpride: i think external forces have a major role in what you are talking about.....such as the oppressive Zionist entity, 'israel' and the disguised so-called democracy of the USA who is nothing but a leader of hypocracy, who only try to lower the status of muslims and the Islamic ummah e.g. Iraq (they are the one who put Saddam in power) Wassalm Edited By Ya Ali on 1033877128
  12. Salam Alaykom, Yes, no one would question Imam Mahdi (atf) since he is Gods representative on earth, and he is a masoom member of the Holy AhlulBayt. Syed Khamanei is not. We are saying there is mistreatment/oppression going on against our scholars in Iran and as the Ayatullah Khomeini (ra) pointed out: "Anyone who governs a country is responsible for all oppression that happens within the country regardless of whether he has knowledge of it or not...." Grand Ayatullah Saanei, is a marjei, who has beenleadin calls for the end of mistreatment to scholars such as to the end of the current house arrest of Ayatullah Montazeri. Ayatollah Saanei is one of the most revered and influential religious authorities in the holy city of Qom. Prior to the revolution he was a protégé of Ayatollah Khomeini, who once described him as being like a son. He served on the first Council of Guardians after the revolution, and later as the Islamic Republic's chief prosecutor. As Ayatullah Saaneei has said " In Islam and Shiite world, infallibility had been limited to a very specific and small number of individuals. No one is infallible, especially when it comes to people's affairs. The country is managed by the will of the people. We cannot say that decision of one individual is right and the beliefs of others are wrong. In an Islamic system everyone has one vote, from the Supreme Leader, to the President and all other authorities. [b:post_uid0]The Supreme Leader has only one vote and he should not be able to impose his ideas on anyone else[/b:post_uid0]. He is not infallible. He is capable of making mistakes just like everyone else. To err is human." On the issue of Tatbeer....again. Once again, we have to point out its not the issue of whos right/wrong. The fact is that the majority of scholars have allowed it, and people are not allowed to exercise their religious rites. As i have said many times before Ayatollah Sayed Mohammed Sadeq Rouhani, has also been held under house arrest in Qom for more than 12 years came under pressure from the authorities in mid-1995 after he wrote an open letter to President Ali Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani, in which he criticized restrictions on traditional religious rites during the mourning period of Ashura; and human rights violations against those who participated in such rites, including arrests and imprisonment of large numbers of people; and the exile, beatings, and reported killings of some. What the above marjei has said, this is what we are against. Tatbeer etc was only mentioned as an issue that has lead to mistreatment as stated above by Ayatullah Rouhani. Many people have been saying that its Irans country let them do what they want etc as stated above.Yes itis their country etc.......then why do you try and impose Irans leaders ideas onto people, and therefore call him the "leader of the Ummah". All our scholars are our leaders. Even if it is agreed that Irans country should be able to do what it wants, justice has to prevail, and injustice must be condemned. The Holy Prophet said: "The one who sees a wrong action done should prohibit it by his deed, if he is capable, of course; and if he cannot do that, he should prohibit it by his tongue, but if he is not able to do even that, he may forbid it by his heart." Wasa'il-ush-Shi'ah Many great people died for the great Iranian revolution.This is the same in South Lebanon, where i even had family members killed :cry: Ayatullah Montazeri, who is under house arrest, lost his learned son, a scholar, when he was brutully killed by the MKO. Therefore, many scholars who are being mistreated also bled for the revolution and still do. As i have said before, we are merely protesting against the treatment of scholars etc, not going against Iran. Also, one must keep in mind that"the ink of a scholar is worth more than the blood of a martyr" The Holy Prophet pbuh What will be coming towards me, hmm....house arrest maybe? Im not sure what you meant bro/sis. There can be no reason/excuse for tortue etc Many scholars have done nothing but raised their opinions against certain issues (e.g. wiliyah, tatbeer, running of country etc) and for that they have been oppressed. I will never accept the mistreatment against our marjei. Wassalam Edited By Ya Ali on 1033869226
  13. Salam Alaykom, I agree with Dhulfiqar. The issue is not Tatbeer, it is the mistreatment of scholars. Yes he is more knowledgeable than us and so are the following marjei who allow it: Ayatullah Syed Ali Seestani Ayatollah al-Udhma al-Seyyid al-Kho’i The former leader of the Hawzah of the holy city of Najaf. al-Sheikh Abdul Kareem al-Ha’ery The Founder of the current Hawzah in the holy city of Qum. Ayatollah al-Udhma al-Sheikh Muhammad al-Araki, Ayatollah al-Udhma al-Seyyid Muhammad Ridha al-Gulpaygani, Ayatollah al-Udhma al-Seyyid Shahab-el-Deen al-Mar’ashi al-Najafi, Ayatollah al-Udhma al-Seyyid Hassan al-Tabataba’e al-Qummi, he was also put under house arrest Ayatollah al-Udhma al-Seyyid Muhammad al-Waheedi, Al-Imam al-Sheikh Muhammad Hussain al-Naa’ini, The teacher of the Maraje’ of the holy city of Najaf. Ayatollah al-Udhma al-Seyyid Mohsen al-Hakim, Ayatollah al-Udhma al-Seyyid Muhammad Kaadhem al-Shari’atMadari, Ayatollah al-Udhma al-Seyyid Abd-el-A’la al-Sabzewary Ayatollah Khorasani Grand Ayatollah Langaroudi Grand Ayatollah Behjat Grand Ayatollah Safi Gulpaygani Grand Ayatollah Mirza Jawad Tabrizi Grand Ayatollah Muhammad Sadiq Rouhani Grand Ayatollah Sayyid Sadiq Shirazi Ayatollah al-Udhma Abtahi Grand Ayatollah Muhammad Shirazi. Yes when it comes to our family members etc, then we do not do that. But the Imams are in a different position. Why do you beat you chest? I also remind you of the companion who took out his teeth and also Zeinab. There is a natural attachment to the holy Imams, and when we hear of their stories, it is unbearable. Id just like to point out when Syed Khoemeini (ra), the leader of the Islamic Revolution passed away from natural death, people where in the streets, millions, hitting their heads, faces and chests with mourning. Well, this is Imam Hussein (as), who died not of a natural death, but of a brutal massacre along with many holy souls. Therefore it is natural. Yes the story is sahih. Alot of pious people also do zanjeer. THE ISSUE IS NOT TATBEER. I do not care if a person says it is haram so we may look better in front of the west etc, this is their opinion. The problem is when scholars and their followers are not allowed to carry out what they think is allowed and also mustahab. The issue is not whether Tatber is right or wrong, since many scholars allow it. It is the fact that the law in Iran does not allow the viewpoints of many scholars to put upheld. As i have said before Ayatollah Sayed Mohammed Sadeq Rouhani, has also been held under house arrest in Qom for more than 12 years came under pressure from the authorities in mid-1995 after he wrote an open letter to President Ali Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani, in which he criticized restrictions on traditional religious rites during the mourning period of Ashura; and human rights violations against those who participated in such rites, including arrests and imprisonment of large numbers of people; and the exile, beatings, and reported killings of some. Marjei have therefore raised their concerns about the restrictions on them carrying out their rights, which nearly the majority of scholars allow it. The point is that oppression also occurs when people cannot carry out their religious rites, in which many scholars agree to. Tatbeer in it being wrong/right is a secondary issue. Wassalam Edited By Ya Ali on 1033714136
  14. Salam Alaykom, People are onece again using the same old narrow minded views, that if someone has a protest against the mistreatment of a scholar it is that he/she is rebelling. It is a mere grievance we have with the oppression that is going on with the treatment of scholars. Once again, people say it is Anti-revolutionary, anti-Iran, Anti-Islam and therefore you are a Kufr if you dare to say something about Iran. Look, I support the revolution as much as anyone here, but when something happens, i will raise my voice, i would want something to be fixed, but unfortunately it has not. Iran is nothing like the Imams. The Imams (as) were infallible. When Imam Ali (as) was leader he addressed all peoples problems, Iran is unfortunately not doing that. Imam Amir ul Mu'mineen Ali [a] said: "By Allah, even if I am given all the domains of the seven countries with all that exists under the skies in order that I may disobey Allah to the extent of snatching one grain of barley from an ant, I would not do it." Nahjul-Balagha Imam Ali (as) was always [b:post_uid0] JUST [/b:post_uid0]. Im pretty sure if he saw what he was going on with the scholars, he wouldnt like that. No matter, even if a prisoner was mistreated, Imam Ali (as) would make sure he has his rights. Once again i am not against anyone. The truth is there is a problem, and it needs to be fixed. I am not trying to undermine as i want Iran to become the best nation in the world here, and improve in all areas. Mashallah it has come in long way. There were more than two cases brother.... But even then, it is 2 scholars (we have a hadith thats says the death of a scholar is sadder then the sadder then the death of a community....). Imam Ali (as) : "The greatest sin is the one that you consider to be the smallest". Please ppl tabeer is a secondary issue. Im am not against anyone that says its not ok, but i am against the fact that it is [b:post_uid0] illegal [/b:post_uid0] in Iran, while most scholars allow it. I have also written in my above posts with the mistreatment of scholars who wanted to practice their reliigious rites when it comes to tatbeer. Wassalam Edited By Ya Ali on 1033692558
  15. Salam Alaykom, Syed Khomeini(ra) lead the greatest revolution. May Allah reward him for that. As i said before, Allah is the knower of all things. Orion, this topic is not about me, it is about the incidents that have occured and that are occuring. Allah knows best Wassalam
  16. Salam Alaykom, Allah is the knower of all things my brother. As i said, many incidents have taken place throughout the years against scholars. I have stated my opinion about my these incidents, and so have many others. Once again.......Sayyid Khomeini (ra) says, "Anyone who governs a country is responsible for all oppression that happens within the country regardless of whether he has knowledge of it or not, so therefore Shah was an opressor and a tyrant". Once again, Orion, Allah is the knower of all things. Wassalam
  17. Salam Alaykom, Sayyid Khomeini (ra) says "Anyone who governs a country is responsible for all oppression that happens within the country regardless of whether he has knowledge of it or not, so therefore Shah was an opressor and a tyrant". Sayyid Khomeini (ra) pulled off the greatest revolution in Iran. Inshallah it is stengthened and improved. The point is that there has been mistreatment against scholars after the revolution, and until now. Syed Golaypayganni's letter was only one example. The reasons for mistreatment/oppression has been on issues such mentioned in the above posts. Allah is the knower of All things, i am not. Wassalam
  18. (salam) "Nothing is more ornamental than courtesy" Imam Ali (as) Perhaps you should take that in sag-ImamReza. Well, alhamdulilah i am still young, but i see myself as a young man, not a little boy. It is ok, you have put me in the category of Holy Schmuck, and i am now a "little boy". It is ok, i can forgive you, May Allah help you. I am sure Imam Reza (as) will not be happy with your language. Lets get back on the topic. I just showed you all the fatwas of tatbeer. They believe we can do it, my marjei says i can do it. Just because a so-called wiliyah al-faqih says no, i can still do it if i want to. This is my right, but as usual you want to take it away from me as people have been taking the rights of many scholars. All countries belong to Allah swt. I believe the Islamic Ummah is one and has no boundaries as it says in the Holy Quran. "This, your community is a single community and I am your Lord; so worship Me" Yes alhamdulilah, it was the greatest revolution. Lots of scholars lost their lives. All scholars at the time played a role in the revolution. I pray Iran improves. However, we must speak the truth at all times. I will try and always stand up for justice. That does not mean im trying to bring a country down does it. Imam Ali (as) always used to answer the grievances of his people. So, dont cry, im not trying to mess it up. Im trying to speak truth and justice. Unfortunately, i do not know it all. I wish i can grasp a bit of knowledge my brother. Inshallah that dream comes to me. Alhamdulilah i do have books, but no that many. I pray to Allah swt to provide me with as much books as possible, so i can follow the words of our Prophet saws "seek knowledge from the cradle to your grave" I have already forgiven you for calling me a 'donkey'. Inshallah Allah forgives you too. Wassalam Edited By Ya Ali on 1033661427
  19. Salam Alaykom, The problem is not Wiliyat Al-faqih, or tatbeer or anything else. We are fighting on the issue that scholars should not be mistreated, oppressed for their differing views. Many scholars that are oppressed for e.g. Shiek Montazeri, is the one who helped write out the wiliyat al-faqih, but he believes it is being implemented wrong and in an unjust manner. This is the similar view of Ayatullah Saneei, the marjei, who alhamdulilah is not under house arrest as yet. What Seestani said in terms of wiliyat al-faqih is that all scholars have the position....as in it is not 'one' leader. Syed Shirazi also holds the view of consultation in terms of wiiyat al-faqih, as abdulhasanain pointed out. Many scholars who are in Iran have raised their voices. As i said before, even Syed Golaypayganni raised his objections to the "INSULT" as the marjei put it, with the pathetic treatment of Syed Shariatmadari burial. Wassalam
  20. Salam Alaykom, Ya Zahra has answered your question sag-ImamReza. As she/he said, those are secondary issues. The issue is oppression and Justice. Wassalam
  21. Salam Alaykom As i have said before. Many scholars have said it is ok. It depends on your scholar. Tatbeer is not the issue here, it is oppression. Peer Syed, made a good point. Most scholars allow it, but becuase Syed Khamanei does not allow it, it is illegal in Iran. This is another form of oppression, not allowing people to practice their religious rites. Most recently, Ayatollah Sayed Mohammed Sadeq Rouhani, has also been held under house arrest in Qom for more than 12 years came under pressure from the authorities in mid-1995 after he wrote an open letter to President Ali Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani, in which he criticized restrictions on traditional religious rites during the mourning period of Ashura; and human rights violations against those who participated in such rites, including arrests and imprisonment of large numbers of people; and the exile, beatings, and reported killings of some. The issue is oppression, not Tatbeer. Wassalam
  22. Salam Alaykom, History records incidents with conduct by Owais Qarani, who hurt himself, breaking his own teeth in grief for the suffering of the Holy Prophet in Ohad.It is a natural attachment to the Holy Imams especially Imam Hussein (as), the King of Martyrs If you dont understand read up on it. Perhaps you should ask the following scholars (just a few) how they came to their "irrational" view of allowing it: al-Sheikh Abdul Kareem al-Ha’ery The Founder of the current Hawzah in the holy city of Qum. “The hitting of swords on the heads (causing bleeding) is alright (allowed) provided there is no harm to the person doing this. Furthermore no one has the right to prohibit this (hitting the head with sword). In fact all kinds of TA’ZIAH – mourning – for SEYYED AL-SHUHADA’ – Imam Hussain – may our souls be sacrificed for him, are MUSTAHAB – desirable deeds.” The above Fatwa by al-Sheikh Abdul Kareem al-Ha’ery was endorsed and signed by the following eminent Maraje’: Ayatollah al-Udhma al-Sheikh Muhammad al-Araki, Ayatollah al-Udhma al-Seyyid Muhammad Ridha al-Gulpaygani, Ayatollah al-Udhma al-Seyyid Shahab-el-Deen al-Mar’ashi al-Najafi, Ayatollah al-Udhma al-Seyyid Hassan al-Tabataba’e al-Qummi, he was also put under house arrest Ayatollah al-Udhma al-Seyyid Muhammad al-Waheedi, Al-Imam al-Sheikh Muhammad Hussain al-Naa’ini, The teacher of the Maraje’ of the holy city of Najaf. “There is no doubt as to the permissibility of the beating of the chest and the face with the hands to the point of redness or blackness (of the chest or the face). This is also extended to the lashing of the shoulders and the back with chains to the extent mentioned (above), and even if this led to bleeding. As for causing the bleeding of the head by sword beating, this is also allowed provided it does not lead to endangering harm, such as unstoppable bleeding or harm to the scull, etc. as it is known amongst the experts in doing this (hitting on the head).” The above Fatwa by al-Imam al-Sheikh Muhammad Hussain al-Naa’ini was endorsed and signed by the following eminent Maraje’: Ayatollah al-Udhma al-Seyyid Mohsen al-Hakim, Ayatollah al-Udhma al-Seyyid Muhammad Kaadhem al-Shari’atMadari, Ayatollah al-Udhma al-Seyyid Abd-el-A’la al-Sabzewary Ayatollah Khorasani [b:post_uid0]Ayatollah al-Udhma al-Seyyid al-Kho’i [/b:post_uid0] The former leader of the Hawzah of the holy city of Najaf. Question:Is there any problem with causing the bleeding of the head – TATBIR – as it is practiced, to express one’s grief about the martyrdom of our Imam Hussain peace be upon him, assuming there is going to be no permanent harm? Answer: There is no problem with that, given the assumption made in the question, and Allah knows best. Question: You stated that there is no problem in causing the bleeding of the head – known as TATBIR – if it does not lead to harm. It is said that it is not more than a permissible act, then can TATBIR be MUSTAHAB – desirable – if the intention was the upholding and honouring the Sha’a’er – signs of Allah – and sympathy with the Ahl-ul-Bayt, peace be upon them? Answer: Most probably Allah Almighty would give thawab – reward (the individual) – for sympathising with the Ahl-ul-Bayt if the intention is sincere. [b:post_uid0]Ayatullah Syed Ali Seestani [/b:post_uid0] Question: What is the ruling regarding the lashing with chains, chest beating, and walking on fire on the occasion of mourning the martyrdom of Imam Hussain peace be upon him? Answer: If (these are) not associated with extreme harm or loss of limb, there is no objection. Fatwa of Grand Ayatollah Langaroudi (may Allah Almighty protect him) Salaam upon the Lovers of Imam Hussain In our opinion since Aba Abdillah al-Hussain alayhis-salam is Thar-Allah, the Blood of Allah, then it would be appropriate, but in fact imperative that for the Blood of Allah, the blood of the creatures of Allah is shed. Therefore not only Qama-Zani is permissible, but it is also regarded as one of the Sha'a'er and it has great, and extensive Thawab (reward). Fatwa of Grand Ayatollah Behjat (may Allah Almighty protect him) In the case of it not being harmful, there is no problem with it. Fatwa of Grand Ayatollah Safi Gulpaygani (may Allah Almighty protect him) For the Azadari (mourning) of Sayyid al-Shuhada, Master of the Martyrs, if it does not accompany unusual harm, then there is absolutely no problem with it. Fatwa of Grand Ayatollah Mirza Jawad Tabrizi (may Allah Almighty protect him) There is no objection Qama-Zani in its own right. Fatwa of Grand Ayatollah Muhammad Sadiq Rouhani (may Allah Almighty protect him)......a scholar who has unfortunately been oppressed as well To do Qama-Zani is a very good act indeed, and to perform Qama-Zani in public enhances the excellence of this act, and if one is harmed in the process, the reward (Thawab) for this act will be increased even further. One of the things that I regret not doing is that I did not have the honour to perform this great practice, and now that I am old and frail, I am unable to perform it. In any case, from all the people who have had the honour to perform this religious symbol I wish to ask them to pray for me after performing Qama-Zani. woops the next is a Shirazi, i hope people can handle it...lol Fatwa of Grand Ayatollah Sayyid Sadiq Shirazi (may Allah Almighty protect him) Bismillah al-Rahman al-Rahim To perform Qama-Zani, whether in secret or in public, and other kinds of Azadari for Sayyid al-Shuhada Aba Abdillah al-Hussain - may my soul be his sacrifice and peace and blessings of Allah be upon him - brings about the pleasure of Allah Almighty as well as Imam Mahdi - may Allah hasten his reappearance - InSha'Allah. {And he who glorifies the Sha'a'er of Allah, surely it is from the piety of the hearts.} [The Holy Qur'an: Ayah 32 of Surah al-Hajj]. Ayatollah al-Udhma Abtahi If it does not cause death, or unbearable harm, it should not be prohibited. For Allah is the Knower and Helper to the good. ohh no, another Shirazi, sorry people...i know some people dont like to see this name.... Grand Ayatollah Muhammad Shirazi. Question What is your position of Zanjeer and the use of knives, blades, and hooked Chains to shed your own blood during Muharram ... Is this sort of act haraam, halaal or makrooh? Is this the Sunnah of the Ahl-ul-Bayt at all? Answer The shedding of blood during Muharram for Imam Hussain, peace be upon him, is not only Halaal, but it is also very Mustahab indeed, and all PROMINANT scholars and religious authorities - Maraje' - always encouraged it throughout the history of Islam. This included the Tatbir or Qamah-Zani - which is the hitting of the head with swords. The Maraje' have even decreed that it is acceptable and permissible if one is harmed in this process, provided of course the injuries sustained do not constitute permanent injuries or endanger the life of the individual. Also Syed Khoei and Syed Seestani allowed it. View Point of Quaid-e-Millat-e-Jafariya Pakistan Agha Syed Hamid Ali Shah Moosavi Qama and Zanjeer zani are in fact for the protection of divine law, honour of Shariat-e-Mustafawi and dissemination of Murtazawi thinking and teaching as well as promotion of Shabbiri objectives and elevation and eminence of Islamic world. Many scholars have said it is ok. It depends on your scholar. Tatbeer is not the issue here, it is oppression. Peer Syed, made a good point. Most scholars allow it, but becuase Syed Khamanei does not allow it, it is illegal in Iran. This is another form of oppression, not allowing people to practice their religious rites. Wassalam Edited By Ya Ali on 1033657704
  23. Salam Alaykom, I am posting again in this topic, becuase some narrow-minded people have gone too far. That is funny, becuase many scholars are against it. Not only that, but many that are with the wiliyat al-faqih believe it is implemented wrong. Many marjie such as Ayatullah Saneei, believe it is being implemented wrong, then the way it has been written up......and Ayatullah Saneei has not been condemned, nor is he under house arrest....he basically speaks the truth.... Syed al-Khoei never accepted or rejected it pubically, perhaps he was "abstaining", but then again as you put it, if you abstain you are against Imam Mahdi (af) ALLAHU AKABR!! They understand!!! Oppression can happen in Iran my brothers and sisters.......it can happen, Iran is NOT sinless. I believe oppression is occuring in Iran against scholars. No im not rebelling, i am rising up for their rights by speaking out...The Holy Prophet said: "The one who sees a wrong action done should prohibit it by his deed, if he is capable, of course; and if he cannot do that, he should prohibit it by his tongue, but if he is not able to do even that, he may forbid it by his heart." Wasa'il-ush-Shi'ah No i am not against the Revolution, i want it to improve, i am only standing up for what is JUST. No i am not a with USA ..... i mean seriously, these are the only arguments some people can raise.LOL No i am not a "shirazi" which is irrelevant, just liked to point it out as some people love to demonise them, i am a "seestaniya" :D , my marjei is Syed Seestani (may Allah prolong his life), he too is under "house arrest", being oppressed by Saddam. The issue here isnt the CONCEPT of Wiliyah al-faqih, it is oppression. But, you my brother have just called millions of muslims and alot of scholars Kufr (since if you reject one Imam, you reject the Prophet Muhammed saws)..... You, as you said about Syed Shirazi was a self-decalred marjei (may Allah help you from your narrowmind), you have just made a self-declaration you have knowledge of the future. "MARK MY WORDS", no offence brother, but we do not care what your words are, how dare you say people that are not with a concept, have indeed rejected Imam Mahdi (may Allah hasten his reappearance, to show the world the true JUST government)....SHAME on you. Shame on you....... What if there is oppression under this wiliyah???..... Syed Khoemeini said "Anyone who governs a country is responsible for all oppression that happens within the country regardless of whether he has knowledge of it or not, so therefore Shah was an opressor and a tyrant" Hmm........i believe oppression is occurring under Iran today against certain scholars, does this make me with the side of USA....i have to laugh at your arguments, i mean.....seriously....... You think people are "against" Iran because they protest against the treatment of scholars, you straight away term people anti-revolutionary, therefore anti-Iran, therefore anti-wiliyah therefore anti-Imam Mahdi (astagfriallah) and therefore KUFR............these are the same arguments people always make, and they are tunnel vision, narrow minded, sick views. May Allah help you. By the way, is Islam against protests?? This is protesting against injustice.....especailly in terms of a fallible government. Imam Ali as used to go address the greviences of all the people after his sermons and used to try and solve them personally. lol....your funny. No sorry not that simple....you are very simple like George Bush thats for sure (you are either with us or against us) The Holy Prophet said: "There will come a time for my Ummah when their rulers will be cruel, their scholars will be greedy and have little piety, their worshippers (will act) hypocritically, their merchants will commit usury and conceal the defects of their buyings and sellings and their women will be busy with the ornaments of the world. Hence, at this time, the most vicious of them will dominate over them, and their good doers will invocate but they will not be answered." Bihar-uI-Anwar The Ummah leaders (hence the 's', plural), not leader, will be cruel, even the scholars. This is where Imam Mahdi as will come in and say this is what a JUST government is. Im sorry to tell you this, but no one is like Imam Mahdi. No wiliyat al-faqih is even like him. The wiliyah is not sinless, and he can be "CRUEL", as the prophet saws said. Im am not conferring that anyone is cruel..Allah is the judge of that. The Iranian leader is NOT my sole leader. Imam Mahdi (may Allah hasten his reappearance) is my leader. My marjei is Syed Seestani. I unfortunately did not run in any elections in Iran. The wiliyah is just another scholar and like [b:post_uid10]all[/b:post_uid10] scholars they are reps of Imam Mahdi may Allah hasten his reappearance) and Imam Mahdi is my leader. Hajar Well, i also believe that there are some people are causing some oppression to scholars.....can i think that, if you think what you said. Lets keep in mind "Anyone who governs a country is responsible for all oppression that happens within the country regardless of whether he has knowledge of it or not, so therefore Shah was an opressor and a tyrant" Syed Khoemeini (ra). When poeple came up to Imam Ali (as) during his caliphate he addressed their problems. I think his time was much more crucial. I am simply putting forward problems that are occuring in Iran (as someone asked in the topic), not triyn to bring it down..like many other people are in Iran, but they have paid the price. LOL....yes i am not like Syed Golaypayganni, and no one is like Imam Mahdi as..... However, i was merely making the point that some injustice did occur as Syed Golaypaganni pointed out!! That is all. Because you obviously dont want to believe me, so why cant you believe Syed Golaypaganni. He spoke out. thats all i was trying to establish. He saw a wrong and he spoke out. Thats what many people do! "the true arbitration of [the quarrel] between Your Excellency and Ayatollah Shariatmadari ... is in the hands of Almighty God. I deem it necessary to express my intense regret over the events of the burial, which has occurred without the required ceremonies and paying of respects and the covert burial [of his body] in an unsuitable place. I expect now that you will personally provide recompense ... for the insults which have been directed at him and his position as marja-ye taqlid". umm.....one small point....Irans leaders are not Imam Mahdi (as) or anything like the Imams. They are not infallible. Yes, many people will raise doubts about our Imam, but it doesnt mean if someone protests about the treatment of the a scholar to a certain falliable government, that is the same as raising doubts to our Imam Mahdi (as)......The Holy Prophet said: "The one who sees a wrong action done should prohibit it by his deed, if he is capable, of course; and if he cannot do that, he should prohibit it by his tongue, but if he is not able to do even that, he may forbid it by his heart." Wasa'il-ush-Shi'ah ITS NOT REBELLING, REVOLTING,....it is speaking out, it is protesting, we want justice, that is all. We are standing up to an oppression. May Allah bless us all, inshallah, and may Allah hasten the reappearance of our true leader, the true Imam Al-Qaeed, the Just, IMAM MAHDI (as) O' Allah! We eagerly desire that You assign us to the just, fair Islamic government, (the which is really the rightful government of Imam Mahdi, may Allah hasten his reappearance). Through his auspicious government, thou reactivate and dearly love Islam and its followers while thou humiliate hypocrisy and the hypocrite. And, in that period, include us among those who invite people unto Thy obedience and lead them to Thy path of guidance; and, endow us the honour and grandeur of both this world and the next. Bihar-ul-Anwar Wassalam
  24. Salam Alaykom, two words to Ya Zahra: Thank You Wassalam
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