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  1. So you essentially saying in some sort of scenario, if a woman does not want to sleep with a man it is morally justifiable for him to impose himself? If you can give me an example ill work with you otherwise that's alot of words to essentially say rape is ok sometimes. For your example to force feeding, again controversial but if given consent you are letting them do as they please, if you force feed you are saving their lives, not the same as getting your own sexual pleasure fulfilled against someone else's will. Adultery is not moral as it harms another party, and again consent is required from both parties to commit such an act but you cannot equate the two the same way because we never said adultery is justified due to consent, as what is does with 'sex slaves'. I will stop commenting as I think I've gone on long enough, I hope people reflect on this.
  2. Yes that is correct a small number to what I saw have said marriage is also required however theres not much justificationfor the latter. One major point that is raised against the Hadith claiming the slaves gave consent was that no woman would be seduced and want to have intercourse with a man who just killed her family and taken them as captives and made to work to regain their 'freedom'. This is used to say that the consent was made up when written down. I always like to present both sides of the story, and you can make judgement. Yes pretty much.
  3. Almost all allow but on different spectrums, I.e. some say it either has to be consensual and some say can be non consensual and can share them like property as mentioned previously. I don't have specifics as ive read so many I don’t keep track, though it is very easy to search up many scholars and their opinions I guarantee the same results
  4. That is how to acquire slaves yes, and many try to sweep it under the rug saying it wont happen again. If Israel attacks any country, and that victim country retaliates and wins the war, then suddenly all this sex slavery stuff will be 100% islamically justified. Now imagine women and children who havent got anything to do with such wars being victim so such ideas. Wars are waged all the time, all you have to do is point at who started it. When I referred to the ISIS, it is not the method they acquired them to be halal, but the other things they did and do to those poor women can be reasonably justified to some degree Also what makes things far more disturbing is, that it is generally accepted when a woman has had her period Ie 9 years old then they are a woman. Fighters would be allowed to actually take away children and according to many have non-consensual intercourse (Ie rape) with such children and adults alike, ofcourse all in the name of Allah. I do not bring in my own opinions on these rules, these are well 'justified' by scholars. I am merely exposing such 'loopholes' and reasons why people have serious issues with such rulings, and as Ibh Hussain said prevously, people leave the religion from such things.
  5. Welcome to promoting rape Scholars seem to try justify the use of female slaves for sex, whether consensual or not, it is abhorrent to hold such views. If Muslim women were taken and others did this to them I'm not sure people would be so quick to say, 'Well they are just a slave so you can do whatever you want'. And some wonder where did ISIS get their justifications from? And people wonder why those who use a rational mind and logic reject such a faith.
  6. Salam, I am a big fan of Ayatollah Yousef Saanei because he is the Marja so far I have found that hold very logical, modern and I can resonate with. I want to know are there any books in English and if not in Arabic that I can read? I want to learn more about his fiqh, rules, anything essentially. I want to learn more about this man and his beliefs. If anyone can help that would be much appreciated! Thanks, hayder
  7. I would like to mention, to prevent this issue it starts far earlier than in the moment. I remember being 15, 16 and telling my parents I 'loved' someone (yes I know 15 y/o thinking) and as my parents were very close to me they did not judge straight away and say, NO!. They asked me about them, what it is that I like about them and what the future would look like with such a person. They didnt tell me its wrong, they showed me a different perspective to understand and draw my own conclusion as to why it was wrong. I tell you, had they not been so open with me and supportive, I would have definitely rebelled. It is thanks to that open minded thinking that helped me understand.
  8. If it helps, look up the 'Semen retention' community (a derivative of noFap movement) where Men even with girlfriends do not have any release and retain it will help you see Celibacy in a completely different light and as a very motivating thing until you can get married. it was truly life changing for me. As a word of advice, you are in it for the release but the woman is usually in it for a long-term relationship. The moment you put your 'fire' out you will realise you are now committed to something that will cause you alot of problems and prevent any opportunity of marrying a muslima. this is just my 2 cents, best of luck Brother.
  9. You know what though I think this would be an amazing idea for students, I have been renting with people for 5 years because I cannot afford to yet live alone until I finish my studies, and I have grown extremely tired of others lack of hygiene, cleanliness etc. common house issues. As I spend all my time in my bedroom anyways having a small 'home' like this would be an amazing thing to have and surely shouldnt be as expensive as a 1 bedroom flat.
  10. This just sounds like utter nonsense just oh wow (not to you OP but to the fact someone even sat there to think up of such stuff)
  11. Take the recommendations of others but honestly, just you do you with good intentions and Allah's got your back. You will be fine just don’t get hung up on the issue too much ain't nothing anyone can do to you.
  12. Apologies then for my ignorance, to me it sounded a little distasteful and I would hope you could understand my point as I was taking it as a literal meaning. I wasn't aware it was stated as such. (still bothers me but thats another issue) I agree with you however about dishing out the mutah formula everytime a thought of a woman crosses to mind.
  13. Forgive me if I sound rude as it is not my intention, but I don't understand how one can draw a conclusion and say that both nikah and mutah are marriages and not 'relationships' but then when it comes to responsibility the man can simply ignore his in the latter? I also think it is distasteful to call mutah 'a woman who agrees to be rented for use' as that's most definitely not the nature of it (quoted as in previous post). If I partake in Mutah I don't ask a woman can I please rent you for a night? As they are not objects, instead you are establishing an intimate relationship with such person, both attracted both want to be close perhaps nikah not a viable option who knows, but to think of it purely as a business transaction where you 'rent' them I believe is wrong. It can only make sense to me that if both are the same thing I.e. marriage, only difference is one ends after a finite time the other indefinite then the responsibilities are the same in both.
  14. Cherish every moment with him so inevitebly when he moves on you regret nothing. That is the key to all, anyone and any moment in life try be as present and cerish it as much as you can because we never know when it can be taken away. Think of the positive rather than the negative inshallah he will have several more years to live.
  15. Yes I agree with the two of you should be disclosed asap. I am glad to have opened and read this discussion as habib said it has helped me realise the Mutah is a marriage more than a 'relationship' how it's percieved. This is a very interesting way of seeing it and both would be disclosed on the CV either way so neither is hidden on the next 'job' (in this case marriage just adding to analogy)
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