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Cyrax

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  1. Did you check the sources بارك الله فيك? If you would like I can send you the article by private message so that doesn't break forum rules. But I will say بارك الله فيك, for a person who is encouraging people to read more, I'm surprised you didn't know that Omar (and Abu Bakr) were at every single Ghazwa, and were with the Messenger صلى الله عليه وسلم. Did you know about the role Abu Bakr played pre-Badr? I would recommend أحسن الله إليك that you sit down with Sirat ibn Hisham and give it a read without any preconceived notions. Read it as neither a Shi'i or a Sunni and see what k
  2. Why would they? They don't believe that Imam Ali عليه السلام should've been the Khalifa after رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم. However, it is used as evidence that Imam Ali عليه السلام is at least the best judge of the Sahaba. It is also used as evidence that Abu Bakr was the most merciful of the Ummah, the most stern is Omar, Othman has the most Hayaa', Ubay is the best Qur'an reciter, etc. It shows that different Sahaba have different merits. I don't have a "belief" about that, I've never thought about it before you asked. In fact, I'm not sure how I can do research on this to show
  3. The references are found in the article I copy and pasted that from بارك الله فيك. As per the rules of the forum I didn't to link to the site as it is ant-Shia site, but I wanted to show that quick Google search would produce the results you would want.
  4. They agree that it is explicit in choosing Ali عليه السلام as a successor, but not in regards to what that actually means as I mentioned: Strange, but this is a very famous Sunni belief: https://sunnah.com/urn/1251540 The Messenger of Allah said: The most merciful of my Ummah towards my Ummah is Abu Bakr; the one who adheres most sternly to the religion of Allah is 'Umar; the most sincere of them in shyness and modesty is 'Uthman; the best judge is 'Ali bin Abu Talib; the best in reciting the Book of Allah is Ubayy bin Ka'b; the most knowledgeable of what is lawful
  5. What were you quoting بارك الله فيك, it looks like you quoted yourself by accident
  6. Hadeeth Thaqalayn is not explicit either since the Sunni version mentions to take care of Ahl al-Bayt, and not to follow them exclusively. Even if it did, the hadeeth wouldn't imply following ONLY Ali عليه السلام, and then ONLY Hassan عليه السلام and so on. I'd argue that even the Shi'i version of the hadeeth isn't explicit to proves Imamism. I find it interesting that you so quickly moved on from Hadeeth Ghadeer. None of these ahadeeth, or hadeeth al-Kisaa, or Hadeeth Harun to Moosa are in any way explicit since Shi'as disagree one what these ahadeeth actually mean. I'm not su
  7. السلام عليكم, I did a quick Google search too and found the following: He didn't quote that it was Omar that responded to Abu Sufyan after the defeat at Uhud at the order of رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم. والله تعالى أعلى وأعلم، وصلى الله وسلم علي نبينا محمد وآله
  8. Sunnis, 12ers, Ismailis, and Zaydis have different interpretations of what this hadeeth means; heck even you yourself said: So therefore, this hadeeth is not explicit in supporting Zaydi aqeedah, or any aqeedah for that matter. Which I didn't, بارك الله فيكم. You can believe anything you want about who has more merit in being a political leader, but that doesn't have any bearing on who is greater in the eyes of Allah. Abu Bakr can beat the best Sahabi or the worst Sahabi, it doesn't really have any bearing on who is a better leader. I'd give some examples, but I don't
  9. So its not an Ijmaa of any one except Zaydi scholars. Therefore, unless there is reason to believe those Zaydi scholars are more knowledgeable than the rest of the Ummah, or an explicit evidence from the Qur'an that we should follow them, then there would be no reason to give their Ijmaa any more weight then say, the Ijmaa of the Hanafis or the 12ers. Which Mutawatir ahadeeth do you think support the Zaydi aqeedah? I would think you would know that the issue of who should've succeeded رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم isn't an issue of aqeedah for Ahl as-Sunnah considering you do s
  10. How can it be Ijmaa' of Ahl al-Bayt if most Ahl al-Bayt scholars are not Shi'i, let alone Zaydi? Of course... Of course he could have been, but I don't agree with the highlighted part. Some of the Sahaba stated the Zayd ibn al-Haaritha رضي الله عنه (I think its ok to make Du'a for him, excuse me mods if this is not allowed) would've been the Khalifa after رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم, so there are definitely a lot of possibilities on who could've have succeeded. Heck, even Abu Bakr himself stated he wasn't the most qualified. أحسن الله إليك أخي, but I don't know why y
  11. السلام عليكم إخوان Firstly, the following Sunni scholars weakened the hadeeth: 1) Al-Bukhari, 2) Al Shawkani, 3) al-Daraqutni, 4) ibn Ma'een (who is known as being lenient in grading hadeeth), 5) al-Tirmidhi (also lenient) , 6) al Uqayli, 7) ibn al-Arabi, 8) ibn Taymiyyah and 9) al-Dhahabi and 10) Al-Albani. Some of them graded it as being fabricated, والله أعلم. I am not sure of any reputable Sunni scholar strengthened this hadeeth except al-Hakim, but his Mustadrak is considered to actually have around 30% weak ahadeeth, and even ahadeeth found in Bukhari and Muslim despite it su
  12. السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته أحسن الله إليكم يا إخوان It seems to me, from reading this thread, that we can reasonably define the position of the three "schools" as follows: All three Muslim "schools", Sunni, Zaydi and 12er, believe in guidance being delivered to us through the from of oral transmissions, books and the opinion of our most learned people; it is just we disagree on the a) sources of guidance, with the Sunnis claiming their sources are the most authentic because they are widespread and corroborated, the Zaydis claiming theirs are because it only comes from Ahl a
  13. السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته, While he حفظه الله may have lived in Iraq all his life, I've seen Shi'a speakers who are born Arabs who are poor at Fusha. Remember, we are talking about a Marji'3 of the highest level, not someone being able to speak colloquial Arabic. However, as much as it is inconceivable that he is not a master in Arabic in your eyes, it is inconceivable to me that he has never been recorded because of security reasons, avoiding fame or being a politician. I think you would agree with me that him, not being proficient in Arabic at a level that someone like him
  14. السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته, بارك الله فيك وأحسن الله إليك. I don't see any reason to believe that there is "no way" he does not speak Arabic proficiently despite his studies. I don't mean to be disrespectful, but take other Ayatollahs who have spent their entire lives studying Arabic; I don't see any of them proficiently speaking Arabic. Reality is, we don't have any record of him speaking Arabic, so we cannot know how well he can or he can't. Therefore, since one of the most famous people on earth (think about that) doesn't have ONE SINGLE RECORDING of his voice available an
  15. I only sincerely have two issues with Zaydism: 1) That I find that there are a lot of Zaydis, historically and in our modern times, who hold the same takfeeri views that the 12ers have. 2) I am not sure of the Zaydi madhhab's sources; meaning, who are the "Ahl al-Bayt" that the Zaydi scholars take from and how much can I rely on the Zaydi scholars to accurately report their madhhab. Since I've never studied Zaydism on that level, I can't really say one way or the other whether I think its a legitimate madhhab to follow or not. I'd have to check out some of your other entries si
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