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  1. Brother this is an old discussion and I've heard all the tired arguments and mental gymnastics. The conclusion remains the same. As I said to the other fellow, if you want to take Allahyari and Yasser al Habib as your leaders and guides and run around cursing and abusing the khulafa and the wives of the Prophet ((صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم)) then go ahead and do so. Those of us who follow the manhaj of the Ahlulbayt (عليه السلام) are free from such behaviour.
  2. If your evidence are 'the two' and 'fulan' then you are only confirming what I already have been saying throughout the thread. This Safawi/ghaali tendency of cursing the wives of the Prophet ((صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم)) and the caliphs (and abusing them) that seems to have become popular among some ignorant crowds today does not come from our teachings.
  3. Well either its there or it isn't. The claim was quite clear, we don't have narrations (authentic) where the Aimmah are cursing the khulafa. Therefore there shouldn't be anything to see or not see, the evidence should be equally clear. If you don't have it then we're back to square one.
  4. Ok akhi, you follow whatever you believe is correct. Feel free to make Allahyari your guide. Continue going around insulting the khulafa. Don't come crying to us if you have problems, we already told you this has nothing to do with tashayyu' but you don't want to listen. As salamu alaikum
  5. The statements of Sayyid al Sistani and Sayyid Khamenei have already been posted in this thread. Proof that Hizbullah and the IRGC fought Daesh, while Allahyari and Yassir al Habib hid in the West? Choose any media outlet of your choice, nobody has even attempted to deny this. It's a simple fact. You can speak for yourself. The Shia position on the companions is discussed here https://www.shiachat.com/forum/topic/235083875-we-shias-love-12000-sahaba-ridhwanullah-alayhim/
  6. Wa alaikum as salam wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh The legend returns. Welcome back
  7. Wa alaikum as salam If you are interested enough to read about the subject then there are two academic works by Robert Gleave (Scripturalist Islam and Inevitable Doubt) that cover the topic at a level which probably hasn't been covered by anyone else in the English language. In practical terms, the Akhbari school hardly exists anymore. Some people have borrowed the Akhbari label, but have very little to do with the original Akhbariyya and their methodology. The Usooli methodology is therefore essentially a default/standard today.
  8. Imam Ridha (as): O Ibn Abi Mahmood! Our enemies have faked three types of traditions regarding our nobilities which are of the following types: 1- boasting 2- belittling and 3- the wickedness of our enemies and swearing at them. When the people hear their traditions boastings about us, they will denounce us and say that the Shiites believe in the divinity of their Divine Leaders. When they hear their traditions belittling us, they will believe them. They will swear at us - the Members of the Holy Household - when they hear the traditions about the wickedness of our enemies and their being sweared at, while the Honorable the Exalted God has said, ‘Revile not ye those whom they callupon besides God, lest they out of spite revile God in their ignorance….’”O Ibn Abi Mahmood! Follow our way when the people deviate to the right or left. We will be with whoever follows us. We will separate from whoever separates himself from us. The least thing that might lead one to abandon faith is to say that a pebble is an atom, believe it and stay away from those who oppose him. O Ibn Abi Mahmood! Safeguard what I have told you since I have given you what is best for you in this world and the Hereafter.” Uyun Akhbar ar-Ridha Vol 1, Ch 28 https://thaqalayn.net/hadith/11/2/28/58
  9. Because the aimmah (عليه السلام) didn't do this and because the senior fuqaha of our time have confirmed it's prohibition.
  10. This unhealthy obsession of absolutely wanting to curse the caliphs is neither logical nor does it have any religious basis. For those who are absolutely insisting on persisting with this innovation, ask yourselves why the aimmah (عليه السلام) didn't behave in this manner and why you then still insist on holding onto something that was introduced by the ghulaat and promoted by the Safavids for their own interests. As @root pointed out, it's telling that the same ignorant factions who persist with this foolish behaviour were absolutely nowhere to be seen when the resting places of the ahlulbayt (عليه السلام) were being targeted by Das and their likes. For all their bravado, when it comes to actions they simply vanish whereas the ones they abuse and curse lay down their lives and their children's lives in the way of Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى). If it still isn't obvious after this as to which path is the one of the aimmah (عليه السلام) then one is perhaps too blind to ever recognize it.
  11. The narrations didn't counter the claim though. Where exactly do you see the khulafa being cursed?
  12. @Sabrejetyou have shared nothing new brother. As I said, there is no authentic narration where the Ahlulbayt (عليه السلام) are cursing the khulafa. Nothing you posted counters this fact.
  13. If you believe in the wilayah of Imam Ali (عليه السلام) then yes, otherwise no.
  14. The religion is not as complicated as people try to make it out to be. Our core references are the Quran and the Ahlulbayt. This is where we take our teachings from. Those people who have been told that cursing the caliphs is a part of the religion need to go back and study the texts. The Ahlulbayt (عليه السلام) did no such thing.
  15. There are no authentic narrations where the aimmah (عليه السلام) have cursed the first three caliphs.
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