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  1. you are a woman right? do you believe ali ra the great warrior and husband would let his beloved wife who shia alleged was abused, beaten up until her rib was broken, got miscarriaged, house burnt to go to abu bakr about a piece of land? Do you know ali ra at all or how chivalrious an arab is towards his wife? This is ali ra the great warrior and husband remember? as for shia muharram, why should we be frustrated looking at shia mud bathing, crawling, slapping, cutting themselves up etc? You are the one who should be frustrated not us
  2. no answer? OK, here's my reply. Qur'an mainly talked about prophets who were selected by Allah, while non-prophets may or may not be selected by Him. There is no proof at all that it is haram to choose your own leader. Where is dalil qat'i there were other infallibles for several hundred years between Isa as & Rasulullah saaw? You probably will come up with some random names, but who was the hujja just before the last nubuwa? Or look at your condition, who has been guiding you for the last 1000 years? Non infallible people!! No need to come up with philosophy sun behind the cloud thing. Shia version of imamah has no basis from Qur'an and it is proven as false, because shia themselves can't practise what they preach for the last 1000 years. You have been following fallible shia leaders & scholars, in other words, fake guides if you are consistent with your own belief!! Understand amigo? Please answer, don't shia belief imam is also a political leader?
  3. no need to derail the discussion. Do you belief umm kulthum ra & ruqayya ra were Rasulullah saaw daughters or you "love" ahlulbayt so much that you deny them due to your hate for uthman ra?
  4. no sunni belief fatima ra was not special, this is more of a question for shias who try to deny 2 of Rasulullah saaw daughters were not his. Are you one of them?
  5. i wasn't even referring to you, but shia in general. It was a comment for ahlussunah post. Maybe i should've quoted that
  6. no sane sunni will say sahih tirmidzi, sahih abu dawood etc. My point still stands, when shia don't like a particular hadith, it's always "not all ahadith in al kafi are authentic", but won't say which one which. Get it amigo?
  7. oh no, is this going to be one of those thread where shia say "not all in al kafi are authentic", but won't actually say if the hadith mentioned is authentic or not?
  8. well fatima ra went to abu bakr ra to ask for it which means she believe she has rights to it (which is true since she is ahlulbayt & fadak is to be used for them, poor people, travellers etc), but why ask abu bakr ra in the first place if it was an inheritance? What happen to other inheritors? If it was a gift, why wait until someone passed away? Not to mention shia said this was done after she was abused & her rib was broken etc. Your rib was alledegly broken, got miscarriaged, house burnt, husband right's taken away and you think only about a piece of land? See the holes whichever shia version of history you want to take? It just doesn't make sense. Aren't shia the people of sense & logic?
  9. I mentioned umm kulthum bint ali marriage to umar, because it's basically the same scenario. Some shia try to deny ali ra married off his daughter because shia believe umar ra was disbelievers, same goes with uthman case when it comes to marriage to rasulullah saaw daughters
  10. asnwer my question then i'll answer yours. Discussion is a two way street
  11. of course not, how can i believe abu bakr ra usurped it when ali ra and then hasan ra also followed what abu bakr ra did with fadak. Back to my question, can you stick which version of history you want to believe? Choose gift or inheritance and stick with it.
  12. Read the previous ones, with this it is a clear ayat about those who went to jihad, Allah informed them that shaitan will try to prevent them from fighting in the path of Allah. How does this ayat apply to shia mahdi who was never involved in any jihad and yet imam said he feared for his life. How do you reconcile that?
  13. it does matter, because if it was an inheritance then it is not all fatima's ra right. What happen with other inheritors? If it was a gift, why wait until someone passed away to say it was a gift? Get it? So again, make up your mind which version shia want to take and stick with it, otherwise one shia says this another says that all the time.
  14. the main problem in this shia version of history is that a great warrior & husband like ali ra let her alledgedly beaten up & injured beloved wife climbed up a pulpit and gave a sermon about a so called usurped piece of land when he did not even do the same thing about his so called usurped right. You shias know nothing about ali ra or arab/bani hashim chivalry.
  15. a gift is a gift, an inheritance is an inheritance. Can shia at least make up their mind which version they want to stick with it.
  16. isn't imam also a political leader? if not, i don't understand why shia are so angry most sahaba chosed abu bakr ra. No sahaba believed abu bakr ra as a chosen divine spiritual leader, so nothing is usurped from ali ra when shia believe he was divine spiritual leader.
  17. no, it's not me who think he was fearful. I only quote your authentic hadith where zurarah narrated from shia imam that mahdi will be in occultation due to fear for his life. You are an shia forum admin, i assume you would know better
  18. i don't get it why some shia are trying so hard to deny Ali ra married off his daughter to umar ra? Authentic shia reports confirm this marriage took place with "by force" excuse which is a desperate really. If shia believe Rasulullah saaw married so called disbelievers, why you can't accept umm kulthum bint ali ra marry so called disbeliever? Do you respect ali ra progeny more than Rasulullah saaw? Why do you reject your own authentic report?
  19. Fear is a human trait just like a human will be hungry, sleepy etc. There's nothing to be ashamed of. Someone who has fear, but still go out to face his enemy means he has great courage. On the other hand, authentic shia narration confirm that mahdi went to occultation due to fear for his life for more than 1000. Do you think it is courages act? If he was afraid for a day, a week that's understandable, but shia have had several mighty armies & kingdoms to protect him since then.
  20. isa as was born in karbala, so maryam went all the way to ancient iraq to give birth to isa as? Are you sure or you just repeat whatever you hear from your syaikh?
  21. should ask not just Fatimah ra, but why other inheritors didn't do that too? Why Fatimah ra gave sermon about a so called usurped land, but Ali ra did not do the same about so called usurped right? Ali ra let fatimah ra who shia belief was injured & beaten up instead of him doing all that on her behalf? It just doesn't make sense. I just can't picture Ali ra the great warrior and husband on the sideline.
  22. when shia have been brought up into thinking they are the victim of takfiri groups and then found out that the foundation of shia belief is making takfir of others, of course it will be very uncomfortable @submitter71 as for other shia who already know this, to admit shia great scholars conform to madhab of takfir is not good for their image and political standing
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