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peace seeker II

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  1. @Oneof I said that using bad language and insults are the work of the devil in reference to your way [EDIT] Again you don't even bring a single example or actual proof but only insults and provocations. I won't waste my time further than this with you. ______
  2. Salam alaikum, It could have a connection to your wanting to fast and the water pump and droplets are a sure symbol of life and wisdom. The imam will open that pump and give wisdom and knowledge to a much needed soil of human spirits. But I would urge you to take this dream seriously and do what the voice asked you to do until you feel you've done enough of it. Basically do dua for the imam for his protection against poison and duas for every other thing you can think of for him. You having this dream is a great privilege and should be classified as a vision from God. You must be a very pure person whom God loves very much. Masha Allah Don't forget to do what the voice told you to your utmost ability in the depths of your heart.
  3. Really @Darth, you hate lies? I do too! The only problem is that I believe that what we have been taught is lies in many aspects including geography. So, let us wait and see who is right about this and I am also waiting. And using foul language doesn't help anyone; least of all yourself. I suggest u contribute to this thread by giving ur evidence from science and quran, while avoiding baseless judgments without even backing them up. Who was it who said something along the lines of "say good or say nothing at all"? So stick to evidence that we can work with. Nobody here will be convinced just because you use rude words like excrement to describe my ideas.
  4. @Oneof Insulting people is unacceptable according to site rules and islam. Especially here it is cowardly and keep in mind that I did not insult you or even talk to you. The likes of you and Darth seem to get a satisfaction from being rude to people unprovoked. And if my opinion about the physical structure of earth offends you so much that you resort to personal insults then you should review your own understanding, as the anger is created by Satan. Satan teaches arrogance and make people blind. Like imam reza said "foul language is the weapon of the wicked" And notice the past two foul posts have zero evidence or relevant information. But you being a rude person probably means you won't understand what I'm saying now, as akhlaq or manners are directly linked to the ability to understand. But in the sunah of the prophet it is at least my duty to try and notify and warn you. Arrogant and rude people have a terrible end. Nice guys end up having a great reward. But if rude guys apologize and repent then God will forgive them, so there is always hope till you die, then there will be nothing you can do. Additionally when the insulted person makes dua against the insulter this life can be he'll too for the insulter.
  5. @Darth I have been doing nothing but prove this thread and most of my proofs have been ignored by you and others, especially the ones from quran. What concerns horizons the Internet has some images that seem to contradict the vast majority of straight horizons. Therefore those interested in the truth should contribute by getting their own evidence whenever they can instead of sitting back and only complaining / insulting like you. If something is brainless then it is that. Hateful and arrogant
  6. @Gaius I. Caesar funny enough if you look at the horizon of the first pictured u posted they look straight to me and only the last one looks curved. Maybe next time we fly or stand at a horizon we take pictures ourselves and bring them here. It is easy to make all kinds of effects these days with all kinds of apps
  7. Brother I must've flown literally hundreds of times and never remember seeing a curve. This picture is obviously with fish eye effect. I urge anybody to bring their own photo as pretty much all horizons on Google like search "horizon air plane" for instance and you'll see perfectly straight lines. Unless the weather, clouds or mountains change the shape.
  8. Yes brother Gaius seeing is believing And seeing for ourselves, as this above picture could be photo shopped. So the best way is to take photos from mountaintops or airplanes or distant horizons ourselves. If the whole space station and earth picture from the moon is a hoax then this might as well be a hoax as well.
  9. Wasila is literally a means to something, in this case it is to Allah. That's the definition of this term according to any Arab translation and it's not controversial. This means is ibada or a form of worship to me. Ibada is worship. In the quran Allah orders us to seek a wasilah (means) to Him, which constitutes an order. I am telling you what the text says brother and how I interpret it. Now you've met someone with an alternative view from yours to the meanings of those words.
  10. Akhi that's how I see it in the quran as well. Ibada too for me means to give priority or obedience to any other than Allah. By obeying others we worship them as obeying Allah is a waseela and waseela is ibada. That's my interpretation anyway.
  11. i am explaining to you how i see it and understand it. If i am disobedient for the sake of something or someone other than Allah, then i am setting up a partner. In the case of iblis it was his ego or arrogance that caused his disobedience. He set himself up as a partner to God by challenging God's will and understanding of things. To me that constitutes partnering others with Allah, as i chose others over Him. And may He forgive me for it.
  12. Salam Alaikum Shirq means partnering. Of course it is in reference to partnering with Allah. We are guilty of partnering others with Allah each time we do anything that is not 100% in line with the commandments. For instance when we watch a movie instead of praying on time, we are suddenly setting up a partner with Allah. When we hurt others while Allah tells us not to be wrong-doers (zalemeen) we also do something that competes with the pure rules of Allah. Hence i believe that we all commit shirq all the time, and it is impossible to have pure 100% tawheed (oneness in action and mentality towards Allah). Some might wonder why Allah talks so harshly about those who commit shirq if we are all mushriqs. Well, that is because there are different levels of shirq and zulm as well. We all commit zulm and shirq to a certain level, but there are some of us who will not be forgiven by Allah in the end. That is where taqwa or fear comes in. We may never be sure that our zulm or shirq or akhta (mistakes) will be forgiven. At the same time we may never be sure that we are not guilty of any of these. That is my opinion, and remember me as a slave of Allah who is afraid of his shirq not being forgiven by Allah. Each time i took anything or anyone else as a priority other than Allah. Oh God!
  13. "If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough" - Albert Einstein He was the same guy who said "if the formula isn't beautiful it can't be right" This takes us to another point, that when we debate it is good to keep it as simple as possible and easy for the reader. Sometimes less is more, and getting straight to the point is usually for the best of the conversation. For instance, i find people beating around the bush in debates by asking questions that will eventually lead them to an attempt at proving themselves right, instead of simply presenting their argument and evidence point-blank. I am sure many of you know what i mean. So, simplicity and ease are a sure sign of higher levels of debate or speech (as well as beauty). This counts of course for anything from body language to writing. At the same time the more words we use, the less value each word has. The chance of saying something wrong increases simultaneously with the quantity. Also keep in mind that humans don't have a very long concentration span, so most people will loose track of what is being said if it is too long and complicated. Our aim is to make it as easy and user-friendly as possible. This way we make way for easy and smooth debates that are fruitful for all sides.
  14. well technically we can use evidence like the following to find the truth. And the good thing is that this is stuff we can ourselves verify, to make sure it's not photoshopped or edited. Personally i've never seen but a flat horizon no matter how high up i was in an airplane for instance. seeing is believing. There is truth to this statement
  15. The railroad doesn't show flatness like the horizon picture above does (especially the one from miles above earth being a perfectly straight un curved horizon) . It simply shows perspective how something that is far away including the clouds appears to merge into the horizon. You will find all arguments and debates on each topic online. This is mainly the topic when discussing sunset and sunrise from flat earth perspective.
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