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TryHard

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  1. No money should not be a criteria regardless of how a person feels . On of the imam’s I believe imam sadiq (عليه السلام) has a saying that goes something like “he who fears getting married because of povert has thought badly of Allah.” The Quran clearly goes against the idea. regardless I do agree there are some situations where a person can’t get married we don’t need to keep going on this as I stated multiple times there are situations where a person can’t marry but the only thing is it should not be because of money. If you want to believe that than you are going against the Quran
  2. 1. I said multiple times some people can’t find spouses however I will repeat again for Allah knows how many times now people should still look and try to get married and Money should not be a factor in preventing this. 2.fasting “diminishes” it but it definitely does not get rid of it. There are a lot of Muslims who unfortunately masturbate even in Ramadan you can find posts about here on shiachat as well. Not to mention the fact others fast for this very reason and it only goes so far you do get used to it. Diminish means that it lowers it but it does not remove it what diminishes it mo
  3. You never explained how the way I was using it was incorrect and none of what you said shows that. So I was using it correctly. Money is in the hand so allah when it comes to marriage. So if a person wants to marry but fears poverty they should not. Same with abortions and having kids Allah says the same thing not to fear poverty and have children. The “talk” I was referring to was hers because I have argued with her about this topic before. So when I was calling her holier than though it was directed specifically at her as I’ve seen her on topics like this before. 2.
  4. I think what you said was immature but we can go back and forth on that. As for it being impractical I have seen it work out for people. The people on this forum do not represent all the Muslims and Shia in the world maybe because you spend so much time here you might believe that but I can assure you that is not the case. If your marja says what you claim prove it and bring a fatwa as I have. She definitely cant demand another house if he cant afford it.But as said before a house is not needed in the situation we are talking about I posted fatwas you saw them and chose to make
  5. Imam ali (عليه السلام) got married at 24 to al zahra (عليه السلام) who was about 9 or 8. Some imam’s(عليه السلام) got married earlier in their teens and others later. The one thing they have in common is telling us to get married early at a young age when we are in our youth basically the earlier the better. also I’m not saying everyone should get married as soon as hormones kick in what I am saying is that finances should not be a real factor according to the Quran if you still believe they should then your going against the Quran and God help you at that point.
  6. Also I hope you mean Jihad al Nafs. That doesn't mean don't get married in fact getting married improves Jihad al Nafs cause its half your deen.
  7. Im not sure exactly how to respond. Anyways I gave you the fatwas I know you are not big on following scholar cause you might think you know everything. I could also respond sarcastically and in an immature way as you have but I don't feel that would bring any benefit. Ill say no one wants their family to be poor and their wife to have nothing but to say people cant get married for financial reasons and that their wife can automatically divorce them when financial trouble comes does not build healthy societies. Like it or not Islam encourages marriage and the ahlul bayt (عليه السلام)
  8. I'm posting fatwas cause I said I would here are fatwas on the issues discussed here according to Imam khamenei (ha) and Sayed Sistani (ha). The only time a marja seems to allow refusal of intercourse is in sayed sistanis (ha) case and he only allows it if the husband does not provide nafaqah deliberately despite being able to do so. I'll also note none of them say you must be financially independent to get married and in Sistani's (ha) case he even says its mustahab despite the financial difficulties. Questions are on the bottom answers are on the top answers are in red for Imam Khamenei (ha)
  9. @Anonymous-Male if the point your trying to make is that some people have to avoid sin when they aren’t married sure I agree. In general though people should look for a spouse. Most people are not locked in a dungeon and are trapped where they can’t get married. Therefore this patience you talk of should not be encouraged as a long term solution for everyone.
  10. Again suppressing his desires should not be a long term solution. If he can’t find a spouse despite looking that’s something else my point is he should look while not committing sins if that’s what you mean than fine.
  11. If you can’t get married as in you can’t find a spouse despite the fact that you looked yes do not sin however what I’m against is that being put forward as a long term solution when it is not.
  12. Allah provides sustenance through marriage have you read the Quran “Marry those among you who are single, or the virtuous ones among yourselves, male or female: if they are in poverty, Allah will give them means out of His grace: for Allah encompasseth all, and he knoweth all things.” 24:32 also didn’t you mention something about imam ali (عليه السلام) not having a house and still getting married? as for the parents again you shouldn’t listen to your parents. your parents can’t force you to disobey allah if they do your allowed to disobey them. Like the sons of many of
  13. @habib e najjaar you see what you mentioned about mahr didn't change a thing as you see I put in the question and it still didn't change their answer. I sent questions to more offices but their websites take a while Ill probably post more in a few weeks. But in conclusion brother natsu and others can get married and what you and others say about houses and finances, nafaqah etc.. is, as you can see clearly against Islam. Inshallah you correct these wrong views you have and stop preventing others from getting married with your false understanding.
  14. Anyways despite the fact I know you are wrong I am going to post more istiftat when I get them. Even though I know why the issue of mahr is different from maintenance I still sent questions on it in the hope that you will see your views on this issue are wrong.
  15. no he must get married if he fears sin especially since according to you Imam Ali (عليه السلام) didnt have a house and still went and got married. So homeless people should follow the example of Imam Ali (عليه السلام). He can have a mutah or get married permanent. Parents cannot just let you not get married the quran says if your parents tell you to sin you must refuse them. I disagree actually. people should not sin but they need to try to get married even if they are homeless or their parents say no. Learn to be strong and stand up for yourself. Those people ar
  16. I agree that we should not sin. But this idea that we should have self control and meditate instead of getting married temporary or permanent is wrong. We should not sin and seek marriage if not permanent than temporary regardless of financial difficulties.
  17. she shouldn't have an expensive mahr that he cannot afford if Fatima al zahra (عليه السلام) didnt do that why should people do it now. Yes Mahr is different its one time and it should not be expensive in fact its makruh for it to be expensive so yes the same does not apply with maintenance. Are you suggesting the marja is contradicting themselves and doesn't know their own fatwa? if its not clear to you ask yourself. I have a feeling even if I did what you said and it went against you you still wouldn't be satisfied. The reason it does not apply to maintenance is because the contract
  18. Because our religion teaches us otherwise and what others like yourself are spreading is wrong. Not only according to the scholar you have in your profile picture but also the one I have read his book the compassionate family where he goes against all the things you are saying now. ya thats not what I have seen. Go to the communities I have seen or better yet just search on youtube Lebanese weddings and see what you get its quite extravagant most are non muslim but I have been to Muslim ones too personally. very gender biased way of looking at things and not based on Islam at
  19. The shield was cheap he didnt get a lot of money for it. Why didnt he give 1 dirham instead I am not sure but I do know the dowry definitely was not expensive and in comparison to what I see today. He owned a camel too btw and he did not sell that. The dowry was minimal are you saying it was extravagant and expensive? The moral of the story and the reason people tell is it was minimal and not extravagant like we see today. No I dont know the minimum legal mahr but its not necessary to follow in either case as no marja has a minimum mahr as far as I know.
  20. Ya for the dowry its different. If you didn't pay her dowry then yes she can refuse unless she has intercourse with you regardless or you give her the dowry in full. but for Nafaqah which is providing basic needs for the wife that is different. Here is the fatwa.
  21. Look at the fatwa I posted according to Shaykh Makarem (ha) that is not true and he can get married. Actaully according to Islam that is not true he can still get married again according to you Imam Ali (عليه السلام) did not have a house and the prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) still gave him his daughter. thats not true its that mentality that is messing up the world and getting youth to sin. That mentality is contrary to the teachings of pious scholars and the ahlulbayt (عليه السلام) and even the stuff you have posted shows that. When the Imam (عليه السلام) comes this proble
  22. selling his shield was minimimal that was the point. A few dirhams was not expensive mahr at all and actaully was minimal. Anyways I never said one shouldn't pay a mahr just not an expensive one. You know ayatullah khamenei (ha) and shaykh Misbah yazdi marry people in weddings on their free time and reject doing marriages that have expensive Mahrs.
  23. a house was not a need and he did not cancel the marriage as a result of not having one. Thanks for confirming he was gifted the house after his marriage if anything this shows allah provides for someone after they get married. Again this does not show bare minimum duty is providing a house first bring a source that the prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) demanded Imam Ali (عليه السلام) get a house for his daughter and not simply asked if he had a house to provide. Regardless he still allowed them to get married and according to Shaykh Makerem (ha) he still had his conjugal rights either way.
  24. basic house effects with no house? Key word though is whatever mahr he could. but inshallah you saw the fatwa I posted showing the wife still has to give intercourse even if nafaqah is not provided in other words they were not connected like you were saying and our brother @Natsu can and should get married to a good believing spouse.
  25. bring a source for that I don't believe that is true actually. Also I heard he was given the house and he did not buy it though I have not confirmed that. Regardless that does not prove the point your trying to make at all in fact if what your saying is true it contradicts what your saying because the prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) was providing even after their marriage which shows that parents can actually provide for their kids or help them after they get married and that it was what the prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) did with al Zahra (عليه السلام) even though she was already ma
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