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  1. Salam Actually, it is more like a way of showing my feelings ... doesn't mean much other than that when I say it...of course, if you ask me, as you did now , I would find some philosophy for it... but more than anything...I just want him to pay attention to me...nothing more.
  2. Salam Around 2 months ago, an Iraqi figure said that Saudi had a plan to make protests in Iraq, Lebanon and another country I don't remember...and he was so sure that he said people can write down his words and see if this happens after one month or no. And it happened and it did happen exactly as he predicted...he had said that these protests would start by some social media activities first and then some clashes in the streets. Just when Iraq was struggling with protests, Lebanon also had some, but no one paid attention since it wasn't serious then. Now after a month these protests have gained momentum ...and who knows...maybe foreign players are now having more time since Iraq is a bit settled? or at least the plan is at the motion there and doesn't need further focus. The most interesting fact is, that the prime minister of Lebanon himself agrees with protesters ... and I wonder who else is responsible in a country for current affairs other than the Prime minister and his government ... so strange ( in a way, he reminds me of Ruhani, Iranian President)
  3. what if we say, some people are in the hell or the heaven while they are not aware of it? Like someone who is hurting himself with a knife while his body is under some sort of anesthesia? so, what happens in the day of Judgment is not entering it, but realizing where we are. Look at this: Chapter 50, verse 22 You were certainly ignorant of this, and We have removed from you your veil, so your sight, this Day, is sharp. It comes right after describing the day of Judgment and how people are lead here and there. In this context, it says "you were ignorant before and now you can see, because you have no veil over your eyes" which means all these things were present before...not only The Hell or Paradise, but all other things, only ignorance and veils over eyes prevent people from realizing it. and again, please look at this verse: chapter 3, verses 169 - 170: And never think of those who have been killed in the cause of Allah as dead. Rather, they are alive with their Lord, receiving provision,Rejoicing in what Allah has bestowed upon them of His bounty, and they receive good tidings about those after them who have not yet joined them - that there will be no fear concerning them, nor will they grieve. So, they are with Allah... if being with Allah and enjoying His blessings is not the Heaven, then what is ? I agree that generally our holy scriptures, whether the Holy Qur'an or Hadiths, describe a world after this one and talk about the day of Judgment and Hell and Paradise as things which come after this world and they are not interacted with right now...but I guess this apparent understanding, while practically beneficial for most of us and yet true in some sense, can be changed into a deeper version? OK, I have said all I had to say. I hope my answers haven't bothered you brother.
  4. Salam As I said, this can be claimed, but this is against the apparent meaning of the verse itself, since it says they enter it after death. And, it seems that those previous groups of people were there before this one. But nowhere in the Qur'an it is mentioned that people enter the hell or the heaven by any order in the day of the Judgment how do we know it? and why should we make two different Hells or heavens? Yes, according to some hadiths, they are exposed to the hell in their graves...but that is some kind of hell itself, no? Anyway, as I said, it MIGHT be claimed that SOME levels of The Hell or The heaven is occupied now. We know those who have been killed in the battlefields etc are being blessed عند الله...so?
  5. Salam I was answering another post here, when I realized I can make this part of the answer an independent topic by itself. Sorry brother if I made my answer short there. ^_____^ Ok, first let's make it clear what I mean by "this world". Definitely this physical world is not meant, because it is neither good nor bad, or good in a general way of speaking. ( since everything that God has created is good). So, "this world" here refers to "This low/near world" which is repeatedly we see in the Qur'an. "Dunya" can be translated as "low or degraded or worthless" OR "Near". On the opposite, "Sama" or سماء can be translated as "sky or heaven" OR "high/above". So when we see the Qur'an uses these two as opposites, so we can guess which meaning is meant by it. Chapter 7, verse 40: إِنَّ الَّذينَ كَذَّبُوا بِآياتِنا وَ اسْتَكْبَرُوا عَنْها لا تُفَتَّحُ‏ لَهُمْ أَبْوابُ السَّماءِ وَ لا يَدْخُلُونَ الْجَنَّةَ حَتَّى يَلِجَ الْجَمَلُ في‏ سَمِّ الْخِياطِ وَ كَذلِكَ نَجْزِي الْمُجْرِمين‏ Indeed, those who deny Our verses and are arrogant toward them - the gates of Heaven will not be opened for them, nor will they enter Paradise until a camel enters into the eye of a needle. And thus do We recompense the criminals. Here we see that some people can't enter the skies and as a result, they can't enter Paradise. So, we understand entering the skies and Paradise is the same... so, what is the opposite of Sky or Heaven as we mentioned above? Or let's say, someone who can't ascend and enter the skies remains where? ^_____^ Now let's add another verse and see how much we can progress with our journey. Chapter 95, verses 4-6: لَقَدْ خَلَقْنَا الْإِنْسانَ في‏ أَحْسَنِ تَقْويمٍ ثُمَّ رَدَدْناهُ أَسْفَلَ سافِلينَ إِلاَّ الَّذينَ آمَنُوا وَ عَمِلُوا الصَّالِحاتِ فَلَهُمْ أَجْرٌ غَيْرُ مَمْنُونٍ We have certainly created man in the best of stature; Then We return him to the lowest of the low, Except for those who believe and do righteous deeds, for they will have a reward uninterrupted. So, only righteous believers are not in the lowest of the low, ha? And if we put it alongside the previous verse, we understand why. Because they have ascended to the heavens and gates of skies are opened for them. But others, they are stuck here since those gates are closed for them. And please pay attention that humans are sent to the lowest of the low right after being created. So, let's ask, where are we sent right after creation? ^_____^ hmmm...I guess this much is enough to make my point...let me know if there is anything wrong with this understanding. Thanks in advance.
  6. Finally, somewhere people talk about the religion as if it matters.
  7. Salam. According to some Quranic verses, the answer MIGHT be yes. Take a look: chapter 102, verses 5-7 كَلاَّ لَوْ تَعْلَمُونَ عِلْمَ الْيَقينِ لَتَرَوُنَّ الْجَحيمَ ثُمَّ لَتَرَوُنَّها عَيْنَ الْيَقينِ It says that with some certain level of faith, we can see the hell right now, which means it is here. of course, you may say that the hell is here, but empty. But if you add some other verses about people being punished in the hell and then notice that the hell these verses are talking about is not at the day of Judgment, you can guess that some levels of the hell are already occupied by hell dwellers. chapter 7, verses 37 and 38 فَمَنْ أَظْلَمُ مِمَّنِ افْتَرى‏ عَلَى اللَّهِ كَذِباً أَوْ كَذَّبَ بِآياتِهِ أُولئِكَ يَنالُهُمْ نَصيبُهُمْ مِنَ الْكِتابِ حَتَّى إِذا جاءَتْهُمْ رُسُلُنا يَتَوَفَّوْنَهُمْ قالُوا أَيْنَ ما كُنْتُمْ تَدْعُونَ مِنْ دُونِ اللَّهِ قالُوا ضَلُّوا عَنَّا وَ شَهِدُوا عَلى‏ أَنْفُسِهِمْ أَنَّهُمْ كانُوا كافِرين‏ قالَ ادْخُلُوا في‏ أُمَمٍ قَدْ خَلَتْ مِنْ قَبْلِكُمْ مِنَ الْجِنِّ وَ الْإِنْسِ فِي النَّارِ كُلَّما دَخَلَتْ أُمَّةٌ لَعَنَتْ أُخْتَها حَتَّى إِذَا ادَّارَكُوا فيها جَميعاً قالَتْ أُخْراهُمْ لِأُولاهُمْ رَبَّنا هؤُلاءِ أَضَلُّونا فَآتِهِمْ عَذاباً ضِعْفاً مِنَ النَّارِ قالَ لِكُلٍّ ضِعْفٌ وَ لكِنْ لا تَعْلَمُون‏ so, when these infidels die, they go to hell and join previous people who has entered it and talk with and curse each others. Of course, you can say these two verses might be about the day of judgment, but it is not what is apparent from them by the first look, since it says after they die they enter it. chapter 40, verse 46: النَّارُ يُعْرَضُونَ عَلَيْها غُدُوًّا وَ عَشِيًّا وَ يَوْمَ تَقُومُ السَّاعَةُ أَدْخِلُوا آلَ فِرْعَوْنَ‏ أَشَدَّ الْعَذاب‏ it says that the followers of Pharaoh are exposed to the fire every morning and evening and in the day of judgment they enter it. We know day and night are for this world, so they are exposed to the fire of the hell in this world. There are some other verses which you can add...but at the end of the day, the max you can say is that some levels of the hell are already here and people are there.
  8. Salam It seems the majority of verses are as you say, but in some special cases, it can't be accepted. There are at least two cases, in which it is hard to accept that verses are in original order. Of course there are some hadiths that indicate what you said, but the thing is, in these matters hadiths are not trusted easily ( since these are not Sharia rules ) Let's not forget that Imam Hosein's martyrdom and many other incidents also happened...so not whatever happens is what Allah approves. It does not negate but does not help proving it is what Allah wanted to be. If we know for sure that Prophet did that, since he was infallible his product would be perfect...but in other cases, there is always a chance of mistake. Allah has control over everything, but it doesn't mean everything that happens is perfect. Plus, we never know what Allah truly wants. Do we? Yes, but didn't promise to keep the order of its verses also safe, or has He promised that too? We know many verses of Quran are understood and then used completely wrong by many muslims, such as IS members...which points out the meaning of verses and their true intentions are not as safe as we want them to be ^____^ ...And we know the arrangement of chapters is not from Allah ( or at least we are not sure). So, why should we believe that the arrangement of verses withing chapters are from Allah? only verses are from Allah and the promise mentioned is more likely about them. And please bring the promise you mentioned...it might not be what you think it is.
  9. i didn't say all that happens to me needs logical reasons...some emotions are absurd as their possessors... but I'm still in awe ^____^
  10. Salam who said it does? ^____^ OK...let's have an example: A child is playing in a yard. A stranger is passing and sees that the child is playing with a knife! So he/she comes and instructs the child to not play with the knife...the child says: "Why does it matter for you that I play with knife or not?" Now back to our own topic: it doesn't matter for God that you believe in Him or not...it matters for you! You will never be able to climb a mountain if you don't believe it exists...the same goes for His existence... if you deny His existence, the very system of your understanding will encounter some problems...you won't be able to accept many other facts...you will miss a great deal of this world...and when the day of truth comes ( as we call it day of judgment), you see that you have missed a lot of it... and it might be proved too late to make any difference... As for why our beliefs affect our souls and thereby change our fate, you should start another topic ^_____^
  11. @Ya_isa (as) Don't you find it strange? Some asks for Shia beliefs in this regard, and the other asks for Authentic hadiths from Imamas, and when given, a sunni scholar's fatwaa becomes important? I am totally in awe ^____^
  12. Salam Honestly, the first thing came to my mind after seeing your topic was: "WHAT? we love who? Now, do we?" You might say the very same thing for Sunnis! But the main issue here is not that Shia or Sunnis love or respect Christians, it is that third world countries see westerners as their betters and feel humble towards their masters! Of course many in my beloved(!) country Iran love Americans and British, just for the fact that they have blue eyes and blond hairs and nothing beyond! So, when they see a convert, if it is a Chinese or Thai, then it is "OK...he is a convert...good for him..." but if it is an American "OH! My God! You are a convert? what? how? when? tell us your story!" as if westerners are much more important...as if an Asian soul gets guided it won't matter but if an American one even shows some interests, then it is unbelievable!
  13. Thank you for your reply. I guess this much of reasoning is enough and now this topic can be counted as complete. Thanks for your time and effort. May Allah bless you.
  14. Salam what you are saying dear brother, is completely against Islamic rules...since we have lots of punishments and other rules, which are meaningless until you have a government. You either have to find some explanations for these rules, or accept that Islam has to show some social faces and has its own government.
  15. @S. Shuja Salam again. thanks for you reply. It explains a lot. Yet again, if we go in a non-confession way, how are we sure that a latter religion is for sure better than an earlier one? Is it a logical rule or what generally is true? we know something general might not be true is some cases after all.. How do we know Islam is a world-wide religion and not a local one? Maybe Islam were for Arabs and whoever lived nearby? And christianity were for Palestinians and Syrians..... Maybe there is no advantage here... It is reasonable that each society has its own sets of rules...maybe Islam is for some societies and Christianity is for others? Since the core teaching is the same, details might not be that crucial?
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