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  1. Deceitful? No I think that’s you, she wasn’t angry and passed away happy with the khaliph ra......get over it. its not a discredit to bukhari as can be seen by the shia brothers sticking to that one point and not moving on.lol. It’s all been explained at the starting of the thread and you can only stick to the word anger and yet forget other hadiths stating that Fatima ra was satisfied with the khaliph. Anger is the word and it’s that word you will hold onto even if put in there by a known narrator who adds words in other works. i can see it’s hard for you to comprehend tha
  2. 1) There was no burning or threatening of Fatima ra, yes threats to Ali ra and Zubair ra.(Never carried out). 2) Yes She ra asked for fadak and was satisfied with the answer from the khaliph. 3) No threats on Fatima ra at all even from the what you provided. No threats to Fatima ra because they loved Her ra more than their own families. keep trying.
  3. Lol great akhlaaq is this what you learnt in Shiism? This is an example of when you cannot fathom the answer you resort to attacks and abuse, not all but some, like you. This messy formula has only got your great thinkers to try and make bukhari unauthentic because of it, great academic thinking that is. Lol.
  4. Dispute? That same land was offered back by Umar ra but ahlubaith ra never took it back. Didn’t they think of it as a dispute? Even when Imam Ali ra came to power He could have very easily took it back but He ra didn’t, not much of a dispute was it.
  5. Lol I have explained as to the reason why it’s of no benefit for ahlu tashayyu to use the Hadith with the word anger. If it still is hard for you to fathom that and instead go into sarcasm.....then......good luck it just shows how academic you are in your answers. Yes she ra passed away happy hence Her husband ra gave allegiance Happily. Nothing hard to understand about that. Brother Fatima ra has passed away....yes like I said before we do love ahlubaith ra, something that was done centuries ago (supposed anger) has been rectified and they were happy with it should be left at that
  6. Excuse? I ain’t looking for no proof of enmity between people, that’s your excuse no matter how illogical it sounds to you, you will believe it as can be seen by your posts even after being told that you can’t base conclusions on weak evidences. That someone was spot on you shouldn’t have bothered, you arguments ain’t exactly intelligent either.
  7. Anger added by some other persons that’s the only thing and nothing else. The rest like I said the Imam ra Her husband, was happy and gave Bayat to the khaliph as the Hadith goes on. So......the wife was angry and died in that state, yet husband forgot the anger and acknowledged him as leader? Sorry but I don’t know who prophet saw’s family is right now to be honest majority of the Muslim population 99% don’t either so that question I really don’t think will be asked at all, it doesn’t even make sense to be even asked that. If I knew a member of Nabi saw’s family obviously I would
  8. My trusted book is only Quran bro, as for the Hadith in question it’s been answered I didn’t say the Hadith was wrong it has issues with the exact word you use “anger”, while others don’t say the same word so you can’t really use it to come to a conclusion on what you think. Erm......when did I ever want to convince anyone? I only had a problem with the conclusion of the poster hence I answered.
  9. As explained previously. Again as explained before with the word anger, it’s easy and simple to understand. And yet it’s the only one often repeated so called evidence with same argument as if it’s the holy grail of finds in Sunni hadith for shiah. I/we Sunni never even think of such things on ahlubaith ra, astaghfirullah, we would never think of you as thinking of such either and when did Umar ra call Fatima ra such??? Please do provide the evidence, i have never heard or come across such saying from Umar ra ......hence alhamdulillah it’s your own opinions like I said
  10. There is no unauthentic Hadith about the issue in HADITH books.......can’t say same for history books. The point is history books are being used as authentic evidences where as the hadith being used for this issue doesnt really help especially the way you want it portrayed. That is all.
  11. Lol I don’t know, but you do use some unauthentic evidences as proofs maybe that’s a reason.
  12. Truth is out there and EASILY available if you have a clear heart, “ALL CLEAR IN THE BOOK”, alhamdulillah. may Allah swt guide us all on the straight path ahlu sunnah and ahlu tashayyu.
  13. Sorry so many questions just saw yours now. hadith is authentic compared to history books being posted on same subject, even then it’s not 100%. hope that answers your question.
  14. 1/ Not that I am aware of or any SUNNI is aware of. 2/ A big NO! 3/ fake story? Yes! again your own conclusions based on not so solid evidence.
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