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  1. Okay, I didn't want this thread to turn into a theological debate about the deity of Christ. I just wanted to know how a Trinitarian Christian like me (who willingly and knowingly accepts the doctrine of the Trinity) will be treated under a Shia rulership. Will I still be treated with full respect and dignity as a human being as long as I don't do anything criminal or disturb the peace?
  2. I'm asking because Oman seems to have less animosity towards Iran compared to the other Arabian Gulf states.
  3. I actually understand the concept of the tax imposed upon Jews and Christians. Muslims pay their own taxes and Jews and Christians pay their own. Taxation is a rule of life no matter what country you live in, and no country can function without revenue from its citizens. My primary intent of the question is how will Trinitarian Christians be treated under a true Islamic state. Is there a difference between a Shia ruled state and a Wahhabi/Salafi ruled state. Many in the West when they hear "Islamic Caliphate" they immediately think of Wahhabi/Salafi ruled states and brings much fear in their minds. I know that the Ibadis of Oman are very tolerant of non-Muslims and treat non-Muslims with full respect and dignity. They don't persecute or marginalize Christians there (even if they have beliefs contrary to Islam). In fact, neutral observers say that Oman is one of the most non-persecuting countries in the Middle East. If that is the case, shouldn't I want to live under an Ibadi rulership than an orthodox Shia rulership?
  4. How would I be treated then under an Islamic caliphate or rulership? Even if I mind my own business, live peaceably, don't do criminal acts, etc. would I still be treated like a pagan if I refuse to convert to a non-Trinitarian belief in God? What if I remain steadfast in my beliefs, how will I be treated even if I live a respectable and peaceful life?
  5. The Quran states that Jews and Christians are a "People of the Book." Yet, traditional Christian theology ascribes divinity to Jesus Christ. I believe in the traditional Christian view of Jesus Christ as the Son of God, with full deity as a human being. I'm sure Muhammad knew very well what Christians believed during his time about God and Jesus and yet he calls them "People of the Book." Unitarians and Arians were a very small minority during his time and most Christians believed in the doctrine of the Trinity. Thus, does that make me a Mushrikeen by Shia Muslims? Just an honest question.
  6. Those are fundamentalists. Some evangelicals can be fundamentalist too, but not most. I think too many Muslims confuse evangelical fundamentalists with Reformation Protestants. They have many beliefs in common but they are not the same. I've never tried to convert or demean a Muslim in my life. Most interactions I've had with Muslims were amicable and respectful.
  7. Huh? With all due respect brother Jesus did preach the gospel of his Kingdom to the Jews and Gentiles (John 3:1-15; 4:1-42). He did not merely feed and heal people but also preached the gospel message.
  8. You cannot prove God's existence with these rationalistic arguments. Many Protestant scholars reject rationalistic proofs for the existence of God. I think in Islam there are also many scholars who reject rationalistic arguments for monotheism.
  9. Christians in general do not attempt to force religion upon those of non-Christian convictions. Aside from fundamentalists in some English-speaking countries, Christians overall have left Muslims to practice their own faith without interference and harrassment. The only time Christians will share about their faith is when a Muslim asks them initially. Thus, do Shias also have the same mentality towards Christians? If a Christian peacefully and respectfully declines to become a Muslim do Shias allow that Christian to remain and practice their Christian faith without interference and harassment? This is an honest question. (I heard that the Ibadis in Oman are the most tolerant Muslims out of all the sects. More so than Twelvers in Iran.)
  10. There is a difference between evangelical fundamentalist ideology so pervasive in the USA and true historic Protestant Christianity that has roots in the Reformation. You will find that the true Protestant theologians of the earlier times in Europe used exegetical, dogmatic, and philosophical methods similar to famous Shia scholars of the past. The modern-day phenomenon of American "evangelicalism" is merely an ideology that has significantly swerved away from genuine Protestant roots.
  11. Not to put a damper on the festive season but Jesus' actual birthday was somewhere in September. Don't ask me how December 25 got consigned as his birthday.
  12. A lot of non-JW mainstream evangelical Christians don't celebrate Christmas either. I'm not one of them but I do know quite a few. Have you guys heard of Saturnalia? A lot of evangelicals believe that Christmas is actually a pagan holiday disguised as a Christian holiday.
  13. Fair enough. But there a lot of non-Muslims in the West who see Muslims from other denominations not taking bold enough steps to stop these radical Salafis. Most of the non-Muslim populace in the West are skeptical because of almost a too passive (and even permissive) approach by other Muslim sects to do something about this nuisance. I know Shias and other sects are fighting these terrorists in the Middle East valiantly but it doesn't seem to sway non-Muslims in the West just how committed Shias and other denominations are in getting rid of these guys.
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