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AbdusSibtayn

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  1. Completely Agree
    AbdusSibtayn reacted to Soldiers and Saffron in Women’s bodies and their choice of dress   
    Whatever way whoever chooses to dress, I think that the most important thing is to maintain ones dignity. 
    Dressing in a revealing fashion is not so dignified in my opinion. That goes for both genders.
    I think the most dignified dress for a women is the abayya because ideally it says something about her, namely she is not trying to please you with revealing her body to you or feel the need to have her looks evaluated by strangers in order to feel validated. She is aware of the reality of human nature, society and her religion, her aim is to please the Creator and not that which is created. Ideally speaking at least.
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    AbdusSibtayn reacted to Hayy ibn Yaqzan in List as many assertive responses U can think of   
    I find that sometimes the most assertive stance you can take, is one which respects your limits, and the expectations of who you're talking with.
    This is like, an explorative stance - where you give yourself the gift of time and clarity to make a full reasoned decision with no immediate commitment - and you are also showing the other party what is needed to make things work.
    It's exactly as the two previous posters @Hameedeh & @AbdusSibtayn demonstrate:
     
     
    Being able to respond with a:
    "I hear what you're saying, so tell me more about X, Y & Z"
    Or other more appropriate phrasing - can lead to great results - and open options for you.
    Just a thought from my experience
    Hope this helps,
    WaSalaam,
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    AbdusSibtayn got a reaction from Heavenly_Silk in Post A Picture Of Your Fav Animal   
    My favorite.

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    AbdusSibtayn got a reaction from ali_fatheroforphans in List as many assertive responses U can think of   
    Wa alaikum assalam,
    No, thanks.
    Sorry, but I disagree.
    That'll work just fine, thanks.
    I'm sorry,but I won't be able to make it.
    I am sorry, but I am unable to help you with this.
    Depends a lot on the situation, actually.
  5. Haha
    AbdusSibtayn got a reaction from ali_fatheroforphans in Types of Shiachat Users Part 2   
    One more category-
    The irregulars- they come once in a while, post something, and then disappear for weeks/months on end.
    I belong to this type.
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    AbdusSibtayn got a reaction from Ejaz in Imam Tawhidi: Got me 10000% here. Please HELP   
    Salam dear sister,
    There is absolutely no way a pervert can abuse this fatwa. The maraja have also stated that this isn't allowed if it harms the minor, which it obviously and inevitably does, so it is haram. You see, the shield of the secondary conditions protecting the child is impenetrable.
    The only reason the maraja have this fatwa in the first place is because they cant outright forbid it due to a legal technicality.
  7. My Prayers
    AbdusSibtayn got a reaction from Ejaz in Imam Tawhidi: Got me 10000% here. Please HELP   
    Brother, please calm down. Try to be clear headed and clarify your confusion.
    The fatwa that you have read exists, but it is a legal fiction not to be acted upon- something which is only theoretically allowed due to lack of prima facie evidence, but something which is absolutely prohibited on secondary and practical considerations.
    The thing is, there are ahadith which explicitly forbid intercourse with a minor, but for other types of pleasures, there is no explicit evidence on the contrary, so the maraja's hands are tied by the silence of the scriptures- they cannot declare it forthright haram due to the principle that 'everything is allowed unless there is evidence on the contrary'. But they know as well that such behavior is physically as well as psychologically damaging to the minor, so they have prohibited it through finding a back door- by introducing the principle of not causing harm to the child. It is only a legal technicality, something which they will never allow to take place in practice due to the obvious harm it causes to the minor.
    It is not just Imam al-Khumayni (rh), but also Sayyid al-Khu'i, and Tawhidi's favorite, Sayyid Shirazi, and among the present maraja, Sayyid Sistani (h.a.), Sayyid Khamenei (h.a.) and Sayyid Rohani (h.a.) who have exactly the same ruling. But they, at the same time, have unequivocally stated that it is absolutely forbidden if it causes harm to the child, which it obviously and invariably does, so it is only a legal fiction which is forbidden in practice, due to the very reality of reality.
    Cool down, clear your head, and read this article. Tawhidi (l.a.)'s lies have been thoroughly refuted here-
    https://exposingtawhidi.wordpress.com/2017/06/26/defence-of-tashayyu-thighing/
    A few parting words - Dear brother, do not cause doubt in you religion, or over the credentials of our scholars, just because of the slanders and lies of a known murtad charlatan who has denied the integrity of the Holy Quran publicly in the past. There will be many things misquoted, truncated and presented to mislead you. But try to verify things and do not jump to conclusions until you get to know the absolute truth about the information.
  8. Completely Agree
    AbdusSibtayn reacted to ShiaMan14 in Why Shiachat Is Dead   
    Ask not what SC can do for you. 
    Ask what you can do for SC.
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    AbdusSibtayn reacted to Reza in Why Shiachat Is Dead   
    You don't have to be a mod to "bring more entertainment and fun". You have the power already!
  10. Haha
    AbdusSibtayn reacted to Ibn Al-Shahid in Anyone who knows what a milcha is?   
    Milcha is when u lose half ur things. it's marriage basically. there is Khutba, that's when u have the chance to run away, engagement. then the next step is milcha
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    AbdusSibtayn reacted to Hameedeh in List as many assertive responses U can think of   
    Salam. I say "Thank you" a lot with my superiors. When they ask me to do something then I want them to know that I feel grateful that they trust me to do it. 
    This is definitely true. If she gives a few examples we could reply with more specific information. 
  12. My Prayers
    AbdusSibtayn reacted to Miss Wonderful in List as many assertive responses U can think of   
    Salam all! I am in need of assertive responses that I can use at work and daily life. So if you can think of some plz list below! I highly appreciate it thanx  xoxoxo
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    AbdusSibtayn reacted to Qa'im in Feminism and Islam   
    You’re correct that in Islam, a mother has no shar’i obligation to cook, clean, or even breastfeed her children. She can even stipulate some of these things in her contract. She can work most of the same jobs as men. But the full equality pushed by feminists is one that would destroy Islamic ethics and law.
    For example: As you know, the Quran obligates half the inheritance of men. Some Muslim feminists cry foul that women receive less inheritance than men. But they overlook that women receive a dower and men don’t, and women are entitled to some of her husband’s earnings, yet men don’t share that privilege.
    So if we start chopping away at one gendered law, the logical conclusion would be to get rid of all gendered laws, and just adopt a liberal individualist approach to fiqh. This however would be unjust, because it does not address the different needs and abilities of the sexes. It also calls into question the infallibility of the revelation: if it needs updates every few years (and yes, feminism is a constantly changing ideology; there have been three major waves in the last century), then that calls into question the foresight of Allah and His Messenger, who are both beyond reproach once you have recognized the realities of iman.
    Other examples of dimorphic laws: hijab, salat and fasting in menstruation, polygamy, guardian permission in marriage, marrying non-Muslims, sharing wealth in marriage, the obligation of working for men, conscription for men, contact with non-mahrams, etc.
  14. Completely Agree
    AbdusSibtayn got a reaction from Waseem162 in Mut'ah taboo needs to end   
    It's like basic economics. If you artificially restrict the supply, the market will find ways bypassing the restrictions (the so-called 'black market') to meet the excess demand caused by the deficiency in supply.
    Desires are a constant. Restrict the halal options, and haram by-ways will immediately crop up.
    I am witnessing the hook up culture among the youth first hand at my university (yes, the Muslim youth from religious, practicing families included), it being a residential campus. Believe me or not, our children are doing it, behind our backs, and more often than we would like to think. We are living in a world post the twentieth century 'Sexual Revolution'.Like it or not. I may sound blunt and brazen, but this is how things are.
    You have the available cards in your deck. Make your move wisely. Let us please educate our children.
  15. Haha
    AbdusSibtayn got a reaction from hasanhh in Types of Shiachat users   
    Don't know where I fit in.
    I think I have a post-structuralist approach when it comes to these classifications. Same for personality tests.
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    AbdusSibtayn got a reaction from AMR5 in Mut'ah taboo needs to end   
    It's like basic economics. If you artificially restrict the supply, the market will find ways bypassing the restrictions (the so-called 'black market') to meet the excess demand caused by the deficiency in supply.
    Desires are a constant. Restrict the halal options, and haram by-ways will immediately crop up.
    I am witnessing the hook up culture among the youth first hand at my university (yes, the Muslim youth from religious, practicing families included), it being a residential campus. Believe me or not, our children are doing it, behind our backs, and more often than we would like to think. We are living in a world post the twentieth century 'Sexual Revolution'.Like it or not. I may sound blunt and brazen, but this is how things are.
    You have the available cards in your deck. Make your move wisely. Let us please educate our children.
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    AbdusSibtayn got a reaction from Ejaz in Feminism and Islam   
    The essay 'Islam versus Feminism' by Dr. Muhammad Legenhausen is the most erudite, thorough and comprehensive writing that I have read on the subject, and the arguments have been presented with a great intellectual depth.
    Sharing it here so that the brothers and sisters may benefit from it. An immensely useful piece of writing.
    https://www.al-islam.org/islam-versus-feminism-dr-muhammad-legenhausen
  18. My Prayers
    AbdusSibtayn got a reaction from shia farm girl in Mut'ah taboo needs to end   
    It's like basic economics. If you artificially restrict the supply, the market will find ways bypassing the restrictions (the so-called 'black market') to meet the excess demand caused by the deficiency in supply.
    Desires are a constant. Restrict the halal options, and haram by-ways will immediately crop up.
    I am witnessing the hook up culture among the youth first hand at my university (yes, the Muslim youth from religious, practicing families included), it being a residential campus. Believe me or not, our children are doing it, behind our backs, and more often than we would like to think. We are living in a world post the twentieth century 'Sexual Revolution'.Like it or not. I may sound blunt and brazen, but this is how things are.
    You have the available cards in your deck. Make your move wisely. Let us please educate our children.
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    AbdusSibtayn reacted to Abu Hadi in Beyond the Revolving Door   
    Bismillah Ar Rahman Ar Rahim
     
    Brothers and Sisters have requested that I give some tips for making a masjid or Islamic Organization 'Revert Friendly', i.e. appealing to those who are interested in Islam from the Majority culture or who just accepted Islam recently. So Here are a few tips that I picked up from being a revert myself and having to go thru this process of integration from majority culture and also from other reverts I have talked to. If anyone would like to add to this, feel free. 
    1. Create a 'Welcoming' Atmosphere
    First, If you see a new person in the masjid, don't ignore them. This needs to be gender appropriate (women with women, men with men) and also not too 'overwhelming'. Here is a sample. 
    Salam Alekum...My name is .....
    Are you new to the area ? 
    If you need any help, let me know. 
    Just some quick 'non intrusive' questions to see if the person is lost or doesn't understand something or needs help. Don't assume that the person doesn't know anything about Islam, i.e. don't ask them if they need help with Salat or wudhu. They may know more than you, and if you immediately jump into this, sometimes, they will assume you are attacking them by implying that they don't know how to pray or do wudhu. Sometimes they don't, or are not sure if they are doing it correctly. But let them do the asking, don't assume what their question is going to be. Also, don't ignore them completely. Alot of times, everyone assumes someone else will ask the person. Don't assume that, because many times
    * * * For the Brothers * * * 
    If the 'new person' happens to be a young, attractive, white female, don't try to pick her up. You need to understand that she is a human being, with a soul and a spirit that is attracted toward Allah(s.w.a), just like every human being. See her as a human being first, and understand that by 'taking advantage' of this opportunity, you might be turning her away from the religion. Be gender appropriate. If she asks you a question, direct her toward a female member.  If there is no female member available, answer her question and move on, don't 'linger' (you know what I mean) and let the conversation turn toward other 'matters'. If we only stick to 'gender appropriateness' when it comes to older, not so attractive 'aunties' and not when it comes to the above mentioned, we show ourselves as hypocrites, and there is nothing that has a more foul stench than hypocrisy. Be consistent with your values and show yourself to be a moral, upstanding member of the masjid or organization first, and if you have any 'chance' with her, it is because she is attracted by those qualities, and not by your 'pick up' lines. 
    If she is looking for a 'Hot Arab / Pakistani / Iranian' guy, there's an app for that. If she is walking in a masjid or an Islamic Organization, she is probably not looking for that. She is probably looking to establish a relationship with Allah(s.w.a), because she is a human being, with a spirit, just like you. She is in a new, alien environment, for her. She probably feels vulnerable, scared, and somewhat confused (i.e. the opposite of the way you would feel when you are looking for 'that'). Just because you are happy and comfortable doesn't mean she is. If you try to push your agenda, at that moment, again, she may head for the door and never come back, thinking to herself that masjids are just a 'pick up place' like a bar or club. If she is going to walk away, she will do that, but don't let what you did contribute to her walking away with a wrong impression of a masjid, Islam, and muslims. 
    * * * End of Rant * * * 
    Don't be the 'Underwear Police' 
    To explain this gently, when someone is wearing Western style clothing and bends down for Ruku or Sujood, sometimes part of their underwear shows. Muslims know how to deal with this issue (most of them anyway), but those, especially, who are new to Islam are not familiar with this issue because they don't fully comprehend the physics of this movement combined with Western Style fashion. There are some, I have seen, who seem to derive great pleasure from going around and pointing out to certain brothers that 'Your underwear is showing'. I have seen this happen to new reverts where they go up to them and do this (in a language other than English), then repeat it shouting, thinking that this will get the person to understand. Then finally someone else translates, 'Your underwear is showing'. I can't fully communicate how ridiculous and embarrassing this seems to a new revert or someone interested in Islam. This alone is enough to make many walk out of the masjid and never come back, because they feel humiliated. Some of you might think you're helping, but believe me, you're not helping. 
    I am not saying if a guy walks into the masjid in a thong, with no shirt on, you should ignore it. But I have never seen this happen, and I doubt it would happen. If you absolutely must say something, and believe that this is your duty under 'Amr bil Maroof...', then just get their attention by eyes and maybe point to the belt area. There, you have done your duty. They will get the message, most of the time. You don't need to be 'dramatic' about this. 
    This also extends to other things, like wudhu. If you see someone making wudhu incorrectly, it is not your absolute duty to correct them. If you happen to be next to them, and feel that you could correct them with good aklaq (like the famous story of Iman Hassan and Imam Hussein) then go ahead. But if you don't feel you can do this, then just forget it. 
    I have personally witnessed a 'brother' trying to correct a new revert who was not doing wudhu correctly. The 'brother' started by saying, 'You know all your prayers are wrong and not accepted by Allah(s.w.a)'. This was his opening line. That new revert didn't give the guy a chance to finish his statement, he simply walked away, walked out of the masjid, and I don't know if he ever came back. Probably thinking, 'why bother with this'. 
    This technique of scaring people might work for some people in some cultures, but it definitely doesn't work with new reverts from Western Countries. Most of these people are adults, not children, and they are used to being treated with some dignity and respect. If you want to correct someone, you must first show them that you respect them as a human being, and that you and I are equal (i.e you are not better than them or above them) and then they will listen to you. If you can't do that and be respectful, and understand the culture well enough to know what is considered respectful or not respectful, then I am asking you, brother to brother, to please not try to correct new reverts. Allah(s.w.a) will not hold you accountable for this. He(s.w.a) will only hold you accountable for what you have the ability to do. If He(s.w.a) hasn't given you the ability to communicate with respect and good aklaq with a certain group of people, then don't communicate with them, or at least don't try to correct them. Please. 
    Also, the guy was factually incorrect (which I later explained to this new revert, he didn't end up leaving Islam, btw, or at least not that I know of). If you make wudhu incorrectly, knowing that you were doing it the wrong way, and still continuing with your salat while having the full knowledge that your wudhu was incorrect and how it was incorrect, then, probably, your prayer is not accepted, but even then we don't know for sure, only Allah(s.w.a) ultimately knows. 
    For Sisters * * * Don't be the 'Hijab Police' * * * 
    If we want to stop the revolving door of reverts to Islam, we must think aklaq first, everything else second. 
    I will post more tips on this thread as they come to my mind. InShahAllah. 
  20. My Prayers
    AbdusSibtayn reacted to RepentantServant in Venting   
    There's a lot of different kinds of people in this world. But I want to speak about only two kinds.
    The first kind of person is the one who despite your disagreements and differences with them, you both still work things out. You both will still get a long and be friends. These are the type of people who know matter what they say, you can trust, and they reciprocate. Why? Because you know they're good people. You know that no matter what happens, you two will always remain loyal to each other. Even if you two have a problem, or someone says something that the other may not like, you both can work it out and eventually get past it. There is a well respected open line of communication between the two. Maturity plays a big part in it as well. Mature people handle things as mature people should. Without all the fuss. Without letting their emotions overtake them, no matter what (within reason of course).  Being a real, loyal, and mature friend is about knowing you both have differences, but being able to work things out despite those differences. Both parties care about how the other feels. Neither is selfish.
    Because what a selfish person (the second type of person I'd like to talk about) would do, is they only think about themselves. The cut out communication. They don't let the other speak. They think about themselves only. Immaturity is one of the main driving factors of all of this. Because a mature person wouldn't cut out communication. They wouldn't abruptly leave or cut you out over such petty things. And even if the reason was a big deal to them, then the least they can do, is let the other person speak and explain themselves, or at least apologize. Because when you cut someone out like that, especially when you trusted them and gave them your all, it shows immaturity in oneself. It shows an egotistical attitude. It shows their true colors. What is even more astounding to me, is when this 'second type of person', establishes themselves from a position of trust. They say they're going to be there for you no matter what. They listen to you and your problems. They even go out of their way to be there for you, when you don't ask for it. Yet when such a petty and easily fixable situation arises, they cut you out all of a sudden, without giving you the chance to even reply. All they did, was put on a show for you. They get your hopes up, they play with your emotions, and they leave.
    I mean, don't get me wrong, they can be and act however they will. But they should at least have the decency, maturity and selflessness that they claim to have, to at least let the other person reply back to what you said, and let them explain themselves and even apologize. I'm astonished at how immature people like this are, when they have so much wisdom themselves. Because you see, its really disappointing to see such a talented and gifted person that has so much wisdom, degrade themselves to such a level where they immaturely and abruptly cut you out of their life without giving you the chance to explain yourself. Especially when in all honesty, the situation is so petty. 
    Now don't get me wrong, its their life and they can do what they will. They are their own person and make their own decisions. But like I said, at least have the decency and maturity to let someone respond to what you had to say. I don't think its right to just cut someone out of your life just because you didn't like something they said, or if it made you uncomfortable. Especially if it wasn't meant to be like that. Especially if there were no harmful intentions. Especially if it was not directed at the other party themselves. Especially when you needed them the most. Whatever the problem is, I guarantee its an easy fix. 
    I think its a selfish thing to do. Especially if that person meant a lot to the other party. Did people like this forget how they can make someone feel? Did people like this forget they have the power to bring out the best in other people? Yet all of a sudden they let their really high status go to waste in the other person's eyes, over the pettiest situation? It isn't worth it at all. 
    If they're mad. I understand. If they just don't want to talk to you again, then I understand. Like I said, people make their own decisions.
    But at least have a heart. Like if your mad, I get it. If you don't want to talk to them anymore, then by all means. But when someone is trying to reach out and apologize, or at least explain themselves... then the other person should be willing to at least hear them out. They don't even need to reply. Just hear them out at least. 
    The way I see it, is this. Its simply immaturity that drives this kind of behavior. These types of people need to grow up a little and experience life. They like the rush and feelings they get, for being the one who is in control. They like being chased. Especially when the other party is trying to reach out, it must be quite the feeling to know that you have an influence on the other person's emotions. These kinds of people like being chased. They like the feeling it brings. It boosts their ego. They have their head up so high, they think they run the place. Like relax. You've already diminished your entire status by doing this. These kinds of people need to check themselves first before they get humbled. Don't walk around this earth so proudly. Don't be arrogant and selfish. Because these people's actions show their true colors. They need to understand that their actions are that of a selfish nature. An ignorant and prideful nature. Because by establishing yourself from a position of trust, gaining people's trust, telling them all these nice little things... and eventually cutting them out for situations so petty, without letting them apologize or explain themselves, and even blocking out the entire line of communication from that person... goes to show their true colors. I'm disgusted at how one can even do that to someone.
    Especially when they tell them all these things of 'I'm gonna be there for you no matter what'. 'You NEVER have to do things alone'. 'Talk to me WHENEVER you need'. And all these hopes and promises and blah blah blah. Yet you just disconnect yourself from them abruptly, right after they confided in you? Right after they trusted you? Right after they believed every single word you said? This is how you repay them? You don't even let them explain themselves and say sorry? Sad. Just sad. Disappointing. Selfish. Prideful.
    Like relax. Live life a little. You need to breath some fresh air here. One day these people will realize how immature and young in the head they once were. Because eventually they will learn to grow up.
    These people don't get to walk on this earth without getting a piece of the other person's mind and how they feel. They don't get to have it their way, although they'd like to think they do. Its not like that. So if you're like this, then contemplate and ponder about the things you've done. Think about how much personal information you received from the other party who trusted you and confided in you, because of the position you established yourself in, and when they needed someone the most. You don't get to establish yourself in such a position, and just walk away for no reason. It isn't right for you to establish yourself in such a high position, gain people's trust, and just walk away over things that are petty. 
    If you hold a high position, then immaturity has no place in it with you. Its not right for you to gain people's trust, and spit right back in their face like it was some sort of game to you. Especially when the situation was laughable and petty. If you can't handle being in a high position like that, then take a step down. Gather yourself up first, and come back when you're ready. You can't be in a position where people look up to you, yet you walk away over the pettiest things. Grow up a little. Don't be selfish. These temporary feelings you get of having influence on another person's emotions and the little high school 'chase' games won't last. The impression you left on others is the only thing that will. 
    So take care of your image. Don't ruin it over petty little things. Never take advantage of people in vulnerable positions. And never make promises you can't keep. 
  21. My Prayers
    AbdusSibtayn reacted to HopefulBeliever in Mid-twenties, female and single - what am I doing wrong?   
    Salam alakum, I appreciate your responses. I have become a lot more flexible with age- even considering guys 8-9 years older as I now realise older guys are more likely to be mature and want to settle down. Although the older the guy the more I start to think that he may have messed around in haram relationships if he has never settled. Anyhow- that's a discussion for another day and I am giving these guys a chance. 
    I am also looking for men online on various match-making websites... I am very active in the community and have many interests but very rarely do you get anybody approaching you if they're interested/ looking for marriage- when were muslim men ever gutsy enough to do that (with class i.e. not being creep).
    With regards to waiting for when I'm older for proposals it's less about my "fear" of not meeting somebody later in life it's about my fear of not meeting somebody soon and committing haram as a result of this. I do appreciate your reassurances though.
    Thank you all for your kind words and support- they have been helpful.
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    AbdusSibtayn got a reaction from Hameedeh in Types of Shiachat users   
    Don't know where I fit in.
    I think I have a post-structuralist approach when it comes to these classifications. Same for personality tests.
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    AbdusSibtayn got a reaction from aaljibar in Maintaining spirituality at work   
    Also, parties are a strict no no.
    I always make it a point to be away from such gatherings. While on field trips, I have many a times insisted that the group should lunch at an alcohol free venue, and made sure that it happens. Not that big a deal if you have considerate colleagues.And it is haram to attend gatherings where alcohol is served.
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    AbdusSibtayn got a reaction from hasanhh in Mid-twenties, female and single - what am I doing wrong?   
    Assalamu alaikum,
    Dear sister,
    Don't lose hope. If Allah سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى is delaying things for you, there must be something good waiting for you at the end.
    I don't know that well about women in the mid- twenties, but for us men, 20-25 is an awkward phase (I myself fall within this age group). It's a confused state of mind to be in. We instinctively feel that we are no longer boys, and we also know that we are yet not quite men either. In their mid- twenties, most men have just finished their education and are looking for jobs and financial stability. It's a sudden realization of their familial responsibilities that strikes them. For most of us this is a rough patch to navigate through, especially if we have had protective parents and an overprotected upbringing. Trust me, guys this age don't even seriously know what marriage is. They are attracted to women, and they crave female companionship, but they are afraid of committing, and the responsibilities that it entails. They are just not in the right frame of mind to settle down, because deep down they know they are yet not matured enough for the task.
    Consider relaxing the age limit a bit. Include men in their late twenties in your list. 3-4 years of age gap won't make that big a difference. I am convinced that men take longer to mature than women.
    What kind of intellectual pursuits are you interested in? Have you considered joining any related clubs/societies?
  25. Haha
    AbdusSibtayn got a reaction from GD41586 in I feel so tired every morning   
    Try becoming a Zen-Shia.
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