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  1. thats not true as far as i know. just simple shia misconceptions like many of them think that sunnis say that muawiyah was promised paradise. and its a bit of a coincidence at best but shias do have a habit of conviniently giving false and weak sunni refernces and claiming them to be authentic for example shias say that Aisha said to Uthman “Kill this old fool (Na’thal), for he is unbeliever.” ^^^^ Sunni references: - History of Ibn Athir, v3, p206 - Lisan al-Arab, v14, p141 - al-Iqd al-Farid, v4, p290 - Sharh Ibn Abi al-Hadid, v16, pp 220-223 lets discuss these references (1) Sharh Ibn Abi al-Hadid Ibn Abi al-Hadid was not a Sunni at all, but rather a Mutazzalite/Shia. In “Al-Kunna wal Al-Alqab” (vol.1, p.185), the Shia scholar al-Qummi outlines the staunch and fanatical Shia background of Ibn Abi Al-Hadid in al-Madain (2) Iqd al-Fareed Once again, the Shia attempt to pass off an insignificant and useless source as being an “authentic Sunni text.” Iqd al-Fareed is not a history book at all, but rather it is a literary novel that contains elements of fiction in it. (3) Lisan al-Arab Lisan al-Arab is a dictionary!
  2. find me a refernce that wahabis allow eating of pork in normal circumstances? honestly a child will hve more manners nd brains than u do....uncle... and yes show me the difference in how u and an extremist wahabbi talk???
  3. can u provide the authencity of these books...how authentic there are considered when compared to other sunni 6 books? i can give a dozen or so shia hadith which raise their imamas level a lot leading to the point of shirk for example 5. “The Imams have knowledge of whatever occurred in the past and whatever will happen in the future, and nothing is concealed from them.” (Al-Kafi, p. 260.) compare that with “And with Him are the keys of the unseen treasures– none knows them but He!” (Quran 6:59) 4. “The Imams know when they will die, and they do not die except by their own choice.” (Al-Kafi, p. 258.) compare that with “Avert death from your ownselves, if you speak the truth!” (Quran, 3:168) and “those for whom death was decreed would certainly have gone forth to the place of their death [no matter what]” (Quran, 3:154)
  4. how was yazeed the imam of Wahabbis? they dotn have any imams in the true shia sense... and kaba was built first by Adam and then by Ibrahim AS so it is the house Of Allah first and Birthplace of Hazrat ALi later. and poiyt cut out the BS...a neutral observer would find no difference between u and a wahabi....u are both slandering and excommunicating somone....is that really islamic.
  5. Q: There is a command to convey the Haqq (Truth) to one’s “Ahl” as well as to forbid them from the evil things, so in this command, who is “Ahl”? And is one’s wife included in this, and is this command (to convey the truth) applicable to one’s wife? Answer by al-Ko’i: Yes, the wife is part of the “Ahl”, and this command is in regards to her too. And Allah knows best. (source: Sirat al-Najat, by Grand Ayatollah al-Kho’i, p.426 if we use this then shouldent the Prophets wives by his Ahl? and heres a dua on ayesha and hafsa “In the name of Allah the Beneficent the Merciful. O Allah! Curse the two idols of Quraish [Abu Bakr and Umar]…and their two daughters [Aisha and Hafsa]. Rebuke them, they have consumed Your sustenance and have denied Your obligations. Both have discarded Your commands, have rejected Your revelation, have disobeyed Your Prophet, have destroyed Your religion, have distorted Your book, have made Your laws ineffective, have declared Your obligatory actions as incorrect, have disbelieved in Your signs, have oppressed Your friends, have loved Your enemies, have spread corruption among Your people, [and] have made Your world incur losses. O Allah! Send Your curses on them and their helpers as they have ruined the house of Your prophet, have dug the door of his house, broken the roof, have brought down the walls, have made the skies [into] the ground, have destroyed its inhabitants, have killed their supporters, have put to death their children, have deserted his pulpit… O Allah, send Your chastisement on them to the extent of the [combined] sins of every disobedient person. …and to the number of pious people whom they have troubled, and whom they have driven out of their cities and [thereby] helped the disbelievers, and the Imam on whom they were cruel… …and [they] have changed the obligatory laws, and have destroyed the practise of the Holy Prophet. …and whatever evils they have concealed, the blood which they have shed… [They] have changed the goodness and have altered the commands, have created disbelief… …the lie for which they have cheated, the inheritance which they have plundered… …[they have] stopped the booties from [being given to] them, and [they] have consumed the prohibited wealth, and that ‘Khums’ (the fifth part) which they considered as permitted for them, and that evil whose foundation was put, and that cruelty which they made common, that oppression which they spread, those promises which they dishonored, those covenants which they broke, those lawful things which they termed as unlawful, and those unlawful things which they termed as lawful, that hypocrisy which they have concealed in their hearts… …and to the amount of treachery which they bore in their hearts, and those stomachs which they have split open…and that door which they broke-open, and those gatherings which they dispersed and those degraded people whom they gave honor to, and those honorable people whom they insulted, and by the number of rights which they have usurped… …and the order of the Imam which they opposed, bestow Your wrath on them to the extent of their atrocities! O Allah! Your curses on them to the extent of alteration in the Quran and the covering of truth, rendering the will worthless, and breaking the promises, and declaring all the claims as void, refusing all allegiances, presenting excuses, introducing breach of trust…Bestow Your curses on them! O Allah curse those two, secretly and openly, with such a beating which is forever continuous, nonstop and innumberable. Such a whipping which commences in the morning but does not end at night.* Such a beating should be on those tyrants, and their helpers, their assistance, their friends and their lovers, those attracted to them and those who acknowledge their deeds, those who present proof for them, and those who follow their words, and those who approve their actions. (Then recite four times). O Allah! Send such a harsh chastisement upon them that the dwellers of Hell start screaming. O Lord of the Universe, accept this prayer from me. source: http://www.duas.org/alaviya/dua-120.htm” The Shia claim that Ali ibn Abi Talib used to recite Du’a Saname Quraish in the Qunoot of his prayers, and that he said: “He who recites this Du’a is (in terms of reward) like a marksman who have shot 1000 arrows in the battle of Badr and Uhud beside the Prophet.” - Mustadrak al-Wasa’il, v4, p405, Hadith #5021 - Bihar al-Anwar, v82/85, p260, Hadith #5 There are many Shia narrations which talk about the beating the Prophet’s wife will endure at the hands of Imam Mehdi: “When the Twelvth Imam returns, Aisha will be raised from the dead so as to be whipped as due punishment.” (Al Shafi, Vol. No. 2, Page No. 108) “When the Twelvth Imam returns, he will bring Aisha to life so as to torment her.” (Haq-ul-Yaqeen, Page No. 139) “Imam Mehdi will punish Aisha with stripes.” (Hayat-ul-Quloob, Vol. No. 2, Page No. 901) “When Imam Mahdi arrives, Aisha will be resurrected so that she may be given a prescribed punishment and that Fatima be vindicated.” (Mullah Baqir Majlisi, Haqqul Yaqeen, p. 347
  6. if u read the bok mohammed by karen armstrong she devotes half od her book on the ancient religion of the arabs....they did believe in Allah as the Supreme god...If they didnot believe in Allah then why would they call Lat manat and Uzza as the daughters of Allah?
  7. “Aisha was an infidel woman (Kaffir).” (Hayat-ul-Quloob, Vol. No. 2, Page No. 726) It is further stated: “Aisha was a hypocrite (Munafiqh).” (Hayat-ul-Quloob, Page No. 867) And again: “Aisha and Hafsa were hypocrite and infidel women.” (Hayat-ul-Quloob, Vol. No. 2, Page No. 900) if u follow these sayings then i guess u are correct....although i find it hard to believe that the prophet would marry a kafir and nathal means fool not jew...get ur arabic right that saying has 4 bogus references u can check them out on ab.com Sunni references: - History of Ibn Athir, v3, p206 - Lisan al-Arab, v14, p141 - al-Iqd al-Farid, v4, p290 - Sharh Ibn Abi al-Hadid, v16, pp 220-223 Ibn Abi al-Hadid was not a Sunni at all, but rather a Mutazzalite/Shia. In “Al-Kunna wal Al-Alqab” (vol.1, p.185), the Shia scholar al-Qummi outlines the staunch and fanatical Shia background of Ibn Abi Al-Hadid in al-Madain Once again, the Shia attempt to pass off an insignificant and useless source as being an “authentic Sunni text.” Iqd al-Fareed is not a history book at all, but rather it is a literary novel that contains elements of fiction in it. Lisan al-Arab is a dictionary! The fact that the questioner names this work as the “History of Ibn Atheer” appears to reveal that he himself is unfamiliar with the book, and happens to be citing it from second or third hand sources. For his information, the book’s proper title is “al-Kamil fi al-Tareekh”. Had the questioner been familiar with this book he would have been aware of the fact that this book is directly based upon Ibn Jarir at-Tabari’s work; and had he been familiar with Tabari’s work he would have known that Tabari has recorded the material in his book complete with chains of narrations. He would also have known that Tabari himself, in a disclaimer at the end of his introduction (vol.1, p.24), declares that in terms of authenticity the material in his book is only as good as the chains of narration through which it has come down to him. Tabari narrates from Ali ibn Ahmad ibn Hasan al-Ijli, who narrates from Husayn ibn Nasr al-Attar, who narrates from his father Nasr ibn Muzahim al-Attar… Up to this point the following flaws present itself in the chain: 1. Of Tabari’s immediate source, Ali ibn Ahmad ibn Hasan al-Ijli, no trace can be found in the biographical works of narrators. He is thus an unknown person. 2. The next person in the chain is Husayn ibn Nasr ibn Muzahim. Of him too, no trace is to be found in the biographical literature–hence another unknown person. The only thing that is known about him is the fact that he is the son of Nasr ibn Muzahim. 3. Nasr ibn Muzahim presents a major problem. He was known in his lifetime as a forger of historical material, and was condemned for it by, amongst others, the Hadith expert Abu Khaythamah Zuhayr ibn Harb. His general unreliability as a narrator of historical material is echoed by al-Uqayli, Abu Hatim ar-Razi, ad-Daraqutni, al-Ijli, al-Khalili and Ibn Adi. He is described by a number of these experts as a hardcore extremist Shia. (See Lisan al-Mizan vol.7, p.187) Even a non-muhaddith such as the literary biographer Yaqut al-Hamawi describes him as an extremist Shia who stands accused of forgery and is generally unreliable. (Mujam al-Udaba vol.19, p.225)
  8. i think u misunderstood me....i was referring to the fact that there is nothing in the quran about the killing of fisrst born egyptians by GOD and the massacres by the jews of the canaanites.... Mecca never had a big jewish populations....and if u are reffering to the 3 jewish tribes of madinah.... the constitution of Madinah and which was agreed on bby jews said that if any group in madina is attacked it is the duty of others to protect them... Qaynuqa humiliated a muslim girl and when a muslim man rushed to defend her they killed him...they were justifiably expelled. Nadir tried to assasinate the Prophet so they were expelld... Quraizah betrayed the muslims during the battle of the trench...they asked for one of their ex-allies to pass judgment on their fate...hazrat Sad bin Muadh (ra) who was from Aws and he passed a judgemnet according to the jewish and the yathrib laws that all men complicit in the betrayal to be executed and the women and children sold as slaves..... and all christians and jews were expelled form arabia after the Prophet when the young islamic empire was besieged by the Byzzantines and Sassanians...it was a safety measure....they were allowed to live outside arabia in any part of the islamic empire
  9. (salam) in sunni islam whenever a muezzin calls we respond witht he same words...like after the muezzin says the takbir we do the same...is there anything like that in shia islam....and if there is then are u allowed to respond to a sunni azan?
  10. did u know that moses was succeded not by Aron but by Joshua as the leader of the bani isreal
  11. congrats man....errr for wahtever u wanted to prove from this post
  12. hmmm i wonder that if u marry at 19 20 etc....waht abt ur studies i mean they are important too...how will u support ur family if u dont have a good job?
  13. actually the kafirs of Makkah did believe in Allah as the supreme gGod hence u have some like Abdullah bin Ubayy...but they believd that he had daughters like manat lat if u dont have something useful to contribute then its best to remain quiet
  14. i lived in sauid arabia for 14 years and all types of arabs i encounterd...saudis blacks yemenis lebanese egyptian were incredibly rascist....i used to go the mosque and arab boys used to taunt me as a 'hindi kalb' on the way and some went even as far as calling me 'yahoodi'...its a pity that those people from whm the Prophet appeared have becom one of the most intolerant races in the worlf
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