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Ibn Al-Ja'abi

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    Ibn Al-Ja'abi got a reaction from Ashvazdanghe in Ummayyad Coin   
    It should read:
    بسم الله ضرب هذا الدين(ا)ر سنة خمس ومئه
    In the name of God, this Dinar was struck in the year one-hundred-and-five.
     
    If you are referring to the revisionist hypothesis put forth by Crone et al. then you'd need to find earlier coins or inscriptions. They posit that the change was around AD 690, this coin would fit in with their narrative.
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    Ibn Al-Ja'abi got a reaction from Ashvazdanghe in Ummayyad Coin   
    Salams,
    I hijazi texts -- or really any texts without dots. You need a lot more experience than I have with Arabic to be able to do it well. I also have little experience with numismatics that I would've picked up formulas and generic texts to help understand this one, it's a pity there's no reference for this to an existing database of Islamic coins, there might've been more information then on the text. Nevertheless, a first attempt at reading the coin:
    Just the middle portion:
    الله أحد الله الصمد لم يلد ولم يولد معدن أمير المومنين بالحجاز
    God is one, God is self-sufficient, neither siring or sired. The metal of the Amir al-Muminin in al-Hijaz.
    I will try to get to the text going around the perimeter afterwards, all I could currently make out was بسم الله and immediately prior to it منه
    [correction of another mistaken reading, initially أبد instead of أحد, the latter would be more tenuous as I'm not aware of such language being used for God in the Umayyad period compounded with the paraphrase of Surah Ikhlas as another member pointed out, أحد is the correct reading as well since there is a dip below the baseline meaning the letter isn't a ب but a ح]
    The middle portion:
    لا إله إلا الله وحده لا شريك له
    There is no God but God, alone and with no partners to him.
    Around the perimeter:
    محمد رسول الله أرسله بالهدى ودين الحق ليظهره على الدين كله
    Muhammad is the Messenger of God, he sent him with guidance and true religion that he may make it victorious over all religions.
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    Ibn Al-Ja'abi got a reaction from Ashvazdanghe in Founder of christanity?   
    It's not "I" or "someone in my position", it's more "someone" or "a man". For example, the following passage:
    וְאָנֹכִ֣י תוֹלַ֣עַת וְלֹא־אִ֑ישׁ חֶרְפַּ֥ת אָ֝דָ֗ם וּבְז֥וּי עָֽם׃
    I am a worm, not a man*, scorned by men and despised by people. (Ps 22:7 -- 22:6 in English Bibles)
    The word man is generically a human as opposed to specifically a male since it's being contrasted with the species "worm". In the Aramaic Targum of Psalms this verse is rendered:
    וַאֲנָא זְחִיל חֲלָשׁ וְלָא גִבָּר סָכָל חִסוּדֵי בְּנֵי נָשָׁא וּמִתְרַמְרְמוּתָא דְעַמְמֵי:
    I am a weak worm and not a man, a foolish shame among men and the object of contempt of people.
    What is interesting to note is that in the above "a foolish shame among men" may be also translated "a foolish shame among the sons of man", that is to say just people generically (this is the translation of åδåm in the Hebrew). In the Syriac translation, the Pe[Edited Out]ta, you find:
    ܐܢܐ ܬܘܠܥܐ ܐܢܐ ܘܠܐ ܒܪܢܫܐ܂ ܚܣܕܐ ܕܒܢ̈ܝ ܐܢܫܐ ܘܣܘܠܢܗ ܕܥܡܐ܂
    I am a worm, not a man, shamed by men and despised by people.
    Now in both instances "man" is "son of man" in the Syriac, just meaning someone or a man in general.
     
    Now considering Mt.8:20:
    και λεγει αυτω ο ιησους αι αλωπεκες φωλεους εχουσιν και τα πετεινα του ουρανου κατασκηνωσεις ο δε υιος του ανθρωπου ουκ εχει που την κεφαλην κλινη
    To translate the intended idiom we would translate it:
    And Jesus said to him: "Foxes have their dens and the birds of the heavens have their nests, but a man [or: someone] does not have a place to lay his head."
    The Syriac translation of the Greek reads with that idiom of "someone":
    ܐܡܪ ܡܪܢ ܠܬܥܠܐ ܢܩ̈ܥܐ ܐܝܬ ܠܗܘܢ ܘܠܦܪܚܬܐ ܕܫܡܝܐ ܡܛܠܠܐ ܘܠܒܪܗ ܕܐܢܫܐ ܠܝܬ ܠܗ ܐܬܪ ܕܢܣܡܘܟ ܪܝܫܗ
    The preservation of this idiom in translations is ancient, even being maintained by Jerome who must have had some exposure to Aramaic as as a spoken vernacular -- as he'd spent time in Palestine to pick up on Hebrew and Aramaic for translating the Bible and records information about Aramaic and the people he'd encountered there:
    Et dicit ei Iesus: Vulpes foveas habent, et volucres cæli nidos: Filius autem hominis non habet ubi caput reclinet.
    This phrase is again "someone" in Daniel, specifically a Messianic figure in the case of this passage -- remember that this section of Daniel is written in Aramaic, not in Hebrew:
     חָזֵ֤ה הֲוֵית֙ בְּחֶזְוֵ֣י לֵֽילְיָ֔א וַאֲרוּ֙ עִם־עֲנָנֵ֣י שְׁמַיָּ֔א כְּבַ֥ר אֱנָ֖שׁ אָתֵ֣ה הֲוָ֑ה וְעַד־עַתִּ֤יק יֽוֹמַיָּא֙ מְטָ֔ה וּקְדָמ֖וֹהִי הַקְרְבֽוּהִי׃
    As I was seeing in the vision of the night that with the clouds of the heavens someone like a man was coming and was reaching into ancient days and he was presented to him.
    The reading of "someone" or a man generally works again here. I came across this article a few weeks ago which discussed the possible significance of using the phrase which you may perhaps be interested in, it isn't necessitated that this person must be Jesus in fact, just the Messiah that the Second Temple period Jews writing Daniel had in mind. Reading Jesus is an interpretation of the text stemming from your sectarian persuasion, which is fine as long as its acknowledged it isn't evident in the text of Daniel alone. 
    I'd recommend you read the CAL definition of this phrase, they also have a variety of examples in their definitions (including one from the Sefire steles from some seven hundred years before Jesus: bkl mh zy ymwt br ʾnš -- with anything from which a person may die). There is one important thing in considering the attestations of this phrase especially in the Biblical text and translations, the Aramaic is a very ancient language with a great many varieties attested over a longer period that Hebrew. The second definition of "person-hood" might fight the Syriac idiom better but "someone" (the first definition) seems to have been used pretty much continuously from Old Aramaic texts. I must also acknowledge that while Syriac wasn't the language of composition of the NT and it wasn't the dialect of Aramaic which Jesus spoke -- his being a transitional west Aramaic dialect while Syriac is the eastern Aramaic dialect of Edessa --, but looking at the Syriac is useful for considering the Semitic, and specifically Aramaic, idiom that Jesus was speaking in and the NT authors are trying to convey. It seems pretty clear that this phrase actually should be read as "someone".
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    Ibn Al-Ja'abi got a reaction from Haji 2003 in Ummayyad Coin   
    Salams,
    I hijazi texts -- or really any texts without dots. You need a lot more experience than I have with Arabic to be able to do it well. I also have little experience with numismatics that I would've picked up formulas and generic texts to help understand this one, it's a pity there's no reference for this to an existing database of Islamic coins, there might've been more information then on the text. Nevertheless, a first attempt at reading the coin:
    Just the middle portion:
    الله أحد الله الصمد لم يلد ولم يولد معدن أمير المومنين بالحجاز
    God is one, God is self-sufficient, neither siring or sired. The metal of the Amir al-Muminin in al-Hijaz.
    I will try to get to the text going around the perimeter afterwards, all I could currently make out was بسم الله and immediately prior to it منه
    [correction of another mistaken reading, initially أبد instead of أحد, the latter would be more tenuous as I'm not aware of such language being used for God in the Umayyad period compounded with the paraphrase of Surah Ikhlas as another member pointed out, أحد is the correct reading as well since there is a dip below the baseline meaning the letter isn't a ب but a ح]
    The middle portion:
    لا إله إلا الله وحده لا شريك له
    There is no God but God, alone and with no partners to him.
    Around the perimeter:
    محمد رسول الله أرسله بالهدى ودين الحق ليظهره على الدين كله
    Muhammad is the Messenger of God, he sent him with guidance and true religion that he may make it victorious over all religions.
  5. Haha
    Ibn Al-Ja'abi got a reaction from AmirioTheMuzzy in The Dream Women - In my opinion   
    Salams,
    Some important things for me:
    Can reconstruct the asānīd of Tafsīr al-Ayyāshī.
    Has strong opinions about the primacy of existence vs the primacy of essence.
    Has written at least 5 articles about inductive reasoning.
    Has memorized and can tell the etymology of the hapax legomena of the Qur'an.
    Some experience with Canaanite epigraphy.
    A working knowledge of classical Syriac and classical Tibetan. Obviously, though, I'd like her to only speak to our children in Old Arabic, I'll let her choose the variety.
    Can imitate Ciceronian clauses in the Latin.
    Was there for the Nag Hammadi discovery — though ideally my age or younger.
    Has memorized both Aristotle's corpus and the Baal cycle in Greek and Ugaritic respectively, Phoenician will not do for the latter.
    Must be able to write grocery lists in Sumerian, I'm alright with her only knowing 5000 signs.
    Has on foot traveled from Byzantium to Qashghar but should be fine with being a stay-at-home wife.
    Must like camels, big deal breaker for me if she can't identify her wild from her domesticated Bactrians though obviously her preference should be for a good breed of dromedary.
     
    I think it's a reasonable list of expectations.
    Iltimas-e Dua
    Wassalam
  6. Haha
    Ibn Al-Ja'abi got a reaction from Sirius_Bright in The Dream Women - In my opinion   
    Salams,
    Some important things for me:
    Can reconstruct the asānīd of Tafsīr al-Ayyāshī.
    Has strong opinions about the primacy of existence vs the primacy of essence.
    Has written at least 5 articles about inductive reasoning.
    Has memorized and can tell the etymology of the hapax legomena of the Qur'an.
    Some experience with Canaanite epigraphy.
    A working knowledge of classical Syriac and classical Tibetan. Obviously, though, I'd like her to only speak to our children in Old Arabic, I'll let her choose the variety.
    Can imitate Ciceronian clauses in the Latin.
    Was there for the Nag Hammadi discovery — though ideally my age or younger.
    Has memorized both Aristotle's corpus and the Baal cycle in Greek and Ugaritic respectively, Phoenician will not do for the latter.
    Must be able to write grocery lists in Sumerian, I'm alright with her only knowing 5000 signs.
    Has on foot traveled from Byzantium to Qashghar but should be fine with being a stay-at-home wife.
    Must like camels, big deal breaker for me if she can't identify her wild from her domesticated Bactrians though obviously her preference should be for a good breed of dromedary.
     
    I think it's a reasonable list of expectations.
    Iltimas-e Dua
    Wassalam
  7. Haha
    Ibn Al-Ja'abi got a reaction from SeekingHeaven in The Dream Women - In my opinion   
    Salams,
    Some important things for me:
    Can reconstruct the asānīd of Tafsīr al-Ayyāshī.
    Has strong opinions about the primacy of existence vs the primacy of essence.
    Has written at least 5 articles about inductive reasoning.
    Has memorized and can tell the etymology of the hapax legomena of the Qur'an.
    Some experience with Canaanite epigraphy.
    A working knowledge of classical Syriac and classical Tibetan. Obviously, though, I'd like her to only speak to our children in Old Arabic, I'll let her choose the variety.
    Can imitate Ciceronian clauses in the Latin.
    Was there for the Nag Hammadi discovery — though ideally my age or younger.
    Has memorized both Aristotle's corpus and the Baal cycle in Greek and Ugaritic respectively, Phoenician will not do for the latter.
    Must be able to write grocery lists in Sumerian, I'm alright with her only knowing 5000 signs.
    Has on foot traveled from Byzantium to Qashghar but should be fine with being a stay-at-home wife.
    Must like camels, big deal breaker for me if she can't identify her wild from her domesticated Bactrians though obviously her preference should be for a good breed of dromedary.
     
    I think it's a reasonable list of expectations.
    Iltimas-e Dua
    Wassalam
  8. Haha
    Ibn Al-Ja'abi got a reaction from Ashvazdanghe in The Dream Women - In my opinion   
    Salams,
    Some important things for me:
    Can reconstruct the asānīd of Tafsīr al-Ayyāshī.
    Has strong opinions about the primacy of existence vs the primacy of essence.
    Has written at least 5 articles about inductive reasoning.
    Has memorized and can tell the etymology of the hapax legomena of the Qur'an.
    Some experience with Canaanite epigraphy.
    A working knowledge of classical Syriac and classical Tibetan. Obviously, though, I'd like her to only speak to our children in Old Arabic, I'll let her choose the variety.
    Can imitate Ciceronian clauses in the Latin.
    Was there for the Nag Hammadi discovery — though ideally my age or younger.
    Has memorized both Aristotle's corpus and the Baal cycle in Greek and Ugaritic respectively, Phoenician will not do for the latter.
    Must be able to write grocery lists in Sumerian, I'm alright with her only knowing 5000 signs.
    Has on foot traveled from Byzantium to Qashghar but should be fine with being a stay-at-home wife.
    Must like camels, big deal breaker for me if she can't identify her wild from her domesticated Bactrians though obviously her preference should be for a good breed of dromedary.
     
    I think it's a reasonable list of expectations.
    Iltimas-e Dua
    Wassalam
  9. Completely Agree
    Ibn Al-Ja'abi got a reaction from Ejaz in The Dream Women - In my opinion   
    Salams,
    Some important things for me:
    Can reconstruct the asānīd of Tafsīr al-Ayyāshī.
    Has strong opinions about the primacy of existence vs the primacy of essence.
    Has written at least 5 articles about inductive reasoning.
    Has memorized and can tell the etymology of the hapax legomena of the Qur'an.
    Some experience with Canaanite epigraphy.
    A working knowledge of classical Syriac and classical Tibetan. Obviously, though, I'd like her to only speak to our children in Old Arabic, I'll let her choose the variety.
    Can imitate Ciceronian clauses in the Latin.
    Was there for the Nag Hammadi discovery — though ideally my age or younger.
    Has memorized both Aristotle's corpus and the Baal cycle in Greek and Ugaritic respectively, Phoenician will not do for the latter.
    Must be able to write grocery lists in Sumerian, I'm alright with her only knowing 5000 signs.
    Has on foot traveled from Byzantium to Qashghar but should be fine with being a stay-at-home wife.
    Must like camels, big deal breaker for me if she can't identify her wild from her domesticated Bactrians though obviously her preference should be for a good breed of dromedary.
     
    I think it's a reasonable list of expectations.
    Iltimas-e Dua
    Wassalam
  10. Haha
    Ibn Al-Ja'abi got a reaction from Ruqaya101 in The Dream Women - In my opinion   
    Salams,
    Some important things for me:
    Can reconstruct the asānīd of Tafsīr al-Ayyāshī.
    Has strong opinions about the primacy of existence vs the primacy of essence.
    Has written at least 5 articles about inductive reasoning.
    Has memorized and can tell the etymology of the hapax legomena of the Qur'an.
    Some experience with Canaanite epigraphy.
    A working knowledge of classical Syriac and classical Tibetan. Obviously, though, I'd like her to only speak to our children in Old Arabic, I'll let her choose the variety.
    Can imitate Ciceronian clauses in the Latin.
    Was there for the Nag Hammadi discovery — though ideally my age or younger.
    Has memorized both Aristotle's corpus and the Baal cycle in Greek and Ugaritic respectively, Phoenician will not do for the latter.
    Must be able to write grocery lists in Sumerian, I'm alright with her only knowing 5000 signs.
    Has on foot traveled from Byzantium to Qashghar but should be fine with being a stay-at-home wife.
    Must like camels, big deal breaker for me if she can't identify her wild from her domesticated Bactrians though obviously her preference should be for a good breed of dromedary.
     
    I think it's a reasonable list of expectations.
    Iltimas-e Dua
    Wassalam
  11. Haha
    Ibn Al-Ja'abi got a reaction from shia farm girl in The Dream Women - In my opinion   
    Salams,
    Some important things for me:
    Can reconstruct the asānīd of Tafsīr al-Ayyāshī.
    Has strong opinions about the primacy of existence vs the primacy of essence.
    Has written at least 5 articles about inductive reasoning.
    Has memorized and can tell the etymology of the hapax legomena of the Qur'an.
    Some experience with Canaanite epigraphy.
    A working knowledge of classical Syriac and classical Tibetan. Obviously, though, I'd like her to only speak to our children in Old Arabic, I'll let her choose the variety.
    Can imitate Ciceronian clauses in the Latin.
    Was there for the Nag Hammadi discovery — though ideally my age or younger.
    Has memorized both Aristotle's corpus and the Baal cycle in Greek and Ugaritic respectively, Phoenician will not do for the latter.
    Must be able to write grocery lists in Sumerian, I'm alright with her only knowing 5000 signs.
    Has on foot traveled from Byzantium to Qashghar but should be fine with being a stay-at-home wife.
    Must like camels, big deal breaker for me if she can't identify her wild from her domesticated Bactrians though obviously her preference should be for a good breed of dromedary.
     
    I think it's a reasonable list of expectations.
    Iltimas-e Dua
    Wassalam
  12. Haha
    Ibn Al-Ja'abi got a reaction from Abu Nur in The Dream Women - In my opinion   
    Salams,
    Some important things for me:
    Can reconstruct the asānīd of Tafsīr al-Ayyāshī.
    Has strong opinions about the primacy of existence vs the primacy of essence.
    Has written at least 5 articles about inductive reasoning.
    Has memorized and can tell the etymology of the hapax legomena of the Qur'an.
    Some experience with Canaanite epigraphy.
    A working knowledge of classical Syriac and classical Tibetan. Obviously, though, I'd like her to only speak to our children in Old Arabic, I'll let her choose the variety.
    Can imitate Ciceronian clauses in the Latin.
    Was there for the Nag Hammadi discovery — though ideally my age or younger.
    Has memorized both Aristotle's corpus and the Baal cycle in Greek and Ugaritic respectively, Phoenician will not do for the latter.
    Must be able to write grocery lists in Sumerian, I'm alright with her only knowing 5000 signs.
    Has on foot traveled from Byzantium to Qashghar but should be fine with being a stay-at-home wife.
    Must like camels, big deal breaker for me if she can't identify her wild from her domesticated Bactrians though obviously her preference should be for a good breed of dromedary.
     
    I think it's a reasonable list of expectations.
    Iltimas-e Dua
    Wassalam
  13. Haha
    Ibn Al-Ja'abi got a reaction from ali_fatheroforphans in The Dream Women - In my opinion   
    Salams,
    Some important things for me:
    Can reconstruct the asānīd of Tafsīr al-Ayyāshī.
    Has strong opinions about the primacy of existence vs the primacy of essence.
    Has written at least 5 articles about inductive reasoning.
    Has memorized and can tell the etymology of the hapax legomena of the Qur'an.
    Some experience with Canaanite epigraphy.
    A working knowledge of classical Syriac and classical Tibetan. Obviously, though, I'd like her to only speak to our children in Old Arabic, I'll let her choose the variety.
    Can imitate Ciceronian clauses in the Latin.
    Was there for the Nag Hammadi discovery — though ideally my age or younger.
    Has memorized both Aristotle's corpus and the Baal cycle in Greek and Ugaritic respectively, Phoenician will not do for the latter.
    Must be able to write grocery lists in Sumerian, I'm alright with her only knowing 5000 signs.
    Has on foot traveled from Byzantium to Qashghar but should be fine with being a stay-at-home wife.
    Must like camels, big deal breaker for me if she can't identify her wild from her domesticated Bactrians though obviously her preference should be for a good breed of dromedary.
     
    I think it's a reasonable list of expectations.
    Iltimas-e Dua
    Wassalam
  14. Completely Agree
    Ibn Al-Ja'abi got a reaction from habib e najjaar in The Dream Women - In my opinion   
    Salams,
    Some important things for me:
    Can reconstruct the asānīd of Tafsīr al-Ayyāshī.
    Has strong opinions about the primacy of existence vs the primacy of essence.
    Has written at least 5 articles about inductive reasoning.
    Has memorized and can tell the etymology of the hapax legomena of the Qur'an.
    Some experience with Canaanite epigraphy.
    A working knowledge of classical Syriac and classical Tibetan. Obviously, though, I'd like her to only speak to our children in Old Arabic, I'll let her choose the variety.
    Can imitate Ciceronian clauses in the Latin.
    Was there for the Nag Hammadi discovery — though ideally my age or younger.
    Has memorized both Aristotle's corpus and the Baal cycle in Greek and Ugaritic respectively, Phoenician will not do for the latter.
    Must be able to write grocery lists in Sumerian, I'm alright with her only knowing 5000 signs.
    Has on foot traveled from Byzantium to Qashghar but should be fine with being a stay-at-home wife.
    Must like camels, big deal breaker for me if she can't identify her wild from her domesticated Bactrians though obviously her preference should be for a good breed of dromedary.
     
    I think it's a reasonable list of expectations.
    Iltimas-e Dua
    Wassalam
  15. My Prayers
    Ibn Al-Ja'abi got a reaction from notme in The Dream Women - In my opinion   
    Salams,
    Some important things for me:
    Can reconstruct the asānīd of Tafsīr al-Ayyāshī.
    Has strong opinions about the primacy of existence vs the primacy of essence.
    Has written at least 5 articles about inductive reasoning.
    Has memorized and can tell the etymology of the hapax legomena of the Qur'an.
    Some experience with Canaanite epigraphy.
    A working knowledge of classical Syriac and classical Tibetan. Obviously, though, I'd like her to only speak to our children in Old Arabic, I'll let her choose the variety.
    Can imitate Ciceronian clauses in the Latin.
    Was there for the Nag Hammadi discovery — though ideally my age or younger.
    Has memorized both Aristotle's corpus and the Baal cycle in Greek and Ugaritic respectively, Phoenician will not do for the latter.
    Must be able to write grocery lists in Sumerian, I'm alright with her only knowing 5000 signs.
    Has on foot traveled from Byzantium to Qashghar but should be fine with being a stay-at-home wife.
    Must like camels, big deal breaker for me if she can't identify her wild from her domesticated Bactrians though obviously her preference should be for a good breed of dromedary.
     
    I think it's a reasonable list of expectations.
    Iltimas-e Dua
    Wassalam
  16. Haha
    Ibn Al-Ja'abi got a reaction from starlight in The Dream Women - In my opinion   
    Salams,
    Some important things for me:
    Can reconstruct the asānīd of Tafsīr al-Ayyāshī.
    Has strong opinions about the primacy of existence vs the primacy of essence.
    Has written at least 5 articles about inductive reasoning.
    Has memorized and can tell the etymology of the hapax legomena of the Qur'an.
    Some experience with Canaanite epigraphy.
    A working knowledge of classical Syriac and classical Tibetan. Obviously, though, I'd like her to only speak to our children in Old Arabic, I'll let her choose the variety.
    Can imitate Ciceronian clauses in the Latin.
    Was there for the Nag Hammadi discovery — though ideally my age or younger.
    Has memorized both Aristotle's corpus and the Baal cycle in Greek and Ugaritic respectively, Phoenician will not do for the latter.
    Must be able to write grocery lists in Sumerian, I'm alright with her only knowing 5000 signs.
    Has on foot traveled from Byzantium to Qashghar but should be fine with being a stay-at-home wife.
    Must like camels, big deal breaker for me if she can't identify her wild from her domesticated Bactrians though obviously her preference should be for a good breed of dromedary.
     
    I think it's a reasonable list of expectations.
    Iltimas-e Dua
    Wassalam
  17. Thanks
    Ibn Al-Ja'abi got a reaction from Ibn al-Hussain in The Dream Women - In my opinion   
    Salams,
    Some important things for me:
    Can reconstruct the asānīd of Tafsīr al-Ayyāshī.
    Has strong opinions about the primacy of existence vs the primacy of essence.
    Has written at least 5 articles about inductive reasoning.
    Has memorized and can tell the etymology of the hapax legomena of the Qur'an.
    Some experience with Canaanite epigraphy.
    A working knowledge of classical Syriac and classical Tibetan. Obviously, though, I'd like her to only speak to our children in Old Arabic, I'll let her choose the variety.
    Can imitate Ciceronian clauses in the Latin.
    Was there for the Nag Hammadi discovery — though ideally my age or younger.
    Has memorized both Aristotle's corpus and the Baal cycle in Greek and Ugaritic respectively, Phoenician will not do for the latter.
    Must be able to write grocery lists in Sumerian, I'm alright with her only knowing 5000 signs.
    Has on foot traveled from Byzantium to Qashghar but should be fine with being a stay-at-home wife.
    Must like camels, big deal breaker for me if she can't identify her wild from her domesticated Bactrians though obviously her preference should be for a good breed of dromedary.
     
    I think it's a reasonable list of expectations.
    Iltimas-e Dua
    Wassalam
  18. Like
    Ibn Al-Ja'abi got a reaction from AStruggler in The Dream Women - In my opinion   
    Salams,
    Some important things for me:
    Can reconstruct the asānīd of Tafsīr al-Ayyāshī.
    Has strong opinions about the primacy of existence vs the primacy of essence.
    Has written at least 5 articles about inductive reasoning.
    Has memorized and can tell the etymology of the hapax legomena of the Qur'an.
    Some experience with Canaanite epigraphy.
    A working knowledge of classical Syriac and classical Tibetan. Obviously, though, I'd like her to only speak to our children in Old Arabic, I'll let her choose the variety.
    Can imitate Ciceronian clauses in the Latin.
    Was there for the Nag Hammadi discovery — though ideally my age or younger.
    Has memorized both Aristotle's corpus and the Baal cycle in Greek and Ugaritic respectively, Phoenician will not do for the latter.
    Must be able to write grocery lists in Sumerian, I'm alright with her only knowing 5000 signs.
    Has on foot traveled from Byzantium to Qashghar but should be fine with being a stay-at-home wife.
    Must like camels, big deal breaker for me if she can't identify her wild from her domesticated Bactrians though obviously her preference should be for a good breed of dromedary.
     
    I think it's a reasonable list of expectations.
    Iltimas-e Dua
    Wassalam
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    Ibn Al-Ja'abi got a reaction from Ashvazdanghe in Founder of christanity?   
    The phrase ο υιος του ανθρωπου/filius hominis being interpreted as a contrast with the son of God in order to reference Jesus' human nature is a traditional interpretation, but a simpler explanation might be more appropriate. The phrase is a translation of the Aramaic phrase bar-ěnāš/barnāš, barnāšā (ܒܪ ܐܢܫܐ، בַר אֱנָשׁ)which just meant "a man" in general or "someone", perhaps it can be equated to the Arabic word fulān (so-and-so) and perhaps even the English saying "John Q. Citizen" to refer to someone in general. You can read the full definition of this Aramaic phrase with reference to works in Jewish Aramaic dialects and Classical Syriac. It just seems to be an Aramaism the authors of the Gospels translated verbatim into Greek, which isn't strange seeing the sort of Semitic idiom NT Greek is often in.
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    Ibn Al-Ja'abi got a reaction from Mahdavist in shahadat e salisa   
    Salams,
    This hadith is what you base your above argument on and you are manifestly wrong here unfortunately misunderstanding the Arabic. That isn't what the hadith says, the correct translation would be:
    Al-Halabi asked him (as): "Do I name the Imams in the Salat?" He (عليه السلام) said: "Collectively."
    جمُل يجمُل جمالاً is a stative verb and is therefore intransitive, its imperative is "be handsome" you can't say "be handsome them". This verb is جمَل يجمُل جملاً, meaning "to summarize" or "collect [of a thing]", which is transitive and can take the direct object of "-hum". The meaning of this hadith is corroborated with another hadith, both narrated together as their own chapter in Wasa'il al-Shi'a by Sh. al-Hurr al-Amili:
    (7982) 2 - وبإسناده عن الحسين بن سعيد عن فضالة بن أيوب عن أبان عن عبيد الله الحلبي قال في قنوت الجمعة اللهم صل على محمد وعلى أئمة المؤمنين (1) اللهم اجعلني ممن خلقته لدينك وممن خلقت لجنتك قلت أسمي الأئمة؟ قال سمهم جملة.
    Al-Halabi said in the qunuut of Jumu'ah: "God, send blessings upon Muhammad and the Imams of the believers. God, make me one whom you created for your religion, and one whom you created for your paradise." I asked: "Do I name the Imams?" He (عليه السلام) said: "Name them collectively".
    If you wished to make this a general principle in prayer then the hadith isn't saying to mention the Imams beautifully but collectively, so advising you not to name the individual Imams going against naming Imam Ali in specific in qunuut. Obviously it's referring to a qunuut in specific, though.
    The issue is you are taking general hadith about how the three shahadahs are to be part of our faith and trying to apply them to a specific instance of them being part of our prayers, which they clearly can't be proven to be -- especially in light of contradictory ahadith which talk specifically about the tashahhud being of two shahadas and being of an even number, etc., you also apply what are very specific ahadith about one aspect of the prayer retroactively to the whole prayer not considering the context of the hadith, which, if you knew Arabic you wouldn't so erroneously do.
    Summarily, the ahadith indicate the base for the tashahhud is two, not three shahadahs and do enjoin us to name the Imams beautifully. Beyond that, the above post to which I'm responding shows why google translate isn't enough, it couldn't analyze the lemmata we were discussing -- if you used it -- and didn't know if this verb was transitive or intransitive (laazim or muta'addi) having you base your whole argument around a misunderstanding and mistranslation.
    Iltimas e Dua
    wassalam
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    Ibn Al-Ja'abi got a reaction from Mahdavist in shahadat e salisa   
    As much as I don't agree with the opinion of Syed Naqvi I'm not sure what's the point of stooping so low and making such a childish post. This isn't your first such post here or elsewhere as well. Acting sanctimonious and supreme to someone you perceive as wrong accomplishes what exactly? Releases some impulse?
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    Ibn Al-Ja'abi got a reaction from Hameedeh in shahadat e salisa   
    Salams,
    This hadith is what you base your above argument on and you are manifestly wrong here unfortunately misunderstanding the Arabic. That isn't what the hadith says, the correct translation would be:
    Al-Halabi asked him (as): "Do I name the Imams in the Salat?" He (عليه السلام) said: "Collectively."
    جمُل يجمُل جمالاً is a stative verb and is therefore intransitive, its imperative is "be handsome" you can't say "be handsome them". This verb is جمَل يجمُل جملاً, meaning "to summarize" or "collect [of a thing]", which is transitive and can take the direct object of "-hum". The meaning of this hadith is corroborated with another hadith, both narrated together as their own chapter in Wasa'il al-Shi'a by Sh. al-Hurr al-Amili:
    (7982) 2 - وبإسناده عن الحسين بن سعيد عن فضالة بن أيوب عن أبان عن عبيد الله الحلبي قال في قنوت الجمعة اللهم صل على محمد وعلى أئمة المؤمنين (1) اللهم اجعلني ممن خلقته لدينك وممن خلقت لجنتك قلت أسمي الأئمة؟ قال سمهم جملة.
    Al-Halabi said in the qunuut of Jumu'ah: "God, send blessings upon Muhammad and the Imams of the believers. God, make me one whom you created for your religion, and one whom you created for your paradise." I asked: "Do I name the Imams?" He (عليه السلام) said: "Name them collectively".
    If you wished to make this a general principle in prayer then the hadith isn't saying to mention the Imams beautifully but collectively, so advising you not to name the individual Imams going against naming Imam Ali in specific in qunuut. Obviously it's referring to a qunuut in specific, though.
    The issue is you are taking general hadith about how the three shahadahs are to be part of our faith and trying to apply them to a specific instance of them being part of our prayers, which they clearly can't be proven to be -- especially in light of contradictory ahadith which talk specifically about the tashahhud being of two shahadas and being of an even number, etc., you also apply what are very specific ahadith about one aspect of the prayer retroactively to the whole prayer not considering the context of the hadith, which, if you knew Arabic you wouldn't so erroneously do.
    Summarily, the ahadith indicate the base for the tashahhud is two, not three shahadahs and do enjoin us to name the Imams beautifully. Beyond that, the above post to which I'm responding shows why google translate isn't enough, it couldn't analyze the lemmata we were discussing -- if you used it -- and didn't know if this verb was transitive or intransitive (laazim or muta'addi) having you base your whole argument around a misunderstanding and mistranslation.
    Iltimas e Dua
    wassalam
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    Ibn Al-Ja'abi got a reaction from AStruggler in shahadat e salisa   
    As much as I don't agree with the opinion of Syed Naqvi I'm not sure what's the point of stooping so low and making such a childish post. This isn't your first such post here or elsewhere as well. Acting sanctimonious and supreme to someone you perceive as wrong accomplishes what exactly? Releases some impulse?
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    Ibn Al-Ja'abi got a reaction from Muslim2010 in shahadat e salisa   
    As much as I don't agree with the opinion of Syed Naqvi I'm not sure what's the point of stooping so low and making such a childish post. This isn't your first such post here or elsewhere as well. Acting sanctimonious and supreme to someone you perceive as wrong accomplishes what exactly? Releases some impulse?
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    Ibn Al-Ja'abi got a reaction from haideriam in shahadat e salisa   
    Salams
    It's funny that you find the need to play detective with the ahadith and the opinions of the qudama when we have rather explicit traditions and statements regarding the form of the tashahhud. I wonder how you square this hadith:
    * (380) * 148 - وعنه عن أبي محمد الحجال عن علي عن عبيد عن يعقوب ابن شعيب عن أبي عبد الله عليه السلام قال: التشهد في كتاب علي عليه السلام شفع.
    Imam al-Sadiq (as): "The tashahhud in the Book of Ali is of an even number."
    (Tahdhiib al-Ahkaam of Sh. al-Tuusi)
    I guess that specifically excludes there being a shahadat al-thalitha in tashahhud. What can be expected, you're going off that crackpot shahadat e salisa website undoubtedly and admit to using google translate so are incredibly limited in the sources you're able to access for researching this. You're certainly not relying on any mainstream opinion, and certainly not taking into consideration what we have explicitly said in our ahadith, not this detective nonsense which is completely unnecessary in this instance.
    wassalam
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