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Salam Aleikum everyone. I do not yet have any view on the topic of tahreef as of yet. I see each side giving good points. There is a pdf article on hubeali that discusses and attempts to prove tahreef. http://hubeali.co.uk/articles/True-Shia-Beliefs-in-Quran-Majeed.pdf If anyone has something to say about it, I would like to hear it. Wassalam.

Go. Please, stop responding, there's no need for me to read your utter nonsense which has absolutely no basis in the teachings of our imams(as). "They are the most truthful", "They are the most knowledgeable". Bravo. Thumbs up. .... .... Bye.

Subhanallah. After reading this, I decide not to go any further, because I can not even bear speaking to someone with this complete level of ignorance. You can call me names as much as you want, and call me a hypocrite, but if a hadith means absolutely zero to you, then that is a complete loss, as you no longer are holding on to the thaqalayan anyway. I know you said not to share any hadiths, as it hurts your feelings (or so it seems?), but just allow this one: أحمد بن محمد بن خالد البرقي في ) المحاسن ( عن أبيه ، عن يونس بن عبد الرحمن ، عن عمرو بن شمر ، عن [ جابر ، عن أبي جعفر ) عليه السلام ( ، قال : سارعوا في طلب العلم ، فوالذي نفسي بيده لحديث واحد تأخذه عن صادق ، خير من الدنيا وما حملت من ذهب وفضة . الحديث . ...From Abi Ja'afar(as), he said: "Hasten in seeking knowledge, by the one in whose hand is my soul, a single hadith that you take from a truthful is better than this world and what it holds of gold and silver." I really despise your method, only gives me shivers when I read such statements like the ones you are making, without any due respect.

The hadith is found in "Misbahul Faqaha" by Sayed Khoui, and according to him, it is a "riwaya Saheeha". Lol you clearly don't know Arabic. The word is "Ya'khoth min", which means "Take from". i.e to shorten it from the front. Committing bid'ha? Please, don't make a fool of yourself. You likely don't even know what a bid'ha is. Wow. You're really taking Imam al-Hujja's orders seriously. He told you to refer to the narrators of AhlulBayt's hadiths. Not blindly follow the verdicts of one scholar. Anyways, I will not debate this topic again, with you especially, due to your above average ignorance and unwillingness to accept any hadith unless it agrees with your personal opinion and rationality, and your obsession with al-islam.org articles, which usually don't prove anything new at all. So, I will not even bother with you. :) Mustache is not considered front. The mustache is "Shawareb". The "Front" refers to the chin area. قال الشيخ الحر العاملي في كتابه ( وسائل الشيعة٢/١١٢ ):هذا محمول على عدم الزيادة على قبضة Sheikh Hurr al-Amili said in his book "Wasa'el ul-Shia Vol.2 p. 112: "This (not taking from the beard from the front) is applicable when the beard does not exceed fist's length". Huh? What are you talking about? Wassalam.

The fatwas by Sayed Sistani on the links don't say that it's allowed to keep a short beard. Anyhow.... صحيحة البزنطي عن الرضا (عليه السلام): وسألته عن الرجل هل يصلح له ان يأخذ من لحيته؟ قال: أما من عارضيه فلا بأس وأما من مقدمها فلا. Sahih (hadith) of al-Bizanti, from al-Rida(as): And I asked him about the man, is it fine for him to take(trim) of his beard?, he said: "As for the sides(or cheeks), then no problem, and as for the front, then no". This applies only when the beard is less than the fist's width, because a hadith from imam ja'afar al-sadiq(as) also says that it's not allowed for the beard to be longer than fist's width. (This is how Sheikh al-Hurr al-Amili(ra) explained the hadith also, i.e you can not trim the beard from the front, except when it extends beyond the maximum length). Wassalam.

Bro this topic has been discussed time and time again on this forum. Where you been?

I normally get full on 2 bouls of soup and some salad. But I always eat ice cream after I pray and read du'a.

The Quran is clear that supplication is to be made to Allah only.

Reading this is quite laughable now. :)

The right path is with the Quran and AhlulBayt, al-Thaqalayn.

How is giving hadiths not a refutation? Where do you get your religion from?

^What are you trying to prove? You're probably some Ansorry who just made a new account to spam. I can smell it.

The imams(as) told us clearly that Abu Bakr was a disbeliever. Do we need more?

No, it is not. Listening to him will benefit you and wake you up a little. His political views are unrelated.

With all due respect, dear PureEthics, we don't really take your opinions and rationality over the imams(as). So, I think you're just wasting your time around here. Salam.