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Assad91

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  1. i said to ask for other than Allah for intercession.

     

    39:44 Say, "To Allah belongs intercession entirely. "

     

    are you going to keep on ignoring the verses again? and call me wahabi because i don't?

    Nice try. But you alreay posted this verse. It went like;

    39:44 Say, "To Allah belongs [the right to allow] intercession entirely. To Him belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth. Then to Him you will be returned.

     

    Yeah. I like what you tried to do there. Pretty decieving.

  2. those verses clearly talk about ANY other than Allah. because Allah has no partners.

     

    as soon as somebody calls upon more than One they are technically polytheists , even if they don't mean it. and if they don't mean it then may Allah forgive them in sha Allah

     

    there is not ONE shred of evidence in the quran suggesting that we should call upon others than Allah or do duas to other, or ask for intercession to anybody except to Allah.

     

     

    just saying that one is monotheist doesn't have to be true. actions speak louder than words.

    Actually, you posted two verses that do attest to the fact that intercession is real and possible.

     

    You have a similar belief as the wahabis. To go so far to even say askig for intercession is shirk.

    Its a sad day when a Shia sounds more like a wahabi

     

    Ya Ali Madad

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    And those you call upon besides Him are unable to help you, nor can they help themselves." 7:197

     

    Say, "Invoke those you have claimed [as gods] besides Him, for they do not possess the [ability for] removal of adversity from you or [for its] transfer [to someone else]." 17:56

     

    Those whom they invoke seek means of access to their Lord, [striving as to] which of them would be nearest, and they hope for His mercy and fear His punishment. Indeed, the punishment of your Lord is ever feared. 17:57

     

    Indeed, those you [polytheists] call upon besides Allah are servants like you. So call upon them and let them respond to you, if you should be truthful. 7:194

    No contradition as these verses are for thhe polytheist and those who comit shirk.

     

     

     

     And intercession does not benefit with Him except for one whom He permits. [And those wait] until, when terror is removed from their hearts, they will say [to one another], "What has your Lord said?" They will say, "The truth." And He is the Most High, the Grand. 34:23

     

    39:44 Say, "To Allah belongs [the right to allow] intercession entirely. To Him belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth. Then to Him you will be returned.

    As I believe in wilayat, I see no cotradiction once again.As I go off the assumption Allah has given th right to interession to Amir al Momineen, the Propeht and all of the Imams.

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    The question is ,can Ali override what Allah has decreed for us in a test ?

     

     

    Salam.

    I hope you don't mind me deleating some of your post I am not respoding to. THis is just tomake sure to easily follow.

     

    As to your question. I don't think so. Ali (as) is Amir al Momineen, and infallible. But he is not Allah. His intercession, is like my intercession for you, except sweeter. For he is much closer to Allah then I will ever be

  5. wilaya is discussed in the quran and i have studied each verse about it alhamdulilah.

     

    for somebody like me who believes in all of the quran, i think it's a weird question to pose.

     

     

    it is you who doesn't accept some verses in the quran

    Thanks for the dirty accusation.

     

    Isn't control over things that usually Allah is over control, by the imams? Thats part of wilayat. So how do you disagree with the fatwa?

     

     

    Read under number 2 http://www.al-islam.org/wilayat/7.htm

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    Assad91:

     

    • the angels come to you
    • they ask: "why did you pray and make duas to imam ali when the quran says only to do that to Allah, and most all hadiths as well"?
    • you would say " ___________________"

     

    You seem to think I pray to Imam Ali as if he is Allah, astigfurllah. No. I say Ya Ali Madad, in hopes of intercession in times of trouble.

  6. So, do you believe in Wilayat?


    we are not to speak from our own opinions alone, but based on quran and hadiths that are in line with quran.

     

    duas are for Allah and only Allah

     

     

    :wub: اللَّهُمَّ صَلِّ عَلَى مُحَمَّدٍ وآلِ مُحَمَّدٍ وعَجِّلْ فَرَجَهُمْ    :wub: 

     

    fi aman ilah 
     

    (wasalam)

    I think you may have missed somethings.

     

     

     

     

    The Meaning of YA ALI  (as) MADAD A few things should be made clear upon you:

    1. Allah ÓÈÍÇäå æÊÚÇáì has bestowed the highest status upon: the Holy Prophet of Islam, all other Prophets (Peace Be Upon Them), Imam Ali  (as), and the rest of the infallibles  (as). Allah ÓÈÍÇäå æÊÚÇáì has bestowed upon them the highest jurisdictions and in this there is no doubt amongst any of the Shia and there should not be any doubt. The details of these jurisdictions and explanations of the fixing of the boundaries are above the intellectual understanding of any normal person. However, the infallibles  (as) in some of the traditions have indicated towards this meaning, so in the truth of the Ahlul Bait  (as), we should not get entangled in disbelief or claims of deficiency and defectiveness of the Ahlul Bait  (as), and neither in the greatness (nature, power) of Allah ÓÈÍÇäå æÊÚÇáì Almighty. We should not unnecessarily transgress and pass the prescribed limits.

    2. Those personalities (entities) which we have mentioned above are the selected people of Allah ÓÈÍÇäå æÊÚÇáì. That honor which they have obtained has only been obtained with the devotion of Allah ÓÈÍÇäå æÊÚÇáì.

    3. (4) Allah ÓÈÍÇäå æÊÚÇáì has kept some of the jurisdictions in His hand and has not consigned these to anybody else other than Himself. In this, there is life and death, creation and demission, and rizq.

    4. If somebody himself says that those things which have been mentioned before are not in the hands of Allah ÓÈÍÇäå æÊÚÇáì, then he implies that we have retired Allah ÓÈÍÇäå æÊÚÇáì Almighty (Astagh Firullah). One should remember that the creator of these personalities (entities) is only Him. The creator of the (1) master of the universe Imam Ali  (as) and the creator of the milk in the chest of his blessed and purified mother was only Allah ÓÈÍÇäå æÊÚÇáì Almighty. May it be known that Allah ÓÈÍÇäå æÊÚÇáì has never retired nor shall He ever retire!

    5. (2) Allah ÓÈÍÇäå æÊÚÇáì has ordered us that we seek our needs from the aforementioned entities, that we ask for our needs from Him, and that we give for the sake of those infallibles. When we all say YA ALI  (as) MADAD, this does not proclaim the belief of any Muslim that Allah ÓÈÍÇäå æÊÚÇáì has retired (Astagh Firullah) or that Allah ÓÈÍÇäå æÊÚÇáì has become old (Al Ayaazo Billah) or that someone has deprived Allah ÓÈÍÇäå æÊÚÇáì from him His jurisdictions through elections or an army revolution (Astagh Firullah) or that someone has cheated Allah ÓÈÍÇäå æÊÚÇáì (Astagh Firullah) or that someone has deceived Allah ÓÈÍÇäå æÊÚÇáì and snatched from Him His jurisdictions (Al Ayaazo Billah). The essence of Allah ÓÈÍÇäå æÊÚÇáì and any of His attributes to have any kind of alteration in this belief is equal and parallel to Kufr (disbelief). We give for the sake of the infallibles and ask for Dua (prayers); this is the meaning of YA ALI  (as) MADAD. When you ask for help from anybody, you hope that he helps and supports you in accordance to one’s own power. Allah ÓÈÍÇäå æÊÚÇáì Almighty has given the Prophet of Allah ÓÈÍÇäå æÊÚÇáì, Janab-e-Zahra (SA), and all of the infallibles the power of victory to support His Shia. (3) This power is in their intercession, in which they do dua (prayer) for all of their Shia and they ask forgiveness for them and they fulfill the requirement from Allah ÓÈÍÇäå æÊÚÇáì. This is the meaning of YA ALI  (as) MADAD.

    The Office of The Grand Ayatollah Al Uzma Sheikh Basheer Hussain Najafi

    Najaf e Ashraf

    Iraq

  7. thanks brother mutazili(wasil)

     

    i strive and hope to be among the shias in sha Allah.

     

    thank you for your kind words brother,

     

     

     

    :wub: اللَّهُمَّ صَلِّ عَلَى مُحَمَّدٍ وآلِ مُحَمَّدٍ وعَجِّلْ فَرَجَهُمْ  :wub: 

     

     

    fi aman ilah 
     

    (wasalam)

     

    Brother the reason i ignored some, is because i don't like delving too much into falsehood.

     

    you want a bit more?

     

     

    again outrageous comments, may Allah forgive and guide us all!!!

     

    what about 

     

    lahu ma fi samawaat wal ard?

     

    what about 

     

    la hawla walaqowata ila bilah "There is no might nor power except in Allah."

     

     

    there is not point in discussing any further about posts that are purely some peoples opinions, without any backup.

     

     

    claiming that Allah only has some jurisdiction, means he is having some partner (sharikto share his jurisdiction with or? isn't that pure and utter shirq??

     

     

     

    in all due respect it is our duty to point out falsehood according to Quran and Ahlul Bayt, without anger, but with evidence and logic based on evidence. 

     

     

     

    :wub: اللَّهُمَّ صَلِّ عَلَى مُحَمَّدٍ وآلِ مُحَمَّدٍ وعَجِّلْ فَرَجَهُمْ   :wub: 

     

     

    fi aman ilah 
     

    (wasalam)

    Please, qoute the whole thing and highlight that which you have a problem with

  8. Here is a good explanation of Ya Ali (as) Madad

     

     

    The Meaning of YA ALI (AS) MADAD A few things should be made clear upon you:

    1. Allah (SWT) has bestowed the highest status upon: the Holy Prophet of Islam, all other Prophets (Peace Be Upon Them), Imam Ali (AS), and the rest of the infallibles (AS). Allah (SWT) has bestowed upon them the highest jurisdictions and in this there is no doubt amongst any of the Shia and there should not be any doubt. The details of these jurisdictions and explanations of the fixing of the boundaries are above the intellectual understanding of any normal person. However, the infallibles (AS) in some of the traditions have indicated towards this meaning, so in the truth of the Ahlul Bait (AS), we should not get entangled in disbelief or claims of deficiency and defectiveness of the Ahlul Bait (AS), and neither in the greatness (nature, power) of Allah (SWT) Almighty. We should not unnecessarily transgress and pass the prescribed limits.

    2. Those personalities (entities) which we have mentioned above are the selected people of Allah (SWT). That honor which they have obtained has only been obtained with the devotion of Allah (SWT).

    3. Allah (SWT) has kept some of the jurisdictions in His hand and has not consigned these to anybody else other than Himself. In this, there is life and death, creation and demission, and rizq.

    4. If somebody himself says that those things which have been mentioned before are not in the hands of Allah (SWT), then he implies that we have retired Allah (SWT) Almighty (Astagh Firullah). One should remember that the creator of these personalities (entities) is only Him. The creator of the master of the universe Imam Ali (AS) and the creator of the milk in the chest of his blessed and purified mother was only Allah (SWT) Almighty. May it be known that Allah (SWT) has never retired nor shall He ever retire!

    5. Allah (SWT) has ordered us that we seek our needs from the aforementioned entities, that we ask for our needs from Him, and that we give for the sake of those infallibles. When we all say YA ALI (AS) MADAD, this does not proclaim the belief of any Muslim that Allah (SWT) has retired (Astagh Firullah) or that Allah (SWT) has become old (Al Ayaazo Billah) or that someone has deprived Allah (SWT) from him His jurisdictions through elections or an army revolution (Astagh Firullah) or that someone has cheated Allah (SWT) (Astagh Firullah) or that someone has deceived Allah (SWT) and snatched from Him His jurisdictions (Al Ayaazo Billah). The essence of Allah (SWT) and any of His attributes to have any kind of alteration in this belief is equal and parallel to Kufr (disbelief). We give for the sake of the infallibles and ask for Dua (prayers); this is the meaning of YA ALI (AS) MADAD. When you ask for help from anybody, you hope that he helps and supports you in accordance to one’s own power. Allah (SWT) Almighty has given the Prophet of Allah (SWT), Janab-e-Zahra (SA), and all of the infallibles the power of victory to support His Shia. This power is in their intercession, in which they do dua (prayer) for all of their Shia and they ask forgiveness for them and they fulfill the requirement from Allah (SWT). This is the meaning of YA ALI (AS) MADAD.

    The Office of The Grand Ayatollah Al Uzma Sheikh Basheer Hussain Najafi

    Najaf e Ashraf

    Iraq

    http://www.alnajafi.org/questions-and-answers/41-aqeedah/55-question-on-ya-ali-madad.html

  9. Still, why is it the most said?

    I have nothing against it, and say it myself.

     

    I am just wondering if there is a hadith or anything on the status of Ali and his help


    You are forgiven bruddaah :P I'm kidding, no need to apologise Habibbi!

    That's a good question. Shias tend to have an obsession with Imām Ali [a] more than any other member of the Ahl al-Bayt [a] so perhaps that is why.

    Well Imam Ali (as) is the Gate of knowledge, the Lion of Allah and of course Waliyyullah, Hajuttulah but most exclusivly Amir ul Momineen 

  10. Were those specific officers in crime of anything besides being police? Were they specific individuals who have hurt civilian protesters? Damage to the property of the regime as well as damage to any surrounding areas including civilians would be a sin. If the police were guilty of any crime, they should be tried in court and if proven guilty of any heinous crime then should be dealt with via Sharia. I sound like a human being.

    It'd be a son to attack the property of the regime?
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