Assad91

Nice try. But you alreay posted this verse. It went like; 39:44 Say, "To Allah belongs [the right to allow] intercession entirely. To Him belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth. Then to Him you will be returned. Yeah. I like what you tried to do there. Pretty decieving.

Actually, you posted two verses that do attest to the fact that intercession is real and possible. You have a similar belief as the wahabis. To go so far to even say askig for intercession is shirk. Its a sad day when a Shia sounds more like a wahabi Ya Ali Madad

No contradition as these verses are for thhe polytheist and those who comit shirk. As I believe in wilayat, I see no cotradiction once again.As I go off the assumption Allah has given th right to interession to Amir al Momineen, the Propeht and all of the Imams.

Salam. I hope you don't mind me deleating some of your post I am not respoding to. THis is just tomake sure to easily follow. As to your question. I don't think so. Ali (as) is Amir al Momineen, and infallible. But he is not Allah. His intercession, is like my intercession for you, except sweeter. For he is much closer to Allah then I will ever be

lol this is too funny

Thanks for the dirty accusation. Isn't control over things that usually Allah is over control, by the imams? Thats part of wilayat. So how do you disagree with the fatwa? Read under number 2 http://www.al-islam.org/wilayat/7.htm " You seem to think I pray to Imam Ali as if he is Allah, astigfurllah. No. I say Ya Ali Madad, in hopes of intercession in times of trouble.

If you believed in Wilayat then you would have no problem and would undestand the fatwa better. I'd go on a limb and guess you don't believe in Wilayat.

I think it is relevant to know if you believe in wilayat

Do you believe in Wilayat?

So, do you believe in Wilayat? I think you may have missed somethings.

Even if Osama bin Laden (la) didn't do 9/11 he still endosed killing muslims. Innocet and pure? Ha! What a joke

Please, qoute the whole thing and highlight that which you have a problem with

Brother, I enjoyed how you totally ignorred eveything and just copied what you wished out of context. Look, we won't agree. And as you can go to page 1 and see, I created this thread for something else. Not to argue on the permissability of Ya Ali Madad. Salam

Here is a good explanation of Ya Ali (as) Madad http://www.alnajafi.org/questions-and-answers/41-aqeedah/55-question-on-ya-ali-madad.html

I am sadden to see such [Edited Out] being pushed in my thread. Ya Ali (as) madad, is shirk? This is not true. Ya Ali Madad os said with the intention of seeking wasila. Nothing is done without the permission of Allah (swt)