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Ali Naqi

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  1. Isn't that quite obvious, Muslims are attacking muslims. In Pakistan, Iraq and other countries. And is obvious the Wahabi's are the enemies of Shia's and the Ahlulbayt [a] .
  2. I'm not saying kill everybody and anybody. But rather than looking for calm and unity appropriate measures should be taken to put a stop to these atrocities. I will not argue any further Ya Ali Madad
  3. If it's the same, then why look for unity with such people who follow people like Umar [la]. http://www.al-islam.org/nahj/ Link to 'Arabi text SERMON 3 Known as the Sermon of ash-Shiqshiqiyyah(1) Beware! By Allah the son of Abu Quhafah (Abu Bakr)(2) dressed himself with it (the caliphate) and he certainly knew that my position in relation to it was the same as the position of the axis in relation to the hand-mill. The flood water flows down from me and the bird cannot fly upto me. I put a curtain against the caliphate and kept myself detached from it. Then I began to think whether I should assault or endure calmly the blinding darkness of tribulations wherein the grown up are made feeble and the young grow old and the true believer acts under strain till he meets Allah (on his death). I found that endurance thereon was wiser. So I adopted patience although there was [Edited Out]ing in the eye and suffocation (of mortification) in the throat. I watched the plundering of my inheritance till the first one went his way but handed over the Caliphate to Ibn al-Khattab after himself. (Then he quoted al-A`sha's verse). My days are now passed on the camel's back (in difficulty) while there were days (of ease) when I enjoyed the company of Jabir's brother Hayyan.(3) It is strange that during his lifetime he wished to be released from the caliphate but he confirmed it for the other one after his death. No doubt these two shared its udders strictly among themselves. This one put the Caliphate in a tough enclosure where the utterance was haughty and the touch was rough. Mistakes were in plenty and so also the excuses therefore. One in contact with it was like the rider of an unruly camel. If he pulled up its rein the very nostril would be slit, but if he let it loose he would be thrown. Consequently, by Allah people got involved in recklessness, wickedness, unsteadiness and deviation. Nevertheless, I remained patient despite length of period and stiffness of trial, till when he went his way (of death) he put the matter (of Caliphate) in a group(4) and regarded me to be one of them. But good Heavens! what had I to do with this "consultation"? Where was any doubt about me with regard to the first of them that I was now considered akin to these ones? But I remained low when they were low and flew high when they flew high. One of them turned against me because of his hatred and the other got inclined the other way due to his in-law relationship and this thing and that thing, till the third man of these people stood up with heaving breasts between his dung and fodder. With him his children of his grand-father, (Umayyah) also stood up swallowing up Allah's wealth(5) like a camel devouring the foliage of spring, till his rope broke down, his actions finished him and his gluttony brought him down prostrate. At that moment, nothing took me by surprise, but the crowd of people rushing to me. It advanced towards me from every side like the mane of the hyena so much so that Hasan and Husayn were getting crushed and both the ends of my shoulder garment were torn. They collected around me like the herd of sheep and goats. When I took up the reins of government one party broke away and another turned disobedient while the rest began acting wrongfully as if they had not heard the word of Allah saying: That abode in the hereafter, We assign it for those who intend not to exult themselves in the earth, nor (to make) mischief (therein); and the end is (best) for the pious ones. (Qur'an, 28:83) Yes, by Allah, they had heard it and understood it but the world appeared glittering in their eyes and its embellishments seduced them. Behold, by Him who split the grain (to grow) and created living beings, if people had not come to me and supporters had not exhausted the argument and if there had been no pledge of Allah with the learned to the effect that they should not acquiesce in the gluttony of the oppressor and the hunger of the oppressed I would have cast the rope of Caliphate on its own shoulders, and would have given the last one the same treatment as to the first one. Then you would have seen that in my view this world of yours is no better than the sneezing of a goat. (It is said that when Amir al-mu'minin reached here in his sermon a man of Iraq stood up and handed him over a writing. Amir al-mu'minin began looking at it, when Ibn `Abbas said, "O' Amir al-mu'minin, I wish you resumed your Sermon from where you broke it." Thereupon he replied, "O' Ibn `Abbas it was like the foam of a Camel which gushed out but subsided." Ibn `Abbas says that he never grieved over any utterance as he did over this one because Amir al-mu'minin could not finish it as he wished to.) ash-Sharif ar-Radi says: The words in this sermon "like the rider of a camel" mean to convey that when a camel rider is stiff in drawing up the rein then in this scuffle the nostril gets bruised, but if he lets it loose in spite of the camel's unruliness, it would throw him somewhere and would get out of control. "ashnaq an-naqah" is used when the rider holds up the rein and raises the camel's head upwards. In the same sense the word "shanaqa an-naqah" is used. Ibn as-Sikkit has mentioned this in Islah al-mantiq. Amir al-mu'minin has said "ashnaqa laha" instead of "ashnaqaha", this is because he has used this word in harmony with "aslasa laha" and harmony could be retained only by using both in the same form. Thus, Amir al-mu'minin has used "ashnaqa laha" as though in place of "in rafa`a laha ra'saha", that is, "if he stops it by holding up the reins." http://www.al-islam.org/nahjul/3.htm Posted to elaborate Hazrat Ali's stance on the "Khilafah" of Abu Bakr, Umar and Uthmaan in His own words and to minimise the chance of any misconception, miscomprehension, illusion, delusion, or any other form or class of misunderstanding. From another thread.
  4. How about that? Stance on anyone is the SAME!!! not less not more!!!
  5. DJ, every member has the right to make his point, give comments, and defend him/herself or his/her faith. It's got nothing to do with being a part of the team or not. I don't owe anyone an apology. Whatever the sentence meant by Shabbir the intentions were quite clear. We don't take Umar as the 2nd Kaliph you or him may do but we don't. Lowering yourself down to please others is just so ridicilous. You can carry on siding with 'sheikh' shabbir all you want. The truth is there can't be unity with people who openely (Zarqawi) declare war on Shia's. Shia's being the followers of the Ahlulbayt [a].
  6. Remember after the tragedy of Karbala, Mukhtar [a] killed the killers of Imam Hussain [a] in revenge, did our 4th Imam Ali Zain-ul-Abideen [a] forbid that. Infact the 4th Imam [a] smiled seeing the killers of his father have been killed by a loyal companion. In some circumstances you can be patient and some you need to stand up for yourself. What do you care, go please the enemies of Ahlulbayt [a].
  7. Have you heard about the damage caused to the Shrine of Al-Askari [a] grandson of the Prophet . I disagree with mosques being attacked in retaliation. But provocation by attacking the Imam's [a] shrine is much worse.
  8. Guy's back to the tragedy. Leave the issue at that. Lanat on the enemies of the Ahlulbayt [a]
  9. Why don't you get a grip. Your the one who's sickening by equalling Umar [la] to Imam Ali [a]. Calling yourself a shia and then equalling the one who burnt the house Sayyeda Zahra [a] to her husband Imam Ali [a] the Commander of all Faithfuls. All i can say for you is, May Allah guide you and give you the ability of understanding and identyfing the enemies of Ahlulbayt [a] BAR MUQASIREEN LANAT!!! BESHUMAR
  10. So your equalling Umar [la] to Imam Ali [a]. Astagfirullah.
  11. If Imam Hussain [a] wanted to save his life and his families and save the veils of the bibi's. He simply could of just accepted Yazeed and paid his allegiance to Yazeed. He could of done that if there was any hope of Yazeed making a good leader and doing everything according to Islamic Laws, and spreading Islam and preaching Islam. But, no the Imam [a] didn't do that, because he knew if i did, Islam's purpose would of finished few years down the line there would be no Islam. So therefore, he sacrificed himself and his family to save Islam and Humanity. We should be doing the same rise up against falsehood our enemies and save the ourselves from being oppressed day in and day out. Isn't it said stand up against oppression and stand beside the oppressed. Shabbir you just keep your wahabi friends happy. :D
  12. Shabbir why don't you REALISE this Our Imam's [a] and Shia's have been attacked by MUSLIMS over the 1400 years. Shia Books has given you God know's how many evidences Shia's being victims of wahabi's and other Muslims sects. REALISE THIS!!! Fine America might have a hand in this but if they have who has done it for them? who blew the blew shrine up ... MUSLIMS!!! CHEAP MUSLIMS!!! REALISE THIS!!! I don't understand what you looking for? UNITY? DREAM ON!!! UNITY WILL NEVER BE ACHIEVED UNTIL OUR IMAM [A] RETURNS.
  13. ^Imam Hussain's [a] shrine was attacked from inside too by Saddam's son, the bullet marks are still visible this day on the walls.
  14. ^ I understand you people seriously, whoelse is it going to be who attacked Imam Askri's [a] shrine, it's either the Americans themselves, or they paid a group (Sunni's or Wahabi's or even the Kurds). Or may it was the own will of a Muslim group. Come on it isn't that had to figure out. On small suicide bombings against Shia's us people are so quick to point on the criminals, but here oh no don't say its them or them we don't know for sure. Well done. It were these Muslims who betrayed our Imam's, It were these Muslim leaders who poinsoned and killed our Imams, it were these Muslims in Saudi who destroyed the shrines of our Sayyeda Zahra [a] and our beloved Imams. Now they wouldn't hesitate in doing the same to the shrine of Imam Askri [a]. Shabbir i just say you just stay at home sit on your backside and enjoy your popcorns.
  15. Saudi's didn't hesitate in destroying the Holy Graves in Jannat-ul-Baqee. They were Muslim's too.
  16. Unity with these people it's like accepting the allegiance of the Yazeedi's, which looks like shabbir has.
  17. Is it us Shia's who want disunity, is it us going out there killing innocent sunni's bombing their mosque's causing chaos on the streets. I don't think so Shabbir. It's always been from the opposite, whether they are Sunni's, Wahabi's, Jew's, Christains or whoever. Will you still hope for unity and calm when they attack our other shrines in Iraq. Will you still sit on your backsides and call for unity. There hasn't been unity over the 1400 years and there never will be till our 12th Imam returns. Stop dreaming and wake up to the reality.
  18. How on earth can you expect to have unity with people who are hurting you in every way they can. Killing shia's and now go over th limit and blast our Imam's shrine. How can there be national unity when every step is being taken to cause disunity. How are you going to achieve peace and calm where there is no hope of peace and unity. It's time WE take steps to put a stop to this. Otherwise, GOD forbid there will be a time the enemies will hurt us much more and most likely attack other shrines of our Imams thanks to our silence and hope for peace and calm. shabbir its time you just wake up to reality and think this properly. What would you do if someone hit your father right infront of you? Would you wait for your Marja's fatwa to be calm or retaliate. I don't think so. I respect the Marja's but there is a limit to everything. It's time marja's take the stand and do something about it rather than sitting in their rooms and call for calm. Ya Ali Madad
  19. I went to this march, it was an excellent march. The nareys were started off by the watford boys lol then after the chairman start sayin narey hayderis on odd occassions and also other people ... we also started the lanatssss lol surprisingly sunnis wiv massive beards were saying nareyz and some making faces lol like we care :P
  20. When reciting a noha with a tune of a song do use any instruments? Yes your hitting your chest (matam) not a drum stick on a drum. Why don't the recitors read the noha as if they are reading an essay? Will that be good enough for you. DJ the ijtehad of common sense.
  21. ok fair enough, but i have listened to some recitors who have not much but little tune to their recitation.
  22. By the way, don't proper good qur'an recitors read qur'an with tune .... ?
  23. You people just .... yeh whatever!!! Like someone already has said before in this thread, there is nothing wrong with reciting with tune. Or even creating a noha with a tune or with any song in the world. OK, tune in the noha catches the attention when someone's reciting it whats wrong with that? Atleast it catches the attention of someone to listen to the noha and the message in the noha. Noha with tune isn't a kind of a thing which will get you dancing or drive you away from the Imam Hussain [a] and his great sacrifice it will infact drag you closer to the message. I don't know why you people making a big issue out of it. You should be listening to the lyrics rather than making a mountain of a mole hill. And yeh give it a break ... for crying out load.
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