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Exactly like there is a vertical hierarchy too, but we digress

Cherub my brother I honestly thought you were a well read sunni bro. False and or wrong accusations is not having integrity for oneself in the first instance. And please Aqeel Gharavi is an Iraqi and an Hindustani, so Arabic and Urdu are his mother tongues. Though I could agree that he should not have used that word considering the audience. One cannot disseminate a higher level of ilm to students of a lower class' and where it causes confusion. He literally is a master of Urdu and Arabic lughat and connotations.

This is not Hussaini Azadari and is Yazeedi faction who celebrate, the victory of Yazeed really but call it, Hussani victory and not defeat. Our parents make mention of this in Karachi when they used to come from one of the side roads and try and merge with the main procession of Ashura but were not allowed to and eventually scattered once the whole of the procession had passed. If people ask their parents they will remember this from the 'Numaish' area/Lines Area of Karachi. Incidentally just looked on the map with my parents and notice that in that barren ground has sprouted a Jama Masjid

That is why we are to follow our marja. What they deem permissible is fine and there rests some duty on us too. Like speaking against and stopping a wrong but that does not mean that the practice in its' totality is wrong and should be avoided. Aza is a living dynamic institution. The walk, the matam the visitation have been encouraged as worthy of extra reward but we do not seek reward we seek Hussain(عليه السلام). And Hussain(عليه السلام) leads us to Allah(سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى). Would or could there be anything greater than that.

There is a hadith e qudsi in our books too and I remember this from Sheikh Farroh Sekaleshfar's lecture that Allah the most Glorious says that O ibn Adam when you kill your egoic self for Me then the blood money falls upon Me and so I become the eyes by which you see and become the tongue through which you talk and become the hands through which you do things etc and so much so that it is then I who takes your ruh when you die and not the angel of death. (Paraphrased as I remember) What one has to realize is that these attributes and functions fall in the vertical arch and in that

1. You take the cake my friend. This is rewriting history to prove a point. This is sinful, honest. 2. Sahih International: And [mention, O Muhammad], when Abraham was tried by his Lord with commands and he fulfilled them. [Allah] said, "Indeed, I will make you a leader for the people." [Abraham] said, "And of my descendants?" [Allah] said, "My covenant does not include the wrongdoers."

As predicted by a Bangladeshi Professor about Pakistan's Foreign Policy predicament in the following words: The Latest Geo Political Developments: "Pakistan is about to end its relations with Organization of Islamic Countries (OIC). Saudi Arabia presented a long list of conditions in front of Pakistan to fulfil which Pakistan has outrightly rejected. List includes: 1. Saudi Arabia wants Pakistan to close CPEC deal with China and move back to US camp and close relations with China. 2. Saudi Arabia wants Pakistan to stop all gas and economic cooperation with Iran and support UN

About the only withdrawal these scum have made is withdrawing the name of Yazeed(la) and replacing it with Umar. Don't worry about the hadith the names are more important. And what about Abu bakr the best amongst them. It is what they have learnt from their ideological masters/bed fellows. From Al Qaida to various factions to ISIS. From Wahabbi to Salafi to Deobandi to Ahle Hadith etc. The pattern is so visible.

May Allah(سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) bless you for being straight direct and yet not offensive. To the point.

@Marbles and DV or whatever his new nick is now We need your input plus of those in Pakistan

Brother kindly reread and understand and then you will realize that your above post makes no justification. You claimed and I never accused you, just asked for your evidence. Will not enter this territory(posts for the sake of them) as it is non productive. I think I respect yourself and myself enough to go there.

Brother Cherub The facts on the ground in the recent demonstrations prove otherwise. Anyway BTW you have provided no evidence and yet state that 'that's just a fact'. Secondly the people and or organisations you named previously are more peace advocates and non fitna mongers, the ones' who you stated got their funding from Iran. And there are many reasons some of which have been alluded to by brother Shiaman.

I always say that we should on these matters seek guidance from Najaf and Qum. That is where our authority resides and the limits and otherwise of the practice.

انا لله و انا اليه راجعون