baqar

Look at such absurdity. The fact that you are rejecting an absolute God, proves there is free will. How is there no free will, when the almighty Allah allows you to reject Him?

Prophet(s.w) did at Khaybar

Absolutely!

That is not right^
 
No one has the right  to take anyone's life for such reasons.  if someone leaves God's religion then that is between that person and God.   Why should everyone else get involved. it is no one's business.  
 
Let us use our common sense.  If you are in Iran, and someone is unhappy with Islam and renounces it, will you kill him?  What does your conscience tell you?  If you say yes, then understand that this is what is contributing to most of the problems in the world today.  People like you and those other scum of the earth (ISIS)

NEVER
 
Only if he commits a crime that draws a death sentence.
 
And in that case, he can receive a death sentence to be carried out by the state.  
 
Not by you or me.
 
 
Yes, until they do something specifically offensive. 
 
Unless they do something defined in Islamic law as a crime, they are innocent. 
 
And if they do commit an offence, then only an authorized court can deal with them.
 
No one else.  
 
 
 What is he guilty of ?
 
 
Not at all.
 
Never !
 
No, an apostate is a former Muslim who has left  Islam willingly, whatever his reasons may be.  
 
Every apostate is not guilty of a punishable offence, but only those who are guilty of treason.
 
I am not 100% sure but I think the death sentence applies for treason regardless whether you are an apostate or not.
 
In which case, a Muslim caught spying for an enemy nation could be charged with treason and sentenced to death.

That is fine, brother, but I honestly think that not giving a receipt is very slack.
 
It is simply not acceptable for a respectable religious organization or their representatives.
 
If I had that problem, I would chase them till the cows come home and if they give it to me after a reasonable length of time, I would definitely find someone else next year.

That excessive respect for Syed exists among Sunni Syeds, not Shia Syeds.    
 
Shia Syeds are regarded as Syeds also but nothing special like Sunni Syeds.
 
 
As  I said, no one feels terribly special about Shia Syeds.
 
That problem may be among Sunni Syeds, but not Shia Syeds.

Brother,  don't be scared.   You can do it.
 
I know it may be difficult. But just think how pleased God will be if you can do it.
 
Please try.
 
Life is hard and hard things require hard work.
 
Don't give up,
 
However hard your parents may be, when all your friends have failed you, your mother and father will still be there for you.
 
Believe me.
 
 
That may be your view but it may not be right.
 
As I said, start reading those two duas.
 
I am sure God wil help you.
 
Don't give up so easily.

Beg them humbly to forgive you Make sure your mistakes are never repeated again Make sure you are always kind and humble to them in the future Read Dua no. 24 of Saheefa-e-Sajjadia in Arabic and English every day Read Dua-s-Mashlool at least once a week 

Brother,  don't be scared.   You can do it.
 
I know it may be difficult. But just think how pleased God will be if you can do it.
 
Please try.
 
Life is hard and hard things require hard work.
 
Don't give up,
 
However hard your parents may be, when all your friends have failed you, your mother and father will still be there for you.
 
Believe me.
 
 
That may be your view but it may not be right.
 
As I said, start reading those two duas.
 
I am sure God wil help you.
 
Don't give up so easily.

In fact, neither Shias and Sunnis are truly strong. In some important matters, they have both shown weakness.
 
As one example, when Jannat ul Baquee was destroyed in 1925/26,  Shias in India approached the British government in New Delhi to do something.
 
And some prominent Sunnis, in particular, the famous Maulana Muhammad Ali and Maulana Jauhar Ali, were simply appalled.
 
The British government refused to interfere in the affairs of another nation.
 
Iran at that time was ruled by  the father of the Shah who was toppled in 1980.
 
He was not particularly interested.
 
In due course (after a very short while), everyone settled down with the status quo.
 
That is how strong we are to fight for our rights.
 
The right of world Muslims lies in the fact that the holy sites in KSA are not the property of the local government but of all world Muslims.

 
That is a very important point. But we just let the matter rest.  We took the defeat lying down.

 
The right thing, in my view, would have been to keep pressing.
 
Nothing spectacular may have come out of it  but at least we would have kept the issue alive.
 
Instead, we let it die a dishonourable death. 
 
if we cannot fight for our rights, why should anyone, like our good Sunni brothers and sisters, do?

To some exent perhaps.
 
But education (or lack thereof) does not fully explain it.
 
Germany was full of highly educated people when the Nazi madness enveloped the land 80 years ago.
 
I think the main reason for the Wahabi advance is that human nature tends to lean towards evil. This has happened, at all times throughout history, in all religions of the world. 
 
Also, there sure are many good Sunnis in the world but they do not seem to be strong enough to denounce the bad ones firmly enough.
 
The bad ones, with the backing of oil wealth and Wahabi philosophy, are therefore gaining strength.  

Beg them humbly to forgive you Make sure your mistakes are never repeated again Make sure you are always kind and humble to them in the future Read Dua no. 24 of Saheefa-e-Sajjadia in Arabic and English every day Read Dua-s-Mashlool at least once a week 

http://www.duas.org/mashlool.htm
(Wasalam)

Salam wr
It is good that you have such sincere regret for your misdeeds and its the first step toward a correct Tawba (repentance)
In addition to pleasing your parents, which is necessary, you must ask for forgiveness from Allah, He can soften the hearts and take care of broken hearts.
In situations like this, I personally have found the twenty fourth supplication of Sahifa al-Sajjadiyya very inspiring.
It's here:
http://www.duas.org/sajjadiya/s24.htm

Epithalamion = Sehra  (read during weddings in India/Pakistan)

 
Is that an English word?
 
Could you close your eyes and spell it for me?  If you can, you are a super-genius. 

Brother, if you don't mind my asking  - did her vivacity barrel down upon you before you broke your fast or after? 

Brother, if you don't mind my asking  - did her vivacity barrel down upon you before you broke your fast or after? 

Epithalamion = Sehra  (read during weddings in India/Pakistan)

 
Is that an English word?
 
Could you close your eyes and spell it for me?  If you can, you are a super-genius. 

Epithalamion = Sehra  (read during weddings in India/Pakistan)

 
Is that an English word?
 
Could you close your eyes and spell it for me?  If you can, you are a super-genius. 

Patras Bukhari, the famous Urdu humourist, columnist and essayist, wrote in the 1950s about the 'curse of bilingualism' for the Urdu speaking peoples. He said everyone who writes and reads in Urdu also does the same with ease in English, by virtue of the system of education in his time. He complained that Urdu speakers do not keep their language and improve it and develop it and speak and write in it, but switch to English words and sentences as quickly as they do, without making any effort to stick to the body of their local vernacular.
 
This observation made over half a century ago is much truer now than it was back then. It's a big shame how we are relinquishing our languages, not just Urdu but other local languages which are rich and old, in favour of appearing a bit more educated than we really are. This phenomenon was pushed to new heights with the advent of the internet. Without bothering to create our own keyboards and our own alphabets and characters and to type out our own language, what we did is to start typing our languages into a foreign script that we, the educated ones, already knew. And that script is Roman or English script. It was easier than doing all the work to create something, like other nations have done, which would have enabled us to type in our own langugae(s). So the laziness is costing us a lot. Now we have this despicable b.astardisation of Urdu called "Roman Urdu", and a few Indian Urdu speakers, men of letters in fact, have even laboured to develop a 'standardised Roman Urdu', asking people to accept and adopt it and to communicate in. Wow, I must say.
 
The silver lining, however, is that there are plenty of places on the web which use Urdu alphabet to do actual communication between members of those forums, primarily driven by enthusiasts of literature and poetry (yes, Urdu poetry has saved our culture and it's also going to save this language too). It is also where young ones who have migrated to foreign lands with alien languages, come back to read and learn Urdu (or other desi language) and over the years I have seen many people benefit from those websites. Yet on the other hand the degeneration of Urdu teaching in Pakistani schools at least, is a cause for great worry. Now, the kids who graduate from high school can neither speak good English nor can they speak respectable Urdu, because they are not taught any language properly. All they know is street language, and a strange and despicable mixture of Urdu and English which is neither fully one nor fully the other.
 
In all honesty, I don't see a good future for Urdu. But it isn't only about Urdu; the other regional/local languages also suffer from cultural and linguistic degradation.
 
A litmus test to check the prospects of a language is to see how many of its native speakers write in it, and how much they write it in. If a language is only driven by speaking and not writing and book publication, it is and will remain a second-degree language unable to carry modern ideas in it unless its speakers make an effort to put things into it.
 
This topic demands a whole new thread!

Hi Placid
  
As I told you before, there are many versions to lots of facts and events in Islamic history. 
 
Indeed, Sunnis do believe that the Prophet had four daughters, whereas Shias think he had only one.
 
However, the daughters of the Prophet were obviously different from his grand-daughters.
 
Sources that quote that he had four daughters also believe that they had all died well before Karbala.
 
Those at Karbala were only his grand-daughters, in other words, the daughters of Lady Fatima. 
And his great-grand-daughters or the grand-daughters of Lady Fatima.
 
 
What is the problem ?
 
Imam Hasan, the oldest of Lady Fatima's four children died (or rather was killed) years before Karbala.
 
Her remaining three children - Imam Husain, Lady Zainab and Lady Umme Kulsoom - were all at Karbala.
 
Imam Husain was killed at Karbala. Lady Zainab and Lady Umme Kulsoom, along with their nieces were taken captive. 
 
 
 
 
The expression "THE FIVE" does not constitute the complete household of the Prophet.
 
It relates to an incident before the birth of Lady Zainab when an angel is believed to have come to the Prophet to tell him about the extraordinary love God had for the FIVE and how they were very special to Him.
 
Lady Zainab and Lady Umme Kulsoom were born after that event.
 
They were, in fact, all part of the Prophet's household. In fact, many other people were also part of the household - naturally.
 
 
As you have rightly noted, Sunnis generally believe that the Prophet had four daughters, which Shias dispute.
 
But I don't think I mentioned anywhere that I agree with the Sunni view.
 
Whether he had four daughters or one is, in fact, not relevant for the purposes of this discussion.
 
Lady Fatima is the only one to whom he left his estate and which was denied to her by his successors.
 
Her children and grand-children were the only ones to have endured the extraordinary sufferings at Karbala, before Karbala and after. 
 
 
It was too well-known an event to have come from any single source.  Everyone always knew about it. 

Hi Placid
  
As I told you before, there are many versions to lots of facts and events in Islamic history. 
 
Indeed, Sunnis do believe that the Prophet had four daughters, whereas Shias think he had only one.
 
However, the daughters of the Prophet were obviously different from his grand-daughters.
 
Sources that quote that he had four daughters also believe that they had all died well before Karbala.
 
Those at Karbala were only his grand-daughters, in other words, the daughters of Lady Fatima. 
And his great-grand-daughters or the grand-daughters of Lady Fatima.
 
 
What is the problem ?
 
Imam Hasan, the oldest of Lady Fatima's four children died (or rather was killed) years before Karbala.
 
Her remaining three children - Imam Husain, Lady Zainab and Lady Umme Kulsoom - were all at Karbala.
 
Imam Husain was killed at Karbala. Lady Zainab and Lady Umme Kulsoom, along with their nieces were taken captive. 
 
 
 
 
The expression "THE FIVE" does not constitute the complete household of the Prophet.
 
It relates to an incident before the birth of Lady Zainab when an angel is believed to have come to the Prophet to tell him about the extraordinary love God had for the FIVE and how they were very special to Him.
 
Lady Zainab and Lady Umme Kulsoom were born after that event.
 
They were, in fact, all part of the Prophet's household. In fact, many other people were also part of the household - naturally.
 
 
As you have rightly noted, Sunnis generally believe that the Prophet had four daughters, which Shias dispute.
 
But I don't think I mentioned anywhere that I agree with the Sunni view.
 
Whether he had four daughters or one is, in fact, not relevant for the purposes of this discussion.
 
Lady Fatima is the only one to whom he left his estate and which was denied to her by his successors.
 
Her children and grand-children were the only ones to have endured the extraordinary sufferings at Karbala, before Karbala and after. 
 
 
It was too well-known an event to have come from any single source.  Everyone always knew about it. 

This was actually written in English. ;)
 
On the other hand, quite a few classic Jewish books, including many medieval philosophical treatises, were written in literary Arabic. Usually using Hebrew transliteration though.
 
 

If it was written in Arabic, instead of Hebrew ;)
 
 
Yes.