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baqar got a reaction from notme in Issues of Slaves and Slave-girls
I refuse to believe that our Holy Prophet ((صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم)) or our Imams (عليه السلام) allowed rape?
I just cannot accept it.
Sorry.
The error must be on the side of our narrators or compilers.
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baqar got a reaction from Ibn Al-Ja'abi in Issues of Slaves and Slave-girls
Yes brother, I understand your point.
It doesn't worry me too much because there are no slaves in the present day.
But if I did have a slave girl, I like to think that I would never have sex with her.
That is what I would like to think anyway.
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baqar got a reaction from Muslimthought97 in Issues of Slaves and Slave-girls
I refuse to believe that our Holy Prophet ((صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم)) or our Imams (عليه السلام) allowed rape?
I just cannot accept it.
Sorry.
The error must be on the side of our narrators or compilers.
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baqar got a reaction from Mohammed-Mehdi in Issues of Slaves and Slave-girls
I refuse to believe that Islam can permit such a gross injustice.
I am sorry.
Harm or no harm is irrelevant.
Sex without consent is gross injustice.
Simple as that.
I think scholars have got it all wrong.
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baqar got a reaction from Muslimthought97 in Issues of Slaves and Slave-girls
Most people would find all this very unethical.
And some could even go as far as leaving Islam.
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baqar got a reaction from haideriam in In depth Analysis of Hadith e Thaqalyn by Salafis
Yes brother, it is obvious that the Prophet's words have been manipulated.
Because their hadith says that the Ahle Bait are one of two weighty things but leaves a gap there.
It does not say what makes them weighty.
Relationship to the Prophet cannot make them weighty because if that was the case, Prophet's Nooh's son would have been regarded as weighty.
Their hadith is therefore missing the reason why they should be seen as weighty.
On the other hand, our hadith says that they are to be followed.
So if they are to be followed, it is obvious that they had merit that made them worthy of being followed.
And that was the whole point of this hadith - to state their merit and then to enjoin Muslims to follow them because of their merit.
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baqar reacted to eThErEaL in Shias and Sahaba
That isn’t my view. We are responsible, but what we are responsible for is our intentions, for our sincerity. This determines the quality of our deeds.
it is a known fact that we cannot judge anyone’s intentions.
what I have said is simply what the Islamic Tradition says. If you find it off or new then this is because are not familiar with these basic principles of our religion. It is unfortunate but I am saying this out of concern for all of you here.
In any case, I am sorry if have offended any of you here.
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baqar reacted to layman in Shias and Sahaba
If you said that "it is a known fact that we cannot judge anyone’s intentions". Why are you implying goodness to all actions by the sahaba? You should be neutral until you get all the facts. Otherwise, you will imply goodness of Yazid that ordered the killing of Hussain (عليه السلام).
We, the followers of Ahlulbayts use the Commands or Words of Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) as criteria to evaluate the actions of Sahaba. If violations occured, then their intention have problems with directives of Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى). That intention is misguided, regardless how the sahabas worded their actions. Some fought against Ali (عليه السلام) because to revenge the death of Uthman, and we cannot judge their intentions as misguided? We know for fact that Ali (عليه السلام) is Wali as mentioned in Qur'an.
If you go against clear Commands of Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) voluntarily after hujjat given you, then you offended us because you said that you are loving Ahlul Bayt (عليه السلام). Other than that, we have not case against you. You can choose your direction and it wiĺl not bother us.
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baqar reacted to The Green Knight in Shias and Sahaba
"Ya Ali none love you except those who are momin
and none hate you except those who are kafir"
Problem = solved.
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baqar reacted to eThErEaL in Shias and Sahaba
Not because they are special.... I see.
who are you to say that? I don’t think we should arbitrarily put limits where we want to put limits.
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baqar reacted to Kaya in Shias and Sahaba
At least you have kept some part of your decent Shia upbringing so as to not put "May God be pleased with him" next to Muawiyah's name. But how come, your Sunni friends always say that along with his name. Why the inconsistency?
And to answer your question, Sunnis say that Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) was pleased with all Sahaba. So according to that logic, why not follow the sunnah of Muawiyah, since it means God will also be pleased with me?
I seek refuge in Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) from such a hypocritical stance.
Is the wife of Noah and Lot your precious mother? The Qur'an says both of them were Kafir disbelievers even though they were married to a Prophet. Surah Tahreem, check it out.
There is some evidence from hadith to say that in the hereafter she isn't the wife of Rasool Allah (S), and therefore not our mother anymore.
But even if she is our mother, she sure isn't our precious mother because she disobeyed the Qur'an and the Holy Prophet and caused the death of thousands of innocent Muslims.
So if I gaze on the Prophet (S) then I can kill innocent people and be a tyrant and naive people will still call me "great". Mashallah nice wahabbi logic there.
We trust in God alone. If people wish to live harmoniously with us and accept our religious practices, then we will co exist peacefully. Otherwise, we rely on God alone and He will take care of us. We will never abandon the Ahlul Bayt (عليه السلام) so that the people may be pleased with us.
We have been forced to Taqiyya because tyrant Sunni regimes have been killing us for the last 13 centuries. E.g. Saddam, Saudi, Ummayads, Abbasids, the list is endless.
STOP KILLING US AND THERE WILL BE NO TAQIYYA. Allow us to speak freely and you will hear the truth openly.
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baqar reacted to Kaya in Shias and Sahaba
Neither the Shias in general, or the Shias that curse, will die off. The largest yearly pilgrimage in the whole world is to the Shrine of Imam Hussain, may peace and blessings be upon him. 25 million people last Arbaeen, and it will only grow from now on.
All Wahabbi and Sunni terrorists swore that they would destroy the shrine, but they are now gone. ISIS is gone. They died off, and the blessed shrine still stands.
As for the few ones who were born Shia and left their faith, Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) says in the Qur'an:
O you who believe, if anyone from you turns back from his Faith, then Allah will bring a people whom He loves and who love Him, humble toward the believers, hard on the disbelievers, who fight in the way of Allah and are not afraid of the reproach of any critic. That is a grace of Allah. He confers it on whom He wills. Allah is All-Embracing, All-Knowing.
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baqar reacted to Kaya in Shias and Sahaba
Muawiyyah? You mean the one whose mother ate the liver of Hamza at Uhud, and whose father fought against the Holy Prophet (S) for 22 years and only accepted Islam out of fear for his reputation and to not face his crimes?
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baqar reacted to haideriam in Shias and Sahaba
eThErEal, not seen you fumble as bad since I have been reading you. his is what happens when one tries to defend a wrong. One ends up wronging one's own soul.
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baqar reacted to eThErEaL in Shias and Sahaba
I see history as nothing but an interpretation. It has absolutely no objective reality whatsoever. To an extent, you are responsible for how you interpret it. So what I have presented to you is an interpretation just as you have your interpretation. For me it makes absolutely no sense that Abu Bakr and a Umar were not sincere and that they were power hungry. I find this to be very a immature and cynical way to see all this.
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baqar got a reaction from Kaya in Shias and Sahaba
Which law in Islam precludes family members from acting as witnesses?
My choice is irrelevant.
The priority is to find out what the truth is and everything points to the very high probability that Umar had a good idea what the Prophet ((صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم)) had in mind.
And it wasn't to his liking.
Saqifa must be interpreted according to people's intentions.
To leave the Prophet's funeral to go to a meeting shows the participants' real intentions.
I do.
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baqar reacted to eThErEaL in Shias and Sahaba
the Unfortunate situation was that the witnesses did not suffice as they were part of the family.
good.
This interpretation is based on “su as zhan” (having a bad opinion). It is your choice to have either a good opinion or a bad opinion.
Even Saqifah can be interpreted positively. It need not be interpreted negatively. I for example see it positively as Abu Bakr and Umar trying to prevent discord in the unmah between The Aws and Khazraj. Someone really needed to be there and Alhamdulillah, thank God those two were there! When I read history on this I cannot help but think that Umar and Abu Bakr has the interest of the Prophet’s (S) Ummah at heart.
I don’t see this conclusion at all. Yes he wasn’t in favor for sure. But he wasn’t in favor for good reasons.. precisely because Imam Ali (عليه السلام) was just too great and too pure for the Ummah to handle. It would be miraculous to lead in such a way while holding the entire Ummah together (but this miracle is only possible with the inception of divine revelation, namely the Prophetic Mission - where Heaven meets Earth). Notice that when Imam Ali (عليه السلام) was given a chance to lead, how many civil wars there were? Now as time goes on the Earth becomes farther from Heaven (which was the meeting point where revelation occurred which means the possibility of a pure leader becomes even more impossible ) This is truly the reason why Imam Hasan (عليه السلام) decided to let go of the leadership.
it is true. This is how the Prophet (S) grants shafah, not through our own efforts but by being part of his (S) Ummah. Falling under his banner of praise. Inshallah. This element Of love for the Prophet (S) is missing in The consciousness of most Shias today. And this is unfortunate.
there are also many Hadith that say the Prophet (S) will intercede for everyone in his Ummah.
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baqar got a reaction from Ashvazdanghe in Shias and Sahaba
Brother
The three caliphs were all men of different character.
Briefly,
Abu Bakr (رضي الله عنه) was the best of the three but he had some faults. He caused great grief to Lady Fatima ((صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم)) and also to Imam Ali (عليه السلام).
Umar (رضي الله عنه) was the one who prevented the Prophet ((صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم)) from writing a Will. He was rash and erratic and questioned the Holy Prophet ((صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم)) a number of times.
Uthman (رضي الله عنه) was a very unjust man. He filled the government with his relatives who committed great mistakes.
He exiled the Prophet's companion Abu Zar Ghaffari to the desert for no fault.
Everything I have written is in history books accepted by all Sunnis.
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baqar got a reaction from Ashvazdanghe in What's the role of you brothers and sisters on the upcoming events with our Imam
I think the best way to prepare for our Imam (عليه السلام) is to pray to God that he gives us the spirit of obedience in our character.
As long as we are obedient to our Imam (عليه السلام), it does not matter whether we are average, below average or above average.
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baqar reacted to eThErEaL in Shias and Sahaba
Once Imam Ali (عليه السلام) (Even as a Caliph) lost a court case over an item that was stolen from him just because there weren’t sufficient witnesses to prove his case. He accepted the judgement of the judge as God’s will and would have in fact reprimanded the judge if the judge simply took Imam Ali (عليه السلام) side for being an Imam or Kaliph. The grief Abu Bakr (رضي الله عنه) caused was inevitable since he (in the capacity of a judge and caliph) was being strict (as was expected) and was doing his job. I am not saying Fadak was not Seyyeda Fatima(عليه السلام) right, it truly belonged to her and it was her right to have Fadak.
this is because he couldn’t bear to see the Prophet (S) undergo any more difficulty And hardship. It was due to his love for him (S)
This was a trait he had and yet the Prophet (S) chose him as a close companion. So Muslims love him (رضي الله عنه) because of that. We hope that by merely being associated with the Prophet (S) by being in his Ummah we will receive the Prophet’s (S) intercession on the day of Judgement despite our mistakes and vices. (Inshallah)
Despite all the mistakes he may have done, Imam Ali (عليه السلام) would advice The Caliph Umar (رضي الله عنه) not to go to the front lines in a war so that his life would not end prematurely and because the Ummah needs a Caliph.... this is in Shia Books as well (even basic madressa books of Shias by the way)
And yet, Imam Hasan And Imam Hussein (عليه السلام) were ordered by Imam Ali (عليه السلام) to defend his life from those that wanted to attack him.
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baqar reacted to Kaya in Shias and Sahaba
How strange it is that some Sunni converts never read their own Sahih Bukhari. I, as a ex-Sunni, have read it. Here you go:
Narrated by Aisha:
Fatimah the daughter of the Prophet sent someone to Abu Bakr (when he was a caliph), asking for her inheritance of what Allah’s Apostle had left of the property bestowed on him by Allah from the Fai (I.e. booty gained without fighting) in Medina, and Fadak, and what remained of the Khumus of the Khaibar booty. ...but Abu Bakr refused to give anything of that to Fatimah. So she became angry with Abu Bakr and kept away from him, and did not task to him till she died. She remained alive for six months after the death of the Prophet. When she died, her husband ‘‘Ali, buried her at night without informing Abu Bakr and he said the funeral prayer by himself.
Sunni References: - Sahih al-Bukhari, Chapter of "The battle of Khaibar", Arabic-English, v5, tradition #546, pp 381-383, also v4, Tradition #325
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And what did the Holy Prophet (S) say about someone with whom Fatimah (عليه السلام) is angry?
"Fatimah is a part of me. Whoever makes her angry, makes me angry."
Sunni references: - Sahih al-Bukhari, Arabic-English, v5, Traditions #61 and #111 - Sahih Muslim, section of virtues of Fatimah, v4, pp 1904-5
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So it clear that both Rasool Allah (S) and Lady Fatima (عليه السلام) was angry with Abu Bakr. And so, we the believers are angry with him.
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baqar reacted to Kaya in Shias and Sahaba
A poet said this about Lady Fatima Zahra, may peace and blessings be upon her:
The Muslims have been deeply pained.
Their beloved Prophet has passed away.
And especially for his kith and kin,
it is one of their lives saddest day.
A lady who happens to be his daughter,
above all is the most afflicted one.
She was the nearest to her father.
Alas her troubles have just begun.
What in the Prophet’s eyes was her status,
unfortunately the people shall forget.
She should be respected by all of us.
But a harsh treatment, she’ll be met.
Everyone had heard her father say,
"My daughter is a part of me".
For her safety he would often pray;
Not wanting her to bear any agony.
But his words fell on deaf ears.
His followers were lead astray.
So, were realized those worst fears,
and his tidings were disobeyed.
Each forthcoming day brings her sorrow
and only a few more months she’ll live.
Each night she worries about her woes.
Her tormentors, she may not forgive.
In her last days, she is seen weeping.
Awake all night, she seldom sleeps.
Of her troubles, she keeps thinking.
The wounds in her heart are so deep.
The thoughts of her father alone
cause tears from her eyes to flow
and what will happen to her children?
What fate do they have in stow?
"Be kind to them and take care",
she wills about her poor children,
because she’ll be no longer near
and they’ll soon be orphans.
As she spends the time crying,
her neighbours come and complain.
But look! She is already dying.
Their complaint will be in vain.
And that dark moment finally comes,
for her heavenly abode, she departs.
Holding back their tears, her children,
see their baba, who, with a heavy heart,
hands trembling and with great anguish
takes away her coffin during the night.
He makes sure to fulfill her last wish.
She will rest, out of everyones sight.
Has gone from this world forever,
the mother of children so brave!
But why was she buried in a manner
that no one knows, where is her grave?
‘Ali Rizwan Shah,
14th Jamadiul Awwal, 1413 A.H.
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baqar reacted to ali_fatheroforphans in Shias and Sahaba
Our sect is not based on our personal misguided "feelings". Christians feel they are guided, Hindus feel they are guided, Sufis feel they are guided. We all feel closer to God etc.
The fact is that the love of Ahlul Bayt (عليه السلام) can't fill your heart without you having hatred for the enemies of Ahlul Bayt (عليه السلام). If you feel it works that way then it's an illusion.
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baqar reacted to 3wliya_maryam in Shias and Sahaba
@eThErEaL just go read brother a lot of your views are based on your own personal beliefs
