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  1. SUFI'S is full of BIDAH lik not long ago some Sufi tariqa joined with BUDDISTS to join sessions then they go enter the temple and do the same stuff WITH IDOL worshippers sufi'a from sunni and shia side are both deviated you can acheive leval of irfaan the WAY syed tatabai and other scholer through the way the prophet and imam taught us not through sufi masters this is what our 10th imam said when a companion said these SUFI'S follow the them (imams) Imam al-Hadi (a.s.) scolded him and shouted, ‘Do not say that! He, who acknowledges our rights, does not disobey us. Do you not know that they are the worst group of Sufis, though all Sufis are dissentient to us and their way is contrary to ours? They are but Christians and magi of this nation
  2. ^^^^^ NO not really but you just take so loong to understand it while is actually really easy and VERY clear to understand in 1 ayat which is 4:59 but you go round and round in circles so we bring you more and more in Depth proof and knowledge
  3. Bismlilla 1) Now to reply to what the writer says that the Shia have made up there own 12 imams the famous HANAFI scholer AL QONDOZI states in his books Yana3eeb al Mawada volume 3 page 398 æÝí ÇáãäÇÞÈ : ÍÏËäÇ ÃÕÍÇÈäÇ æÞÇáæÇ : ÍÏËäÇ ãÍãÏ Èä åãÇã ¡ ÞÇá : ÍÏËäÇ ÌÚÝÑ ÅÈä ãÍãÏ Èä ãÇáß ÇáÝÒÇÑí ¡ ÞÇá : ÍÏËäí ÇáÍÓíä Èä ãÍãÏ Èä ÓãÇÚÉ ÞÇá : ÍÏËäí ÃÍãÏ Èä ÇáÍÇÑË ¡ ÞÇá : ÍÏËäí ÇáãÝÖá Èä ÚãÑ ¡ Úä íæäÓ Èä ÙÈíÇä ¡ Úä ÌÇÈÑ Èä íÒíÏ ÇáÌÚÝí ÞÇá : ÓãÚÊ ÌÇÈÑ Èä ÚÈÏ Çááå ÇáÇäÕÇÑí íÞæá : ÞÇá áí ÑÓæá Çááå (Õ) : íÇ ÌÇÈÑ Åä ÃæÕíÇÆí æÃÆãÉ ÇáãÓáãíä ãä ÈÚÏí Ãæáåã Úáí ¡ Ëã ÇáÍÓä ¡ Ëã ÇáÍÓíä ¡ Ëã Úáí Èä ÇáÍÓíä ¡ Ëã ãÍãÏ Èä Úáí ÇáãÚÑæÝ ÈÇáÈÇÞÑ ÓÊÏÑßå íÇ ÌÇÈÑ ÝÅÐÇ áÞíÊå ÝÇÞÑÃå ãäí ÇáÓáÇã ¡ Ëã ÌÚÝÑ Èä ãÍãÏ ¡ Ëã ãæÓì Èä ÌÚÝÑ ¡ Ëã Úáí Èä ãæÓì ¡ Ëã ãÍãÏ Èä Úáí ¡ Ëã Úáí Èä ãÍãÏ ¡ Ëã ÇáÍÓä Èä Úáí ¡ Ëã ÇáÞÇÆã ÇÓãå ÇÓãí æßäíÊå ßäíÊí ãÍãÏ Èä ÇáÍÓä Èä Úáí ¡ ÐÇß ÇáÐí íÝÊÍ Çááå - ÊÈÇÑß æÊÚÇáì - Úáì íÏíå ãÔÇÑÞ ÇáÇÑÖ æãÛÇÑÈåÇ ¡ ÐÇß ÇáÐí íÛíÈ Úä ÃæáíÇÆå ÛíÈÉ áÇ íËÈÊ Úáì ÇáÞæá ÈÇãÇãÊå ÅáÇ ãä ÇãÊÍä Çááå ÞáÈå ááÇíãÇä . ÞÇá ÌÇÈÑ : ÝÞáÊ : íÇ ÑÓæá Çááå Ýåá ááäÇÓ ÇáÇäÊÝÇÚ Èå Ýí ÛíÈÊå ¿ ÝÞÇá : Åí æÇáÐí ÈÚËäí ÈÇáäÈæÉ ¡ Åäåã íÓÊÖíÆæä ÈäæÑ æáÇíÊå Ýí ÛíÈÊå ßÇäÊÝÇÚ ÇáäÇÓ ÈÇáÔãÓ æÅä ÓÊÑåÇ ÓÍÇÈ ¡ åÐÇ ãä ãßäæä ÓÑ Çááå ¡ æãÎÒæä Úáã Çááå ¡ ÝÇßÊãå ÅáÇ Úä Ãåáå This Hadith for the non Arab speakers narrates the Prophet (saaw) says and names all the Imams From Imam Ali-Imam Mahdi Also he writes and states some of the names of the 12 he reaches up to 6 1. Abu Bakr As-Siddiq 2. Umar ibn al-Khattab 3. Uthman bin Affan 4. Ali ibn abi Talib 5. Hasan ibn Ali 6. Umar ibn Abdul Aziz As he says also in AL GONDOZI book who is a famous Hanafi scholer states Úä ÚÈÏ Çáãáß Èä ÚãíÑ Úä ÌÇÈÑ Èä ÓãÑÉ ( Ñ ) ÞÇá : ßäÊ ãÚ ÃÈí ÚäÏ ÑÓæá Çááå (Õ) ÝÓãÚÊå íÞæá : ÈÚÏí ÅËäÇ ÚÔÑ ÎáíÝÉ Ëã ÃÎÝì ÕæÊå ÝÞáÊ áÇÈí : ãÇ ÇáÐí [ ÞÇá Ýí ] ÃÎÝì ÕæÊå ¿ ÞÇá : ÞÇá : ßáåã ãä Èäí åÇÔã in volume 2 page 312 it says that the Prophet said the will be 12 after me ALL FROM BANI HASHIM in this list of 6 we see only 2 from BANI hashim (the clan of hashim) the Writer Says "The truthful scholars of Sunni Islam can only therefore guess at who the twelve Caliphs are, and it should be understood that these are guesses at best; only deviants manipulate the Word of Allah claiming certainty: the Imamis are adamant about their twelve, the Zaydis are adamant about their twelve" WE say No the Sunni scholers now who these 12 are but purposly disgard them due to ignorance this is why Ibn hajr says about the hadiths of the 12 after the Prophet as No one has much knowledge about this particular Hadith” (Ibn Hajar al-’Asqalani, Fath al-Bari 16:338 I wonder why.............. Now the writer states to mock and reject the birth of the 12th imam he writes "Indeed, if Hasan al-Askari really had a child, then why did his own family not give a share of the inheritance to him? To deal with this inconsistency, the Imami Shia of the time denounced Jafar as being “al-Kadhab” (the Liar), and they came up with the fantastic story that the eleventh Imam had a son but that this son was hidden from view (i.e. in occultation). In order to “prove” the existence of this mysterious son, the Imami Shia actually brought forward the Hadith of the twelve Caliphs and others similar to it" WE say ther is more than 250 sources FROM sunni Books that prove the birth of the 12th imam and Imam hasan al Askari had a son called "AL MAHDI" we shall the Quote the names of the scholer of Ahulul sunnah that record the birth of the 12th imam or "Al Mahdi" 1) Imam al Dhaabi - Al abaar Fee Khabr Min Ghabr- Volume 3- Page 31 2) Ibn Joozi- Tadkirat al Khawadth- page 204 3) Imam Fakher Al Raazi- Al shjara al mubaarka Fee ansaab Al Talabia- page 324 4) Imam Al Suyooti- Ahyaa Al mayeet 5) Ibn Hajir- Al Sawaaig Al Muharaga- page 124 (printed Eygpt) And that just some of the scholer of Ahulul sunnah that record the Bith of the Imam Al Mahdi Now we Enter Who is Al Mahdi and can Imam Mahdi be born from any family of this ummah?? The Famous Salafi Scholer AL ALBANY states in his book AL HADITH AL NABAWAI AL SHAREEF hadith number 3603 äÕ ÇáÍÏíË Úä Ãã ÓáãÉ ÞÇáÊ : ÓãÚÊ ÑÓæá Çááå (Õ) íÞæá ÇáãåÏí ãä ÚÊÑÊí ãä æáÏ ÝÇØãÉ "Al salama says i heard the Prophet (saaw) say Al mahdi will be from the my Progeny and from the son of Fatima" (sahih) Albani This hadith further supprts the shia view of the birth of the imam and the as Sunni says can be born from any family of this ummah but there own books refute this as the hadith clearly says from the Son of Fatima And i have gone back to Alot of hadiths About Imam Mahdi appearances from the Sunni books THEY ALL SAY ÓíÙåÑ Ãæ ÓíÎÑÌ Ãæ ÓíÈÚË which is WILL APPEAR or WILL COME but NO HADITH WILL BE BORN?? intresting The writer has weak cliams with no back up of what he is saying has not even gone back to his own books and should seek knowledge W salam Ahmad
  4. Jahan Instead again dodging the proof of immate again i say its a clear as SALAT in the quran but you cannot acept it as "in there Hearts they have disease" since your talking about QURAN Sunan Ibne Majah, Volume 2, Page 39, Published Karachi) -------------- When the verses “Rajm” [stoning] and ayah “Rezah Kabir” descended, they were written on a piece of paper and kept under my pillow. Following the demise of Prophet Muhammad a goat ate the piece of paper while we were mourning. ACCORDING to 1 of your AUTHENTIC BOOKS parts of the quran is eaten by a GOAT soooooo why are you talking to us about the QURAN when your books say parts of it is eaten by a goat
  5. ÇáÚáÇãÉ ÇáãÌáÓí - ÈÍÇÑ ÇáÃäæÇÑ - ÇáÌÒÁ : ( 36 ) - ÑÞã ÇáÕÝÍÉ : ( 351 ) 221 - äÕ : ÇáÍÓíä Èä Úáí ¡ Úä åÇÑæä Èä ãæÓì ¡ Úä ãÍãÏ Èä ÅÓãÇÚíá ÇáÝÒÇÑí ¡ Úä ÚÈÏ Çááå Èä ÇáÕÇáÍ ßÇÊÈ ÇááíË ¡ Úä ÑÔÏ Èä ÓÚÏ ¡ Úä ÇáÍÓíä Èä íæÓÝ ÇáÇäÕÇÑí ¡ Úä Óåá Èä ÓÚÏ ÇáÇäÕÇÑí ÞÇá : ÓÃáÊ ÝÇØãÉ ÈäÊ ÑÓæá Çááå (Õ) Úä ÇáÇÆãÉ ÝÞÇáÊ : ßÇä ÑÓæá Çááå (Õ) íÞæá áÚáí (Ú) : íÇ Úáí ÃäÊ ÇáÇãÇã æÇáÎáíÝÉ ÈÚÏí æÃäÊ Ãæáì ÈÇáãÄãäíä ãä ÃäÝÓåã ¡ ÝÅÐÇ ãÖíÊ ÝÇÈäß ÇáÍÓä Ãæáì ÈÇáãÄãäíä ãä ÃäÝÓåã ¡ ÝÅÐÇ ãÖì ÇáÍÓä ÝÇáÍÓíä Ãæáì ÈÇáãÄãäíä ãä ÃäÝÓåã ÝÅÐÇ ãÖì ÇáÍÓíä ÝÇÈäå Úáí Èä ÇáÍÓíä Ãæáì ÈÇáãÄãäíä ãä ÃäÝÓåã ¡ ÝÅÐÇ ãÖì Úáí ÝÇÈäå ãÍãÏ Ãæáì ÈÇáãÄãäíä ãä ÃäÝÓåã ¡ ÝÅÐÇ ãÖì ãÍãÏ ÝÇÈäå ÌÚÝÑ Ãæáì ÈÇáãÄãäíä ãä ÃäÝÓåã ÝÅÐÇ ãÖì ÌÚÝÑ ÝÇÈäå ãæÓì Ãæáì ÈÇáãÄãäíä ãä ÃäÝÓåã ¡ ÝÅÐÇ ãÖì ãæÓì ÝÇÈäå Úáí Ãæáì ÈÇáãÄãäíä ãä ÃäÝÓåã ¡ ÝÅÐÇ ãÖì Úáí ÝÇÈäå ãÍãÏ Ãæáì ÈÇáãÄãäíä ãä ÃäÝÓåã ¡ ÝÅÐÇ ãÖì ãÍãÏ ÝÇÈäå Úáí Ãæáì ÈÇáãÄãäíä ãä ÃäÝÓåã ÝÅÐÇ ãÖì Úáí ÝÇÈäå ÇáÍÓä Ãæáì ÈÇáãÄãäíä ãä ÃäÝÓåã ¡ ÝÅÐÇ ãÖì ÇáÍÓä ÝÇáÞÇÆã ÇáãåÏí Ãæáì ÈÇáãÄãäíä ãä ÃäÝÓåã ¡ íÝÊÍ Çááå Èå ãÔÇÑÞ ÇáÇÑÖ æãÛÇÑÈåÇ ¡ Ýåã ÃÆãÉ ÇáÍÞ æÃáÓäÉ ÇáÕÏÞ ¡ ãäÕæÑ ãä äÕÑåã ¡ ãÎÐæá ãä ÎÐáåã . U wanted Hadith there is HADITH from BIHAR there are 12
  6. WEll the School of AHULULBAYT beats any SCHHOOOL on this earth in KNOWLEDGE as we are THE TRUTHHH but when PEOPLE SEE people HIT THEMSELVES WITH SWORDDDSS and BLOOD coming out this AUTOMATICALLY makes them RAN from ISLAM and SHIA ISLAM and when this HAPPENS THIS IS AUTOMATICALLY HARAMM NO FATWA NEDED!!!!! AND BRING ME 1 PROOF the PROPHET ALLOWED PEOPLE TO MOURN with BLOOD and WEAPONS?? beating the chest is okie and we HAVE PROOF but SWORDS BRING PROOF
  7. ^^^^^ since your saying the verses are being taken out of centext let me ask you somthing was surat al buqara the first sura to be revealed if no Why is it the surah after al hamd why didnt surat al alaq be first?? second the verses clearly mention the concept of immate from the shia view as the AYATS says WE referring to Allah choosing the imams the verse in al Baqara is as clear as sun in day light when Prophet Ibrahim asks Allah to allow from his offspring imams but you havent got the heart to accpet all that and he is reading from ahululbayt a wahabi webiste so it tells you all
  8. Ahmedlazio you said 21.73": And We made them Imams who guided (people) by Our command, and We revealed to them the doing of good and the keeping up of prayer and the giving of the alms, and Us (alone) did they serve; and if you still dont belive this CLEAR proof for immate as CLEAR as SALAT in the quran Look at the verses context Quran, 21:72-73: “And We gave him Ishaq and Yaqoub, a son’s son, and We made (them) all good. And We made them leaders (imams) who guided (people) by Our command, and We revealed to them the doing of good and the keeping up of prayer and the giving of the alms, and Us (alone) did they serve.” AS JAHAN SAYS ................................. ARE 2 WAYS of TAFSIR 1) is MODHA3I which is doing TAFSIR on a specfic topic Such as Qiyahma 2) is TAZGEEI which is doing tafsir for every ayat in the quran separating it from the verse before it and after it and finidng the reasons for what and why it came down for so saying TO US READ the AYAT before it and after is no proof as some ayats hav no relation to the verses before them and that is the wisdom of the quran IMMATE is as CLEAR as SALAT even mentioned MORE than SALAT in the Holy Quran
  9. and sunni's U must know there ARE 2 WAYS of TAFSIR 1) is MODHA3I which is doing TAFSIR on a specfic topic Such as Qiyahma 2) is TAZGEEI which is doing tafsir for every ayat in the quran separating it from the verse before it and after it and finidng the reasons for what and why it came down for so saying TO US READ the AYAT before it and after is no proof as some ayats hav no relation to the verses before them and that is the wisdom of the quran IMMATE is as CLEAR as SALAT even mentioned MORE than SALAT in the Holy Quran
  10. They HAVE NO LOGIC in wat they BELIVE "OUR MASTER MUWIYA killed OUR MASTER AMMAR IBN YASSIR MAY Allah BE PLASED WITH BOTH" What it this the killer and KILLED both in heavan its not logic and the whole sunni belief has no logic from there belief of THERE OWN INTERPATION of TAWHEED (hands legs chair) to Prophethood that they can sin and so on
  11. 21.73": And We made them Imams who guided (people) by Our command, and We revealed to them the doing of good and the keeping up of prayer and the giving of the alms, and Us (alone) did they serve; and if you still dont belive this CLEAR proof for immate as CLEAR as SALAT in the quran Bring forward YOUR Imams that Allah has chosen who GIUDE by Allah's comman????
  12. and For the immate in the Quran its as clear as Tawheed in the quran but for JAHADEEN (whatever you bring them they reject) they will never accept it 1) 013.007 SHAKIR: And those who disbelieve say: Why has not a sign been sent down upon him from his Lord? You are only a warner and (there is) a guide for every people ÅÈä ÌÑíÑ ÇáØÈÑí - ÌÇãÚ ÇáÈíÇä - ÇáÌÒÁ : ( 13 ) - ÑÞã ÇáÕÝÍÉ : ( 142 ) 18404- ÐßÑ ãä ÞÇá Ðáß : ÍÏËäÇ ÃÍãÏ Èä íÍíì ÇáÕæÝí ¡ ÞÇá : ËäÇ ÇáÍÓä Èä ÇáÍÓíä ÇáÃäÕÇÑí ¡ ÞÇá : ËäÇ ãÚÇÐ Èä ãÓáã ¡ ËäÇ ÇáåÑæí ¡ Úä ÚØÇÁ Èä ÇáÓÇÆÈ ¡ Úä ÓÚíÏ Èä ÌÈíÑ ¡ Úä ÅÈä ÚÈÇÓ ¡ ÞÇá : áãÇ äÒáÊ ÅäãÇ ÃäÊ ãäÐÑ æáßá Þæã åÇÏ æÖÚ (Õ) íÏå Úáì ÕÏÑå ¡ ÝÞÇá : ÃäÇ ÇáãäÐÑ æáßá Þæã åÇÏ ¡ æÃæãà ÈíÏå Åáì ãäßÈ Úáí ÝÞÇá : ÃäÊ ÇáåÇÏí íÇ Úáí ¡ Èß íåÊÏí ÇáãåÊÏæä ÈÚÏí ¡ æÞÇá ÂÎÑæä : ãÚäÇå : áßá Þæã ÏÇÚ. AL tabari narrates in his Jame3 al Bayaan volume 13 page 142 when the verse You are only a warner and (there is) a guide for every people came down the Prophet placed his hand on his chest and said and said i am the warner and the guide to all the people and you O ALI are the guide and you will the guide the belivers after me WHATELSE DO U WANT????? your own books and the quran say it
  13. do believe they had authority as the verse continues to say, "… And if you differ than refer back to Allah and his messenger...(4:59)" So it is possible to differ and disagree with what those in authority ask you to do, If for example they ask you to do anything haram, you refer back to Allah and hs messenger and do not obey them in this case. So it seems that the verse is actually a proof against the concept of Infallible Imaams being in authority amongst us. (Note: I do not believe that the Imaams are infalable) ^^^^^^^^^^ as JAHAN says well they ayat And (if you differ than refer back to Allah and his messenger)...(4:59)" is clear as the imams cannot add or take away from shari3a only Allah and his messenger has the right to do that so when they ayat says refer back to Allah and his messenger if you differ or quarrel meaning GO BACK TO THE QURAN and THE SUNNAH (which is reported by ahululbayt) of the Prophet as the imams did not BRING ANYTHING NEW
  14. ÑæÇíÉ ÕÍíÍ ãÓáã : ÒåíÑ Èä ÍÑÈ ¡ ÍÏËäÇ ÚÝÇä ¡ ÍÏËäÇ åãÇã ¡ ÍÏËäÇ ãÍãÏ Èä ÌÍÇÏÉ ¡ ÍÏËäí ÚÈÏ ÇáÌÈÇÑ Èä æÇÆá Úä ÚáÞãÉ Èä æÇÆá æãæáì áåã ÃäåãÇ ÍÏËÇå Úä ÃÈíå æÇÆá Èä ÍÌÑ Ãäå ÑÃì ÇáäÈí (Õ) ÑÝÚ íÏíå Ííä ÏÎá Ýí ÇáÕáÇÉ ßÈÑ - æÕÝ åãÇã ÍíÇá The Hadith in english That Zohayr Ibn Harb, narrates that Afan, narrates that Homam, narrates that Mohammed Ibn Jahada narrates that Abd Jabaar bin Wael, narrates that ALQAMA BIN WAEL narrattes his FATHER saw the Prophet (saaw) entered the prayer perforemd the TAKBIR then put his RIGHT of over LEFT SAHIH MUSLIM volume 1 page 150 and SUNNAN al DRAGEDNEY volume 1 page 286 Now fthe underlined part ALQAMA BIN WAEL narrates that his FATHER NARRATES well the point first out to mention is ALQAMA BIN WAEL was born after the death of his FATHER so how can he narrate from his father if he never saw him and lets ADD a line of POEM to the POETRY from your scholers on this hadith ÊåÐíÈ ÇáÊåÐíÈ 7 / 247 IBN HAJIR narrates this hadith is rejected as ALQAMA was born after the death of his FATHER Tahdeeb al Tahdeeb volume 7 page 247 ÊåÐíÈ ÇáÊåÐíÈ 8 / 314 also in TAHDHEEB al AKMAL volume 13 page 193 so your first hadith that you use for proof From Muslim is no proof for the reason above the others will come soon inshalla
  15. ÈÓã Çááå ÇáÑÍãÇä ÇáÑÍíã Salam to all I challenge any sunni out there in this small world to bring PROOF from there OWN BOOKS that the Prophet folded his ARMS in prayer or in the Fiqgh of Ahululbayt its called TAFEER AL YEDAYN i want jst 1 HADITH with IJMA (collection) of there scholers saying all the peopel narrating in chain of HADITHS is THEQA (reliable) i want the whole chain not abu hurrara said the Prophet (saaw) said that i want the whole chain if you cannot i will start helping you but its beter when it comes from you so we wait
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