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    Ebn Tie me yeah got a reaction from TheIslamHistory in 12 Imams Declaring Their Divine Appointment   
    This argument is still running and I am shocked. Dear Admin, I really like this comment, I was wondering how can I make this my signature?
     
    Considering the fact that this is a brilliant question!
     
    My simple answer Jin, after which I don't want to waste my time replying to your intellectually challenging questions. This is the sort of entertainment you provide to our enemies.
     
    It is an established fact that the masses were well aware who was the Imam of the Rafida and the filthy caliphs whom you hold dearly watched every succession carefully. Please read history don't come here and tell me where can I find the appointment of Imam Hasan Al-Askari (as) from Sahih Bukhari or Quran Kareem.
     
    I ask you sincerely does it even matter whether the Imams made public announcement? When it was made in Ghadir Khum almost everyone was called even the Idols of Quraysh and their daughter to pledge allegiance to Ameer ul Mumineen (as) and even then what happened?
     
    As for the other Aimmah Mutahireen (as), Imam Al-Husayn (as) sacrificed his whole family to pronounce his Imamat, do you accept him as an Imam?  
     
    As of the rest of Imams, do you expect the Abbasi and Ummavis to provide the stage for the Imams to declare their Imamat? 
     
    Uglier Jinn, you only made yourself appear like a fool by asking such rubbish here.
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    Ebn Tie me yeah got a reaction from Muslim2010 in [TRASH PIT]17th August, A Nice Tribute To Zia Ul Haq Shaheed   
    Yes. this is the worse kind of nightmare, listening to that Zaid Hamid alone is such a torture. Yahan dusra Zaid Hamid, ufff kia azaab :O
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    Ebn Tie me yeah got a reaction from Muslim2010 in 12 Imams Declaring Their Divine Appointment   
    This argument is still running and I am shocked. Dear Admin, I really like this comment, I was wondering how can I make this my signature?
     
    Considering the fact that this is a brilliant question!
     
    My simple answer Jin, after which I don't want to waste my time replying to your intellectually challenging questions. This is the sort of entertainment you provide to our enemies.
     
    It is an established fact that the masses were well aware who was the Imam of the Rafida and the filthy caliphs whom you hold dearly watched every succession carefully. Please read history don't come here and tell me where can I find the appointment of Imam Hasan Al-Askari (as) from Sahih Bukhari or Quran Kareem.
     
    I ask you sincerely does it even matter whether the Imams made public announcement? When it was made in Ghadir Khum almost everyone was called even the Idols of Quraysh and their daughter to pledge allegiance to Ameer ul Mumineen (as) and even then what happened?
     
    As for the other Aimmah Mutahireen (as), Imam Al-Husayn (as) sacrificed his whole family to pronounce his Imamat, do you accept him as an Imam?  
     
    As of the rest of Imams, do you expect the Abbasi and Ummavis to provide the stage for the Imams to declare their Imamat? 
     
    Uglier Jinn, you only made yourself appear like a fool by asking such rubbish here.
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    Ebn Tie me yeah got a reaction from Abu Nur in 12 Imams Declaring Their Divine Appointment   
    This argument is still running and I am shocked. Dear Admin, I really like this comment, I was wondering how can I make this my signature?
     
    Considering the fact that this is a brilliant question!
     
    My simple answer Jin, after which I don't want to waste my time replying to your intellectually challenging questions. This is the sort of entertainment you provide to our enemies.
     
    It is an established fact that the masses were well aware who was the Imam of the Rafida and the filthy caliphs whom you hold dearly watched every succession carefully. Please read history don't come here and tell me where can I find the appointment of Imam Hasan Al-Askari (as) from Sahih Bukhari or Quran Kareem.
     
    I ask you sincerely does it even matter whether the Imams made public announcement? When it was made in Ghadir Khum almost everyone was called even the Idols of Quraysh and their daughter to pledge allegiance to Ameer ul Mumineen (as) and even then what happened?
     
    As for the other Aimmah Mutahireen (as), Imam Al-Husayn (as) sacrificed his whole family to pronounce his Imamat, do you accept him as an Imam?  
     
    As of the rest of Imams, do you expect the Abbasi and Ummavis to provide the stage for the Imams to declare their Imamat? 
     
    Uglier Jinn, you only made yourself appear like a fool by asking such rubbish here.
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    Ebn Tie me yeah reacted to Abdul Qaim in 12 Imams Declaring Their Divine Appointment   
    Strange how the people didn't know the Imams' (as) claims, but the governments of Banu 'Umayya and Banu 'l-'Abbas knew precisely who the leaders of the Rafida were.
     
    Anyway, arguing with Ugly Jinn is completely pointless. His beliefs are unswerving and his purpose here is to convince others of the verity of his argument. This exercise is just the "lite" version of the circus that passes as debate on KFC; fruitless disputation sans the vile insults ...
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    Ebn Tie me yeah reacted to Kazmi_202 in 12 Imams Declaring Their Divine Appointment   
    Your reply is proof, that you have no Islamic proof for the criteria you have selected.
     
    As for us having to provide proof that the 12 Imams were Divinely Appointed, then Bismillah, by all means create a new topic requesting that information, without adding your personal preconceived conditions.
     
    As for the claim there was no public mention of Imamat, then that is a lie. The Prophet (saaw) announced it publicly and privately numerous times, one of the best examples being Ghadeer. The position is mentioned in the Quran Kareem too. Therefore if anyone from the 'public' is interested in knowing this issue, he/she has access to  a 'very public' starting place.
     
    As for why each Imam did not go out publicly and claim his position to the masses (after the Prophet (saaw) had already publicly announced Imamate and leadership of the AhulBayt after him (saaw)), then that is a good question, to which you will have been provided numerous answers already lol.
     
    Again, the onus is actually on you to prove that a Divine Position is only TRUE if it is announced publicly to the masses. Then it is on you to describe, in accordance to the Quran Kareem and Sunnah, how many people actually constitute as 'the masses' and how the Sharia defines 'Public'. Would for example a declaration made in the night be valid, or is it only ones during daylight? Will 500 witnesses suffice or 50?
     
    Please prove your criteria from Quran and Sunnah so that it can be pursued, otherwise its like me saying that if Musa (as) really existed, we would have a location for his grave!! Its a logical statement, but where in Islam does it state only evidence of a grave will be sufficient proof for the existence of someone from the past? 
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    Ebn Tie me yeah reacted to IbnSohan in 12 Imams Declaring Their Divine Appointment   
    i wasnt aiming to answer you nor i am intending to do so. I was saying that it is pointless to answer you because your question reflects your misunderstanding or lack of ability to understand religion as a whole.
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    Ebn Tie me yeah got a reaction from Abu Tufayl in Response To Narrator Criticism In Sunni Rijal   
    I know that guy Farid, I was there before until they disabled my account for no reason. That Zindeeq (Ebn Yazeed) said we have only black and white, my reply to him is that your religion has only GREY. Almost everything is unclear, even the character of Yazeed. That guy Ebn Yazeed does takfir of almost every living creature except wahabiya and him.
     
    Message to Farid, we will smash your idols!
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    Ebn Tie me yeah got a reaction from akramabbas in Abu Lulu Killed Umar ...but why?   
    I hope it is sincere.
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    Ebn Tie me yeah reacted to Abu Tufayl in Mukthar Al Thaqafi   
    (bismillah)
     
    Playing the rijal and isnad game, especially a salafized version of it foreign to our mathhab, isn't going to reveal any real truth to the matter on Mukhtar al-Thaqafi. Not to mention really ahistorical. There are two possibilities I consider to be more accurate, at this moment.
     
    He was a Kaysani who loved Ahl al-Bayt [as] and wanted revenge for them so he sought out and killed those cursed people and brought them to justice here. The Imams [as] were pleased with this and were not hammering him due to his mathhab as the era of `Ali b. al-Husayn [as] was when the believers were very few and taqiyya was done towards even family members (al-Sajjad did not even teach his children aside from al-Baqir about the Imama). The Imam said to not insult Mukhtar (and yes that hadith is Sahih, Sadir b. Hukaym is thiqa).
     
    The other is that Mukhtar did taqiyya and/or repented from being a Kaysani.
     
    الله أعلم بصواب الأمور
    في أمان الله
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    Ebn Tie me yeah got a reaction from nemesis in Successor Of Prophet Isa Ibn Maryam (As)   
    It is Bitris or Samaon according to the Arab Christians. Imam Ali (as) mentioned the name in Kitab Sulaym bin Qais, please share this with us please.
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    Ebn Tie me yeah got a reaction from nemesis in Successor Of Prophet Isa Ibn Maryam (As)   
    Hazrat Isa ibn Maryam (as) is known to have 12 apostles or 12 disciples. Out of the 12 disciples, one was selected as his wasi and according to the school of ahlul bayt it is Saint Peter:
     
    also I say I to you that you are Keepa (Cephah) and on this Keepa (Cephah) I will build my Church and the gates of Sheol not will subdue it.


    Thou art a rock, and upon this rock: or, Thou art Peter, and upon this peter will I build my Church
    There was also another prominent figure he is known as James the Just leader of the Christians, according to research he is not among the 12 apostles
     
     
    Matthew [Mt 10:1–4] Mark [Mk 3:13–19] Luke [Lk 6:12–16] Simon, who is called Peter Simon (to whom he gave the name Peter) Simon, whom he named Peter Andrew, his brother Andrew Andrew his brother James the son of Zebedee James the son of Zebedee James John, his brother John the brother of James (to whom he gave the name Boanerges) John Philip Philip Philip Bartholomew Bartholomew Bartholomew Thomas Thomas Thomas Matthew, the tax collector Matthew Matthew James the son of Alphaeus James the son of Alphaeus James the son of Alphaeus Thaddaeus Thaddaeus Judas the son of James Simon the Zealot Simon the Zealot Simon who was called the Zealot Judas Iscariot Judas Iscariot Judas Iscariot  
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    Ebn Tie me yeah got a reaction from B-N in 12 Imams Declaring Their Divine Appointment   
    I believe stupidity has a limit! you always ask stupid questions to make you feel good. You are the same ugly Jinn that was lectured on the plight of the Ahlul Bayt and the historical setting.
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    Ebn Tie me yeah got a reaction from TheIslamHistory in Barelvi Sunnis   
    Perhaps you have not read his book. He wrote a book to refute Madoodi's famous work. In that your Mufti in defence of Ameer ul Nawasib, called a Sahabi of the Prophet Õáì Çááå Úáíå æÂáå a rafidhi and even quoted  the Mother ie Ayesha suggesting to her murid the Ameer of Nawasib to throw Hazrat Hujr bin Adi into the prison  (ra) so he may succumb to disease and die (MaazAllah). I can see he clearly hated the great Hujr bin Adi (ra).
     
     
    Yes we curse the oppressors not unlike you, who glorify and love him. Your scholars even did Taraddi on Marwan (la). You love the enemies of the Prophet Õáì Çááå Úáíå æÂáå and aren't you ashamed of abusing the term Sunnah?  Banu Ummayah was the accursed tree and our Prophet Õáì Çááå Úáíå æÂáå hates them and cursed them, they are like monkeys climbing on the pulpits of the Prophet Õáì Çááå Úáíå æÂáå. There are many narrations. If you are truly "Sunni" you would follow them.
     
    All I can say is that your sect commits treason against the Prophet Õáì Çááå Úáíå æÂáå but associating him with oppressors and calling them companions? even Marwan (la) who was banished from Madeena. Ya Allah, how unjustly you associate Marwan and his father Hakam as companions of the Prophet Õáì Çááå Úáíå æÂáå!
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    Ebn Tie me yeah got a reaction from Rasul in 12 Imams Declaring Their Divine Appointment   
    I believe stupidity has a limit! you always ask stupid questions to make you feel good. You are the same ugly Jinn that was lectured on the plight of the Ahlul Bayt and the historical setting.
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    Ebn Tie me yeah got a reaction from Abu 3antar in Deadly Lebanon Blast In Beirut   
    What? I thought the Shi'as of Ameer ul Mumineen (as) vanquished them in Jamal. After a good old thousand years, we will meet them again in Jamal II, the Return of the Mother!
     
    Overthrow what? the bomb exploded in a Shi'i dominated stronghold of Hizbollah, not the Sunni Ummayad Square. Someone is living in a dreamland. Its time Hezbollah go wahabi hunting in Lebanon ;) 
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    Ebn Tie me yeah got a reaction from ImAli in Deadly Lebanon Blast In Beirut   
    What? I thought the Shi'as of Ameer ul Mumineen (as) vanquished them in Jamal. After a good old thousand years, we will meet them again in Jamal II, the Return of the Mother!
     
    Overthrow what? the bomb exploded in a Shi'i dominated stronghold of Hizbollah, not the Sunni Ummayad Square. Someone is living in a dreamland. Its time Hezbollah go wahabi hunting in Lebanon ;) 
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    Ebn Tie me yeah got a reaction from akamp in Deadly Lebanon Blast In Beirut   
    What? I thought the Shi'as of Ameer ul Mumineen (as) vanquished them in Jamal. After a good old thousand years, we will meet them again in Jamal II, the Return of the Mother!
     
    Overthrow what? the bomb exploded in a Shi'i dominated stronghold of Hizbollah, not the Sunni Ummayad Square. Someone is living in a dreamland. Its time Hezbollah go wahabi hunting in Lebanon ;) 
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    Ebn Tie me yeah reacted to CLynn in Successor Of Prophet Isa Ibn Maryam (As)   
    There is this widespread misunderstanding as regards Paul
    Paul did not do away with any law.  Jesus does away with the law of sin and death... with the laws of the flesh, and leads us to something higher.
    [*  under the law of sin and death, the law of the flesh]
    because people do not understand what it is that Paul is saying, they have a misconception of Paul
    He is saying that we are saved from the flesh through Jesus Christ who brings us to God, to our salvation, through love and sacrifice.
    For here are the words of Paul, and one must be careful to understand the message.
    (I have used a combined KJV and NIV to makes its meaning easier to read and understand)
    What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
    2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
    3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
    4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
    5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
    6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
    7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.
    8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:
    9 For we know that since Christ was raised from the dead, he cannot die again; death no longer has mastery over him. 10 The death he died, he died to sin once for all; but the life he lives, he lives to God.

    11 In the same way, count yourselves dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus. 12 Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its evil desires. 13 Do not offer any part of yourself to sin as an instrument of wickedness, but rather offer yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life; and offer every part of yourself to him as an instrument of righteousness. 14 For sin shall no longer be your master, because you are not under the law [* see my note on this], but under grace.
    15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.

    16 Don’t you know that when you offer yourselves to someone as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one you obey—whether you are slaves to sin, which leads to death, or to obedience, which leads to righteousness? 17 But thanks be to God that, though you used to be slaves to sin, you have come to obey from your heart the pattern of teaching that has now claimed your allegiance. 18 You have been set free from sin[laws of the flesh] and have become slaves to righteousness.
    19 I speak after the manner of men because of the infirmity of your flesh: for as ye have yielded your members servants to uncleanness and to iniquity unto iniquity; even so now yield your members servants to righteousness unto holiness.
     20 When you were slaves to sin, you were free from the control of righteousness.
    21 What fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? for the end of those things is death.
    22 But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of God, the benefit you reap leads to holiness, and the result is eternal life. 23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
     
     
    You have to understand what "saved by faith" means.
    Faith... love of Christ, love of God's sacrifice made for our sake... leads us to do what is right, by which we are saved.
    People totally miss the message... the message of the Christ... the sacrifice.
     
    Salaam to all.
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    Ebn Tie me yeah got a reaction from akramabbas in Barelvi Sunnis   
    Perhaps you have not read his book. He wrote a book to refute Madoodi's famous work. In that your Mufti in defence of Ameer ul Nawasib, called a Sahabi of the Prophet Õáì Çááå Úáíå æÂáå a rafidhi and even quoted  the Mother ie Ayesha suggesting to her murid the Ameer of Nawasib to throw Hazrat Hujr bin Adi into the prison  (ra) so he may succumb to disease and die (MaazAllah). I can see he clearly hated the great Hujr bin Adi (ra).
     
     
    Yes we curse the oppressors not unlike you, who glorify and love him. Your scholars even did Taraddi on Marwan (la). You love the enemies of the Prophet Õáì Çááå Úáíå æÂáå and aren't you ashamed of abusing the term Sunnah?  Banu Ummayah was the accursed tree and our Prophet Õáì Çááå Úáíå æÂáå hates them and cursed them, they are like monkeys climbing on the pulpits of the Prophet Õáì Çááå Úáíå æÂáå. There are many narrations. If you are truly "Sunni" you would follow them.
     
    All I can say is that your sect commits treason against the Prophet Õáì Çááå Úáíå æÂáå but associating him with oppressors and calling them companions? even Marwan (la) who was banished from Madeena. Ya Allah, how unjustly you associate Marwan and his father Hakam as companions of the Prophet Õáì Çááå Úáíå æÂáå!
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    Ebn Tie me yeah got a reaction from TheIslamHistory in A Call For Debate With Shia On Imamah 2013   
    I was a member there in their forum. They are bunch of losers. They can only envy us.
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    Ebn Tie me yeah got a reaction from Muslim2010 in Did The Prophet (S) Appoint A Successor?   
    Your Quranist agenda wont work here, we have 1400 years of history to talk about. You have taken that Quranic verse out of context. We have loads of ahadith if you are the follower of our Master Mustafa (sawa) to support our claim.
     
    Sura 5:3 was revealed to reflect the completion of the deen through the establishment of the wilayat of Ameer ul Mumineen (as).
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    Ebn Tie me yeah reacted to Ali Musaaa :) in Successor Of Prophet Isa Ibn Maryam (As)   
    Brother Qa'im made an interesting thread about this. Insha'Allah he will link you to it if he sees this thread.
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    Ebn Tie me yeah got a reaction from TheIslamHistory in Imam Ali (As) Did Not Pray Under The Abu Bakr.   
    We should not waste our time with this person, we do not share the same religion with you. Yours is a different Islam. We are not "ehsan farmosh" like you and your sect. Who brought you Islam? Who is Syeda Fatima (alaihisalam)? 
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    Ebn Tie me yeah got a reaction from Muslim2010 in Khalid Bin Walid   
    @Ugly Jin,
     
    I have given you sufficient examples, Khalid bin Walid did not commit genocide during the time of the Prophet (sawa), so naturally he wouldnt have punished him. There was only one incident of Khums.
     
     Shi'is were persecuted by the ruling sunnis and all sorts of lies and accusations were thrown at us. From Ibn Saba to the bizarre story of Hz Jibrail (as) making a mistake. Many shi'is starting from Hz Hujr bin Adi (ra), Hz Maytham Al-Tammar (ra) were murdered and this bloodbath continued in an epic scale. You compare us to Hindus? We have survived the Sunni tyrannical rule for a long time. 
     
     
    The discussion on the sanad has already been given by Skamran. 
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