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    Ebn Tie me yeah got a reaction from Muslim2010 in 12 Imams Declaring Their Divine Appointment   
    Vigilare,
     
    I thought you were praised for your knowledge, i am baffled by your statement! 
     
    Which companion are you referring to? Who did not know
     
    Dont define the word "sahabi" according to the Ummavis (read "Sunnis"), even a 2 year old toddler who has seen the Prophet (sawa) is known as a companion, what a joke!  
     
    It is super clear that All the REAL companions of the Prohet (sawa) were aware about the claim made by Ameer ul Mumineen (as). Have you read Tabri? read the chapter on Shura.
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    Ebn Tie me yeah got a reaction from Abdul Qaim in Video: Fsa Digs Up Graves, Throws Out Remains   
    Such disrespect! May the Curse of Allah be on those who disrespect graves and the grave-digging wahabis!
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    Ebn Tie me yeah got a reaction from Abu Nur in Video: Fsa Digs Up Graves, Throws Out Remains   
    Such disrespect! May the Curse of Allah be on those who disrespect graves and the grave-digging wahabis!
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    Ebn Tie me yeah got a reaction from aliasghark in Video: Fsa Digs Up Graves, Throws Out Remains   
    Such disrespect! May the Curse of Allah be on those who disrespect graves and the grave-digging wahabis!
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    Ebn Tie me yeah got a reaction from Muslim2010 in The 14 Righteous Companions Of The Prophet Õáì Çááå Úáíå æÂáå   
    Assalamualaikum,
     
    I found this article by an honest Sunni, May Allah reward him. Please see below the article and the particular emphasis of the 14 Righteous Companions.
     
    This article is on Ibn Saba (la) but i find it relevant to point out the 14 Companions.
     
    Attacking Two of Most Beloved Companions of the Prophet (PBUH&HF) and Their Disciples  

    Sayf alleged that Ibn Saba is the one who instigated the two prominent companions of the Prophet Muhammad, namely Abu Dhar (RA) and Ammar Ibn Yasir (RA), against Uthman. He said this Jew met Abu Dhar in Damascus, and that he introduced to him the idea of prohibiting treasuring gold and silver. Sayf included the following great companions of prophet and their disciples, among the list of the followers of Ibn Saba:

    (1) Abu Dhar (RA),
    (2) Ammar Ibn Yasir (RA),
    (3) Muhammad Ibn Abi Bakr (RA), son of the first Caliph,
    (4) Malik Ashtar (RA).

    ... and more

    To better understand the heresy of Sayf and his allegation, let us quickly review the biography of the above great Muslim pioneers:

    (1) Abu Dhar al-Ghafari (Jundub Ibn Jonadah): He is the THIRD person in the list of the four pioneers who first embraced Islam. He was a monotheist even before his conversion. He frankly declared his faith in Islam at Mecca beside the Holy House of God. The infidels of Mecca beat him almost to death but he survived, and on the instruction of the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH&HF) he returned to his tribe.

    After the Battles of Badr and Uhud he came to Medina and stayed with Prophet until the demise of the Prophet (PBUH&HF). During the reign of the early Caliphs, Abu Dhar was sent to Damascus where he could not agree with Muawiyah. Later Muawiyah complained about Abu Dhar to Uthman, the third Caliph, and thus Uthman sent Abu Dhar into exile at Rabadha where he later died. Rabadha was known for having the worst climate.

    (2) Ammar Ibn Yasir: He was also known as Abuyaqzan. His mother's name was Somayyah. He and his parents were pioneers in embracing Islam, and he was the SEVENTH person to declare his faith. His parents were executed after the torture by the infidels of Mecca, because of their conversion to Islam, but Ammar managed to escape to Medina.

    Ammar fought on Imam Ali's side in the battle of Jamal (Camel) and later in the war of Siffin where he was killed in the battle field by Muawiyah soldiers, at the age of ninety-three.

    (3) Muhammad Ibn Abi Bakr: He was adopted by Imam Ali after his father, Abu Bakr, died. Muhammad was one of the commanders of the army of Imam Ali (AS) in the battle of Camel. He was also in the battle of Siffin. Imam Ali appointed him as the governor of Egypt, and he took his office 15/9/37 AH. 

    Later, Muawiyah sent an army under the leadership of Amr Ibn al-Aas to Egypt in the year 38 AH, who fought and captured Muhammad, and then killed him. His body was placed in a belly of a dead donkey and then was brutally burnt. (See al-Istiab, v1, p235; History of al-Tabari, v4, p79; Ibn Kathir, v3, p180; Ibn Khaldoon, v2, p182)

    (4) Malik Ashtar al-Nakha'i: He met the Prophet and was one of the trustworthy disciple of companions (Tabe'in). He was chief of his tribe, and after receiving an injury to one of his eyes in the battle of Yarmuk, he became known as Ashtar.

    He was the general of the army of Imam Ali in the battle of Siffin and known for his bravery and combating the enemies of Islam. At the age of 38, he was appointed by Imam Ali as the governor of Egypt. But on his way to Egypt, near the Red Sea, he died after eating poisonous honey which had been planned by Muawiyah.

    The above were the short bibliographies of some eminent Muslim pioneers. It is regrettable that some historians who reported from Sayf's heresy, allege that they followed a mysterious Jew. The mercenary workers did not even hesitate to attack such outstanding companions. 

    They said that Abu Dhar and Ammar Ibn Yasir met Ibn Saba, were affected by his propaganda, and thus turned against Uthman. However, we should not forget that by their attacking those two prominent companions, they are actually attacking the Messenger of God who attested to their purity and righteousness frequently:

    The Messenger of God said: "Certainly Allah commanded me to love four persons and informed me that He loves them." The companions asked: "O' Messenger of God, who are those four persons?" The Prophet (PBUH&HF) said: "Ali is from them (repeating that three times), Abu Dhar, Salman al-Farsi, and Miqdad."

    Sunni references:

    - Sunan Ibn Majah, v1, pp 52-53, Tradition #149
    - al-Mustadrak, by al-Hakim, v3, p130
    - Musnad Ahmad Ibn Hanbal, v5, p356
    - Fada'il al-Sahaba, by Ahmad Ibn Hanbal, v2, p648, Tradition #1103
    - Hilyatul Awliya', by Abu Nu'aym, v1, p172

    The Messenger of Allah also said:

    "Every prophet was given by God seven righteous companions. I was given fourteen righteous companions". He included in them Ali, al- Hasan, al-Husain, Hamza, Ja'far, Ammar Ibn Yasir, Abu Dhar, Miqdad, and Salman. 

    Sunni references:

    - Fada'il al-Sahaba, by Ahmad Ibn Hanbal, v2, Traditions #109, #277
    - Sahih al-Tirmidhi, v5, p329, p662
    - Musnad Ahmad Ibn Hanbal, v1, pp88,148,149 from several chain of narrators
    - al-Kabir, by al-Tabarani, v6, p264, p265
    - Hilyatul Awliya', by Abu Nu'aym, v1, p128 

    Also al-Tirmidhi, Ahmad, al-Hakim and many others narrated that the Messenger of Allah said:

    "Heaven has not shaded, nor has the earth carried a person more straight forward than Abu Dhar. He walks on earth with the immaterialistic attitude of Jesus, the son of Mary."

    Sunni reference:

    - Sahih al-Tirmidhi, v5, p334, Tradition #3889
    - Tahdhib al-Athar, v4, pp 158-161
    - Musnad Ahmad Hanbal, #6519, #6630, #7078
    - al-Mustadrak, by al-Hakim, v3, p342
    - al-Tabaqat, by Ibn Sa'd, v4, part 1, pp 167-168
    - Majma' al-Zawa'id, by al-Haythami, v9, pp 329-330

    Ibn Majah, in his authentic Sunan, narrated that Imam Ali said:

    I was sitting in the house of the Prophet and Ammar asked to see him. Then Prophet said: "Welcome the good and the purified." Ibn Majah also narrated that Aisha narrated that the Messenger of God said "Whenever Ammar is given two alternatives, he always chooses the most righteous of the two."

    There are much more authentic narrations told by the Prophet (PBUH&HF) about Ammar, such as "Ammar is full of faith." Also Prophet said:

    "A band of rebels will kill Ammar."

    Sunni references:

    - Sahih Muslim, English version, Chapter # MCCV, pp 1508-1509, Trditions #6966-6970 (five traditions).

    - al-Mustadrak, by al-Hakim, v3, p383

    Now to see who those rebels were, look at Musnad Ahmad and Tabaqat Ibn Sa'd who narrated:

    "In the Battle of Siffin, when the head of Ammar Yasir (RA) was cut off and taken to Muawiyah, two people were arguing over it, each one claimed that he had killed Ammar."

    Sunni references:

    - Musnad Ahmad (Pub. in Dar al-Maarif, Egypt 1952), Tradition #6538, #6929 - Tabaqat, by Ibn Sa'd, v3, p253

    Also it is narrated that the Messenger of Allah (PBUH&HF) said:

    "Paradise longs for three men, Ali, Ammar and Salman."

    Sunni reference: Sahih al-Tirmidhi, v5, p332, Tradition #3884

    Moreover al-Tirmidhi narrated:

    When the Messenger of God heard that Ammar and his parents were tortured in Mecca, he (PBUH&HF) said: "Members of Yasir's family, be patient. Your destination is paradise."

    Sunni Reference: Sahih al-Tirmidhi, v5, p233, Thus, Ammar and his parents were the first people declared by the Prophet to be dwellers of paradise.

    Here we should say: When a Muslim knows that the Prophet has commended these two important companions (Abu Dhar & Ammar Ibn Yasir) so highly, and if he is a believer in the truthfulness of Muhammad, he does not allow himself to insult these two companions.

    Such an insult discredits the Prophet. As we just saw, the above authentic traditions in the six Sunni collections claim that Prophet said he has only four or fourteen righteous companions, out of his 1400 companions. Interestingly enough that Abu Dhar and Ammar Ibn Yasir were mentioned among those very few individuals.

    We find that the hostility of Sayf Ibn Umar al-Tamimi, who lived during the second century after the Prophet, and the hostility of his students towards the Shi'ites, motivated them to spread such cheap propaganda. Sayf knew that attributing the revolt against Uthman to the work of Ibn Saba contradicts known historical facts which show that the two companions, Abu Dhar and Ammar, were opposed to Uthman's ever coming to power. 

    Because Sayf knew of their opposition to Uthman, he tried to smear their reputations by adding the names of the two prominent companions to the list of students of that fictitious Jew.

    If Ibn Saba ever existed, he had declared his Islam after Uthman was killed. Now let us suppose we accept what Sayf alleged concerning that Abdullah Ibn Saba declared his faith after Uthman came to power. Abu Dhar and Ammar Ibn Yasir, on the other hand, had been opposed to Uthman's caliphate before he came to power.

    The two companions were followers of the Imam Ali (AS), and they firmly believed that Ali was appointed by the Prophet to be his successor. Since this was their belief before the appearance of Ibn Saba, the story of Sayf about their being influenced by Ibn Saba, is unfounded and untrue.

    Thus, in order to clear the third caliph from all accusations pertaining to his ill-management of the Islamic treasury, Sayf accused the revolters being the students of Ibn Saba. He then completed his story by adding the two companions to the class of Ibn Saba's students, intentionally overlooking the fact that the two companions belong to the first successful class of the school of the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH&HF).

    They were among the important companions who were honored by the Prophet. In fact, Sayf was led by his untrue story to reject the testimony of the Prophet. By this, Sayf had disproved his whole tale.
       
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    Ebn Tie me yeah got a reaction from md. ammar ali in Will It Be Sin, If A Shia Man Marry A Revert?   
    I never knew men also break promises. 
     
    If he truly loved you, a man will not abandon his lover, i dont need to teach you, there are wholesome Bollywood movies to watch. 
     
    So i advise you to remove the family name "abidi", the shias of the sub-continent are very strange with very shallow mind, they are fanatical about being Syed or Abidi, Zaidi,Jafri, Kazmi,Rizvi and Naqvi. If you see any family names with those i have shown you, please avoid them. Most of them do not even perform Namaz but busy themselves with Majalis during Muharram. Muslim only in name. 
     
    They are proud to be known Syed or Syeda but their characters do not reflect those of the Family of the Prophet (sawa). Pray for guidance and if you parents insist you marry a Hindu, You may tell him (ie hindu) that you are Muslim and if he wants to marry you, tell him to convert. 
     
    Born Muslims create hell lot of drama of caste and Family Dignity better find a revert Muslim who follows the Ahle Bayt and marry him. 
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    Ebn Tie me yeah got a reaction from TheIslamHistory in Insulting The Companions   
    Brother i have even seen it in Shia books, so leave him alone.lol
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    Ebn Tie me yeah got a reaction from b4s1t in Will It Be Sin, If A Shia Man Marry A Revert?   
    I never knew men also break promises. 
     
    If he truly loved you, a man will not abandon his lover, i dont need to teach you, there are wholesome Bollywood movies to watch. 
     
    So i advise you to remove the family name "abidi", the shias of the sub-continent are very strange with very shallow mind, they are fanatical about being Syed or Abidi, Zaidi,Jafri, Kazmi,Rizvi and Naqvi. If you see any family names with those i have shown you, please avoid them. Most of them do not even perform Namaz but busy themselves with Majalis during Muharram. Muslim only in name. 
     
    They are proud to be known Syed or Syeda but their characters do not reflect those of the Family of the Prophet (sawa). Pray for guidance and if you parents insist you marry a Hindu, You may tell him (ie hindu) that you are Muslim and if he wants to marry you, tell him to convert. 
     
    Born Muslims create hell lot of drama of caste and Family Dignity better find a revert Muslim who follows the Ahle Bayt and marry him. 
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    Ebn Tie me yeah got a reaction from Modest Muslim in Insulting The Companions   
    We are talking about the Chief of the Women in Paradise, hope people in your sect know that it is not Ayesha.  According to Imam Malik, Syeda Kainat Fatima Al-Zahra Siddiqa (as) has the highest place in the sight of Allah after our Messenger (sawa). 
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    Ebn Tie me yeah got a reaction from akramabbas in Insulting The Companions   
    We are talking about the Chief of the Women in Paradise, hope people in your sect know that it is not Ayesha.  According to Imam Malik, Syeda Kainat Fatima Al-Zahra Siddiqa (as) has the highest place in the sight of Allah after our Messenger (sawa). 
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    Ebn Tie me yeah reacted to IbnSohan in Zurara Ibn A'yun   
    Zurarah bin A'yun bin Sensen, his name is AbduRabih and Zurarah is his title. His father A'yun was a Roman slave who was freed by his owner after he learned the Quran, his grandfather Sensen was a Christian monk in the Roman lands.
    Alnajashi said about Zurarah : He was the shykh of our fellow Shia (our as'hab) in his time and the best among them, he was reciter, a faqih (knows the laws and rules), debater (Mutakalim) a poet and eloquent. He had gathered in himself the good traits of nobility and religiousness, he was true in what he narrated. He lived in Kufah and died in 150 after hijrah. His name appeared in 2211 chains of isnad of narrations.
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    Ebn Tie me yeah got a reaction from shiamehdi14 in Insulting The Companions   
    We are talking about the Chief of the Women in Paradise, hope people in your sect know that it is not Ayesha.  According to Imam Malik, Syeda Kainat Fatima Al-Zahra Siddiqa (as) has the highest place in the sight of Allah after our Messenger (sawa). 
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    Ebn Tie me yeah reacted to TheIslamHistory in Verse 4:59 - Ulil Amr.   
    Don't Worry, I actually Will later on prove that its Sahih, you can see they give no proof when they mention Why its Munkar.
    Really Ironic, I will prove that Ibn taiyaimha Also Approved the Hadith. Inshalla.
    Inshalla When I will reply soon.  :)
    (salam)
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    Ebn Tie me yeah reacted to Rasul in Verse 4:59 - Ulil Amr.   
    رقم الحديث: 18485

    (حديث مرفوع) حَدَّثَنَا أَحْمَدُ بْنُ يَحْيَى الصُّوفِيُّ ، قَالَ : ثنا الْحَسَنُ بْنُ الْحُسَيْنِ الأَنْصَارِيُّ ، قَالَ : ثنا مُعَاذُ بْنُ مُسْلِمٍ بَيَّاعُ الْهَرَوِيِّ ، عَنْ عَطَاءِ بْنِ السَّائِبِ ، عَنْ سَعِيدِ بْنِ جُبَيْرٍ ، عَنِ ابْنِ عَبَّاسٍ ، قَالَ : " لَمَّا نَزَلَتْ إِنَّمَا أَنْتَ مُنْذِرٌ وَلِكُلِّ قَوْمٍ هَادٍ سورة الرعد آية 7 ، وَضَعَ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ يَدَهُ عَلَى صَدْرِهِ ، فَقَالَ : " أَنَا الْمُنْذِرُ ، وَلِكُلِّ قَوْمٍ هَادٍ " . وَأَوْمَأَ بِيَدِهِ إِلَى مَنْكِبِ عَلِيٍّ فَقَالَ : " أَنْتَ الْهَادِي يَا عَلِيُّ ، بِكَ يَهْتَدِي الْمُهْتَدُونَ بَعْدِي " . وَقَالَ آخَرُونَ : مَعْنَاهُ : لِكُلِّ قَوْمٍ دَاعٍ


    Ibn Jarir Al-Tabari, Dzhamiul Bayan, Surah Thunder, verse 7.

    Narrated Ibn Abbas: When the verse was sent down ( You are - just ...) Messenger of Allah (pbuh) putted his hand on his chest and said: "I am the warner." Then he pointed towards Ali and said: "You are the guide (Hadi) Oh Ali! With your help will find the path those who will find the right path.
     
     
     
     
    Fath al-Bari by Ibn Hajar Asqalani, 8/376 we read that Hadith mentioned by Jarir al-Tabari in ''Dzhamiul Bayan'' is Hassan (Good)



     
    والمستغرب ما أخرجه الطبري بإسناد حسن من طريق سعيد بن جبير عن ابن عباس قال لما نزلت هذه الآية وضع رسول الله - صلى الله عليه وسلم - يده على صدره وقال : أنا المنذر . وأومأ إلى علي وقال أنت الهادي بك يهتدي المهتدون بعدي
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    Ebn Tie me yeah reacted to TheIslamHistory in Insulting The Companions   
    What are you trying to say?
    Says the person Who gave Ahadith which do not have proper References?
     
     
    The issue Rises, How does an Infant die on the same day when the house was burnt?
    And no, Umar's action does not make him innocent.
     
    Not Convinced:
     
    حديث مخيف وهو متكرر في جميع هذه الكتب وهو ينص ويثبت بأن  عمر بن الخطاب  قد رفس بنت الرسول(ص) السيدة فاطمة (ع) في بطنها حتى اسقطت جنينها ، وايضا قام بحرق دارها
    تفضلوا هذه هي المصادر
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    إبن حجر - لسان الميزان - الجزء : ( 1 ) - رقم الصفحة : 268
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    الذهبي - ميزان الإعتدال - الجزء : ( 1 ) - رقم الصفحة : 139
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    - أحمد بن محمد بن السري بن يحيى المعروف ب : إبن أبي دارم : قال محمد بن أحمد بن حماد الكوفي فيما قال : ...... ثم كان في آخر أيامه كان أكثر ما يقرأ عليه المثالب . حضرته ورجل يقرأ عليه : إن عمر رفس فاطمة حتى أسقطت بمحسن
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    الذهبي - سير أعلام النبلاء - الجزء : ( 15 ) - رقم الصفحة : 578
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    - ....... قال الحاكم : وقال محمد بن حماد الحافظ ، كان مستقيم الامر عامة دهره ، ثم في آخر أيامه كان أكثر ما يقرأ عليه المثالب ، حضرته ورجل يقرأ عليه أن عمر رفس فاطمة حتى أسقطت محسنا
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    الشهرستاني - الملل والنحل - الجزء : ( 1 ) - رقم الصفحة : 57
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    - إن عمر ضرب بطن فاطمة (ع) يوم البيعة حتى ألقت الجنين من بطنها وكان يصيح : أحرقوا دارها بمن فيها . وما كان في الدار غير علي وفاطمة والحسن والحسين (ع) .
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    اليعقوبي - تاريخ اليعقوبي - الجزء : ( 2 ) - رقم الصفحة : 126 
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    - وبلغ أبا بكر وعمر أن جماعة من المهاجرين والانصار قد إجتمعوا مع علي بن أبي طالب في منزل فاطمة بنت رسول الله ، فأتوا في جماعة حتى هجموا الدار ، وخرج علي ومعه السيف ، فلقيه عمر ، فصارعه عمر فصرعه ، وكسر سيفه ، ودخلوا الدار فخرجت فاطمة فقالت : والله لتخرجن أو لاكشفن شعري ولا عجن إلى الله ! فخرجوا وخرج من كان في الدار وأقام القوم
    - ثم قام عمر ، فمشى معه جماعة ، حتى أتوا باب فاطمة ، فدقوا الباب ، فلما سمعت أصواتهم نادت بأعلى صوتها : يا أبت يا رسول الله ، ماذا لقينا بعدك من إبن الخطاب وإبن أبي قحافة ، فلما سمع القوم صوتها وبكاءها ، انصرفوا باكين ، وكادت قلوبهم تنصدع ، وأكبادهم تنفطر ، وبقي عمر ومعه قوم ، فأخرجوا عليا ، فمضوا به إلى أبي بكر
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    الشيخ محمد فاضل المسعودي - الأسرار الفاطمية - رقم الصفحة : 123
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    - وقال : إن عمر ضرب بطن فاطمة يوم البيعة ، حتى ألقت المحسن من بطنها . وعن لسان الميزان : إن عمر رفس فاطمة (ع) حتى أسقطت بمحسن
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    صلاح الدين الصفدي - الوافي بالوفيات - الجزء : ( 1 ) - رقم الصفحة : 57
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    - إستدرك على كتاب ( وفيات الأعيان ) لابن خلكان ، وقد ترجم فيه النظام المعتزلي إبراهيم بن سيار البصري (160ـ 231هـ). وقال: قالت المعتزلة إنما لقب ذلك النظام لحسن كلامه نظما ونثرا ، وكان إبن أخت أبي هذيل العلاف شيخ المعتزلة ، وكان شديد الذكاء ، ونقل آراءه ، فقال : أن عمر ضرب بطن فاطمة يوم البيعة حتى ألقت المحسن في بطنها
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    الصفدي - الوافي للوفيات - الجزء : ( 6 ) - رقم الصفحة : 15
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    - وقال إن عمر ضرب بطن فاطمة يوم لبيعة حتى ألقت المحسن من بطنها
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    الطبري - الرياض النظرة - الجزء : ( 1 ) - رقم الصفحة : ( 241 ) - نشر دار الكتب العلمية - بيروت
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    - فجاء عمر في عصابة ، منهم اسيد بن خصير ، وسلمة بن سلامة بن وقش ، وهما من بني عبد الأشهل ، فصاحت فاطمة (ع) وناشدتهم الله ، فأخذوا سيفي علي ، والزبير ، فضربوا بهما الجدار حتى كسروهما ، ثم أخرجهما عمر يسوقهما
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    إبن أبي الحديد - شرح نهج البلاغة - الجزء : ( 6 ) - رقم الصفحة : 49
    [ النص طويل لذا إستقطع منه موضع الشاهد ]
    - ........ ورأت فاطمة ما صنع عمر . فصرخت وولولت ، واجتمع معها نساء كثير من الهاشميات وغيرهن ، فخرجت إلى باب حجرتها ، ونادت ، يا أبا بكر ، ما أسرع ما أغرتم على أهل بيت رسول الله ، والله لا أكلم عمر حتى ألقى الله
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    علي الخليلي - أبو بكر بن أبي قحافة - رقم الصفحة : 317
    [ النص طويل لذا إستقطع منه موضع الشاهد ]
    - كما نقل صلاح الدين خليل بن أيبك الصفدي في الوافي بالوفيات ضمن حرف الألف كلمات وعقائد إبراهيم بن سيار بن هاني البصري المعروف بالنظام المعتزلي إلى أن قال النظام : إن عمر ضرب بطن فاطمة يوم البيعة حتى ألقت المحسن من بطنها ، وهكذا تجد مما أخرجه البلاذري والطبري وإبن خزاية وإبن عبد ربه والجوهري والمسعودي والنظام وإبن أبي الحديد وإبن قتيبة وإبن شحنة والحافظ إبراهيم وغيرهم تثبت ان عليا وبني هاشم وأخص الصحابة انما بايعوا بعد التهديد وبعد اجبارهم قسرا ، وأن أبا بكر وعمر بالغا بالظلم والقسر لأخذ البيعة
    (salam)
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    Ebn Tie me yeah got a reaction from Rasul in 12 Imams Declaring Their Divine Appointment   
    Vigilare,
     
    I thought you were praised for your knowledge, i am baffled by your statement! 
     
    Which companion are you referring to? Who did not know
     
    Dont define the word "sahabi" according to the Ummavis (read "Sunnis"), even a 2 year old toddler who has seen the Prophet (sawa) is known as a companion, what a joke!  
     
    It is super clear that All the REAL companions of the Prohet (sawa) were aware about the claim made by Ameer ul Mumineen (as). Have you read Tabri? read the chapter on Shura.
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    Ebn Tie me yeah got a reaction from TheIslamHistory in Verse 4:59 - Ulil Amr.   
    You and your "sahih" ahadith. There is no particular science about it, narrators are weakened by their tashayyu' 
     
    Show me proof that the warner and guide is the Prophet (sawa), produce to me a narration?
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    Ebn Tie me yeah got a reaction from Muslim2010 in Who Are The Blind?   
    Can you provide any narration on this point? You invalidated all the narrations with one Quranic verse, how convenient
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    Ebn Tie me yeah got a reaction from syeduddin in Putin And Iranian Are Abject Chaploos Cowards   
    You and your Zaid Hamid conspiracy theories. you should be banned. 
     
    Your blind love for Aale Saud is baffling!
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    Ebn Tie me yeah got a reaction from Brained in 12 Imams Declaring Their Divine Appointment   
    First you asked me to prove, I referred you to a book. I have stated clearly that people were aware who was the Imam of the Rafidha. You ask me for a hadith, there are 100+ ahadith to prove the wilayat of Ameer ul Mumineen (as).
     
    First, are you prepared to accept those ahadith regarding Ghadeer? If the answer is YES, that Wilayat/Imamat is the exclusive right of Ameer ul Mumineen (as), then we can proceed to the next Imam.
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    Ebn Tie me yeah got a reaction from Hasan0404 in Putin And Iranian Are Abject Chaploos Cowards   
    You and your Zaid Hamid conspiracy theories. you should be banned. 
     
    Your blind love for Aale Saud is baffling!
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    Ebn Tie me yeah got a reaction from Jamal Al Hasan in Putin And Iranian Are Abject Chaploos Cowards   
    You and your Zaid Hamid conspiracy theories. you should be banned. 
     
    Your blind love for Aale Saud is baffling!
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    Ebn Tie me yeah reacted to TheIslamHistory in Who Are The Blind?   
    Refute? sorry did you say Refute? Do you identity Assumption and free of talk in your case a source of Reply? or Refutation in Proof? Which you have not provided ANY source of Authentic Hadith to Go against My stance, I gave 10 SAHIH or More SAHIH narrations on "Appointing a Successor" and than because you had no reply, You decide you give me a Site that is a "WAHABI" site since it mentions Ibn Taymaiah, therefore if you accept his Narrations, then you are a Nasibi. Ay any case I Will prove you wrong on your stance, and whether you want to accept it or not UMAR AND ABU BAKR Will be held accountable on the day of judgement for the Atrocities Against the prophet Úáíå ÇáÓáÇã and His Ahlulbayt (s).
     
     
     
    Before I go to Proving the Happening of burning the house of Ahlulbayt (s) will go to Refutation mode on the stances that you have provided me from the the posts "Appointing a Successor".
    You will be held Accountable for every Word on this Site that you provided me with:
     
     
    The First claim that this claims is the following:
     
    Statement:
    . Imaam ash-Shaafi’ee and other Ulemaa stated that we should not narrate from the Raafidhah Shee’ah as they are amongst the liars.
     
     
    You not only claim that we are liars but mashalla we are All lairs. Brother you have no respect, if I was going to go to a site an post things to you and propose them to you, do you think it would be wise to post something the offends the person? In this manner? Can you give a post from me that I have given you ONE hadith that Sunnis are liars? I don't care what Malki says, I don't care what Shafii says, I don't care what Hanafi says, say everything about us and we still don't care, and because you are trying to act smart, let me tell you why we are call Rafidi.
     
    I will enlighten you and the viewers by citing the following Sunni sources:
    1. Al-Ghunyat liTalibin, Volume 1 page 409
    2. Fathul Bari Sharh Sahih Bukhari Volume 14 page 450 Chapter 9
    3.  website by Safar al-Hawali
    Salafi scholar namely Safar bin Abdul-Rahman al-Hawali has written on his website:
     
    الرافضة هم الذين رفضوا خلافة الشيخين أبي بكر وعمر وزعموا أن الخلافة في علي
     
    “Rafidha are those who reject the Khilafa of Abu Bakr and Umar and claim that Ali is the Khalifa”
     
    http://www.alhawali.com/index.cfm?method=home.showfahras&ftp=firak&id=2000013
     
     
    Fatah ul Bari:
     
     
    والتشيع محبة علي وتقديمه على الصحابة فمن قدمه على أبي بكر وعمر فهو غال في تشيعه ويطلق عليه رافضي
     
     
    “Shiasm is the love of Ali and whoever prefers him over Abu Bakr and Umar is an excessive Shia also known as Rafidhi”
     
     
    Shaykh Abdul Qadir Jilani writes in his esteemed work Al-Ghunya li-Talibin (Published by Al-Baz Publishing, Inc. Hollywood, Florida):
     
     
    “As for the Shia, they are also known by several other names including Rafida. They came to be called Shia for the simple reason that they relied to support the cause of Ali and considered him superior to all of the rest of the companions. The Rafida were so called because of their rejection [Rafd] of the majority of the companions and their refusal to accept the imamate of Abu Bakar and Umar.”
     
     
     

     
     
    This establishes the reason why we are called Rafidhi, one who abandons the Shaykhayn is a Rafidhi. 
     
    Ibn Aqeel al-Hadhrami al-Shafiy’ee records in his authority work al al-Atab al-Jameel ala ahl al-Jarh wa al-Tadeel, page 33:
     
    “According to Ibn Hajr Asqalani, all those lovers of Ali that deem him to be superior to Abu Bakr and Umar are Rafidhi. The conclusion of Ibn Hajr’s research would be that many major Sahaba, such as Miqdad, Zaid bin Arqam, Abu Dharr and Burhaida, the Banu Hashim and Banu Abdul Muttalib are Rafidhi, since they were his lovers and deemed him superior to Abu Bakr and Umar”.
     
     
    And we believe with no doubt that IMAM ALI (as) is Superior to Abu bakr, NO DOUBT. 
    IF you want to call me a RAFIDI call me so, and on the day of judgment I want you to call me a RAFIDI,
    Second of All, Who said we are Quoting from Our books? This Whole Time I was Quoting from Your Sunnah
    Books, but you continue to ignore because of your love for Abu Bakr and Umar. So be it. 
     
    Wants more Ironic is that Imam Al Shafii Was a Rafidi.???
     
    Fakhruddin al-Razi Tafseer al-Kabeer Volume 13 page 433 as well as Ibn Hajjar Makki have recorded the statement of Imam of Ahl’ul Sunnah Muhammad Idris Shafi’yee:
     
     
    وقال الشافعي رضي الله عنه   ۔۔۔۔ إن كان رفضاً حب آل محمد فليشهد الثقلان أنى رافضي
     
     
    Shafi’yee (ra) said: “If a Rafidhi is one who loves the family of the Prophet (s), then I testify before the mankind and Jinns that I am a Rafidhi”
     
     
    Alhamdeollah we the lovers of Maula Ali (as) feel no offence at being called Shi’a or termed Rafidhi.
     
     
    We read in Sharh Fiqh Akbar page 63 Dhikr ‘Afzaal al Naas badh al Nabi’:
     
    “A Sunni scholar said if we believe ‘Ali to be superior it is not due to any basis rather believing that ‘Ali is superior is compulsory since his virtues are many.
     
    One individual raised an objection, one who deems ‘Ali as superior has smell of Rafidhi. Another said ‘This is a lie, that this smell of Rafdiyat (Rafidhism), if we accept the superiority of ‘Ali smells of Rafdiyath from the Sunnah, then Sunni traditions will leave no one as a Sunni, rather everyone is a Rafidhi. Do not fight in the Deen, nor abandon the truth”
     
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    Now More Surprisingly you Quoted from Ibn Tayiymah, One of The Many Scholars who Follow the "Manhaj" ( line) of Bani Ummiah, Do you read before you mention a site brother? because if your Quoting from him and keep in my, yes you are a Nasibi. So you either be-careful when you post something, or Either you are a Nasibi.
    The Site you mentioned continues my stating:
     
     
    First of All you need to know your are Quoting from a Nasibi, So can I ask you? do you follow ibn Taiyaminah? because then you are a Nasibi. Ibn Tayimiyah is knows for his Hatred towards Ahlulbayt (s) and his Silly Refutations against Ahlulbayt (s) just look at his view on Imam Ali (s):
     
     
     
    Ibn Taimiyah who is known for having a grudge against Ali bin Abi Talib (as) proudly claims that none of the Sunni jurists attained teachings from Imam Ali (as).
     
    None of the four imams nor the other of the jurists refer to him (Ali) in their jurisprudence. Verily if Malik’s knowledge was obtained from the people of Madina, the people of Madina did not take Ali’s statements. They took their jurisprudence from the seven jurists, Zaid, Umar, ibn Umar and so on.
    Shafiyee obtained jurisprudence from the people of Makka, the companions of Ibn Juraij like Saeed bin Salem al-Qadah and Muslim bin khalid al-Zenji. Ibn Juraij obtained knowledge from the companions of Ibn Abbas, like Atta and others. Verily Ibn Abbas was an independent mujtahid. Whenever he gives fatwa, according to the Sahabas, he would give the fatwa of Abu Bakr and Umar, not Ali’s. He disagreed with Ali on few things.
     
    Minhaj al-Sunnah, Volume 7 pages 529 – 530
     
     
    Look at his Pathetic view on Syeda Fatima Al Zahraa (as)
     
     
    Ibn Taimiyah’s views of Imams Hasan (as) and Hussain (as):
     
     
    ?????????????? do you accept this? if you do you are a Liar and a Nasibi.???
    and Here is Ibn Taiymiah Abusing most of the Sunni Ulma:
     
     
    And We read in Sahih Bukhari Volume 1, Book 2, Number 46:
     
    Narrated ‘Abdullah:
    The Prophet said, ‘Abusing a Muslim is Fusuq (an evil doing) and killing him is Kufr (disbelief).’
      So what does that make Ibn Tayimiya??????.......  This reference makes it crystal clear that resorting to abuse against Muslim is Fusuq. If Nawasib question why we have abused our opponents, we will make it clear that this duty concerns the abuse of Muslims. The writers of Ansar.Org or other Salafi and Nasibi bigots that we refute are not Muslims in general terms, they are Nasibis. Their writings are replete with indirect attacks on the conduct of the Ahl’ul bayt (as), constant attempts to belittle and downplay their merits and appraisals of their enemies. Nawasib have no protection under the Hadeeth. Those that have such lowly opinions of the Ahl’ul bayt (as) are not Muslims. They are munafiqs, and hence we have every right to hurl abuse at them; and we should also point out that this method of dealing with Nawasib has been vouched for by the Ulema of Ahle Sunnah such as Shah Abdul Aziz Muhadith Dehalwi. With that in mind now let us see how Ibn Taimiyah attacked his Muslim ‘brothers’. 
    Also Ibn Taimiyah abused the Sufis:
     
     
     
     
    Ibn Taimiyah abused the Mutazila
     
     
    Ibn Taimiyah abused the Asharies
     
     
     
     
     
    Ibn Taimiyah abused the Shias
     
     
     
    Ibn Taimiyah abused the Sunni scholars
     
     
     
     
    Whats more Ironic About Ibn Taiymiyah is that he Goes against anyone when if they have different opinions to him:
     
     
     
    Abusing those Muslims with limited knoweldge:
     
     
     
     
    So I ask you: is this the type of language and arrogant attitude that should be expected from a man that the Salafis/Wahabies deem ‘Shaykh ul Islam’? Let us for arguments sake accept that Ibn Taimiyah was a sincere man practicing the true faith, effectively performing dawah to those that were ‘misguided’ – is this the methodology of dawah ascribed by the Sunnah of the Prophet (s)? A methodology wherein:
     
    (1) the sexuality of opponents is alleged
    (2) opponents are decribed as animals
    (3)believers with lesser knowledge are compared to donkey
     
    Is this the Dawah methodology of the Prophet (s)? One seeking to perform dawah and correct the believers needs to be gentle in his da’wah and should not resort to the abusive language that Ibn Taimiyah does. If you look at the language of Ibn Taimiyah it is clear that his harsh, ignorant, and arrogant conduct would impress no one save his Salafi adherents. The key to be an effective communicator is to be mild, forbearing and patient; and be soft and pleasant in speech, so they have an effect upon the heart of one’s opponent. Was such gentleness an attribute of Ibn Taimiyah? Clearly not, his arrogant abusive pen proves he was anything but gentle. We even read in Sahih Muslim Book 007, Number 2793:
     
    Jabir b. ‘Abdullah reported that …. The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) was a person of gentle disposition
     
    It is no surprise that we see the followers of Ibn Taimiyah doing exactly the same today. When you speak to them you will see how arrogant and proud they are. Anyone that doesn’t ascribe to their beliefs is abused, and deemed the enemy.
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    Moving on using the same site you quoted they also we continue to read:
     
     
     
     
    Mashalla, Were All liars!, I guess I Need Question  every person about their CLAIM, with out even Researching? *Face Palm* this is absoulty Pathetic, and Who are you to say that All Shia are lairs? can you please give Evidence THAT ALL the people Shia Rafidi who love Imam Ali (s) and Ahlulbayt (s) are Lairs? Did the prophet (s) say that Every one who follows Ali Is a Lair? Or did the prophet say OBEY ALI AND THAT THE QURAN IS WITH ALI AND ALI IS WITH THE QURAN? Remember where I showed you that this is an Authentic Narrations From Mustadrak Al Hadith? What your showing me now is opinions of the Sunnis. So is Opinion considered as proof? if So? Then you must be Either no knowing, or ignorant. This Narration is from your books So how is this Hujjat on me? Second of All we only mention Hadith from your books to prove our point. Whats more Ironic the Whol Article is based in opinion and theory Against the followers of Ahlulbayt (s), I will now prove you wrong, and From your own books you will see who burnt the House of Fatima (s), and Who is the oppressor and Who is the enemy of Imam Ali (s).
    Also Whats more Facanating they mentioned the hadith from  vol 13,book maghazi, page 201,hadeeth 38061, and this is where it gets Interesting let us take a look:
     
    (1) First of All its not volume 13, its volume 20 ( If you follow up to Hadith 38061, Whats Ironic is that you take from a site the does not even give proper 
    references.
    (2) HADITH NO FOUND: 

    I then Assumed that maybe its on volume 13 and page 201 but maybe they got the 
    Number of the Hadith Wrong....But then no...it was not there....

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    We will first start with the Not so Violent hadiths from your books and than move on to the Crimes of Umar Ibn Al Khattab With Abu Bakr, and not only did they burn the house of the Fatima (s) but they broke her ribs and Killed her and in her the Mohsin (s) and Also some of the ahadith that were mentioned Earlier but you Failed to Reject:
    Hadith #1 
      Concerning you telling me that Umar did not oppress Fatima and ignoring me on my last post.
     
    أنه لما يجب على غضب عمر وأضرم النار بباب على وأحرقه ودخل فاستقبلته فاطمة وصاحت يا أبتاه ويا رسول الله فرفع عمر السيف وهو فى غمده فوجأ به جنبها المبارك ورفع السوط فضرب به ضرعها فصاحت يا أبتاه فأخذ على بتلابيب عمر وهزه ووجأ أنفه ورقبتهAlusi Baghdadi well known Sunni Mufassir [1] writes:
    ''Umar became angry and burned the door of Ali's house and broke into the house of Ali, Fatima opposed Umar and cried out : "Oh, father! O Messenger of Allah! 'Umar swunged with the sword which was in its sheath and struck the side of Fatima, and then struck her with whip in the shoulder. Fatima moaned, "Oh, father!" Ali got up from his seat and grabbed Umar's chest and threw him on the ground, then punched him in the nose and neck."
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    Sunni - Salafi References:
    Source: Ruhul -Ma'ani by Alusi Baghdadi, Volume 3, page 124,
    [1] Interpreter of the Holy Quran
     
     
     
     
     

    Also Umar threatens Fatimah - 'I will burn your House - Kill Everyone in House' ( and This was to force Imam Ali  (s) into Ba'aya.
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    Hadith 2#
     
    حدثنا : محمد بن بشر ، نا : عبيد الله بن عمر ، حدثنا : زيد بن أسلم ، عن أبيه أسلم : أنه حين بويع لأبي بكر بعد رسول الله (ص) كان علي والزبير يدخلان على فاطمة بنت رسول الله (ص) فيشاورونها ويرتجعون في أمرهم ، فلما بلغ ذلك عمر بن الخطاب خرج حتى دخل على فاطمة ، فقال : يا بنت رسول الله (ص) ، والله ما من أحد أحب إلينا من أبيك ، وما من أحد أحب إلينا بعد أبيك منك ، وأيم الله ما ذاك بمانعي إن إجتمع هؤلاء النفر عندك ، أن أمرتهم أن يحرق عليهم البيت ، قال : فلما خرج عمر جاءوها فقالت : تعلمون أن عمر قد جاءني وقد حلف بالله لئن عدتم ليحرقن عليكم البيت وأيم الله ليمضين لما حلف عليه ، فإنصرفوا راشدين ، فروا رأيكم ولا ترجعوا إلي ، فإنصرفوا عنها فلم يرجعوا إليها حتى بايعوا لأبي بكر
    Narrated Muhammad bin Bashir from Ubaidllah bin Umar from Zaid bin Aslam that his father Aslam said: ''When the homage (baya) went to Abu Bakr after the Messenger of Allah, Ali and Zubair were entering into the house of Fatima to consult her and revise their issue, so when Umar came to know about that, he went to Fatima and said : ‘Oh daughter of Messenger of Allah, no one is dearest to us more than your father and no one dearest to us after your father than you, I swear by Allah, if these people gathered in your house then nothing will prevent me from giving order to burn the house and those who are inside.’ So when Umar left, they (Ali and Zubair) came , so she (Fatima) said to them: ‘Do you know that Umar came here and swear by Allah to burn the house if you gather here, I swear by God that he (Umar) will execute his oath, so please leave wisely and take a decision and don’t gather here again.’ So they left her and didn’t gather there till they give baya to Abu Bakr.''
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    Sunni - Salafi References:
    Source: Musannaf of Ibn Abi Seybe, Volume 20, page 579, Hadith Number # 38200
    Grading: ( Sahih )
     
     
     
     
     
    Of course The Hadith That was mentioned on the site here I found, But it does not prove anything, it only claims,They they left and gave bay'a, But Ali stayed and did not give Ba'ya. the Question Remains What happen after this event??
     
     

    Hadith 3# Umar Kicks Fatima While the house was being Burnt as was trying to get inside:
    ـ قال إبراهيم ابن سيار النظام المتوفى سنة 231 : « إن عمر ضرب بطن فاطمة
    يوم البيعة حتى ألسقت الجنين من بطنها ، وكان يصيح عمر : احرقوا دارها بمن 
    فيها ، وما كان بالدار غير علي و فاطمة والحسن والحسين» 

     
     
     
    Said: Ibrahim Ibn Yasir Al Nath'im (died year 231): "That Umar Hit Fatima in the Stomach on the day of Ba'ya, Until the infant (inside her) dropped, and Umar Was yelling: "Burn their house and everyone that is inside", and in the house there was only Ali , Fatima, Hassan and Hussain.  
    Proof Hadith 3 #
     
    Al Wafi Bilwafiyat, volume 6, page 15. 
     

     
     
    Note: The Investigator had nothing to say about the Hadith: he only said: ITS A LIE",
    and what is Ironic, He did not state any form of proof. 
     

    proof hadith 4#
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    Al Malal Wa Al Nahal, Page 51


    It is worth noting the observation made in Qeraa fi kutub al-Aqaed, by Farhan Hassan al-Maliki, page 52
     
    ”However Ali’s party was smaller (in number) during the reign of Umar than the reign of Abu Bakr al-Sidiq due to his abandoning Ali on account of his breaking into Fatima’s home during Abu Bakr’s reign, and forcing some sahaba that were with Ali to give bayya to Abu Bakr, thus the memory of this dispute – that is proven via authentic chains – was deemed a painful memory which they did not like to recollect”
     
    What is even more interesting is the commentary of the margin writer who states:
     
    ”I thought that the story of breaking into (Fatima’s house) was just a lie , until I discovered reliable chains of narrations for it, such as what is been recorded by Ibn Abi Shebah in the Musanaf, anyhow neither is (the story) an exaggeration in the manner that the extremist Shia claim nor can it be denied as is the approach of the extremist Hanbalis.”
     
    So we have a Sahih chain evidencing Umar’s conduct outside the day in question, and a modern day Sunni scholar citing the same book as proof that the incident did indeed occur.

    Abu Muhammad Abdullah bin Muslim bin Qutaybah (d. 276 Hijri) who in his famous book al Imama wa al Siyasa pages 18-28 states as follows:
     
    Abu Bakr was after group of people who failed to give bayya and gathered with Ali, he sent Umar in their direction. He (Umar) called them to come out from the house of Ali, but they refused to come out. Thus (Umar) asked (his men) to bring wood, then he said: ‘I swear by He who controls the life of Umar, if you people do not come out of the house I shall set fire to it, and everyone inside shall perish. Some people said: ‘O Abu Hafs (Umar), Fatima is also in this house’. Umar replied, ‘I do not care’ Then the people came out from the house and gave bayya except Ali.
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    Sunni historian Abul Fida in his discussion on the attack on the house of Fatima ( recorded the event, in a very low key / cautious tone, but as a scholar of integrity and honesty he has refused to cover up history and has still acknowledged that the event did indeed take place and Umar threatened to burn Fatima (sa) alive:
     
     
    ثم إن أبا بكر بعث عمر بن الخطاب إِلى علي ومن معه ليخرجهم من بيت فاطمة رضي الله عنها وقال : إِن أبوا عليك فقاتلهم .فأقبل عمر بشيء من نار على أن يضرم الدار فلقيته فاطمة رضي الله عنها وقالت : إِلى أين يا ابن الخطاب
    أجئت لتحرق دارنا قال : نعم أو تدخلوا فيما دخل فيه الأمة
     
     
    Then Abu Bakr sent Umar bin Khattab to Ali and his companions with the objective that those ‘people gathered in the house of Fatima come out, and that if anyone objects to coming out then you should fight them’. Then Umar approached with fire in his hands to set the house ablaze. At this point Fatima approached and said: ‘ O son of Khattab, would do you dare?’ Do you wish to set my home on fire?’ Umar said: ‘Yes, unless if you give bayya to Abu Bakr and enter into that which the majority of the Ummah have agreed to.’
     
    Tareekh Abul Fida [Arabic], page 235
    Tareekh Abul Fida, Urdu translation by Maulana Karrem’ud Deen al Hanafi, pages 177-179

    list of Sahaba's Who tried to burn the house of Fatima (s):
     
    من من الصحابه حاول احراق بيت فاطمه وهويعلم بوجودهاملحق #1 17‏/05‏/2012 5:59:12 صوهو يعلم ان الله يرضا لرضاها ويغضب لغضبهاملحق #2 18‏/05‏/2012 12:21:46 ص1 ـ ابن أبي شيبة وكتابه «المنصّف»نقل أبو بكر بن ابي شيبة (159 ـ 235) مؤلف كتاب «المصنّف» بسنده الصحيح:
    «إنّه حين بويع لأبي بكر بعد رسول الله6 كان علي والزبير يدخلان على فاطمة بنت رسول الله6، فيشاورونها ويرتجعون في أمرهم.
    فلما بلغ عمر بن الخطاب خرج حتى دخل على فاطمة فقال: 
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    يا بنت رسول الله 6 والله ما أحد أحبَّ إلينا من أبيك وما من أحد أحبّ إلينا بعد أبيك منك، وأيم الله ما ذاك بمانعي إن اجتمع هؤلاء النفر عندك أن أمرتهم أن يحرق عليهم البيت!
    قال: فلما خرج عمر جاؤوها، فقالت: تعلمون أنّ عمر قد جاءني وقد حلف بالله لئن عدتم ليُحرقنّ عليكم البيت، وأيم الله ليمضين لما حلف عليه!».(1)
    2 ـ البلاذري في كتابه «انساب الاشراف»
    نقل احمد بن يحيى جابر البغدادي البلاذري (المتوفي 270) ـ الكاتب الشهير وصاحب التاريخ الكبير ـ هذه الواقعة التاريخية في كتابه «انساب الاشراف»:
    «إن أبا بكر أرسل إلى علي يريد البيعة فلم يبايع، فجاء عمر ومعه فتيلة! فتلقته فاطمة على الباب.
    فقالت فاطمة: يابن الخطاب، أتراك محرقاً عليّ بابي؟
    الغارة على بيت الوحى
    قال نعم، وذلك أقوى فيما جاء به أبوك…!»(2).
    1 . المصنّف ابن أبي شبية، ج 8، ص 572.
    2 . انساب الاشراف، ج1، ص586 مطبعة دار المعارف، القاهرة.
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    3 ـ ابن قتيبة في كتابه «الإمامة والسياسة»
    الغارة على بيت الوحى 
    كتب المؤرّخ الشهير عبد الله بن مسلم بن قتيبة الدينوري (212 ـ 276) ـ من اساطين الادب في حوزة التاريخ الاسلامي، ومؤلف كتاب «تأويل مختلف الحديث» و«ادب الكاتب» و… ـ في كتاب «الامامة والسياسة»:
    «إن أبا بكر رضي الله عنه تفقد قوماً تخلّفوا عن بيعته عند علي كرم الله وجهه فبعث إليهم عمر فجاء فناداهم وهم في دار علي، فأبوا أن يخرجوا فدعا بالحطب وقال: والذي نفس عمر بيده لتخرجنّ أو لاحرقنّها على من فيها، فقيل له: يا أبا حفص إنّ فها فاطمة فقال: وإن!!».(1)
    ثم كتب ابن قتيبة بعد هذه القضيّة المؤلمة يقول:
    «ثمّ قام عمر فمشى معه جماعة حتّى أتوا فاطمة فدقّوا الباب فلّما سمعت أصواتهم نادت بأعلى صوتها يا أبتاه يا رسول الله ماذا لقينا بعدك من ابن الخطاب، وابن أبي قحافة فلما سمع القوم صوتها وبكائها انصرفوا.
    وبقي عمر ومعه قوم فأخرجوا عليّاً فمضوا به إلى أبي بكر فقالوا له بايع: فقال: إن أنا لم أفعل فمه؟
    ملحق #3 18‏/05‏/2012 12:33:04 صأخرج البخاري ومسلم عن عائشة : (( إن فاطمة بنت النبي أرسلت إلى أبي بكر ... فوجدت فاطمة على أبي بكر فهجرته ، فلم تكلّمه حتى توفيت ، وعاشت بعد النبي ستة أشهر ، فلما توفيت دفنها زوجها علي ليلاً ، ولم يؤذن بها أبا بكر ...))[ صحيح البخاري : باب غزوة خيبر ، صحيح مسلم : كتاب الجهاد والسير] .
    2ـ عن أبي بكر : (( أنه قال قبيل وفاته : إني لا آسى على شيء من الدنيا إلا على ثلاث فعلتهن ووددت أني تركتهن ... وددت أني لم أكشف بيت فاطمة عن شيء وإن كانوا قد غلقوه على الحرب ...))
    [ تاريخ الطبري 3/430 ، العقد الفريد 2/254 ، كتاب الأموال لابن سلام ، مروج الذهب ، الإمامة والسياسة ] .
    3ـ عن الطبري بسنده : (( أتى عمر بن الخطاب منزل علي وفيه طلحة والزبير ورجال من المهاجرين ، فقال : والله لأحرّقن عليكم أو لتخرجن إلى البيعة ... ))
    [ تاريخ الطبري 3/202 ، وقريب منه ابن ابي شيبه من مشايخ البخاري في المصنف 7/432] .
    4ـ عن البلاذري بسنده : (( إن أبا بكر أرسل إلى علي يريد البيعة ، فلم يبايع ، فجاء عمر ومعه فتيلة ، فتلقته فاطمة على الباب ، فقالت فاطمة : يا بن الخطاب أتراك محرّقاً عليّ بابي ؟! قال : نعم ...))
    [ أنساب الأشراف 1/ 586 ، وقريب منه ابن عبد ربه في العقد الفريد 5/13 وأبو الفداء في المختصر في أخبار البشر 1/156] .
    5ـ عن عروة بن الزبير : (( أنه كان يعذر أخاه عبد الله في حصر بني هاشم في الشعب وجمعه الحطب ليحرقهم ، قال عروة في مقام العذر والاعتذار لأخيه عبد الله بن الزبير : بأن عمر أحضر الحطب ليحرق الدار على من تخلّف عن البيعة لأبي بكر)) .
    [ مروج الذهب 3/86 ، شرح ابن أبي الحديد 20/147 ] .
    6ـ عن جعفر بن محمد الصادق (عليه السلام) : (( والله ما بايع علي حتى رأى الدخان قد دخل بيته )) .
    [ رواه إبراهيم بن محمد الثقفي في كتاب أخبار السقيفة ، وعنه في الشافي في الإمامة . ومما يدل على صحة روايات الثقفي هذا ما قاله ابن حجر في لسان الميزان 1/102 : أنه لما صنف كتاب المناقب والمثالب أشار عليه أهل الكوفة أن يخفيه ولا يظهره ، فقال : أي البلاد أبعد عن التشيع ؟ فقالوا له : إصفهان ، فحلف أن يخفيه ولا يحدث به إلا في إصفهان ، ثقة منه بصحة ما أخرجه فيه ، فتحول إلى إصفهان وحدث فيها ] .
    7ـ قال ابن أبي دارم المتوفى سنة 352 : (( إن عمر رفس فاطمة حتى أسقطت بمحسن )) ]ميزان الاعتدال 1/139 ] .
    8 ـ قال إبراهيم ابن سيار النظام المتوفى سنة 231 : (( إن عمر ضرب بطن فاطمة يوم البيعة حتى ألقت الجنين من بطنها ، وكان يصيح عمر : احرقوا دارها بمن فيها ، وما كان بالدار غير علي و فاطمة والحسن والحسين))
    [ الملل والنحل 1/59 ، الوافي بالوفيات 6/17] .
    9ـ عن ابن قتيبة : (( إن محسناً فسد من زخم قنفذ العدوي )) 
    [ المعارف لابن قتيبه كما عنه ابن شهر آشوب في مناقب آل أبي طالب 3/358 . علماً بان المعارف المطبوع قد حذف منه هذا المطلب ] .
    10ـ عن شيخ ابن ابي الحديد : (( لما القت زينب ما في بطنها أهدر رسول الله دم هبار ، لأنه روّع زينب فألقت ما في بطنها ، فكان لابد أنه لو حضر ترويع القوم فاطمة الزهراء وإسقاط ما في بطنها لحكم باهدار دم من فعل ذلك ... فقال له ابن أبي الحديد : أروي عنك ما يرويه بعض الناس من أن فاطمة روعت فألقت محسناً ؟
    فقال : لا تروه عني ولا ترو عني بطلانه )) [ شرح ابن أبي الحديد 14/192] .
    11ـ عن علي (عليه السلام) : (( بينا رسول الله آخذ بيدي و نحن نمشي في بعض سكك المدينة ... فلمّا خلا لي الطريق اعتنقني ثم أجهش باكياً ، قلت : يا رسول الله ما يبكيك؟ قال : ضغائن في صدور أقوام لا يبدونها لك الا من بعدي ، قال : قلت : يا رسول الله في سلامة من ديني ؟ قال : في سلامة من دينك ))
    [ مجمع الزوائد 9/ 118 عن أبي يعلى والبزار بسند صححه الحاكم والذهبي وابن حبان ، وراجع نفس السند في المستدرك 3.
    12ـ عن علي (عليه السلام) : ((إنه مما عهد إليّ النبي : أن الأمة ستغدر بي بعده)).
    [ المستدرك على الصحيحين 3 / 140 و 142 ، قال الحاكم : صحيح الإسناد ، وقال الذهبي في تلخيصه : صحيح . و من رواة هذا الحديث أيضاً : ابن أبي شيبه والبزار والدارقطني والخطيب والبيهقي وغيرهم ] .
    13ـ أخرج البخاري عن النبي أنه قال : (( فاطمة بضعة مني من أغضبها أغضبني)) [ صحيح البخاري : كتاب بدء الخلق] .
    ملحق #4 10‏/10‏/2012 5:21:22 ص ‏ملحق #5 10‏/10‏/2012 5:22:11 ص ‏
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